https://www.advocate.com/news/britain-transgender-bathroom-banTHANK GOD
Doesn't look like they're banned from toilets to me
stop tolerating faith
>>44425127I pass, am stealth, have all my documents updated, am post op, and dont even disclose to doctors that i'm not cis. You would need to hire a detective to figure out i'm trans. Or get a blood draw and do a karyotype test.
>>44425127Kill brits. Behead brits. Roundhouse kick a brit into the concrete. Slam dunk a brit baby into the trashcan. Crucify the filthy parliament. Defecate in a brits food. Launch brits into the sun. Stir fry brits in a wok. Toss brits into active volcanoes. Urinate into a brits gas tank. Judo throw brits into a wood chipper. Twist brits heads off. Report brits to the IRS. Karate chop brits in half. Curb stomp pregnant brits. Trap brits in quicksand. Crush brits in the trash compactor. Liquefy brits in a vat of acid. Eat brits. Dissect brits. Exterminate brits in the gas chamber. Stomp brit skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate brits in the oven. Lobotomize brits. Mandatory abortions for brits. Grind brit fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown brits in beans & toast. Vaporize brits with a ray gun. Kick old brits down the stairs. Feed brits to alligators. Slice brits with a katana.
>>44425127what's so great about Britain anyway
>>44425236Literally nothing ever
Jk Rowling did this
You're not banned from public toilets.This is why we don't tolerate you. You can't be truthful in your statements.You have to use the bathroom of your sex. This has always been law, the difference now is they're enforcing that law
>>44425358Actually the law lets trans people be arbitrarily excluded from bathrooms of their assigned natal sex too
>>44425366The Equality Act does not permit arbitrary exclusion
>>44425358found the britfag
>>44425127As an Amerifat I genuinely have a more favorable opinion of China than the UK. The UK is a pedo occupied surveillance state. It's on the same tier list as Israel and Russia to me.
>>44425460Same, but I have a more favorable opinion of China than most countries desu, especially the US.
>>44425127It doesn't bother me cuz I changed my brth sex
>>44425480Are there trannies in China?PossiblyThey're being organ farmed more likely
>>44425127don't get why this is a big deal. i'm a manmoder so i use the men's. hons should either use the men's or disabled if possible. passoids use the women's. what's hard about that?
>>44425358If you change your sex then you're done with it
>>44425506You can't change your sex
>>44425394The nebulous clause allowing double exclusion in cases of concern over causing distress (ex: fully passing trans man in the women's restroom would probably scare people), a trans person may be excluded from both men's and women's spaces.
>>44425170>You would need to hire a detective to figure out i'm trans.The UK government know, unfortunately
>>44425358>You have to use the bathroom of your sexI hace changed my sex, so I'll be using the mens!
>>44425515How can a trans woman with srs potentially rape cissies in the bathroom?
>>44425460>america>the most war mongering country in existence, even more so than Mongolia>looks down on othersI hate the UK too but glass houses
>>44425515>You can't change your sex>but if a FTM has changed his sex too much then they are also banned from the womensIts just all so clear
>>44425551>How can a trans woman with srs potentially rape cissies in the bathroom?Terfs arguing that being around a trans person makes the trans person a sex offender. No, really, the government are debating this
>>44425555Yeah isn't it amazing the UK still manages to be worse?
>>44425519They can't deny you public toilets without offering an alternative.
>>44425596except that they absolutely will
>>44425596There's always away if there's enough political will. Hence the active dehumanization campaign
>>44425610Then they are breaking the law just as badly as you using the toilet you think you should use.But you are more correct than them of course
>>44425555It's not our fault that we are occupied by Israel and politicians that don't car about what we think. Take any of these wars and no one actually supports them here. Iran war right now has 35% support. >https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-war-drags-americans-are-bracing-more-chaos-middle-east-reutersipsos-poll-2026-08-06/more americans support Palestine over Israel>https://news.gallup.com/poll/702440/israelis-no-longer-ahead-americans-middle-east-sympathies.aspx>>44425498I don't think they like us there but I'm not sure
>>44425623Actually isn't the law entirely on service providers and trannies can shit where they please?
>>44425358i used the men's out of consideration, but given this new law, i may have to rethink my decision.
