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I SUFFER IMMENSELY AS A TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUAL IN AUCKLAND NEW ZEALAND edition

QOTT: why do you hate new zealand and living in it?
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Scott if you're here I will rape your tight little bussy
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i suffer immensely as an ugly boymoder in australia who needs a boyfriend
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is there any way to get pio in australia that doesn't cost one hundred united states dollars holy moly
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I saw one of you while I was out today. You are uglier in person
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>>44430455
im sorry anon
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>>44430227
>I SUFFER IMMENSELY AS A TRANSGENDER INDIVIDUAL IN AUCKLAND
big same
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>>44430593
HENDERSON
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>>44430616
I'm in beach haven
also if you're op im pretty sure we've talked on discord a few years ago
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>>44430643
Not OP but what's ur disc we probably have at some point cause small city
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Hello transwhatever's how are you today
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>>44430669
yeah i feel like there can't be that many from here on this board, it's organic.rust
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I really don't want to grow big flabber tits on my body
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does anyone have any tips for boymoding in Australian Summer? it gets to 40+ degrees where i live and i can’t afford to move but i won’t be ready to girlmode by summer this year
wearing my normal black hoodies would be out of the question
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>>44430787
Take a concrete pill mate haha
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>>44430787
thin fabrics and clothes that are a little bit oversized or loose can help. you want airflow. thin fabrics are good because you can still layer them a little without really stacking up the insulation. dark clothes as well soak in the heat, try lighter colours
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>>44430719
i use american spelling so no one can tell I'm australian hehe
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>>44430227
move to australia like the rest of us
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>>44430787
thin fabrics are key but imo the most important thing is a tight white singlet or cami under them to keep your chest together and flat underneath a baggy tee
uniqlo tends to run kind of baggy/boxy so their t shirts are a good option, they have a whole airism line of stuff made with cooling fabrics
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>>44431243
I have no money
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>>44430451
well at least prog has been added to PBS so its cheap now
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>>44431438
How much and when was this? Last time I was on it it was like $30-40 for a month's worth. I stopped because I wasn't noticing much change. This was about 3 years ago.
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About to start manmoding and the weather will not stop me wearing two layers of hoodies year around
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>>44431529
-2.5c in auckland yesterday
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do any Australian ftms use this board
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>>44431560
It's been hot as fuck in WA recently
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>>44430787
get some ventilated hi viz and hang around the pub and people will give you jobs doing retarded illegal building work and heaps of fucking cash tax free
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>>44431565
I knew one and they detrooned recently
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>>44431565
a neo-nazi skinhead named karter and his friend who wears a cowboy hate
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>>44430876
>>44431278
ty nonas
>>44431583
fuck yeah cunt
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>>44431565
i knew this one ftm dude in highschool who did but that was like 6 years ago, he probably left a long time ago
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Hello I am Australian and I want to have sex with my brother
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anyone here from Greater Brisrael?
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>>44431989
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Go to essendon station I hate minta she sucks grrr Also angel is AGP
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>>44431989
I love this place I truly believe I will never die
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>>44432074
it rules here. spent yesterday in the tunnel systems below the city
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Aussie tranner <3 American chaser
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>>44431989
yeah, fuck this place. prescribers here are all round awful, especially the women doctors, can't wait to get hondosed in a few years time when I run out of vials.
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>>44432074
hi hehe >:)
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>>44432203
>especially the women doctors
this part is baffling to me. shouldn't they know more about this stuff, not less?
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>>44432238
no that's the problem, what exactly motivates a woman to go into trans healthcare. the ones in bris are quite famous for taking it upon themselves to intentionalally hondose people, at least from what I've heard from the mouths of other bris trannies i've met irl. they tend to be all right with trans men for some reason. at least you know the male doctors tend to have a saviour complex and probably derive some sort of self aggrandising fulfillment from the goodwill or even adoration, they get from the patients, depending on how good they are at emotional manipulation.
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>>44432280
The best male doctors are ones who are chasers
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How the fuck do i get my diy from overseas stop getting intercepted at the border istg they have my address on lockdown
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Who Perth here?
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>>44432378
how do you tell if your hrt has been intercepted? i ordered estrogen like a month ago and it still hasn't arrived but im not sure if it's just taking forever or if it's been intercepted and im gonna have to order new stuff
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>>44432378
my vial from otokonoko arrived today without issue. if you can deal with the faggy weeb packaging maybe try them
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>>44432566
dunno if its the same but when I've had knives and stuff seized by customs they sent me a letter
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>>44432203
yeah my doctor basically medically detransitioned me for a month and that was the last push I needed to switch to diy. gonna do my first injection next week
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>>44432280
goddamn fuck this stupid ass country
wait no it's like that everywhere isn't it
we're all at the mercy of otokonoko and their femboy oil
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>>44432413
perth gang
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how many of us are there in sydney I wonder. compared to melb there's roughly zero clockable troons in sydney from what I've seen, why is that?
