Hey, back in Feb i made a post reaching out if anyone were interested with a live-in housekeeper tranny, given my previous struggles with the economy, job market, and housing stability, on top of my clearly neurodivergent tendencies; and i’m here to share an update on that.Technically had a handful of responses from interested parties over several posts, (including the creepy maid posting cis guy), but was able to connect with one that had zero obligations for sexual favors, and a sensible offer in helping out around the house + errands.Life was bumpy but we became really close friends and share a lot of laughs together and enjoy hanging out a lot. All while neither of us are abused.I wanted to offer advice to other trannies attempting this (honestly dangerous and wild request) and what precautions to take such as>after connecting through text, have a phone call to discuss further>meet in person in a public place to sus out abusive behavior>have a backup party or friend to fall back on in the event you need to escape their placeIf both people are consenting and agree to the conditions then everything is fine, but if either of you feel abused, you should end it and find a safe place to retreat to.Another poster shared a horror story of being a free use sex maid in exchange for housing and how much they regretted going into that situation, so i’m forever thankful to be in a position where that isn’t my case, and I get to start college soon.
>>44433064i wish he would tell me i did great at playtime, good job...
Why does God grant these boons to everyone except me?
>>44433064>>44433064giwtwm
>>44433064Is the person you're living with another tranny or a cissoid?
>>44433195They’re a cis male. I tried making fun of him with force femme memes but he was adamantly against those notions, so 99% cis male.
>>44433110need a mommy bf lowk
>>44433213>You're living with a cis moid>That you met here>On the board full of chasers and reppers>And he's not making you fuck him>Or stealing your E >Or skin walking you>Or stealing your underwear to wear and/or fap to>Just "errands" (intentionally vague)I feel like we're not getting the whole story or this is a gigalarp by a chaser
>>44433064>creepy maid posting guyhey i was desperate enough to reply back to that guy but i guess im too much of ugly bitch even for creeps because he ghosted me
>>44433325>living with cismoidi’ve lived with cisfoids, cismoids, trannies, ex-friends, and family. It really doesn’t make a difference outside of “is this person abusive or not?”>met heremy struggles connecting with neurotypical people have reinforced the reality that I genuinely bond better with other shut ins such as those from here>on the board full of chasers & reppersHe technically fits the definition of a chaser, but has had zero issue with dating cissoids or trannies in the past and present.>doesn’t make you fuck himbare minimum requirement before I went through with this, and he succeeded that>or stealing Ehe’s every bit the type of cismoid that is disgusted of E and loves testosterone>Or skin walking youHe’s unironically satisfied with his career, personal life, and general life and doesn’t express a need even for this (on top of being a cissoid)>or stealing your underwear to fap toalthough he doesn’t steal my clothes (i do the laundry), I wouldn’t be disturbed if he’s identical to other cis males who jerk it to their feminine friends. It’s not like he’s being a creep around, in front of me, or disturbing my stuff. What he does alone is his business.>errandsHe has a disability so I’m able to contribute where he’s physically unable to.All that aside, he’s also been emotionally supportive when i’ve had a couple tranny break downs (self-esteem issues) and never took advantage of me still. And i’ve helped support him when he had mild family drama. He’s been a rare genuine friend in my life who i’ve come to cherish more each day. As well being one of the few mentally stable people i’ve ever known. (aside from being a /tttt/ browser).
>>44433425You are honestly avoiding a rather extremely harmful situation to begin with. Unless you seriously fit the free use lifestyle (and I mean the 24/7 kind), you would’ve hated every moment waking up there. Life might suck right now but it can be a lot fucking worse for you.
>>44433450I’m not sure if i’m the same poster if you’re referring to a recent thread as I’ve been off /tttt/ for several months. And I know my op image gets reposted before.
>>44433427Erm.... does this guy need a second tranny friend perhaps?
>>44433528We’ve joked when furniture shopping about getting the polycule couch and I like to tease him about housing more trannies so I can subject them to daily board games and nerd conversations.I think his requirement is 25+ though. If you want to post a snippet about yourself I wouldn’t mind passing it on to him when he’s free. Though he might be currently in talks with one at the moment.
>>44433064>start collegewhat will you study?
>>44433064Happy for you nona. I have received offers from men about living together so I have some questions for you if you could answer. How do you sus out bad people? I often find myself too trusting and miss the signs.Did he live nearby or did you have to move some distance away? I think I'd be nervous even meeting once if I had to travel to another state or something.How long was it from initial contact to moving in? Do you have a job and do the housework in the side or is it a full time thing? If so, how do you make money for yourself? I would be afraid of not having financial freedom .