>>44425621You think you're the only victim in this situation when it's the real women who are ALSO a victim
>>44425636The law isn't new, it's always been law. Trannies have just been too loud about it and now they're enforcing it
>>44425640Victim of what? Also thanks for saying I'm not a woman <3
>>44425657victim of fat autistic hairy men in dresses coming into a place where the real women feel vulnerable
>>44425683nobody tell him
>>44425683Can you point out any case where a cissie was raped by a trans woman in the bathroom?
>>44425878No one is scared or intimidated by FTM
>>44425127this is all because of hons getting too comfortable using womens spaces when they should have been saving for ffs and manmoding until they passed
>>44425683i'd say you should call them "plus sized" but the euphemism treadmill on that doesnt run so fast on men lmao. wonder why...
>>44425907>anything short of rape is ok
>>44425974Any of those cases too that aren't just existing?
>>44425907Ian Bullock
>>44425974fine, point out a specific case of a trans woman committing any degree of harassment of a cis woman in a public bathroom beyond daring to exist in proximity to hercaveat: perpetrator must actually be trans, not a cis man who never glanced at estradiol in his life and thought an Alice dress counted
>>44425989Riley Gaines and Paula Scanlan
>>44425127Realistically how are you even meant to enforce this?
>>44426059By posting about it on social media and letting the internet determine the fate of the tranny
>>44426059some US states are encouraging civilians to actively police the bathrooms
>>44426070Sure but this is britain we're talking about here a third of the female population look like men
>>44425236It's like how the DRC is neither democratic, a republic nor located in the Congo. It's wild they pretend to be a democracy while they literally have something called the "house of lords."
>>44426076>some US states are encouraging civilians to actively police the bathroomsthat's actually illegal.
>>44426230It's called the United Kingdom, not the United Democracy.
>>44425596>They can't deny you public toilets without offering an alternative.They throw trans women to be raped in male prisons who have committed no crime, bro, they don't give a single fuck
>>44425592America and UK two cheeks of the same arse.America is loud in its discrimination and war mongering, whereas Britian is sneaky and underhanded
>>44426059>Realistically how are you even meant to enforce this?The government has said it wants the public to transvestigate
>>44426079>a third of the female population look like menGenerous
>>44426059If a woman sees a man creeping in the women's bathroom, she reports him. Since men are not supposed to be there, the pervert is apprehended and punished. Eventually, perverts connect creeping in the women's bathroom to being punished and start staying away out of fear. The way it worked before "I'm trans btw" became an effective defense that made people hesitant to get involved.But you knew that.
>>44426918>rapists will not break the lawThe mind of a terf when trying to justify trans hate
>>44426930Before, you could report them without issue.After troons started imposing themselves on society, now there's "Errrm, are you sure that isn't a woman? Are you a bigot? We need to investigate your transphobia." deterring women from defending themselves from you rapists.
>>44426958Do you believe this or do you acknowledge its a load of shite?
>>44426975It's the truth, rapist. Silence does not mean consent.
>>44426758They throw cis men to be raped in male prisons who have committed no crime.You're not the only victims
>>44425127This isn't about bathroom rapists or what have you, this is about trying to eliminate trans women from public life. Can't go anywhere if you can't use a restroom anywhere. This is nothing more than an attempt at social control. Same with the sports argument. The real goal is and has always been to simply erase the ability of a trans woman to just go anywhere, do anything, to live a normal life.
>44427082Trans women are 1100% times more likely to experience SA>44427012Ok you're a fucking lunatic
>>44427090You can go to the male toilet/sport category etc.You are not being eliminated.This kind of rhetoric is why you're not taken seriously
>>44427116link to data with this statistic
>>44425127Can't believe this hasn't been said yet>stop roit there, yew got a loicense to be taken a shet?
>>44427120Sure, send a woman into the men's room. Come on, don't talk like you don't know what you're suggesting. It's disingenuous. Try to be real for once.
we should make transgender bathrooms and sports. the final solution.
>>44427120women arent safe or accomodated for in male spaces and if women dont have their rights as women they dont have rights at all. society doesnt afford the rights of something you're not.
>>44427180truejust make all bathrooms and all sports transgendercissies stay out!!!