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>>44433179
maybe you're blind
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bump
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>>44434155
Its the middle of the night I don't know how many aussies are going to respond any time soon
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>>44433179
just go to the inner west
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>>44431453
It was fairly recently, I have a health concession card and can get it for $7 a month, but full price with medicare is $25 a month
>stopped because I wasn't noticing much change
If you were doing oral then that's probably why, doing it rectally does actually work, I've been getting growth but also a lot of weird cognitive symptoms :/
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>>44433179
>zero clockable troons in sydney
I walk around the city often so I'm glad that no one here has noticed
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>>44430227
>live in the best tranny country in the world
>complain
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tell your doctor u diy but you want to continue with prescription injectables, u should be able to get a valerate prescription, if he refuses call him a transphobe and say u will leave a bad google review, he will fold.
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Minta
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>>44434807
it was so the thread would survive til morning
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minta
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>>44432203
wow i'm not the only one
i literally detransitioned for a while because my levels on my prescribed pills were so bad and the only offered alternative was patches which just slid right off my sweaty skin in summer :(
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>>44436875
>best tranny country in the world
all the doctors hondose you even the ones who want to help
no surgery options anywhere
diy is a pain in the arse
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panacea if you're listening can you post your recipes or something
I don't wanna have to sui when the climate wars start
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>>44439587
have you tried estrogen gel like sandrena? it's better than pills because it goes straight into the bloodstream instead of being broken down in the liver
patches didn't really work well for me either, but gel is works much better
other alternatives include injections ig but they're expensive
>>44439659
you literally just need to keep asking your doctor to put you on a higher dosage
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>>44439587
mmmm sweaty skin....
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>>44439881
>just ask nicely
sure whatever but it sucks that my literal DOCTOR will never give me a straight fucking answer on whether a dose is enough to suppress t. I only do injections anymore cause I'm so paranoid
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>>44439881
yea no i just diy enanthate now and pray every time that it doesn't get seized
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>>44439929
well something somewhat manipulative that you can do is purposefully take a lower dosage or skip a day before getting a blood test so your levels look lower than they are, and then use that as proof to get your dosage increase
>whether a dose is enough to suppress t
isn't that the point of getting the blood tests done though? like it varies from person to person
>>44439951
>enanthate
oh is that an ftm thing? I don't really know much about hormones for you guys
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>>44439973
>isn't that the point of getting the blood tests done
they never show me the blood test results they just say yeah this is enough and it's pills with no aa and they had already said some worrying as fuck shit ("spiro is good because it doesn't lower your testosterone too much so you still get spontaneous erections") so I just went back to diy because fuck this shit
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>>44439973
wdym enanthate is like the standard for mtf diy
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>>44432280
If you have like 2-3 packages intercepted by the faggot border fascists then you are put on enhanced surveillance and they will open literally everything that comes to you from overseas for like 5 years. Put the mail in another person you knows name - get it sent to an auspost box - and also use a mail foward service for extra protection. People the post shit to you declare what it is and vague declarations like vial of liquid gets your shit snatched but mail forwarding services get around this because they just declare "forwarded package" or something. Also can't you get a TGA personal import thing? I dunno anything about tranny medicine, I bring in smokes and cigars
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>>44440222
4u>>44432378
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>>44432566
the package is delayed ages then they send you the box with nothing in it and a letter calling you a retard
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Zonked off the zyn who up on they shit majestical like
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>>44433133
gang gang
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anyone from melbourne doing anything tonight?
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>>44440514
Might go to solace and do lots of ket
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I hate my fucking life
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>>44440222
tell me more about these mail forwarding services
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>>44440514
eat too much, dissociate
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>>44432029
Angel mention, melboids name dropping in this bitch
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what are the ftms who use grindr like? seen a couple but not sure
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>>44440746
Pretty easy stuff. You find a mail forward service in the country you are buying from and they will give you a PO box in that country - you order whatever and send it to the PO box and they forward it to you for a fee usually like 10 bucks. Some of them are super rule cucked and will open your package a declare exactly what it is but heaps of them won't. If your a bringing in stuff that is super hot stuff it might be worth sending it to another countries mail forwarding service because auspost faggots will declare a origin for enhanced surveillance but you probs don't need to worry about this for tranny medicine. The origin might be hot for other shit though (drugs, guns basically) and they might have advanced surveillance. US was a known destination for tobacco packages which became a big thing when the fire brings popped of so I just sent my smokes to Canada and got them forwarded from there and it was all good
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>>44430227
>Be a tranny
>Live in ACK-land
Well, what did you expect?
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bomp
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>>44430227
bump
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Good mornijg auckland
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Bump
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four n twenty pie ads on my pirated ufc stream
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>>44440545
Ended up doing this, was fun. If anyone fucking cares
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>>44449006
i dont give a shit dude im so fucking hungover leave me alone
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>>44449006
i do give a shit i’m not hungover stay with me
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>>44449047
I'm very hungover too don't come at me