>>44433064this is actually adorable, happy that you and him found something mutually beneficial
>>44433578>25+It's over
>>44433591>what will you studycomputer science / engineering>>44433612>how do you sus out peopleAbusive people are terrible at hiding their abusive tendencies. You’ll most likely pick up on their behavior as you spend a few days in person (at public spaces like a mall or restaurant) and see how they act. Can also point blank ask them what typically upsets them in life and they’ll probably reveal themselves there. Encountering a master manipulator (from here if all places) is just so extremely unlikely, they’re bound to give a tell eventually. And even after moving in together, don’t take it as a “you’re stuck here”, you should always be able to safely leave. Have some funds set aside for a plane ticket if necessary.>did he live nearby?he was a few hours away and he initiated coming out to see me in the city to sus each other out. I wouldn’t mind moving states so long as the vibe is right.>How long was it from initial contact to move in?About 3-4 months? We planned for about a year a part, but some plans escalated in a good way and we were on board to move forward. Preferably, you wait a year knowing the person first.>Do you have a job while doing housework or money in the side?I just do housework and study, and he covers costs of living as well as reimburses me for the food we eat. I have savings just in case so i never feel like i’m trapped here. And if I wanted to, I could just pick up part time again.>>44433624Thank you, we are as well :D>>44433633>25+ it’s overIt’s mainly for the maturity aspect. But it’s not like you won’t eventually be 25+ in the future. And personally, most men i’ve spoken to prefer younger (but that’s probably a red flag on its own until investigates further).
>>44433702Shouldn't have even asked, all trannies study CS
>>44433702>I just do housework and study, and he covers costs of living as well as reimburses me for the food we eat. I have savings just in case so i never feel like i’m trapped here. And if I wanted to, I could just pick up part time again.As a bitter sneedhon, I would literally let a man own me to have what you have. Holy shit some girls get all the fuckin luck.
>>44433794Was previously studying medical and did pharmacy stuff, but I realize it’s not for me and i like computers. Yeah i’m a trope.
>>44433064very strange question, how much would you say you pass? just out of curiosity
>>44433851>how much do you passIm a luckshit and should probably not elaborate further.
>>44433851She's got a simp letting her live rent free. We both know the answer to that without even asking. Poor dude probably thinks if he does enough he'll get to hit. All trannies are demons
>>44433881If he's old enough, he could probably be having her as a child replacement like old ladies get cats.
>>44433881>poor dude probably thinks if he does enough he’ll get to hit.If he didn’t have a successful dating life i’d maybe believe this but he’s dated other cissoids to trannies. Though I don’t blame you if the simp narrative goes down easier for you.
>>44433921the Chaser Allfather and his tranny children lmao
>chasers can do all this for a troon and they won't even offer a pity handjob or groping session or girl pickle lickchaserbros, remember that all these troons are soulless.
OP you say he hasnt made you have sex with him, but have you initiated sex with him?
>>44434019>>44434036Maybe it’s because i’m older but life doesn’t need to revolve around sex for fulfillment and joy. But if that’s what you want your life to revolve around then more power to you in a consenting manner.
>>44433064Question for you: How long do you expect this to last? From your posts it seems like you're platonic with this guy so I assume he's not keeping you up forever.
>>44434088>>44434036Avoided The Question Award. This answers a lot of questions I had. Makes sense now
>>44433467>24/7/365I never asked for thison lockdown like a penitentiary~~~
>>44433064>live-in housekeeperthat's called slavery
>>44434124>how long do you expect this to last?I typically expect myself to ruin it somehow given my ptsd and recurring traumas, so I’m not sure. Whenever I try to think of the future it doesn’t pan out the way I imagine so I more just focus on the here and now as advised by my therapists.>>44434131>avoided the questionmy commentary on both posts was to answer for itself but if you need it spelled out: no I did not initiate on him nor he to myself.
>>44433064I'm going to pretend that this other thread thread>>44430515is from the pov of the guy you live with because it makes me laugh
>>44434229>pov from the other guythis is actually pretty funny lol. I’ll show him it later today
>>44433427>He has a disability Disabled chaser x Service dog trans puppygirlCute
>>44434300>service puppy girl dogI’m probably not put together, but i’m not at the level of puppygirls and their type of degeneracy. Maybe girl failure or even maid. And I want to work on being more independent, rather than the opposite.
