detrans:> never felt dysphoria> dont care that much about gender shit> could be ok being male> dont desperately want to be female> constantly scared i might hate my boobs already/get "reverse" dysphoria about them, or might when they get biggerdeath:> everything sucks, nothing is fun anymore and i constantly feel like shit> i dont wanna keep debating gender shit with myself and it feels hopeless to reach any conclusion within my lifetime> i feel like a subhuman non person, like im missing a soul. Would explain why im so unsure about being trans vs cis and in general unsure of what i even want or am> the world is getting worse in general: climate change, far right politics on the rise, increasingly shitty internet due to "child safety" legislation and big tech bs> i have to get a job now which will likely make my life worsekeep going:> maybe things might be fun again at some point> better to be alive and suffering than having nothing (maybe)> ppl around me would be sad if i died maybe> sometimes i like what i look like better now on hrt, including having small breasts> i get a lil happy when ppl think im female/not male> i dont see why i would ever prefer being male over female> still get jealous of women sometimes and wish i could be/look more like them
>>44422244> 44422244You're lucky lol.I was in a situation similar to yours. Repped for like year and a half. Turned out being male sucks for me, who would think. Even though my dysphoria could be called less TRUE, like, I don't see anything bad in using my gock or some other traits.World is not that improtant. You can't do shit to change it, so why care?So yeah, fuck it. Keep going. AND STOP SPAMMING THREADS.
>>44422309I dont even have dysphoria to begin with tho.> World is not that improtant. You can't do shit to change it, so why care?Agreed, but thats the reason that is in the list for why i should kms. Cuz it sucks and i cant even change it.> Repped for like year and a half. Turned out being male sucks for me, who would think.Maybe i should try that too tho. I never really attempted being male, even pre hrt or pre considering im trans. Maybe i could do it and be fine.Like i dont know for certain being male would suck for me. Its just that im constantly weirdly drawn towards not being male/being (more) female. Perhaps just cuz im retarded and psyopped myself into tranny shit.> AND STOP SPAMMING THREADS.Im sorry :c. I just felt like shit and this is a great place to scream into the void about how im dumb and stupid and not real and wanna die.It let off a little now so ill hopefully stop but we will see.> 44422244> Youre lucky lolYeah ig thats neat. At least i got sth from this, even if its just a funny random number.
>>44422531> I dont even have dysphoria to begin with tho.Even if you don't, why stopping if you like it? And your part that dislikes it is some bs depression and fears. Fuck them.> Maybe i could do it and be fine.Probably not, it will return and you will regret it much more. At least hrtrep if you want it so much.> and psyopped myself into tranny shitOr someone (or yourself) psyopped you into thinking that you're not a troon/something other feminine. You never know.> we will seeBetter you gather your thoughts.
>>44422244I will never understand why people troon without being dysphoric.
>>44422244> i dont wanna keep debating gender shit with myself and it feels hopeless to reach any conclusion within my lifetimethen stop doing that. you choose to torment yourself like that. stop making that choice.>the world is getting worse in generalno, it's not. stop taking the doom pill.>climate changethe climate has always changed for the last 4 billion years. it will continue to change for another 5 billion years until this rock gets burned by the Sun. nothing you can do about it and literally not your problem.>far right politics on the risethat's a very good thing.>increasingly shitty internet due to "child safety" legislation and big tech bsnot even a new issue. You must be very young.15 years ago SOPA and PIPA were the big concerns. And ACTA in europe. Meh.it's not worth dying or even losing sleep over online bullshit.> i dont see why i would ever prefer being male over femaleyeah, keep goingt. srsoid faketranny
>>44422734Desire to stay feminine or/and supressed dysphoria. Many such cases.Also some motivate it being unsuccessful as a man. Could be the same cope to say IM NOT A TROON IM NOT A TROON. Healthy cis man will never troon out.
>>44422734nta/not opbecause i could afford it and the fetish was hot.
>>44422749> that's a very good thing.Based gal.
