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It was never about the kids.
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I remember that "It Gets Better" campaign under the Obama administration.

So when does it start getting better?
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>>44431946
>Texas
Not even once
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>>44431946
GOP hasn't installed any of these laws yet, they are having trouble in other places banning hrt for under 26s, we do have such courts and all to help prevent the execution of unfair and unconstitutional laws
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Does anyone actually believe the whole "but the children" rhetoric that's been used to push this and a million things recently? Or are we just letting it happen?
I feel like I already know the answer.
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>>44431987
>Does anyone actually believe the whole "but the children"
No we always knew it was pure bullshit and just a vector to attack trans people.
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>>44431946
look at san antonio, a place full of almost all Hispanic and White people, and an old city founded 100+ Years ago. They recently created a message soon after the trump administration went into office saying that bathrooms would continue to be available. Meaning yes even for trannies. The city literally doesn't care / is flaunting the bathroom law
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It should be legal to take cross sex hormones once you turn 80.


>>44431987
I think hrt should be banned for adults, as do most sensible adults.
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>>44431996
>I think hrt should be banned for adults, as do most sensible adults.
Translation: The government owns my body. I have no autonomy.
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>>44431987
Of course nobody bought that. Everyone intrinsically understood that it was just an easy way for chuds to eventually start the process of banning HRT entirely. Conservapedos don't give a FUCK about kids and never have, just look at their disgusting fat president.
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>>44432006
autonomy presupposes a world without social interaction pressure or actions taken to please others
do you think most people wore masks for health or to not get yelled at?
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>>44432013
>do you think most people wore masks for health
...yes? Maybe if you're a retarded right leaning moron it would be different but most reasonable people didn't want to risk getting sick or fucking dying.
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>>44432013
i only ever got yelled at by anti maskers when i was wearing one, never the other way around
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>>44432013
Most people wore masks because it was mandated. I also oppose that.
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>>44432022
I got yelled at multiple times for not wearing one or wearing it wrong. I saw many others yelled at for not wearing one as well.

>>44432019
trannies are the real right leaning morons, im a far-lefty, that's why im anti trans, I hate gender roles, trannies love gender roles and acting out stereotypes
they make "I wish a man owned me" threads all the time
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>>44431946
>the Party Of Freedom when you want freedom over your own body
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>>44432031
>trannies are the real right leaning morons,
lmao
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>>44432031
>I'm a far lefty so I want the government to remove my bodily autonomy
You're not a lefty, you're just a retard.
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>>44431946
>Performing surgery on healthy body parts
yet circumcision is okay, politicians and their puppet masters need to burn
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>>44432031
>a small minority of trannies like having gender roles in their personal relationships which affect nobody so i want to the government to do things which affect everyone
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>>44431967
It doesnt it wont
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>>44432031
>wearing it wrong
tbf that is more irritating than not wearing one lol
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>>44431983
Trip on, Kayla

How does it feel knowing that you were catastrophically wrong about literally everything?
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>trannies push le brain not developed until 25 meme to defend violent criminal niggers on the internet
>white republican niggers push le brain not developed until 25 meme to ban trannies
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>>44431946
It's about kids actually, the higher it goes the more protected kids are.

Do you take a stand against minors being groomed on social media every day and taking hormones behind their parents' backs? No, you don't. So you have no right to complain about this.
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>>44432156
>trannies push le brain not developed until 25 meme to defend violent criminal niggers on the internet
I have never done that though. If you commit a violent crime at any age above like 10 you should just be taken out and shot imo.
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>>44432055
You did it first tbf with transgender for everybody and in schools
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>>44432162
>Do you take a stand against minors being groomed on social media every day and taking hormones behind their parents' backs?
...yes? This might surprise you but most people are anti-grooming you fucking weirdo.
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>>44432013
>yes the government owns my body!
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>>44432162
>minors being groomed on social media
yeah
>taking hormones behind their parents' backs
no
t. took hormones behind my parents' backs and would probably be dead if i didn't
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>>44432200
You don't. The "waow based" meme became a thing because trannies were supporting someone sending drugs to minors.

The mainstream trans movement are all 100% in support of lowering the age as much as possible.
>>44432249
>no
Same vibe as Milo's saying having gay sex with an adult as a 14yo was a good thing for him. It doesn't really matter what you think, it's fucked up.
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>>44432013
>autonomy presupposes a world without social interaction pressure or actions taken to please others
It doesn't, retard. All of this still falls under autonomy, retard. It's almost like you have no real comprehension of the most basic concepts of political thought and so should shut the fuck up forever, retard.
Autonomy at the most simple level means: "you can make your own choices". If you are making a choice for the sake of pleasing other people, you are still making your own choices, retard. The only thing that truly removes autonomy are external coercions and threats of violence, like the State saying "no you can't do so and so and so otherwise we will jail you".
>uhhh but isn't wanting to do things for other people not autonomy because uhhh?
that you even think this is relevant tells me all I need to know about the level of mental ineptitude I'm dealing with here. I will not bother engaging with your retard babble further, instead I will point you to https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberty-positive-negative where you will behave like a good retatd and read sections 1 and 2 of the entry.
If you can't see the direct relevancy they have to this conversation you are too stupid to be trusted with internet access
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gratz, zoomers, this is the logical endpoint of your constant bullshitting about "LE BRAIN ISN'T DEVELOPED UNTIL 25. ACTUALLY UR BASICALLY A CHILD UNTIL 30!". Well this is what you get, it isn't just about sex, you will also have your autonomy stripped from you. You'll probably end up getting the voting age raised too.
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>>44432013
I didn't wear a mask or get the jab. Maybe you should grow a fucking spine and if you can't do that, why should anyone listen to your opinions?
>HURR, I'M TOO WEAK AND COWARDLY TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS SO ACKSHULLY BODILY AUTONOMY DOESN'T EXIST. DADDY GOVERNMENT, GOVERN ME MORE!