>>44434300Need a drawfag to make this>>44434355Rude, nothing wrong with being a puppy girl. Service dog girl would be the mature version with a career
>he's a 4chud chaserHappy that things are going well for you so far but I have to drop the truth nuke. No chaser is a good person, no matter how well they put that disguise on. The other shoe will drop eventually. You'll catch him doing something or he'll push a little too hard and you'll break out of the illusion he's casting. I hope you realize this before it's too late.
>>44434533>rudeMy apologies, I didn’t intend it to be crass but an observation from personally interacting with such people. Anecdotally, they’ve been sex-crazed, zero desire for independence, and addicted to Dom/sub lifestyles to unhealthy extremes. It’s not every single one but nearly every one i’ve met IRL has fit this descriptor besides one who at least had a career on top of being a puppy girl. =/
>>44434607>no chaser is a good personi could honestly argue this about trannies given how abusive they’ve also been.He had ample opportunities to take advantage of me and yet doesn’t. He’s been supportive of me during some really bad lows. And continues to respect my boundaries. Maybe some future circumstances coalesces and he somehow does fit your stereotyped culprit, in which case that’s what backup plans are for. But for now? We can all enjoy it while it lasts. And maybe it lasts just a bit longer than you’d imagine. But none of us are oracles.
>>44434607lol circe did sound like your typical transbian psyopper
You're a stronger woman than I am. I 100% would have spilled my spaghetti if a man ever treated me this nice with no expectations for sex. GIWTWM WHY DO I ONLY ATTRACT CREEPS
>>44434175Trannies love being slaves for some reason. Maybe we repeal the 13th amendment but just for trannies. Make life better for them I bet
>>44433578Just curious but what's the age gap between you and him? I honestly thought your typical tranny collector would be into younger girls
>>44434806I can promise you i’ve spilled plenty of my spaghetti early on with him. Keep filtering the creeps and hopefully they’ll mature too.>>44434825>trannies love being slavesTrannies, like a good portion of cisfoids, are into Dom/sub play. This doesn’t translate to 24/7 slavery you psychopath.>>44434846>Whats the age gapThree years (i’m older). He just doesn’t vibe with zoomer or children-esque behavior. I don’t think he was into the idea of “tranny collecting” and it’s mostly me half-memeing and joking about it a lot that he’s maybe humoring it for more company in the house.
>>44433427You must not be as mentally ill as me if a guy survived multiple tranny breakdowns and didn't want you gone. Just one usually sends friends and bfs packing. Or you're living with the reincarnation of Jesus
>>44433578Hi tranny here. Your blurb about having a fellow tranny to play board games with got me posting here desu. Im 27 bisexual 2 years HRT, NEET atm sadly, but im good at cooking and I like nerd shit, I have a collection of board games and video game consoles we could play.I don’t even need to be a part of your polycule or what ever you’re calling it but it sounds interesting and I wouldn’t mind making some friends. Lmk if you wanna chat c:
I thought it would be easy to find a rich chaser to live with in Seattle but they all expect me to find a job :(
>>44435118If you’d like to post your contact we can talk more, so far myself and my friend think you’d be fun to hangout. And no neither of us are interested in actual polycues lmao.I’ll probably take a bit to respond am starting gym, but i’ll message after clean up.
>>44434899>I'm olderBro snagged himself a trans mommy, so jealous. Do you cook for him too? Do you hold him after a long day? Fuck I am jealous of this man. How can I get like him?
>>44435192Discord: smoldering.embers
>>44435231I mean I think most trannies would be willing to be your maid and cook for you if you didnt demand sex, personally I would do this situation, its seems pretty ideal.If I guy was cool not needing to have sex with me I’d probably be more interested in giving it to him ngl
>>44435283Riches only come to those who don't desire them. T. The Chuddha
I would be afraid of getting raped so I would never do this but good on you
>>44433064Okay I have a question. You said things were bumpy and you became friends. How do you deal with bumpiness and friction I guess? I'm afraid that if/when I move in with a guy that I'll just ruin it after one bad day. What kind of stuff did you fight over and how did you get past it?