>>44427165>>44427193You are men. You are all clearly men.
>>44425127Laws like this are such a waste of time. Why the fuck do we need to police the areas where people piss and shit so hard? Does it really matter THAT much that there's dudes with vaginas and girls with dicks doing their business with cis people in the same room?
>>44427090no offense intended but: eliminate trans women from public life. all trannies need to move to Portland.
why are English people like this? is the government ran by homosexuals?
>>44425236it inspired bloodborne
>>44427220Stop creeping on women, rapist.
>>44427165> It's disingenuous. Try to be real for once.>Sure, send a "woman" into the men's roomYeah, I'm the one being disingenuous...
>>44427253Thanks for not answering either question, here's your free (you).
>>44427193Your right, that's why women have their spaces through rights they fought for.You, however, are not a woman
>>44427220addressing real issues is hard it's easier to to ignore them and blame everything on a minority, politicians don't care if things improve because they'll just move somewhere else and ruin that country as well
>>44427274I'm cutting through your bullshit because I know you don't believe what you wrote.No means no.
>>44427310Guess the simplest answer is usually the true one, unfortunately. Just glad I don't live where this dumbass law is in place.
>>44425203Oh TERF island, blessed is he who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rocks
>>44427165>Try to be real for once.Terfs are evil
>>44427339>Just glad I don't live where this dumbass law is in place.Hard to explain what its like here. Have you ever been to Dogtown?
>>44427535I haven't.
Oi, Lilith, sniff my fart!*BrrraaaapppWaaahaaaayyyy!
>>44427542Look up cyberpunk, dogtown, youtube will have videos. Its that level of hopelessness. Ever wondered what giving up looks like in an entire country
>>44427216>>44427265You just want to force people to detransition in order to have access to any aspect of public life. Exactly what I was saying, social control.
>>44427755You don't need to detroon to use the men's room with the other men.
Why did transpobes steal the term "gender critical"?
>>44427946Steal from who?
>>44427959>Steal from who?Gender abolitionists
>>44427984The women you porn addicted spastics squeal about are against gender stereotypes. That's what makes them gender critical. You on the other hand think they should be ironclad to the point where gender stereotypes trump sex.
>>44425127surely this will finally fix the horrifically capsizing empire in decline. good god what a shithole.>>44425358tiocfaidh ár lá, you brits are barely animals.
>>44428062You will never be a woman.
>>44427946They learnt from the far right. Biological sex is just rebranded biological race. Gender critical is the same as race realistIts eugenics. Thats why the same British media is now pivoting to attacking black people specifically.
>>44428084>Biological sex is just rebranded biological race.I wonder how humans reproduced all this time when we knew nothing about sex.
>>44428084Trvthnvke
>>44428073It's a social construct. I'm literally a woman.
>>44428073your entire worldview was crafted by billionaire pedophiles so they could rape children while you sperg out over trannies.
>>44427275Why do they need to be separate in the first place?
>>44425358thank goodness for the potty police
>>44428106Thermotruclear bomb
>>44425236They have (or at least had) good academia and renaissance paintings/art culture (i don't know if they had much contribution to music, however, besides supporting the growth of mainland european composers). both of these things america lacks and lacked completely, by comparison. otherwise, not much. 20th century britain at least is far superior to modern britain, flayed out from the inside by the flesh eating influenza identified as the tories
>>44427984>>44427946Using the term "gender" as a synonym for sexist stereotypes rather than a polite term for a person's sex originated with John Money, a transphobic pedophile sexologist who tried and failed to groom a child into being trans in order to prove his theory that being trans was a social issue rather than something innate, only to prove the exact opposite when his victims ended up killing themselves. If you really wanted to "abolish gender" the first thing you should do is stop using the definition invented by that psycho and talk about getting rid of sexist stereotypes rather than "gender".Honestly, feminists love to whine that there's some supposed "Big Trans(tm)" entity influencing society from the shadows but the fact that even nominally pro-trans people have adopted their transphobic terminology is indicative of feminism's cultural hegemony in the west.>>44428009Feminists are only against sexist stereotypes for women, and only when its beneficial for them to do so. They actively play up sexism when it benefits them and are fully supportive of maintaining sexism against men, to the point that they literally try to redefine the term to exclude their own behavior >umm misandry don't real, you can't be sexist against men /smug
>>44425596well, in our opinion what exactly would that alternative be?