People like you are why slave societies evolved. You should be killed without mercy. You would all of our freedoms removed. I would purge you from existence without a second thought. Please kill yourself.
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>>44432308
It isn't zoomers saying that brudis, it's 40 year old roasties and their simps
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>>44432341
>implying zoomers aren't psychotic about age gap stuff

Bro, zoomers will literally ersatz Chris Hansen your ass if you're a 22 year old meeting a 19 year old. Don't pretend that they didn't cosign this bullshit. And now you even have gen alpha making Turkey Tom style exposure videos on each other because of months long age gaps.

The vast majority of zoomers believe in the "le 20-something child" meme. So I really can't have a lot of sympathy when they reap the consequences of such a retarded mindset.
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>>44432341
No, it's mostly zoomers crying about minor age gaps
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>>44432181
>transgender for everybody
i’ve heard trump say this a few times, what does it actually mean?
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>>44432428
everything's computer
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>>44432162
The minors are being groomed into the closet by 80% of adults
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>>44432127
i'm not kayla, also kayla's starting place from the timeline pics reminds me of Jesse from breaking bad, which makes me feel like maybe kayla is really MEF, like too small to be a man so became woman
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>>44431983
The supreme court has already OK'ed banning it for 19 year olds so there's no reason that they can't ban it for everyone
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>>44431971
Yeah Texas is uniquely fucked in that it's a melting pot of rednecks, tech nerds and autistic asians.
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>>44432162
>Do you take a stand against minors being groomed on social media every day and taking hormones behind their parents' backs?
TRANSLATION: offspring is a property of its parents
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>>44431967
The purpose of that campaign was to convince you not to kill yourself and by so doing deprive the state of your labor value. It wasn't meant to convey some sort of truth about the world. You just fell for it.
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>>44432013
People do indeed have some sort of obligation to comport themselves decently in society, I agree. I just think that hating on trans people is the indecency, rather than being trans
omegas like you belong in burqas
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>>44432293
>damn I'm so glad I got vaccinated as a kid
>NOOO THAT'S LITERALLY PEDOPHILIA
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>>44432031
you trying to enforce a lack of gender roles is enforcing a gender role
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>>44432162
>>44432546
>>44432825
THIS. Heteros are grooming kids to be hetero and to not understand consent. All of these chud cultures are rife with pedo rapists, and they have the audacity to point their guilt towards us. They just don’t want people to be educated of any alternative to their ways
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>>44433072
I believed it because I heard a couple of anecdotes about people's depression getting better (in unrelated contexts) so I thought hey it must be true for some people. you are right though they don't actually care about you lololol
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>>44433165
There's a reason sui is so aggressively demonized in practically every society. It has to be. Otherwise it's too enticing.
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>>44431946
aren't leftists the ones screeching about how the brain is still developing until you're 25? so what's the problem
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>>44433214
who are these leftists you speak of, the leftists I know believe in personal freedom
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>>44433214
there are already like 10 posts itt saying this, hows it feel to be an npc?
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>>44432031
My boyfriend is old school, he doesnt give a fuck what some stinky tankie on this message board says
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>>44431967
it gets better when you stop caring about what people who hate you think.
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>>44432046
>Performing surgery on healthy body parts

This argument can be used for anything. A virus is a living organism, who are we to kill it. Cancer? Sorry, looks like a symbiotic lifeform to me.

Your nose is prefectly breathable, you dont need surgery on a healthy body part! Measles is gods will!!
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>>44432031
>taking 4chan hornyposting as representative of the tranny ethos as a whole
go outside
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>>44431971
Texas is all 60iq boomers, blacks, Mexicans who are all Jewish golems. They are the least free state in the entire usa. They fought for freedom in the 90s and were don't tread on me and now they support pedophilia and say yes daddy Israel please take all my rights away I've been a bad bad boy ooooh