At this point in life I don't even want a romantic partner anymore, I just want someone like OP has to just care about me and occasionally give me basic physical touch. I've basically become prison bi, I would even accept another tranny at this point.-Foreveralone hon
>>44434806yeah the way she describes it, I would have swallowed this mans children. maybe I'm just a slut for kindness tho idk
DOES THIS MAN NEED A GF? A WIFE? A BANGMAID? DOES HE LIKE TALL CLOCKY TWINKHONSPLEASE SHARE
Let me guess, you both live in a major city? I will never find anyone in my hick town
Sounds like husband material. Extremely jelly
>OP goes to live with a moid>Finds the nicest man ever who treats her well>I go to live with a moid because my parents kick me out >Become pic relatedGod gives his greatest battles to his strongest hons.
>>44433064Convinced this whole thread is a chaser psyop to make poor vulnerable trannies think men will do this for them without raping them and discarding them.Tranny if you are reading this do not attempt this with any man. It will not end well
>>44435231>trans mommyit’s comedic because we had a handful of occasions where it can appear like that out in public.>do you cook and give him hugs?I do both yeah and where I can help out. And he also offers the same in return when i’m having bad days.>how can i get like himDon’t pressure sex. Could just offer to take another tranny in with zero expectations other than being supportive roommates to each other that help out. These two have the right idea: >44435283>44436498>>44436177>Fear of being abusedThe feeling is mutual, and honestly maybe have to be somewhat of a risk taker to attempt this. That’s why I heavily encourage having backup plans and safety nets just incase. Scope them out to make sure they’re not abusive.>>44436282>how do you deal with bumpiness and friction?It’s mostly due to him being extremely patient and emotionally mature, able to discern when to take time for himself and when to respect my boundary. I’m not violent due to my trauma but i can get upset, and for the most part he’s been accommodating for me since I’m able to help him out where he’s unable to. So i’d probably say not really fight, but just having conversations over things that bother us and offer solutions to how we can overcome them together, rather than trying to win an argument.>44436506>44436635I’m passing all these comments to him just in case he’s interested.>44436705>live in a major cityNo, but a few hours away. But i’m the type of person willing to move states if i’ve vetted the person first and have backups in place.>44436939I’m sincerely sorry nona, you deserve far better treatment than that and you’re worth so much more in life.>44436955>chaser psyopMy initial thoughts and why i hesitated making a follow up thread, but he and I talked about how there’s always going to be trannies attempting this such as the maidseeker guy’s thread and other abusive meet ups, so we thought best if i helped out.
>>44436955Any positive thread about how "nice" and "caring" chasers are are made by chasers themselves
Elephant in the room question, how does this guy support himself and a tranny in this economy? What's the living situation look like? You sleep in one of these? I have a decent job and I couldn't imagine being able to support someone else without them contributing.
>>44438041>how does his support thisHe works in finance. He’s not rich by any means but he makes enough to live comfortably and then some.
>>44438190We have different definitions of rich then. You live in an apartment, house, dog kennel? Flyover state or tranny haven? Don't need to get specific, I don't want a dox. Just trying to see what you're working with.
>>44438304>different definitions of richTrue, i have no reason to complain given how cushion the position is; i think i was speaking specific to economic thresholds.>apartment, house, dog kennel?the kennel memes are too much, but no, I live in a house and have my own room.>flyover or tranny haven state?Its a blue state (luckily)
>>44437470Normally I would agree but this seems a bit too high effort to be a chaser psyop. I just think this bitch got extremely lucky to find the nicest cis man in existence to take her in
>>44438304Mfw no tranny to cage and clicker train
>>44433427>I wouldn't be disturbed if he's identical to other cis males who jerk it to their feminine friends. He's a single moid? 100% jorked it to you before. But like you said, it's to be expected. It's only if he actively tells you that he does it does it get weird. I've had guys tell me that and I'm just like "what am I suppose to do with this info other than think you're gross and I should make sure I'm never left alone with you"
Things like this only happen to white trannies btw. Brown troons like me would never get this kind of kindness. Fuck my life
>>44438705>only happens to white tranniesI’m a minority tranny
>>44438778>Doesn't say brown White passing or Asian, call it. My point stands. If trannies are second class citizens, brown trannies are third class
>>44438578Why are moids like this? I have literally never masturbated to someone I personally know. Most of my masturbation fantasies involve fictional people in general, but still
>>44438905Evey moid thinks with his dick. Even the nicest guys have most likely fantasized about fucking their female friends, coworkers, and even family members. It's just how they are. This is why I only deal with moids as necessary. I don't like to be eye raped by them
>>44433064Sounds great nona, just check the bathrooms for cameras just in case this guy isn't as nice as you think. Chasoids can't help themselves sometimes
>>44439035Bitter transbian ogrehon hands destroyed their keyboard typing this
>>44433064This is very cute, nona. I hope you eventually fall in love with each other, get married, and grow old together. The world needs more healthy t4c relationships. If not, I hope you become lifelong friends who still love each other a lot.