>>44425170>am stealthWhich is an LGBT euphemism for sexual predator.
>>44425127Reminder not to entertain discussions of social issues with crossdressers. It's all a piss take to them, you might say.
Does this apply to private as well as public toilets?
>>44428840Scratch a shemale and an MRA bleeds.
>>44429343Yeah, its guidance for all businesses
>>44429548>Yeah, its guidance for all businessesthat's crazy. Even in US, our bathroom bans, outside of Idaho, apply only to public sector facilities and restrooms.If a private business wants to implement a policy allow trans women in women's' bathrooms, they should be allowed to.
>>44429609And that was blocked in court too!
>>44428084>Biological sex is just rebranded biological race.they have nothing in common
>>44429609>If a private business wants to implement a policy allow trans women in women's' bathrooms, they should be allowed to.Yeah, that makes sense in America, since you still kinda believe in freedom. The Kingdom ruled over by the aristocracy we called Britain do not like freedom, any ideas of this silly freedom will see you sued in court!Remember the average brit is a snaggle toothed violent thug that lives in total poverty and likes that their masters own country estates, its just right and proper
>>44429746>they have nothing in common>MY BIGOTRY IS COMMON SENSE REEEEEEEfuck off
>>44428908Nearly all public buildings have a disabled toilet that is gender neutral
>>44430802Terfs can go in there then
>>44425127Can't believe I used to think bongland was a first world country.
>>44425358Go shit in your "large gametes" loo, you foetid limey cunt
>>44430883nearly half of bong kids don't even get three meals a day anymore they're mega poor and they decide this is the best use of their time and efforts.
>>44431160The UK is socially far right, and the far right position is "why should my tax money pay for your starving kids"
>>44425683But Trans women should remain in high risk of sexual assault and rape for the protection of cis women.
>>44432797>But Trans women should remain in high risk of sexual assault and rapeThere is already laws in place to prevent sexual assault and rape.
>>44432802Right, I forgot the men's bathroom was highly serveiled to watch for sexual assault.
>>44432802British courts do not prosecute when trans people are assualted
>>44432826Not to mention there is NOTHING stopping the act. Any laws in place are there to deal with after the fact, but the act would have already been committed before any laws can protect an individual.
>>44425127>You have to use the restroom designated for men with penisesI don't see what the issue is
>>44432837Its almost as if they want to encourage violence
>>44425236It's larger than the smaller BritainThat's unironically it
>>44427535>>44427735Dogtown is what we used to call the part of town where bad dog owners would abandon them
>>44432844I don't have a penis.
>>44432802Then why wasn’t that enough for the cis women’s restrooms?
>>44433009We need to come up with rescue plans for British trannies before actual genocide starts. I wish I had the power to do something about this. But. I'm not backed by billions of pounds of book-money.
>>44433090If i won hundreds of millions, id buy land in Spain, start a business and provide visa's for british tranners.But alas, i am very poor, and cannot do this. I did see one post on reddit which was unusually cogent.It said that the guidance was more sinister than it first appears, it comes across as bumbling, but its supposed to be, so the government can later add teeth to it. Its a very slow boil. To go from using toilets to direct imprisonment is too much. However to ask "please use these toilets", then when we ignore it, the government can say "look, we asked nicely, now its time for prison" and this will seem reasonable to the public
>>44433066Should be an offence punishable by whipping
>>44433028The small Britain is Brittany, France.
>>44433075Real
>>44427220>and shit so hardi misread that,,,
>>44427216in a fight between an mtf (or timothy or whatever you call us) and an ftm, who would win?
hellois your legal name oscar shaw?please come with usdon't make this any harder than it needs to be
>>44432797Men have risk of being raped and assaulted in the men's toilet. I don't see your point.Should femboys who don't identify as women be allowed to use the women's bathroom so they don't get raped by big strong bears?
So when does the uk's economy going to collapse?People give trans shit attention in america to distract from the collapse of the country. So what giant problem are your politicians ignoring?