Bunch of slack jawed faggots if you ask me

All terrorists of the United States citizenry should be hung until dead.
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>>44431946
>26
just so happens you need your own health insurance and are ineligible to be on parents' plan
what a cohencidence
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>>44431946
This has been the clear plan since the under 19yo hrt ban EO order from Trump
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>>44433659
erm ackchually viruses aren't living
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>>44431946
aren't names and pronouns free speech?
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>>44432031
>My evidence, your honor, 4chan threads that people have made!
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STOP TOLERATING FAITH
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>>44432825
At any age!
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>>44432162
be honest, you hate the kids you're """protecting"""
>>44432293
>"giving that kid a medical procedure I've been programmed to dislike is LITERALLY the same as raping them you heckin creep"
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>>44433330
all they can do is regurgitate canned lines, there's no logic or reasoning taking place
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>>44431946
Americans voted for this
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>>44431946
I can’t take a right wing party seriously that believes having kids with nonwhites is ok but transitioning is not
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>>44437238
Right wingers have an overwhelming fetish for people from Asia so something had to give.
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>>44432308
>>44432390
trvkes here
But let's not forget that this is possible thanks to a millennial-pushed Obama-era regulation that effectively extended "youth" for the purposes of healthcare to age 26. The republicans are basically taking that and using it for their purposes. And why wouldn't they? Y'all approved of this nonsense for almost 20 years now (the brainworm with 26 year old adults being somewhat kids started around 2005-06).
There's still tie to turn around though and abandon the roastie-driven brainworm and get back to the spirit that pushes earlier maturization.
You won't though. Because arrested development is what you enjoy.
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>>44437260
their hapa kids will become trannies and faggots as divine punishment
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>>44433330
>t. Poster on a board that does nothing but regurgitate canned talking points about why men are women ackchually
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the shills on this board are so lazy they think anyone is going to fall for the idea that a bunch of republican boomers have the same consciousness as zoomers when it comes to ideas on sexual majority
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>>44433072
The funny part is that the average woman is a net negative on the economy and women kill themselves WAY less than men.
So you would actually improve the economy longterm by making sure men's mental health isnt fucked and they dont live in an open-air torture chamber buut... Cant have that in a gynocratic shithole can we now
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>>44431946
youre telling me throwing children under the bus didnt actually work? gasp!!!
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>>44431967

It is a lot better than it was back then. I detransitioned during the Obama years because people here told me i was AGP and was just a fetishist. There was no one for me to turn to, no therapists then seemed to know anything about what being transgender was.

People were still very transphobic back then, it just wasn't politicized.
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>>44439034
lol when did this happen
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I hope gen alpha decides they don't want 100% of their income going to israel and decides to revolt or something
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>>44439018
*sexual maturity

>>44439034
what do you get out of posting on this board
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>>44439093
NAYRT (obviously) but it's always been the case that women as a group are net tax recipients over their lifetimes while men are net tax payers. Functionally this is equivalent to women being a drag on the economy compared to a situation where they are not tax recipients on net, BUT the tripfag neglects to consider that women who don't do any labor at all are an even bigger drag on the economy since they're entirely unproductive.

Basically the ideal situation would be to slash any welfare that women benefit from more than men and/or expect women to do extensive unremunerated labor in the household (that would otherwise need to be paid for, not just the kind of scutwork that a bachelor doesn't bother with).
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>>44432006
>muh bodily autonomy
>from a bootlicker who got the vax and shilled it because the tv said anyone who didn’t get it was a deplorable
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>>44432013
They hated her for she presupposed the truth
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>>44439424
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>>44439416
I got the vax cause it works
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>>44431946
>intervening in any way to prevent natural progression of puberty.
>you WILL be raped by your own body and you are a CRIMINAL if you try to stop it.
part of me sometimes feel like these people aren't ensouled.
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>>44439416
because if you don't get the vax you spread the virus to OTHER PEOPLE'S bodies you fucking dunce. transition concerns only one's own body.
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>>44439800
don't you know? the everlasting love of God's plan is mandatory!
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>>44439809
>because if you don't get the vax you spread the virus to OTHER PEOPLE'S bodies
this is a lie
cough19 "vaccine" demonstrably did not do any of that. it did cause myocarditis though.
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>>44439371
I meant when did cismoid chud out i dont remember this
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>>44439833
my grandfather died of covid. fuck you.
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>>44431946
>only up to 26
Be glad they don't believe in second puberty
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trannies' maturity is stunted by their traumatic natural puberty so logically only people who have transitioned should be allowed to transition
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>>44432019
if it wasnt an n95 mask or similar then by the actual research on the matter you werent preventing the spread of infection.
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>>44433896
> They fought for freedom in the 90s
texas has never fought for freedom. texas exists because it wants slaves and mexico said no.
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>>44439922
> if it wasnt an n95 mask
i used that. how do you respond?
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>>44439969
>i used that. how do you respond?
congrats, you were one of the few people that actually gave a fuck.
t. also procured an n95 mask in early covid
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>>44439844
your grandfather died because he was old and frail
old farts die all the time from various coughs.
abolishing the freedom of association, movement and bodily autonomy of all society (but especially young people) so that old farts live till 85 instead of 83 and 10 months is evil.
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>>44439998
i wore n95 mask for 5 years straight
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>>44439833
>demonstrably
okay, please demonstrate that.
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>>44440135
>for 5 years straight
did you work in a hospital or another high risk environment?
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>>44431946
first they go up to 19, just above 18 to set the precedent that this can be for legal adults. then they go up to 26, just above 25 to set the precedent that this can be for people with 'fully developed' brains. we're frogs in a pot.
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>>44440022
> abolishing the freedom of association,
you are retarded.
https://iris.who.int/server/api/core/bitstreams/03c628f0-e11f-4bf5-8383-bbb451ef56d2/content