>>44422699>And your part that dislikes it is some bs depression and fears.Yeah but maybe the fears are genuine signs at (reverse) dysphoria developing and i should take them seriously.>>44422749>then stop doing that. you choose to torment yourself like that. stop making that choice.Cant, at the end of the day i still need to make an informed choice as to whether i keep trooning out or not. And the only way to do that is to figure my shit out, which it feels like i never will.> nothing you can do about it and literally not your problem.I agree that i cant do anything about it. But it is my problem bc i hate the heat and itll likely get worse every year for the rest of my life. Nvm various other climate change induced problems ala food shortages or we due to failing crops we can barely even foresee yet.> not even a new issue.ik but that doesnt mean it wont suck when everything gets even more sanatized and technology gets further locked down by dumb laws ala mandatory hardware age verification or chat control.>>44422749>>far right politics on the rise>that's a very good thing>>44422789>>>44422749>> that's a very good thing.>Based gal.I will now proceed to take both of u like 90% less seriously than i already did. But thats besides the point ig.
>>44423625>CantOh yes you can. You just don't want to. For reasons that are not even rational.>But it is my problem bc i hate the heat and itll likely get worse every year for the rest of my lifeThat's not how this works. I'm in the middle of Europe and I had to turn the heat on all the way till mid July.>Nvm various other climate change induced problems ala food shortages or we due to failing crops we can barely even foresee yetNever underestimate human ingenuity. And stop taking the doomers seriously.60 years ago we were predicted a mass famine by the year 2000. Not only it didn't happen, but food got even more plentiful and cheaper than ever before.>>far right politics on the rise>that's a very good thing>I will now proceed to take both of u like 90% less seriously than i already didMost of what you think as 'far right' is normal mainstream politics of the year 2000.Secure borders is very normal. Expelling illegals is very normal and absolutely necessary. It was called responsible governance until 5 minutes ago. Every single political party from the far-left to the far-right agreed on secure borders until 2014 or 2016.A fiscal burden of ~60% (the norm in europe) is slavery. Reducing the fiscal burden is a normal thing.You'll benefit from 'far right' politics even if you don't realize it now. Islamic/third world immigration is a far bigger threat to you personally than your fellow white/european citizens.Not being oikophobic is a very good thing, actually.
>>44423625> I will now proceed to take both of u like 90% less seriously than i already did. But thats besides the point ig.Hm.>>44423694So nice of you to answer faster than I noticed the reply, now I can think less which is nice in this heatwave. Thanks.
>>44422244>> sometimes i like what i look like better now on hrt, including having small breasts>> i get a lil happy when ppl think im female/not male>> i dont see why i would ever prefer being male over female>> still get jealous of women sometimes and wish i could be/look more like themyou are trans, everything else you mentioned to the 'contrary' is just insecurity
>>44423694>Oh yes you can. You just don't want to. For reasons that are not even rational.Cmon at least engage with it. My argument of "i have to either troon or not troon" -> "i need to decide on which one" -> "to decide i need to think about it" isnt that irrational. And if u wanna tell me to just stop thinking about it anyways imma at least need a recommendation on the core issue (to troon or not to troon) cuz there is no such thing here as not taking a decision on it.> Never underestimate human ingenuity. And stop taking the doomers seriously.Im not, i understand that just dooming about the situation wont help either, but u gotta admit its looking kinda bleak. And "dont worry someone will maybe figure it out in time" isnt super reassuring.>>44423778How is "just insecurity" that im genuinely scared i might dislike having breasts? Isnt that a genuine concern and an obvious sign i maybe shouldnt take the pills that make you grow breasts?And the stuff you quoted does happen, but not super often or super badly. Hell im not even sure how much im maybe faking it desu.
>>44425951>but u gotta admit its looking kinda bleakNo, it's not. I won't admit something that I know for sure that it's factually wrong.>And if u wanna tell me to just stop thinking about it anyways imma at least need a recommendation on the core issue (to troon or not to troon)But I already did that here >>44422749> i dont see why i would ever prefer being male over female>yeah, keep goingYou already said it yourself that you prefer how things are going. Therefore, keep going.>im genuinely scared i might dislike having breastsThe most common elective surgery among males in 2024 and 2025 was gyno reduction. If all goes "wrong" you can still pull that handbrake.But you won't. Your realistic worst case scenario is that you'll be a femfag and you'll like it. That's the worst case.You'll be fine. Chill. Enjoy the nice weather and plan something nice offline with a friend.
>>44426346>The most common elective surgery among males in 2024 and 2025 was gyno reduction. If all goes "wrong" you can still pull that handbrake.but I'm also scared of that surgery and its consequences. mastectomy isn't a clean 100% reversal (or even close to it).> But you won't. Your realistic worst case scenario is that you'll be a femfag and you'll like it. That's the worst case.idk maybe but also mayb not and id be more affected by it.
>>44422244Once a trans always a transRegular people don't have thoughts about gender identity