>>44435250Actually trans shit barely gets covered as the BBC is infested with wokies and have to run tranny stories via the tranny department before they're allowed to report on it. That's why you see only very high profile tranny news like this on the BBC and everything else is silent.British news mainly cares about immigration as the country is literally being invaded everyday via the channel.But you guys can carry on pretending regular people only care about you and nothing else
>>44435236
>>44435236Where are the protections for trans women who are at a higher likelihood than even cis women to being sexually assaulted?
>>44435649https://hatecrime.osce.org/hate-crime-legislation-united-kingdomhttps://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contentsYou are not special.You are not being genocided.You are not being discriminated against.Everyone is being treated equal again.
>>44435649do you just make up statistics to fit your victim mentality?Show me the data
>>44427082These are always ridiculous because there's a clear ignoring of the differing rates of victimhood or likelihood of someone in a group being victimised.And if we don't care about the victimisation rate (ie: risk of being raped) in these scenarios, then why should cis women have special protections (such as female-only prisons) either? And I can hear you angrily clacking away, but by your rationale, prison rape is acceptable in at least some cases since you don't care to provide any protection to those in a group at increased risk.The purpose of the systems we design should not be to enforce a bioessentialist worldview (regardless of if we believe it to be legitimate or not) it should be to keep people safe, what TERFs want however is the enforcement of bioessentialism even at a cost to other peoples safety (and infact to an extent the risk to trans womens safety is the point), which is no different to delusional rapehons who think they should be allowed access to a female prison simply because they claimed to be trans (but never once took HRT and would never consider actual medical transition).>>44427165My mum goes into men's restrooms all the time, which is pretty funny because it means she's violating the EHRC guidance more than I am, given I exclusively use the men's as a tranny.The only argument I really see legitimacy with regards to bathrooms is that it forces passing trans women to risk outing themselves in public; I don't think there actually is a sexual assault risk that's especially elevated given how high-traffic bathrooms are. I'd rather single occupancy gender neutral spaces over shared open bathrooms anyway; urinals are gross, and women's toilets always have queues.>>44428009>assuming trans women enforce gender stereotypeslol. But then as soon as a trans woman does something you don't like, you start making appeals to the "male brain" and ideas of biologically derived behaviour as if the brain is a sexed organ.
>>44435236>Should femboys who don't identify as women be allowed to use the women's bathroom so they don't get raped by big strong bears?I'm not a femboy, but I am a huge bottom. I feel like any burly muscle guy who wanted to could easily overpower me.
>>44435838>then why should cis women have special protections (such as female-only prisons) protections? female only prisons are hive of sa and rape. The female prisoners in there are assaulting other inmates all the time there.
>>44435236Yes
>>44435838It's very funny that I am terfs idea of the "model tranny"; I never go in women's spaces; hell, I'm terrified of getting my brows done for fear of making the women at the salon uncomfortable. I've paid for my own transition entirely out of my own pocket (which has cost me over £25k so far at 25 y/o so pretty much every spare £ I make), I don't ask anyone to use specific pronouns, even when actively talking to people about getting HRT prescribed, I haven't changed any of my documents (in fact my passport photo is pre-HRT), I don't tell most people I am trans at all.I even do the "male labour" you all wish to force anyone born in this cursed sex to do by being a blue-collar factory engineer and trying to join the Army.And it's never been enough for any of you, and I know it never will be. I know that push comes to shove, what you ultimately want is me to feel the way I do so that if/when I am attacked (having been threatened for being trans plenty), I don't do anything for fear of being called the aggressor. You want trannies (regardless of passing) to be the rape and violence heatsink for cishet men because you believe that as long as we're dogpiled on the bottom, you will be more protected. And you know, as long as you spread our dehumanisation by calling us fetishists, perverts, etc (as all TERFs do) you give cishet men the power to abuse us, knowing we won't be taken seriously, and you can maintain that situation (after all, those sick fetishist perverts probably wanted to be raped so their consent was implicit, right?).Anyway, in my case, you're getting what you want. I just won't mince words about what exactly it is I'm complying with.
>>44435904The entire argument for trans women's exclusion is that female-only prisons act to protect females housed within them.I don't deny SA and rape are committed by cis women against other cis women, but I am responding to the arguments used against trans women, not claiming their argument is actually pragmatic for keeping cis women safe either.The actual answers to prison rape require far more than just "kick all da trannies out" or any other simplistic answer.