>>44449062
Thank you my spirits are raised, I'm going to go get some dumplings for dinner
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>>44442203
to find one that isn't rule cucked do you just go by reviews and ToS?
I know that a lot euro countries are targetted for drug delivery, i guess the us as well. Are there other good countries besides canada?
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>>44449725
i ask you to stay and you leave for dumplings… hope you’re happy together..
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>>44442216
geg


alright so from what i understand new zealand has a problem with hondosing and customs control, but besides that its okay? im seriously considering moving to nz in 10 years time if not less, if all goes well
t. ranny
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How do I acquire diy testosterone in new zealand
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>>44450002
Whatever Nz tor dnm is up rn
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>>44449821
Yeah check the TOS or they will usually have some page like "How our service works" and it will say that they check the package. Canada is the place if you are shipping shit from LatAm / US, I never needed the service from euro but i think people were forwarding it through Mauritius when they were getting sneaky shit from the EU. HK was the destination to get shit from China but I dunno now because this was before all those riots and China takeover thing. Good place to scout out good services are forums for bringing in dodgy shit like Tobacco and Replica Clothing / Watches. There are also heaps of individual people in these spaces acting as 'shopping agents' that will forward packages and all of them are legally dodgy but you need to find trusted ones and interact with them through discord and shit. They will forward you shit without checking for sure and know how to get around declarations.
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>>44433179
>compared to melb there's roughly zero clockable troons in sydney from what I've seen, why is that?
You obviously don't go to the inner west or near the unis. I'd say it's because it's more risky to be out if you're clockable outside of those areas. People further east don't like anyone who isn't a copy paste Jew daycare drone, and if you go further west it's all Muslims and bogans.
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living in hawkes bay is gigahell,,, theres less than 1,000 other troons here
if ur bored add me on disc:jvlie
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>>44449842
Oh, I saved you a couple but guess I'll eat them now
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>>44433179
Ive seen twinkhons and would-be-passoids-but-with-no-voice-training-and-memehon-fashion-sense, usually only at events though and not day to day. Ive also seen one or two boomerhons in the city but they dressed well so you wouldnt notice if you didnt get close
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>>44450489
seeing boomerhons is truly traumatic
also idk how any1 girlmodes without voicetraining
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>>44450496
yeah it bothers me a lot that the only difference between me and them is luck
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>>44450507
honey are you even a lateshit
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>>44450513
luck as in when I was born dumbass
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>>44450553
by that logic the only difference between cissoids and them is luck. makes you think
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>>44450565
a lot of luck is involved in looks, more with trans peepole than cis ones, especially because when you start HRT is also super important.
cishons do exist tho,, and theyre all terfs
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Australia and New Zealand
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I just watched the Race Around The World femboy short film on ABC and it made me sad.
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someone needs to fuck angel desu
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I want a cuddle but I'm terrified of human beings life is suffering.
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>>44451234
where do you live and what is your medicare card number?
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Alcoholism
Literature
And unhappy relationships with cissoids

You know the spill c'est la vie
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>>44451326
hello there an individual that likes Holo

how are you doing
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>>44451490
Pretty good. Been playing mahjong and vidya with friends, Thursday and Friday night meet-ups are a regular. Finished Beloved by Toni Morrison just a bit ago and that was good, been enjoying Deadlock and Etrian Odyssey 2 lately. Got annoyed earlier this week since I got fat enough to go up a cup size and I had to buy new bras because my old ones were uncomfortable.
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>>44451322
Carnegie and my Medicare card number ends with 1
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so I went to get a hrt prescription cause I'm running out and I got given this pamphlet to read about The Effects
a few gems
>Before you make your decision, your treating health team needs to assess that starting oestrogen would be to your benefit.
>With Hormone Therapy it is better to start feminine changes slowly. Starting Hormone Therapy slowly will mimic a typical biological puberty, optimise your physical results, and minimise any potential side effects.
>You should speak with your doctor if you are uncomfortable about any of the changes caused by oestrogen, and your doctor may be able to adjust the dose to better meet your needs.
>Please note: if you take a higher dose of oestrogen than prescribed, this can result in smaller breasts/less optimal breast shape, and disproportionally large nipples.
>There is an increased risk of developing blood clots after surgery or if you are immobile for a long time. You should speak with your doctor before you have any surgery.
>If spironolactone is taken with oestrogen, it usually decreases testosterone levels to within the typical range of cisgender females within one year of commencing treatment.
>The long-term risks of using oestrogen are not fully known, and there may be other potential risks involved with Hormone Therapy with oestrogen that have not yet been identified.
actual fucking neanderthals I'm going to kill myself
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>>44450002
Discord?
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Bump
Wake up faggots its monday
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preface that im retarded and know that this is not the right space to do this in. but if i wanted to get substances (painkillers, anti-emetics, etc) other than diy in aus, where/how would i find them? im too spergy to actually find a dealer or socialise.
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>>44456528
learn to use tor and find whatever is the biggest market rn on tor.taxi and filter by australia
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>>44432413
im in perth! I'm wondering how to diy bloodtests...
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>>44452422
this pisses me off so much. they clearly think of estrogen as an aberration and testosterone as fine to be on and then fearmonger based on anecdotes while calling it medical consensus
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>>44439587
Where were you placing the patches? and what brand?
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*puts some water in your tomato sauce bottle so you get that gross watery spurt all over your food next time you use it*
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>>44440010
you can access your blood test results anytime. register MyMedicare in the Medicare app and then link My Health Record in MyGov
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>>44458785
Nice try glowie
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>>44440010
>good because it doesn't lower your testosterone too much
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>>44457526
Idk about DIY, but I get my bloods done at Foothills GP
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>>44452422
>>44457869
Fearmonger? You do realize by fucking with your hormones your cancer chances begin to increase exponentially the greater the changes are? That's not an anecdote, that's a medical fact that existed long before people started fucking with HRT.
Fuck, the main reason it's not widely established about HRT having a cancer risk (even though it sort of is, but clearly you're ignoring that part) is because the majority of people on HRT are oldies so they die anyway. So they're being conservative because if they fuck up, you get cancer. Is it really that surprising considering how rush adverse Australia is these days? Not everything is a transphobic prejudice you paranoid fuck.
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>>44458841
>don't you know having female hormones in your male body is heckin dangerous?!?
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>>44458863
Having HGH in your body is heckin dangerous, retard, so of course messing with things that alter your endocrine structure to completely counter your chromosomal framework is dangerous. You can literally get cancer -if your body does it on its own- let alone if you artificially induce changes. And that's not even the only issue. The clotting issues, the renal issues, the nervous issues are all very real as well.