read soviet union response to influenza outbreak of 1957 and how its the model of outbreaks for pandemics and say that again
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>>44440022
read disciple and punish by foucault
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>>44440147
i worked at a pharmacy full of old people
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>>44440179
yeah that makes sense then, hardly an unjustifiable decision to wear one of those.
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>>44440173
I am a civilized person living in a civilized capitalist country.
You make a very good case for the abolition of WHO. Or at least the exiting from it. Communist countries can continue to do whatever the fuck and (You) can move there if you want.
>>44440177
>foucault in 2026
kys
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>>44440188
yet alot of co-workers didn’t. often right wing ones who framed it as a cultural war signifier.
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>>44440135
good goy.
are you still up to date with the myocarditis inducing experimental gene therapy clotshot, nona? If not, you are killing >>44439844's grandfather. Not to mention breaking the foucaltian ideals of the soviet union or whatever cope is fashionable ITT to avoid admitting you were all wrong
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>>44440198
> I am a civilized person living in a civilized capitalist country
you literally advocated for radically lowering life expectancy in the name of capitalist profits. you are not civilized. the ones who are civilized are the ones fighting pandemic, not for the interests of a few capitalists.
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>>44440200
>yet alot of co-workers didn’t. often right wing ones who framed it as a cultural war signifier.
yeah, most right wingers are mentally retarded herd creatures. personally i would opt to not wear a mask myself but thats largely because i consider killing old people to be both a socially beneficial act and frankly in our present situation a heroic one.
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>>44440210
HIPAA
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>>44440215
removing boomers is objectively a good thing.
and civilized, yes.
communism is what's uncivilized. removing communists is also very VERY civilized.
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>>44439416
>this unrelated authoritarian overreach justifies more authoritarian overreach because it just does okay
>>44439809
forcing someone to undergo medical treatment for the potential benefit of someone else is unethical
>>44439833
coronavirus vaccines did their job at increasing immunity / reducing transmission and were generally safe (though not getting one was also pretty safe unless you were old/sickly)
>>44439922
pretending like shitty masks can filter viruses out of the air like a hazmat suit is delusional
pretending that stopping sick people from spitting and sneezing everywhere doesn't prevent the spread of infection is equally so
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>>44440334
>this unrelated authoritarian overreach justifies more authoritarian overreach because it just does okay
NTA but it's actually not unrelated at all.
And sure, that anon is likely in bad faith but that's exactly how most people think. Tit for tat. You forced me on something? Or tried to? Now it's my turn and I will do it.
"Muh principles" is for naive people, autists and other weirdos. Power doesn't work that way.
And since nobody wanted to listen during covid (and, even worse, ITT the covid authoritarians continue to double down on their stupidity), there is actually no rational reason for anyone to give a damn when the authoritarian overreach now strikes a tiny minority that did largely support covid authoritarianism.
it sucks, but it's how reality works.
Also, what this anon >>44437269 says is correct as well. Lots of lefties and trannies supported the legal extension of childhood to 26 because they thought they're getting gibs. Well, guess what? with gibs comes a loss of personal autonomy as well. that's how it always works with government.
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>>44440334
>pretending that stopping sick people from spitting and sneezing everywhere doesn't prevent the spread of infection is equally so
youve a fair point, it genuinely didnt occur to me because thats behaviour i consider fucking disgusting and only done by subhuman filth.
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>>44431946
Lol the way they specifically set it for the age that usually ends all of your growth from testosterone. I came out to myself at 23, repped for 5 years, did a weird social transitioning where I was basically judt a gender fuck and then finally started hrt on my 30th birthday. I regret not starting at 23 so fucking bad, I could have been a super baddie even starting at 23 but now im just the cool auntie because of how much T aged me from 23-30 :(

ppl are gonna kill themselves over this if it passes, they know what they are doing
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>>44440334
>forcing someone to undergo medical treatment for the potential benefit of someone else is unethical
this framing is a complete lie: covid vaccines do not provide any unique benefit to the people around you, but rather they prevent you from actively *causing harm* to the people around you. you do not have the right to infringe on the bodily autonomy of others by infecting them with a harmful viral agent. if you don't want the vaccine, move out into the woods away from the rest of society, but the rest of us don't want to get sick because you aren't willing to take the preventative steps you should.
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>>44440271
You are probably too stupid to recognize the distinction, or what either is at its heart.