>>44435962Don't comply, it's not a criminal act
>>44435979Not the point. I know it's not really criminally enforceable.Half of it is self-hatred (I don't like being trans and am fundamentally pretty ashamed of being trans; I just can't do anything about the dysphoria); the other half is to prove the point that no matter how much I do what they want, it'll never be good enough as long as I refuse to detransition. Because I want them to just drop the charade and show everyone that it was never about anything other than wanting to stop people transitioning outright.
>>44435977>The actual answers to prison rape require far more than just "kick all da trannies out" or any other simplistic answer.The bioessentialists also seem to ignore the differences between a trans women with male genital and one without. In the recent court ruling in the case over Scotland housing trans women in women's prisons, they ruled an outright ban on any case-by-case basis of housing trans women. It has been long standing practice in all prison systems for case-by-case assessments of housing trans women. But now, they just said no trans women period in Scottish prisons, despite England and Wales having a few trans women in women's prisons still.I might be coming off as a bit of a transcendentalist here, but polling shows support for accommodating trans women if they had undergone bottom surgery more. Those who undergo the effort and struggle to achieve that need to be recognized more than say someone who just self-IDs.
>>44436035Just because you chopped your dick off doesn't mean you don't have the ability to overpower a woman and sexual assault her with a part of your body that isn't a penis
>>44436035sorry *transmedicalists
>>44436058>Just because you chopped your dick off doesn't mean you don't have the ability to overpower a woman and sexual assault her with a part of your body that isn't a penisOk a cis women can do the same. The difference is cis women and post-OP trans women don't have penises. Also women in prison are pretty buff in some cases. Sometimes looking like men. Butch lesbians.
>>44436058do you thinks prisons should categorically ban trans women or asses based on case-by-case basis?
>>44436082So then you'll be ok using the men's bathroom because it doesn't matter which bathroom you go in, you'll probably be raped anyway.
>>44436110yes because you are not a woman, you're just autistic.
>>44436142again, this long standing prison authority on safety that has been in place for decades now about housing. You are completely undoing this by making a bioessentialist categorical argument.
>>44436126question: would you be ok with a trans women using the bathroom in front of your young boys?
>>44436190Yes, because young boys would laugh at you. Just like kids laugh at midgets and dwarves.
>>44436179I can assure you, if you hadn't transitioned you'd still be the prison bitch anyway.
>>44436234>I can assure you, if you hadn't transitioned you'd still be the prison bitch anyway.In male prisons, there is a huge difference between trans women and prison bitches. Trans women are fought over like territorial capitals. They are viewed as actual women in prisons, with guys serving life who's only access to women now on is them. Prison bitches are basically the weak guy who gets a stronger lad to protect them.
>>44436213>Yes, because young boys would laugh at you. Just like kids laugh at midgets and dwarves.Why do you want us to be humiliated?
>>44436213Remember how I said>. You want trannies (regardless of passing) to be the rape and violence heatsink for cishet men because you believe that as long as we're dogpiled on the bottom, you will be more protected.Well, this is all part of it. The more the trans woman is dehumanised, the happier you are, including expressly encouraging her (our) dehumanisation to the youngest minds possible so that you can indoctrinate them further into your bioessentialism.It's ultimately not about anyones dignity, but rather removing the dignity of trans women.>>44436234NTA, but I was trying to join the RM before I fully committed to trooning out, and I did fit into that environment. I was about 73-75kg of relatively lean muscle, and as said previously, I do blue-collar work.Again, it's the whole dehumanisation bit; we must all be "autistic" because that allows you to rob us of agency. You don't actually believe we're clinically diagnosable with it (and in fact, when you go for a F64 diagnosis, they screen for autism, so I know for a fact I'm not). The idea that we're innately the "prison bitch" is also just more proof that the objective is to get trans women to be the rape heatsink and to suggest that, in fact, that is our innate purpose.For me at least, I'd just like you to be honest with what the score is here. I don't need you to change stances, but quit larping like there's any morality to your argument.
>>44436299Are you trying to say there aren't weak femboys in prisons that don't get specifically targeted and identified as the one to rape, and this only happens to trannies because they're viewed as actual women?