And if you pulled your head in for a microsecond. You'd realize I'm not saying it can't be done safely or it's impossible. I'm saying there are risks attached that you don't get to narcissism your way through, and the people giving you the treatments are legally liable. So I'm sorry that you're impatient and you want everything now, but you can't force them to ignore the risks because you want to be puri puri princess ten years ago. Pull your head in.
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>>44458904
you're soooo uppity
>completely counter your chromosomal framework
do remind me what century this is?
and I do get to be mad that the default policy is to hondose and act like that's fucking okay. it's not.
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>>44458904
>wanting the hormonal profile of a cis woman is asking for gigacancer
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>>44458951
I imagine you don't get told no often and it's made you a self important child unaware that you aren't the center of everyone's universe. Don't feel bad, it's typically the Australian zeitgeist and has been for like 30 years.

I get it. But there's more going on than just making sure you get a banging set of tits or are doomed to permanently having to shave your face.
>>44458994
You can use hyperbole all you want, but it just proves you don't know what you're talking about from a medical perspective and so you're the least expert opinion on the subject because you're just going to go straight for whatever emotionally appeals to you regardless of the reality. It's not about you, it's not about transphobia, the risks are real. If it makes you feel better they are probably being ultra conservative with doses because we live in a society of ultra condescending paternalism and self righteousness. But like i said, that's not transphobia or anti science.
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>>44459045
I'll level with you. I have actually thought about this subject quite a lot. if it is in fact as absurdly risky as you say - I don't care. I would rather have too much estrogen and too little testosterone than too little estrogen and too much testosterone. I would rather die than continue to masculinise. that is my decision.
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>>44459078
I get it, and i empathize in the thought that it feels like there is a happy medium, where they're not hondosing you and still doing it safely and it's largely not happening cause it's still pretty controversial and niche, and there's risk attached to doctors helping you past a certain risk threshold. But it's impossible to know at this point.

Ultimately what i say is irrelevant, the only thing I hope to impart is don't completely ignore the risk. Be as smart as you can about it and don't let nihilism encourage you to disregard your health to achieve your goals when you can have both.
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>>44459122
what are you anyway? you're clearly not a zoomer and I doubt you're a tranny
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>>44458841
we have a gang of unelected medical bureaucratic fucks that ban everything fun and tax the fuck out of everything that they haven't been able to ban yet completely destroying the social lives of entire generations so you can be a good little wagey and you they can juice an extra five years of labour out of you. faggot doctors, pussies from sydney and the cunts that ride bikes in full lycra bodysuits need to go in to labour camps so they can live their safe wagey lifestyle away from normal people.
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>>44458805
im a tranny and my trough levels r 725pmol/L 0.5nmol/L w prescription patches and cypro. any other things I could say to glow brighter?
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>>44459230
>cunts that ride bikes in full lycra bodysuits
If I didn't troon out I'd be one of them by now...
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>>44458749
i'd put them either on my lower abdomen (like diagonal from the belly button) or lower back in roughly the equivalent spot
i think it was climara, looking it up they seem to be discontinued now, at least the weekly ones
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>>44459182
I am a meat popsicle. Not a zoomer, not a tranny. Have dick. Stuck in Australia.
>>44459230
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>44459570
I actually diy'd climara for about 6 months at one point. I think estradot twice weekly would be much easier, they are physically much smaller maybe 33% the size of climara 25% of estraderm.