I used to be like you. I used to be you.
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>>44431946
>HE WAS 25 YEARS OLD YOU SICKFUCK
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>>44440397
>You forced me on something? Or tried to?
except trump was the one that initially advanced the covid policy in the first place RETARDS. i want to kill every america alive! total goy death!
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>>44440464
people like you should be rounded up and shot.
you're an active danger to the liberty of everyone
>you do not have the right to infringe on the bodily autonomy of others by infecting them with a harmful viral agent
purposefully bad faith and genuinely evil framing
people like you should never be allowed to hold power ever again. you people are a sickness in the human race.
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>>44440479
>except trump was the one that initially advanced the covid policy
did trump attempt to make mandatory vaccination? no, of course not. and you know it.
Here's Kamala Harris on the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAjCeMuXR0
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>>44440480
>>44440489
desu only entitled retards from america are capable of being this mad about a quick jab, you do realize germs can kill you?
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>>44440495
>just take the myocarditis shot goy, it's no big deal
>stop being a stupid american and ask questions about safety or Constitutionality or bodily autonomy
you are goycattle
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Desu, I just want trans people to suffer at this point.
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>>44440495
>quick jab
lethal injection is also a quick jab
are you europoors so retarded or brainwashed that you can't fathom even the basics of liberty?
no wonder you keep on cooking new totalitarianism every few decades. what a demented take.
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>>44440496
>>44440504
they have been forcing people to get vaccines since the 1950's because diseases are bad, except back then people were a little tougher cuz of the war they had just survived so they wouldn't bitch about a little needle
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>>44440480
>people like you should be rounded up and shot.
i get that a lot from people like you. i think it's an interesting gleam into your psychology, it seems like it pokes at some very fundamental convictions that you are very scared to call into question.
>purposefully bad faith and genuinely evil framing
it's an objective fact. by not taking the vaccine your body becomes an incubator for a viral agent that has the capacity to harm everyone around you. and when we have the technology to prevent that, you do not get to fuck everyone else over because of whatever whacked out conspiracy theory you've convinced yourself of.
like, we have the technology to ensure we produce food that is free of disease. and guess what? if you want to sell food that goes into other people's bodies, you have to utilize that technology and ensure your food is free of disease.
in the same way, your body can emit a viral agent that enters other people's bodies and gives them a disease. and when we have the technology to ensure it doesn't do that, it makes sense to make that compulsory for the well-being of society.
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>>44440489
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dAjCeMuXR0
let me make it very simple for your tiny goy cattle mind to understand. trump was pushing for vaccinations and at the time all of the libs were downplaying covid while conservatives were freaking out. then when biden just continues the same policy, now the conservatives were downplaying things and libs were freaking out

think about this for a second or actually think about this for a minute adjusting for your processing speed

they were taking the same stance towards vaccine, and then quite magically red and blue team completely flipped on this "issue". any none retarded outside observer can see it is just another team sports game, but this time you guys flipped on your stance this time. amongst the american ruling class, the covid agenda was undeniably a bipartisan issue, but the subhuman vermin of america have goldfish memory and so they will completely reprogram their reality according to the team sports game. and now, because i was born in an english speaking country, i have to be subjected to you smug gullible retards talking about this IRRELEVANT issue that has NOTHING to do with trans people
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>>44440397
The people forcing them to do something were overwhelmingly not trannies though. Retards using "trannies" as a blanket insult for all left wing people doesn't mean that society was ever actually controlled by trannies.
You're probably correct that having principles does make me a weirdo who could never obtain political power.
>>44440441
I was including tiny spittle particles that most sick people will inevitably secrete unknowingly, but yeah there are also plenty of normoids who will just let it fly in public without seeming to care
>>44440464
not getting vaccinated does not actively cause harm to people around you
>move out into the woods away from the rest of society
I can't afford that yet but I am saving up
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>>44440540
why are trans people even a political issue, i just want to exist bro
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>>44440510
We as a society have simply forgotten the horrors of the diseases of the 20th century. Unfortunately people are bound to forget and eventually invite such horrors back in, it's just something we're gonna have to learn the hard way.
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>>44440543
>I was including tiny spittle particles that most sick people will inevitably secrete unknowingly
most people arent paranoid about that stuff when sick?
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>>44440550
because people don't want to have to pretend gay people are the opposite sex
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>>44440574
yeah well i diden't want to go to work today so fucking blow me
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>>44440581
I don't want to have sex with self hating gay people. Stop being homophobic and detransition.
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>>44440589
im already more of a man than you will ever be, why would i?
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>>44440529
>it's an objective fact
no, it's not.
totalitarians always love to claim their dopey opinions are objective facts. it's not even a new thing. the soviet union (from which you admitted you take your inspiration from) also claimed that socialism was a science and an objective fact and would institutionalize those who disagreed. it's the totalitarian way.
>i think it's an interesting gleam into your psychology, it seems like it pokes at some very fundamental convictions that you are very scared to call into question
I genuinely laughed. Thank you for that.
>comparing food safety to vaccines
nigga american food is the most unhealthy in the world (that's why american women are heavier than french men) but also the most regulated.
you make the case not to trust your ideas. the objective outcome is trash.
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>>44440561
Nope
Have you ever been around one of those people who you have to keep some distance from because they spit while talking? They don't even realize or care
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>>44440592
yeah im pretty feminine and proud of it
sometimes i get accused of being a woman for my posting and its pretty affirming
:)
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>>44440599
why do you dumb niggers care so much about the stupid jab but your ok with states fucking with my own way to take the edge off, you know 26 is old enough to have joined and completed time in the military with several years to spare right?
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>>44440543
>The people forcing them to do something were overwhelmingly not trannies though
Correct. That's why I said "lefties and trannies'
>Retards using "trannies" as a blanket insult for all left wing people
That will stop happening the moment trannies won't be overwhelmingly not just left of center, but straight up gigacommies on the furthest fringes of the far-Left.
>You're probably correct that having principles does make me a weirdo who could never obtain political power
It's not the principles necessarily, but the naivete.
If you don't use power, the others will. The Right didn't understand that since Reagan.
That's why I like this second Trump administration. Because it at least tries to do to the Left what they've been doing to everyone else for 30 years.
The only problem is that it's not enough. Faucci should've been skinned alive in the public square by now. And most covidians should've already been serving 5 consecutive life sentences or sitting on a death row awaiting their beloved final quick jab.
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>>44440605
its just a window into psychology and systems
my family acted like it was some huge big deal and made me get the first few vaxxes right when they came out and threatened to not let me see my own family if i didn't and my sister was obnoxious about us masking around her and now they forgot covid ever existed, don't ask what vaccines I have, oh right it kinda killed our relationship anyways
my doctor's office stopped even offering a covid vaccine and never explained why
they were just like um we don't have it yet, when I went to get my flu shot, then they never mentioned it again