>>44436406thats not what i said. i said in prisons trans women are women. so peking order is highest for them. > Are you trying to say there aren't weak femboys in prisons that don't get specifically targeted and identified as the one to rape, they are, but fem boys are still dudes. there is a difference between fem guy snd trans women, all in make up and feminine clothing. it causes a different reaction among men sexually.
>>44436361Have you ever sat back and thought, why only in the last 10 years are we now suddenly getting massive push back and hated on even by what we believed was our own community?Yes, I agree with you, TERFs, LGB, normies want you to lose your dignity. Perhaps try and understand it and adjust your behaviour.Transexuals and Transvestites of the past didn't receive the backlash the Transgender ideology is getting now. Try and work out why that is
>>44436458In prison you won't be dressed up and made up like your favourite anime girl. You'll either look like the femboy anyway or you'll just be the regular fat hairy guy you're trying to destroy
>>44435250>>44435250Its collapsed now, there are riots up and down the country, also they are dismantling the welfare state and people are dying
>>44436465Give a consistent definition for "transgender ideology" because every time I ask I get a different answer or a non-answer.Not that your line of questioning has any relevance to what I said (nor is it reflective of my actual experiences with other LGB people).TERFs want us to lose our dignity because they are ideologically driven and enabled latent sociopaths (I have seen this first hand with TERFs in my local area and the men who support them), not because of anything I (or realistically any less conforming/assimilationist tranny) have done. As I said already, I do everything they want (even let testosterone rape my body until I was 22, when I knew at 13/14), and it's still not enough.Transvestites have nothing to do with me and mine, those are just cis men in drag, transsexuals have had this same backlash for basically all of modern history, save for any brief moment of woke 1.0 between 2014-2019. I guarantee if I ask you to explain why you think it is, you'll throw out ideological dogma that works out as complete nonsense.What's stupid is to go>Perhaps try and understand it and adjust your behaviour.When I am literally >>44435962 , so how about you tell me what you want me to do to keep you happy that I'm not already doing, but I can guess the answer is probably just "stop HRT and kill yourself at 30"Mind you I've never had an issue with another LGB person, only cishet people.
>44435303New terf strafegy is to pretend terf usland isnt anti trans.The BBC is deeply anti trans, they often quote Sex Mattress as authority's and never speak to trans people. They always use the term "biological male that identifies as a woman", regardless of the topic.The BBC puts out around 6000 anti trans articles a year
>>44435962Girl, stop letting people who hate you dictate your life.Get your eyebrows done, your local salon will be grateful for the money, they're already struggling to the UKs punitive business rates
>>44436018Why be ashamed of a medical condition? Its this evil society that should be ashamed of itself
>>44436465>Try and work out why that isThe people in charge made the exact same arguments about gay and lesbian people, the British government made it punishable by prison to even mention lgbt people in schools, thanks Thatcher you cunt.They lost on gay marriage and pivoted to trans people, using the same arguments. And just like before, it was bullshit then and its bullshit now
>>44436571>They always use the term "biological male that identifies as a woman", regardless of the topic.This is the most neutral and impartial term they can use. You find it offensive because you think you're a woman and gender critical people find it offensive because they want you to be called a man.Also picture debunks your anti-trans claim
>44436629Its direct terf language, and dehumanising. It is not neutral.
>>44436636What's dehumanising about being referred to by your biological sex?
>44436650Because we are not referred to our biological sex. Why do you like scientifically inaccurate ideological language
>>44436567How can you give a consistent definition of transgender ideology, when the transgender community can't even give a consistent definition?For example the classic "if gender is a social construct, why do you need to modify your body to match to opposite sex?"
>>44436656What are you trying to claim? That you're not actually a biological male?
>44436679The clue is in the word, transexual. Sex has been changed. What are you trying to claim, that your screeching ideological hate takes precedence over demonstrable genome expression?
>>44436694Chopping off your penis and taking HRT doesn't change your sex
>44436702You dont know what genome expression is.Your langauge is as vulgar as you are idiotic. You lack scientific rigour and do not understand what biological sex even is. Can you define biological sex?