Also placed just below the navel. You're probably past going back to patches but just some thoughts for you
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>>44459614
no i appreciate it, besides sweat the big problem with the climara patches was that they were large enough that they'd fold and warp so it's good to know the alternatives are smaller in case i ever need to swap back, ty
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seeeeeex seeeeex
seeeex with angel seeeeeeeeeeexxxxxx
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>>44459980
shut up angel, go back to grindr
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>>44459980
Who is angel
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>>44460684
a very cute and plappable boymoder
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is the nona who wanted to get beat up and whos thready got deleted here perhaps
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>>44459778
Yea estradot has never folded/warped for me, just like be careful taking it out because it can crease in the middle. Personally my only concern is skin irritation, less severe than climara but my GP does pellets so I'll probably look to those in 2-3 years
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I suffer because im too stupid to make the friendships I crave
>>44433179
I see clocky girls on the regular when I visit sydney, and I don't even live there
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Where the dick where the dick where the dick at
I hate niggers im not cut where the wood at
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@minta
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who the fuck is minta
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pm if you're in nz and would be willing to euthanize a dropkick 28yo hon plox we can make it look like sui or an od. i cant do it anymore. but im too weak to follow thru

serious inquiries only please

disc nonayourbusinesss
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
bump and to clarify i am the 28yo hon
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
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>>44431565
I got banned on the Discord of one for posting Stonetoss pics
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
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>>44462132
Sorry im too much of an alcoholic to do it
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>>44465806
i'll buy you $3000 of alc
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>>44462132
why would anyone want to do that
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>>44465824
Do you need a hug
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>>44466241
Because the removal of pain from a living creature is an act of kindness

>>44466264
I've had plenty of hugs, what i need is the pain to stop
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>>44466323
Where in nz are you
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>>44431565
ive gotten a couple of guys on here but they were only interested in the picrew threads and personality tests or whatever, they stopped after the threads stopped coming popping up
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>>44466391
middle of the north island hby?
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>>44466412
Auck
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>>44466419
im sorry to hear that
west south north shore or center?
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>>44466441
West lol
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>>44466467
i grew up in swanson lolz
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>>44466489
Damn
Ill add u at some point
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>>44465824
fly to australia and give me the remaining money and ill do it nona
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>>44461150
where do you visit
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>>44462132
bump
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>>44462132
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>>44462013
a semi popular tranny artist in sydney who there are dedicated schizos who felt she personally wronged them that lurk this board
>she doesnt even go by minta anymore because of the cyberstalking
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>>44468382
>>44468382
Hi minta
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>>44462013
>>44468382
>>44468387
It wouldn't be Ausgen without you
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eating woolies onigiri a day past its used by date
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>>44430227
Anyone know any trannies from Wellington? I saw a cute short boymoder the other day, but I didn't say anything. Taking the chance someone here might know
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>>44468604
were you a responsible shopper (did you steal it)
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>>44468628
i haven't shoplifted anything since i was like 8
and it's my local so probably a bad idea to get banned from there
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>>44468726
laaaame
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>>44468382
it’s so obvious this is minta bcz nobody is cyberstalking you and your also not semi popular you literally cry on twitter 24/7 about being lonely
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>>44462132
final bump before i sleep. Be well Australashons
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why is every australian tranny attractive it's not fair
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What’s the minta lore?
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>>44468818
There are more ugly troons here than not, it's just survivalship bias.
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>>44468822
really schizophrenic person who basically sabotaged all her friend groups and friends because she’s a schizo. most trans people in aus who are even a little involved in this know of her because she’s an idiot and an ass and refuses to improve despite previously criticising others for doing the same thing. she’s a freak lol.
basically tldr: schizophrenia bpd tranny who is known by a lot of people that’s it.
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G'day cunts
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>>44468875
>no cunt
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Census night. Gonna out yourselves tonight?
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>>44468831
involved in what? what the fuck are you schizos talking about? your 4chan psychobabble ain't nothing but a peanut outside when you talk to real human beings instead of the groids on this board
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>>44468831
is she hot? i could fix her if so
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>>44468941
I'm in two minds. I might be honest about my genderfucked identity, but what's the point really? So I can up the stats by 0.001% Doesn't the census become public after a certain amount of time? I don't know if I want people in 100 years time to know I was weird. Also what if Pauline gets in and she rounds all if us up? What is there's a data leak and the data becomes deanonymised through some fuck up? Seems like a lot of potential downsides with not a lot of upsides.
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With all the indians coming in it wont be long until we start getting second gen indians trooning out
Imagine your deadname being surinderjeet or kumar
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>>44469109
Yeah, there is always that concern, especially with the palantir bullshit. It's pretty clear now that even if the information might be helpful. You never know who's going to get in next and abuse the information.
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I'm not doing the census I don't owe the government my data. Also funny how like a decade ago when they made it no longer anonymous there was this huge outcry about it, but now the general narrative is that if you don't trust the census you're some schizo cooker one nation voter. If anything you should distrust the census even more now with the massive ramp up of compute and rapidly evolving AI tech that enables easy mass surveillance.
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>>44469207
i agree but isn't there a big ass fine for not doing it?

like i said, i agree with you, i'm also just kinda at the point where i want to interface with society and be a normo. i live under the assumption that they're already in my walls and devices, and i'm kinda just sighing about it and accepting it. i don't use social media or nothin, but i'm not gonna fight the uphill battle of shit like this anymore
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>>44469386
In your walls is a bit paranoid, unless you've gotten gov attention. They're sort of in your devices, they have access unless you specifically get hardened devices that have custom modems, but again, comes down to whose attention you get as to whether that gets used. All your meta data is archived and they can scrape your shit if you get their attention, but the meta data is sufficient to keep you in line.
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>>44469462
Everyone talks about "hardened devices", but unless someone has the facilities to delaminate the PCB boards and crack open a CPU and inspect the instruction set down at the layer of the logic gates, I don't believe it for a second. Every other month there's some shit about the US feds trying to bully Apple or whatever into making a backdoor. Steganography was a thing in the mid 80s and wasn't known to the general public until the mid 2000s. I simply do not believe anyone talking about hardened devices.