at one point you had to carry a paper card and show it to a hostess to dine in in a restaurant, and then wear a mask to walk to your table, then take it off once seated, it was all a game
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>>44440621
yeah thats fucking stupid, so what? Worse things have happened to people
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>>44440628
what gets me is you said that like anybody here is going to fucking feel bad for you for going through that

you do realize what board you are on?
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>>44440628
my family is more loyal to dictums of the state than the feelings of their own family
they don't love me, they love their own status and reputation as adhering to the rules
it was never about health or safety
just months before "official" covid my sister had me go hiking with her kids one of whom was sick (she didn't tell me until I got to her house and I otherwise barely see them), so I got horrible OG covid from her kid and she didn't care about masks or exposure then
it's all a game to them
they don't care about your feelings they just want to look cool
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>>44440605
actually, i'm in favor of otc hrt from age 16. no questions asked.
but since you insist that it was right and moral to try to force me to take a dangerous clotshot that would have definitely given me myocarditis (i was a young man in 2021), now i'm questioning whether i should continue to give a damn about the freedoms of people who already proved they hate me.
so, right back at you now. why do you dumb niggers care so much about those whoremones but you're ok with sates fucking with my own livelihood for years because i refused a dangerous product? you know that 22 year old men were at high risk of heart issues from the jab, right?
two can play this game, nona.
you refuse to give a shit about other people's bodily autonomy. well, payback is a bitch. I will write to my rep and suggest an even bigger age. There HAS to be consequences for you personally and the ones you love/care about for the insane ideas that you supported and didn't give a shit whose lives were affected. You thought of me as acceptable collateral. Just a moid who needs to take extreme risks to save your grandpa. Well, now it's my turn. Trannies should sacrifice their lives for the betterment of society <3
at the next iteration I hope you'll become smarter and realize that there are 2nd and 3rd order consequences for your ideas and your votes.
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>>44440628
right back at you. It's stupid to have 26 as the minimum age for hrt, but so what? worse things have happened to people.
/shrug
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>>44440600
fortunately not in recent years, but yeah.
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>>44431946
26 years olds are basically children at this point. People are living with their parents until their 30s these days. It makes sense for these people without real world experience to not be able to do whatever they want.
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>>44431987
posting this again. if this policy gets successfully pushed, it might be necessary to organize to build supply lines, facilitate migrations, etc. i think it would be best to at least set up mutual aid networks earlier than later
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/aspcte.html

>>44440550
we are heading for a guaranteed recession with the iran war and they also need an excuse to further advance palantir's surveillance technology. ive been posting less because it felt like the dsa could maybe win and turn things around, but it seems as though there is still advancing contradictions within individual states like texas. i think everything could hinge on abdul el-sayed. if he loses, the momentum of the dsa could get snipped in the bud. establishment dems would take back control and double down on their moves to try and capitulate to conservatives. at that point, they would not make any real push to protect trans rights in red states
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>>44440641
>>44440643
>>44440649
im more arguing that you are just a little fag, i have friends who never got it and i never fucking cared i just think you are all a bunch of fucking pussy fags who never went through enough and take out your resulting lack of masculinity on people like me
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>>44440643
>the freedoms of people who already proved they hate me
no one cares about your goychip installed personal grievances retard if you are not trans fuck off
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>>44440668
basically im saying i dont actually disagree with you at all, i just hate you all as people

i hate you because you are weak, but there are just barely enough people who believe the shit you believe for you to follow them and feel like you are something
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>>44440668
>i just think you are all a bunch of fucking pussy fags
I am a fag. But I'm also a poorer fag as a result of your ideas. i missed job opportunities because of policies you personally supported and still do support.
so now I want revenge. if you end up not getting access to hrt because of this, I'll be slightly happier. I want you to suffer because I think it's good for society.
fewer trannies (or at least worse-off trannies) and some punishment for your policy ideas. win-win <3
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>>44440684
are you sure its not just because you are lazy and useless?
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>>44440675
>if you are not trans fuck off
/tttt/ is a meme. the board is still called /lgbt/. and you're a fag too, just one who is also into body moding.
I support body moding, but only for adults whose brains are fully developed, so 25+
<3
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>>44440684
>>44440696
your acting like i wasn't a chud too during covid, i actually do not give a flying fuck either way about the vaccines.