>>44436694I'm not trying to claim. I'm claiming you are a biological male.When you transitioned, did you stop producing sperm and started ovulating?
>>44436731You can claim the sky is falling down.You lack scientific rigor, you lack decorum and no one cares what you think. Last reply for you
>>44436774Ok as you seem to be a scientific expert, here's your definition:>Biological sex is the classification of an organism as male or female based on the type of gamete (reproductive cell) its body is organized to produce. Males are organized to produce small gametes (sperm), while females are organized to produce large gametes (eggs/ova).>Male: typically XY chromosomes, with development organized toward producing sperm.>Female: typically XX chromosomes, with development organized toward producing eggs (ova).>A man with Klinefelter syndrome (XXY) who is infertile is still biologically male because his body is organized around the male reproductive pathway.>A woman with Turner syndrome (X) who cannot produce eggs is still biologically female because her body is organized around the female reproductive pathway.Please debunk me
>>44436607Because I know no one actually sees it as a medical condition (the dysphoria), and they just see that I'm trans and confer any number of horrific things onto me.>>44436673>For example the classicAs I said, "you'll throw out ideological dogma that works out as complete nonsense.". It's not my job to define "transgender ideology" because I don't believe a consistent "transgender ideology" exists, I am not the one who used the term in argument (rather the opposite); therefore, it is not my job to explain it. I'm not answering your "classic" until you give a consistent definition for the terms >>(you) used.You lot love to try and ask new questions constantly instead of sticking to the actual topic, just searching for a gotcha so you can feel like you're owning the smug lib from your pseudopornographic libs rekt compilation like a teenager rather than trying to arrive at any kind of truth.
>>44436719Gene expression btwDSDs exist, but the underlying reproductive system is still organized around two gamete types. Variations in development don't create additional reproductive sexes.
>>44436886>Because I know no one actually sees it as a medical condition (the dysphoria), and they just see that I'm trans and confer any number of horrific things onto me.Thats because most british people are very stupid, very hateful and very violent. It isnt something wrong with you.Interestingly, left handed people were treated how we are now, throughout the Middle Ages and the Victorian period, people were excluded from society, from employment and hated. British peope have deep hatred in their souls, and always have, conform or die.The problem is, we only live once, and letting people who hate us dictate our lives can never end well. Maybe not tomorrow, but in time i hope you can grow into yourself
>>44436914>Thats because most british people are very stupidDoesn't change that I have to live around them. If the majority of society is hateful and stupid, then the minority who aren't have to conform to the majority; in other words, I have to conform to the will of stupid and hateful people to be allowed to exist in society. I spend a lot of time wishing I'd been born too stupid to realise I had dysphoria. Which I realise isn't an especially sane or rational thought, but for whatever reason I feel social pressures more than a lot of other people and I haven't figured out how to force myself to feel differently.
>>44436967You have a few options. 1, leave this hell hole dump and go somewhere trans people arent villanised.2, pass as your target sex, so you blend into the crowd 3, continue excluding yourself from full participation in society 4, engage with society as you are and accept that you risk discrimination None of these should be forced upon us, but we live in demonic times
>>44433372Right which is not as bigAs the large one
>>44433070You're going to have to learn how to pee into the urinal with your frankenvagine then.
>>44436673>if gender is a social construct, why do you need to modify your body to match to opposite sex?Not that anon but the whole "gender is le social construct" crap isn't "transgender ideology", its literally feminist ideology derived from the fact that they invented an entirely new definition of "gender" and were able to impose it on others due to holding cultural hegemony in most of the west. The concept of "gender" as a synonym for sexist stereotypes is unrelated to transsexualism beyond the extent that pretty much everyone is effected by such stereotypes in generalThe whole "gender studies" crowd who push that nonsense basically agree with terfs on nearly everything, they're just mildly more permissive and less rabidly sexist. The notion that "if we could just abolish le gender then noone would need to medically transition!" is the position of both terfs and nominally pro-trans feminists, its just that the latter group are willing to humor the poor misguided trannies until they achieve this supposed goal of "gender abolition", whereas the terfs see trans women as lumbering rape-ogres coming to prey on the poor helpless wombyn and trans men as poor foolish children who've been brainwashed into rejecting their divine wombynhood.