Even just using "hardened devices" is itself a flag, a column in the database where the rows are our names, because the assumption today is "if you've got nothing to hide..."

Like you said, the metadata is sufficient to keep me in line, and I'm content to mostly just shrug about it. Some government somewhere in the world is either watching me through my phone's camera right now, or it would at least be trivial for them to do so. And that's fine! I've accepted it. I'm a law abiding tranny, I'll get in the pod. Won't eat the bugs, though.
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Gonna do the census now. I'll decide how honest I'm gonna be when I see the questions. I'm assumuing I can't put my sexuality as asexual and my relationship status as in a relationship with my 2D wife

>>44469508
>watching me through my phone's camera
This is why I put blutack on my camera when I have a wank.
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>>44469508
I was talking phones, the modem is always gov owned in Australia, you pretty much have to either rip them out for a non cooked one, or find someone who can change the firmware, or import one from overseas. Just reflashing phone OS isn't enough. Though it does wipe out most of the commercial adware stuff. I'm both cases there a chance that it reveals it's non cooked which comes down to whether you've gotten gov attention as to whether they book you for it. Laws still have the caveat of "belief of wrong doing" unless it's like border patrol type shit

CPU wise, yeah, pretty much anything post 2014 is built with backdoor access which it a pain to close. Not impossible. But black devices are rare af. Everything else is either compromised or open to it. Privacy is long dead. We're in a surveillance state, we just don't advertise it
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Guys the government already knows you're a tranny if you post here
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>>44469014
no
>>44469005
lmao okay retard
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Okay I put non-binary and bisexual come and get me Pauline
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>>44469573
They don't know, but they'll add it to your profile that you post here as evidence that you are.
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>>44469594
my year 6 teacher used to make fun of her for being racist but nobody knew who she was. wish it stayed that way and that she didn't make a successful comeback :( it'd suck if we got the uk treatment when it came to hrt.
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>>44469596
they don't care enough to note that your trans, they'll slightly just up your risk rating on their overly complicated watchlist.
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I'm more worried that the govnernment is incompetent and 100% should NOT be trusted with our data. They said they separate the names from the data once it's processed, but it's still entirely possible someone fucks something up, or the website is compromised and records your answers.

If you are genuinely scared and don't want to out yourself, don't put an honest answer. If you don't really give a shit if people learn you're non-binary just put it down there.

Reality is if you post in places like this it's probably more likely you're going to be outed by someone other than the government anyway.
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I did the census and clicking on 'man' as my gender felt gross
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>>44469550
Even shit like modems, I don't buy it. On any device, there's going to be some component that can't practically be inspected. Phones as well are especially cooked, they may as well be doing a permanent colonoscopy on us.

Idk, on one hand I think am a doomer about it all relative to a lot of normos, but on the other hand I think I've made my peace with it and am rather chill. I assessed my life situation, only "compromising" piece of data about me is that I'm tranny. I'm not interested in any illegal shit, I'm content to just go to work and come home and chill out with a cuppa and some viddy games or a book or whatever.

Opsec is a journey, not a destination, and I've accepted that I'm never getting to wherever this journey is taking us, anyway. Staasi comes and fucks my house up while I'm at work, I'm just gonna shrug and say "damn underpants gnomes at it again".

>>44469649
>They said they separate the names from the data
idk if you've noticed, but they say a lot of things
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>>44469649
disinfo on my chinese basket weaving forum?
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>>44469109
it becomes public after 99 years. but it's hosted on aws and you better believe they're looking
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>>44469713
>mfw i remember how much critical infrastructure is hosted on whatever cloud services
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I'm kind of looking forward to the newscorpse rage articles when they find out like 15% of the country is non binary.
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>>44469688
they can't just put 'male' no they have to put MAN
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>>44469735
No way it will be 15% of the country. It might be 15% of 18-30 year olds in Melbourne. That might make them even angrier though.
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>>44469109
hanson didn't even want the data collected in the first place
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Anyone here with a firearm license in vic? I need advice with getting my hands on one for the sole purpose of putting a bullet in my skull :3
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>>44469764
Yeah but if she has the data she'll use it.
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>>44469771
You're not gonna get a license if you talk about how your gonna use it to blow your brains out.
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>>44469782
I betcha 20 id be able to
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>>44469806
nta, but i'll take that bet. put the $20 in the drop location and i'll leave my $20 there too, and when i see your name in the obituaries i'll go back and give you the $40. you put your 20 in first, though
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I like how they ask for your work address, so when the whole thing gets leaked in an easily searchable database all my work colleagues can bully me for putting myself down as Asexual.
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>>44469782
I want to get a licence cause I want to go hunting but I'm not an angloid and they'll deny me based on just that. fml
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>>44469839
what type of non-angloid are you?
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>>44469717
It's been half an hour since I submitted this and now I regret it deeply and now I can't change it.
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>>44469823
Nah mate you put the 20 down first otherwise no deal
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>>44469890
it seems we're at an impasse
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>>44469896
Hmmm
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>>44469848
paki
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>>44469965
ooft, my condolences. aus not friendly to you lot, sorry bout that
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>>44469965
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>>44470097
aggretsuko mentioned
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I blame Jax for the sky high stats we're going to see this census.
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>>44469755
>Alexa, play "now you're a man" by DVDA
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never felt as ridiculous as i did writing my male legal name and then listing myself as a heterosexual woman
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>>44470297
ur gonna look REAL dumb 99 years from now
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>No adelaide tr00ns that want a 6'2 straight white chaser
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>>44470383
i opted out :) but next census when my name is changed i'll opt in if i can to give the people sheltering from the acid rain some amusement at the stinky tranny's expense
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bumping just in case we die by morning
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>>44469823
I just realised that since i wasnt ever going to give you my name theres no way for you to know if i followed through. How dare tou try to scam my retarded ass outta 20 whole dollars… i cant believe it…