like I said, i just hate you as a person. Is that very hard to understand?
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>>44440696
this thread has nothing to do with lgbs so regardless you should stop posting
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>>44440704
oh, but you're wrong.
it has a lot to do with lgbs.
nearly all trans people are lgbs who do some body moding. that's fine, but they should be fully developed adults when doing it.
children under 25 deserve better protection from the State and society against risky practices <3
stop trooning the twinks and save the tomboys.
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>>44440726
old enough to die for israel old enough to troon
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>>44440726
thank you. you have convinced me that iran is completely right on lgb issues
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>>44440613
I don't think individuals ever deserve to be subjected to collective punishment due to an ascribed group tendency.
>not just left of center, but straight up gigacommies on the furthest fringes of the far-Left
That will stop happening once the rw establishment stops using trannies as the designated scapegoat for everything and pushing for tranny torture laws (such as the topic of this thread)
If someone is trying to hurt you the natural reaction is to oppose them, that's why so many end up going to the opposite extreme.
>That's why I like this second Trump administration. Because it at least tries to do to the Left what they've been doing to everyone else for 30 years
The left is culturally thriving right now just like the right did under Biden. All they do is take turns taking their grievances with each other out on the general population.
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>>44440734
Lol, not at all. Protecting America’s key defensive locations is essential and joining the military is an honor as well as a great career choice. No one is “dying for Israel” like you say, and that is nothing like surgically altering your body.
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>>44440198
>>foucault in 2026
what's wrong with that?
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>>44440754
hrt unfucked my mind enough to help build your war machine, but i guess thats not fucking good enough for you
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>>44432156
>>trannies push le brain not developed until 25 meme to defend violent criminal niggers on the internet
me when i lie
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>>44440761
you are not writing a reply to a human being but a culture war npc
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>>44431946
well it's a good thing my old ass just turned 27 haha
t. texas tranny
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>>44440752
>I don't think individuals ever deserve to be subjected to collective punishment due to an ascribed group tendency
I used to believe that too. But then leftoids decided that white men deserve collective punishment for stuff their ancestor MAY have done (my ancestors were german farmers in the 19th century lol).
then trannies decided to join the Fuck White Men party.
at some point, enough is enough. (You) personally may not have joined the Fuck White Men party. But everyone around you did. And in war, there's collateral damage.
>That will stop happening once the rw establishment stops using trannies as the designated scapegoat for everything and pushing for tranny torture laws (such as the topic of this thread)
cut the crap
trannies weren't even on the right's radar when troons went full gigacommie. this issue pre-dates this policy proposal, covid or even trump as a serious politician.
the infestation of lgbt spaces started in 2012, under obama. and was completed by 2015. again, trannies were not on the rw's radar at all at that moment. and even so, the neo-right started off sympathetically. but then trannies decided to double down on being in the Fuck White Men party.
well, a decade later, I've had enough. And everyone else has had enough.
>The left is culturally thriving right now just like the right did under Biden
yeah, that's why all of their cultural products are flopping or bankrupt. cute b8 tho.
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>>44440809
>then leftoids decided that white men deserve collective punishment for stuff their ancestor MAY have done
when leftoids did that I opposed them because it was the morally correct thing to do
>the infestation of lgbt spaces started in 2012, under obama. and was completed by 2015
I was literally ten years old in 2015, do I really deserve to suffer because a couple hons were canceling people on twitter back then?
>yeah, that's why all of their cultural products are flopping or bankrupt
most political gimmick products flop, I was talking about how socialist thought is becoming increasingly popular with the masses because of how the current establishment is pissing so many people off
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>>44440923
>I was literally ten years old in 2015, do I really deserve to suffer because a couple hons were canceling people on twitter back then?
My parents weren't born yet when Jim Crow laws were a thing. Yet leftoids (and virtually all trannies with them) believe to this day that I deserve to suffer because I am white and male.
Welcome to war, nona.
Also, it's not just about canceling people on twitter. Trannies decided that "die cis scum" is an acceptable battlecry for their activism. Very few pushed back.
What was that progressive slogan again? Silence is violence? Well, that's the standard I'm working with. Anyone who didn't actively oppose it is my enemy by default.
Oh, you were 10? Idgaf. You should've opposed it. I get condemned for things that happened before my parents were born. You're a big girl, you can take accountability for things that happened in your lifetime.
>inb4 but that's unfair and unethical
Too late.
> I was talking about how socialist thought is becoming increasingly popular with the masses because of how the current establishment is pissing so many people off
Now I believe you that you're young.
I'm old enough to remember how socialism will rule forever because Obama won. And then because occupy wallstreet. The Daily Kos was preaching how socialism is increasingly popular since 2005. Today it's less popular than then.
Social media is not real. You will learn this eventually. The internet is not real life. Neither is most of the media or polling.
Socialism is not "increasingly popular with the masses" at all. Most people don't follow politics upclose and genuinely don't give a shit. You'll learn this in a one or two more election cycles. When you're young you feel as if stuff matters. Eventually you realize that most of the things you think matter (or should matter) don't matter at all. True not just wrt politics, but life in general.
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>>44432031
>horny trannies making fetishy threads are the ones maintaining gender roles in society.
LMAO
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>>44440783
tbhon that wasn't a 'le epically owned' thing it was a neutral topic I found interesting and was reminded of by what anon said. the book is about how governments intruding on and controlling human activity is always liable to abuse of power and can be tyrannical, even if established for altruistic purposes like fighting a plague. that doesn't mean I agree with them but you can see the connection
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>>44440599
>no, it's not.
but... it literally is? please explain to me how you possibly think it isn't. it is an objective fact that by declining to get vaccinated you put yourself at elevated risk of carrying a harmful pathogen that can harm me. you do not have the right to put a harmful pathogen in my body because your chud ass was too good to get vaccinated.
>nigga american food is the most unhealthy in the world
didn't say unhealthy, the nutritional contents of food is easily accessible information that is wholly at the discretion of the consumer. and that's really a tangent anyway, it's an analogy, the fact that this country happens to be bad at regulating giant food corporations isn't really topical to the fact that food safety regulations are a good thing (and in turn vaccine mandates). it is on you to show that this analogy does not track rather than bitching and moaning about mildly related but ultimately irrelevant bs.
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>>44440397
>Lots of lefties and trannies supported the legal extension of childhood to 26
this is the first I've ever heard of the concept and it sounds dumb as fuck. you americans are so cooked, can't even drink until you're 21 lmao.
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>>44431967
in some ways it actually did get a tiny bit better under obama. bombing libya didn't affect your quality of life one iota, but gay marriage, pro lgbt policy (the most in American history at the time), total gay victory in main stream media, the first bits of trans acceptance ever in American history, recovering from a conservative created economic crash. worst thing was the surveillance issue which DID get canned at least temporarily.

