>ashamed of attraction to men because of childhood shame over homosexuality>ashamed of attraction to women because of predatory mtf stereotypeis there really no winning
I don't feel any shame, I won't apologize
>>44427989Nah, there is winning: get over it and date whoever. Rise above the primitive ideas of people who are not you. You are in control of your own destiny (in this one really tiny way).
>>44427989become a monk
trannies troon out cuz they got bullied out of being gay
>>44427989Have you tried valuing yourself instead. Start from the ground up:What do I like. Theyre things I like to do even when I fail. How can I do these things all the time. Doing these things will be why I live. I challenge myself to do these things to the best of my ability because it's fun. These accomplishments are why I think I'm cool. I can share my coolness with those who think I'm cool. That's how healthy boundaries are formed and how you avoid shame. Somewhere in that process someone or some ugly thought hijacked your goal and made an unnecessary boundary that shackled your potential.
>>44428064the entire point of trannyism is you sexualizing being bullied for being gay and giving into it and trying to be 100% submissive and castrated so your bullies will bully you less instead of fighting back and being openly gay, which women fear far more than you "transitioning" which is just giving up and giving in.
>>44428064i did not expect such thoughtful words, thank you. the shame feels rooted deeply, probably will take a lot more deliberate action to identify the cause.
>>44428077Not interested in your giant generalizations. It should be expected when you cherrypick which experiences people have to see as real that others don't want to even want discuss with you. You'd just use selective hearing to defend your schizo theories. Last reply.
>>44428145it's ok to be gay without taking estrogen
>>44428077One problem: I was never bullied for being gay, and spent pretty much all of highschool and middleschool surrounded by queer people.Your theory is stupid.
>>44428145You welcome any time...
>>44428154It's also ok not to be gay and take estrogen. Or to be gay and take estrogen. Or to not be gay and not take estrogen. Honestly, any combination of those two things.
>>44428157I think a lot of feminine boys are bullied indirectly. People sense they are gay, and exclude/harass them on that basis even if not mentioning that outright. >and spent pretty much all of highschool and middleschool surrounded by queer peoplebecause by then the others had socially rejected you and you would have been shunned otherwise
>>44428175Bruh, what? No one in my school even made fun of anyone for being gay. I was bullied for some things, but being gay or feminine were not on that list at all.My group of friends, made of queer and and straight people were mostly just the nerdy kids. Stop being so weird and making assumptions.Not everywhere is the same. Why are you being so weird?
>>44428252there is no universe where gays are popular and lead the social hierarchy
>>44428252He's not listening to a word you said lol.
>>44428270all trannies do is claim gays are not oppressed at all and them being gay and castrating themselves is totally unrelated to social conditions
>>44428274Well that's true, I was harassed but I didn't transition for that reason, as a kid I was barely conscious of my own being and I was already feeling like this.I was harassed for being "delicate"(some retard even gave me that nickname on college), not otherwise.
>>44428313yeah turns out people realized if they directly harass you for being gay you can use that against them but if they make it vague then YOU are convinced nobody hates gays AND they can't be blamed for homophobia win/win for the bullies and you are too stupid to know what's going on anywaysyou are a castrated sheep who does what others tell you to do tranny = gay + autistic
>>44428328What? I just told you they were not afraid of being pieces of shit towards me, I'm a different poster.
>>44428348they were afraid of being pieces of shit DIRECTLY over you being femgayis that not your own claim?
>>44428363...If telling everyone to call me Delicate is not direct harassment I don't know what is.
>>44428259Lead? We just kinda existed. What is with this idea that sexuality has anything to do with the social hierarchy at all?There were some gay people outside our group of friends and there were some in, why do you assume everywhere is the same?>>44428270I know. Some people can't deal with reality being not what they expect.>>44428274I literally never said gay people are not oppressed? I just grew up in a place where it was fairly universally acknowledged that gay people are oppressed in wider society. It was a pretty cool place to live DESU, didn't change anything about me being trans.I'm not actually gay BTW, I'm bi. Oh, and being trans is definitely more stigmatized than being gay so your logic really doesn't add up.I feel like you are literally failing basic reading comprehension here though.
>>44428259Actually, I have something to add to >>44428516Genuinely where did you get the idea that queer people led the social higherarchy? How is "not being bullied for being gay because it just wasn't seen as a cool thing to bully someone for" the same thing as "leading the social higherarchy"?
>>44428739>Genuinely where did you get the idea that queer people led the social higherarchy?queer is not a thingyou are either gay or notmy point was the opposite, gays are NEVER allowed to lead the social hierarchy"being with the nerds" means you are on the bottom rung of the social ladder>>44428516being gay is far less accepted than being trans, women LOVE watching gay men castrate and humiliate themselves publicly
>>44427989What
>>44427989Trannies sure never learned to deal with internalized homophobia and solve this problem. That's why they troon