Also bump to survive the night
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>>44462132

A beautiful ending is upon us, rejoice
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>>44474194
Don't you want to hang around to see just how bad things get?
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>>44470389
>adelaide tr00ns
where?!
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>>44474670
Most likely i'll be here for the algae bloom that eliminates 40-60% of earths oxygen and the breaking of under prepared governmental systems by influxes of climate change collateralized refugees followed by the automated authoritarian rule that comes after.

I'd just rather not watch the painted writing on the wall dry so slow.
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>>44474922
People don't talk enough about the algae and the phytoplankton do they? It's so over but it's gonna be very interesting to see it all go down imo. I'm gonna hang round til the end personally but I get your mindset.
I think we're still got some okayish years in the near term at least
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>>44474965
my pc started running slow after i posted that btw
picrel to what ever caused it.

We have some good times left, I dont want to see the end of it all. Acrid air, salted land, acidic oceans. This world was once beautiful brought to her knees in the blink of an eye by man. Sickening.
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>>44474922
doesn't algae produce oxygen
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>>44458841
falsenvke
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>>44475921
>Anecdotal response is the truth over literal biological facts universal to the endocrine system.
Okay friend pal sweety. We'll throw away almost a century of recorded data about hormone induced illnesses and side effects because you found a quack who seems to know better than the entire medical community.
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>>44475496
There's a lot of types, plant algae and animal algae are the two main groups, when it gets too hot the animal algae blooms and eats all the plant algae and other planktons that generate around half of the worlds O2
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>>44475921
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>>44476293
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>>44476293
>>44476302
what are you trying to accomplish
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>>44476359
Just be a feminine man. It's not hard.
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>>44476403
*BONK*
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>>44476425
Retard
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>>44476293
the penis killing breast growing drugs... kill your penis and make you grow breasts...?
this cannot be...
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any good food places in sydney I should go to?
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hello my dear friends :-)
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>>44470389
i need a 6'2 straight white chaser bf
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I suffer immensely being 5'4.
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Yeah we're cooked bro
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>>44477274
Me except I'm in Melbourne
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>>44470389
>>44474878

Adelaide troon here !!!

Not interested in a chaser since I already have a moid, but good to see someone else from this large country town we call home.
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>>44477697
"Why won't you hold my hand babe"
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>>44477832
Is that the one they used on jackass to slap people walking around the corner?
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>>44476293
except for dry skin, these are like, desired effects for trans women lmao. even infertility - most trans women i know aren't into the idea of having kids if it means they have to be the baster, not the turkey

>>44476302
4 of these are unique to afabs because they happen to the uterus or ovaries, and better yet, it explicitly says "doesn't necessarily cause these conditions", just that it "may worsen a condition or symptom you already have" which.... idk, i have cock and balls, i don't predict it's going to worsen my symptoms of... ovarian cancer? come on

also,
>no actual citations, just yolo screenshots of fuckin whatever
>no breakdown of risk for trans women against cis women as a control
>no establishment of causal relationships

i won't ask if you were dropped on your head as a child, because that much is obvious, but when was the last time you were dropped on your head? last few days? or last few hours?
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>>44477884
>no actual citations, just yolo screenshots of fuckin whatever
Just like >>44475921