it wasn't the worst. then a bunch of tards said shit like "when does it get better" voted for trump and no there are Texan death squads barging into bathrooms to do vagina inspections and it got like.. WAY WORSE. FOR EVERYONE. FOR THE WHOLE WORLD.

not that dems aren't 100% evil, but there was a brief time where America DID make a tiny bit of forward progress before it massively regressed
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>>44440441
>I have never ever ever ever ever coughed or sneezed
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>>44440664
ily
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>>44441299
youre supposed to use a tissue or at least cough into fabric you grot
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>>44441407
I do but I don't pretend nothing ever escapes around the edges despite my efforts
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>>44439800
Posts like this really show that developing the technology to meddle with the human endocrine system was a mistake.
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>>44441963
>t. not literally any cis woman
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>>44441963
>believes the will of unthinking cells carrying out biological processes is more important than the will of the human being who will be subjected to them
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>>44439710
>works
LOL
>>44439809
>>44440334
>violating bodily autonomy is okay IF (precondition)
Like pottery. Bootlicking Chud hypocrites.
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>>44444163
>>violating bodily autonomy is okay IF (precondition)
i want the minimum infringement on rights. you infringing on my right not to have a harmful pathogen in my body is a greater infringement than me infringing on your right not to have a helpful vaccine in your body, it's really that simple.
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>>44431946
26 year olds are old enough to die for israel but arent old enough to transition
fuck texas
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>>44444605
>fuck texas
Texas GOP is one of the most vile evil parties in existence.
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>>44443947
The concept of “will” is pretty outdated and antiscientific. There’s nothing to suggest there is such a thing. Humans are not really any more sentient than trees, so allowing actions that harm the greater social good is antisocial and dangerous.
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>>44437190
You've lost the plot and why even the gays turned you in.
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>>44446717
>The concept of “will” is pretty outdated and antiscientific.
?
>Humans are not really any more sentient than trees
????
are you not having a conscious experience right now? i'm having a conscious experience right now.
>so allowing actions that harm the greater social good is antisocial and dangerous.
well that's a pretty tough framework to have any definitive stances in given that 'the greater social good' is incredibly vague, arbitrary, and subjective? i think it would serve the greater social good for you to have your internet access revoked for the rest of your life, but at the same time i actually have consistent principles, that being a belief in human rights, in which you have as much of a right to information and communication as i do and so i am not to encroach on that.
in the same way, you are not to encroach on my rights over my body, but you are a subhuman fascist who is okay with any measure that preserves your backwards social hierarchy so that's not a concern to you. you do not approach questions of ethics from an ethics perspective, but instead dream up your personal ideal world and will happily stomp on every other human on the planet for the rest of time in order to force it into existence. you are not interested in the advancement of your species, but only the advancement of your personal demented ideology. selfish, selfish, selfish pig.
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>>44444163
where did I say or imply that?
>>44446789
I have not, and most gay people are not anti-trans



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