No idea why you're acting like a brains trust when you're ignoring mechanism of disease. Plus that's like a fanny hairs worth of possible outcomes hormone imbalance can cause.
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any ftm chasers in Syd? I wanna lose my virginity. you can force fem me if you want, or not.
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>>44478222
There a few, but all the ftms are just attention seekers that don't actually do hook ups and always chicken out before a meet up. If you're serious, drop a contact.
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>>44478229
>Drop a contact
Not here though, on an appropriate thread on soc. I recommend the aus thread
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>>44478248
I'm trying to delete it but I can't ;-; pls don't ban me
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>>44477007
What kind of food are you looking for? If you just want a burger recommend bondi tony’s in well Bondi, Thai food plenty of places in thaitown but caysorn and @bangkok are my faves check out chapayom while there, also holy basil in Cabramatta but to be honest the green curry is westernised so I don’t like it. Only food Sydney does badly is Mexican, it’s all shit and the best of the pile is Maize if you want upmarket, Papi’s on Oxford St but it’s not a cheap eat for what it is or smoking gringos in Blacktown, all very mid in my opinion. If you want Middle Eastern or Lebanese food then check out Fairfield, Franks is probably my go to place there. Also plenty of good places to check out in Burwood or Cabramatta, too many to list
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>>44470383
Society isn't going to exist in 99 years retard we are barely holding on now as it is.
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I had a dream last night where I was dating a mid 30s chubby autistic guy. It was kind of comfy ngl.
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>>44478214
>hormone imbalance hormone imbalance
Just in general or do you have examples for estrogen specifically? You talk like you're the only one with a source here but you have yet to post anything.
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>>44478277
ty
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>>44478707
Why, so you can pooh pooh them? I'm not pointing them out like anon who was trying to imply HRT causes cancer. They're just risks of hormone imbalance. Estrogen for instance, in AMAB, causes blood clotting issues.
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>>44478874
>lmao
No, I actually want to know things lmao. But even if that was my intention, why should that be a deterrent? Seems silly to me. And to my knowledge there's no variation in blood clot risk between amabs and afabs. Why would there be? If anything having bigger organs on average would decrease the risk of cardiac arrest.
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>>44478962
>>lmao
Fucking piece of shit garbage proofread god damn it.
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>>44478962
Is not just cardiac arrest. Clotting issues extends to strokes and aneurysm too. As for there being risks for AFABs and AMABs with clotting issues. It's different because of how each sex processes iron.
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>>44479016
You mean this?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10327041/
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>>44478874
yes but the increased risk (risk is the key word here - it's not a certainty) of clotting issues is mostly just the risk profile shifting more in line with that of cis women, and away from the risk profile typical of cis men - it's not hormone "imbalance" unless the numbers are literally fried off the charts in one direction or the other, and if all that's really changing is the risk profile moving from one "healthy range" to another "healthy range" (the average risk profiles of men and women), then bringing up these risk increases is
>an intellectual abortion - you are retarted
and/or
>deeply insincere and malicious - you are trying to spook people on purpose

YES, trans people should be informed and understand that their risk profile will change on HRT, but its very dishonest to suggest that this risk profile changing is uniquely worse than that of cis men OR women

AMAB and AFAB aren't relevant here unless we're talking explicitly about health risks associated directly with primary sex organs, because we're talking about... hormones. a trans man taking testosterone, while AFAB, has a risk profile closer to that of a cis man in most regards except for sex organs. again, hormones. focus, focus. you want to talk medical risks, you gotta be a bit more specific. they should make a legally binding hippocratic oath mandatory for everyone, not just doctors, so we can start sifting out the weasels amogus

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>>44478214
>no idea why you're acting like a brains trust
>why should i provide sources? so you can prove me wrong? nice try, i'm not falling for that one
classic
you already pooh poohed yourself
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>>44476425
>>44478972
What causes the tendency of troons to depict themselves as young boys?
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>>44479078
>why do people who's age and gender i do not know post pictures that do not exclusively depict people of the same age and gender as themselves

consider kill self immediately
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>mum asked out of nowhere what gender i listed myself under on the census
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>>44479031
>Thinking health risks are simply related to sex organs
Endocrine system affects more than that, which is the second part of the puzzle you're curiously overlooking despite claiming expert understanding. To put it in simpler terms, is not something you can just muscle from sex to another. You have to do it carefully. Because spending any amount of time as a particular gender, especially after the onset of puberty means all number of tertiary changes take place. How iron resolves in your blood is one of them. Calcium in your bones another. So you can't just cram a bunch of hormones in.

You know your false dichotomy leaves out a third option. Which is moderation and avoiding impatience. Stuff being scary isn't to convince you to stop, that risk averse bullshit. It's to encourage being wise about it.
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>>44479158
bro dw we have thrown a ton of test subjects at the problem and none of them have come back dead
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>>44479147
== CRITICAL BOYMODE FAILURE ==
how'd you get busted
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>>44479301
i have literally no clue, at most i've been going to electrolysis for about a month and wouldn't tell her what i was going out for but at the same time that's meant leaving my facial hair growing so i would think it would counteract any suspicion
i've even been wearing cardigans and jackets 24/7 to hide my chest fml
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>>44479377
maybe she's just paranoid about gender and gendoids in a generic way and turning it on you, independent of your own fagginess. she the type to spend the day yelling at the news and watching tiktok/facebook algo slop?
.
but also maybe you're just really faggy.

much to think about.
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>>44479681
kinda the opposite, she often tells me that she'll love me whatever i choose to be unprompted. im very faggy too though
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4mg e daily + 25mg cypro twice a week = hondose?
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>>44479742
a) your mum is a total chiller, nice
b) if she says this unprompted it means your fagginess is severe enough that she is onto you, if not has been onto you for long long time
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>>44479778
depends on your levels but you're probably fine.
what did your most recent blood test say?
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>>44479778
on that, what about 8mg e a day and 25mg cypro a week?
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>>44480331
*12.5mg cypro, my mistake



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