>>44433064So how exactly does it work being a live-in housekeeper? Are you basically this guy's wife without the romance? Just cook and clean for him every day?
>>44433923I'm curious, what have his dating partners thought of you? If that's something you two have talked about. I'm passingly interested in the prospect of a live-in housekeeper, but I can't fathom that any girl I would date wouldn't think that's weird as fuck and consider it a red flag or otherwise demand that the housekeeper leave. The only dating partners that I can think of who would be okay with me having a tranny live-in housekeeper would maybe be the polycule types, which I'm really not down for. So idk. Basically, how does your guy avoid giving off "I'm building a tranny harem" vibes to others?
>>44439569I kind of wanted to ask the same thing. Like how does he tell a date "Yeah I have a tranny at home that does all my domestic chores and who I financially and emotionally support. No we're not a couple." If he wants to bring a date home, does he just ask you to leave or does he just tell you to wear headphones and turn your music up so you don't hear him
>>44439501>how does housekeeping work?I do housekeeping: cooking, ironing, laundry, etc.>>44439569>how does he avoid giving off the “tranny harem vibe”we meme about this but we’re basically just roommates and i pay rent through housekeeping. Neither of us are weird, so it’ll be as tame as if your date found out your roommates with the opposite gender.>>44439629>if he brings a date home what would you do?Probably just wear headphones or give them privacy for the day and go to a card shop. It’s not that complicated or different to roommate situations.
>>44439702I get what you're saying but I think any woman is going to feel like your situation is a bit different than just being roommates. It's the combo of the financial support and the cooking [which comes off as intimate] which I think gives weird vibes. Followup question, what happens if he gets a girl and she wants to move in? How does that work with you in the equation?
>>44433064Can you give me examples of abusive behavior I would see during a public meet? Is it something like being rude to a waitress or something else? Aso what kind of public meet did you do?
>>44439781This is why this situation is inherently unstable and will never work long term unless the guy is asexual or something
>>44439781>which i think gives weird vibesIm unsure what more to say; we sort’ve just view it as if we’re both “bros” given our proclivities are identical to how he interacts with his siblings.>what happens if he gets a girl and she wants to move in?Personally would be hyped to have another player for board game nights. On a slightly more serious note, i’ve suggested he not sacrifice the romantic relationship over me (partly due to my low self-esteem and wanting the best for him) but he’s reassured me multiple times how he views me akin to his family; so in that scenario the gf would probably have to be okay with me being around for the time being (though it encourages me more to work on stabilizing my independence so i’m not a wedge issue for his love life).>>44439836>what kind of public meet did you two doWe met up for sushi one day, and another meet up we hanged out at a local museum.>what signs to look forCheck how quick they are to anger: do they have a nature control over it or are they like children just taking it out in public?When it comes to sexual topics, are they respecting your boundaries or pushing them in thinly veiled commentary? Do you feel like you’re in some sort of negotiation situation instead of a hangout with a friend? That sort of signs to look for.Abusive behavior is when they’re giving off uncomfortable vibes however slight it may seem. (though not to be confused if they’re just neurodivergent).
>>44439955Thank you, I think that makes sense for things to look for. I have seen guys test the waters a bunch of times with sexual stuff but not be explicit and I don't know if I was being prudish or if they were trying for something
>>44437470>>44438411>>44436955honest question, what is the distinction between a chaser and someone who just finds transwomen attractive the same way they do cisgender women? Is someone who finds women with dicks hot but would still respect and treat transwomen as human beings with agency a chaser?My impression is everybody has a slightly different definition and in practice "chaser" just means "somebody who finds transwomen attractive but is over some nebulous bar that makes them predatory/abusive/toxic"
>>44440608i think in general its someone who specifically seeks out trans people over cis people, like either fetishistic, believing they are easier than cis people, believing they would be more desperate so take more abusive or smth else idrk all the reasons tbdesu, ig theres reppers that chase to live through their trans girlfriend idk how common that is in practice though
>>44440648I mean, I find transwomen more attractive then ciswomen, but that's got nothing to do with me thinking they'd be easier to get or would be more desperate, I just find dicks more attractive then pussies, most of the timeObviously, not all transwomen still have penises, bottom surgery is a thing, and for that reason I probably wouldn't date a transwomen if they had any potential desire to get bottom surgery, both because I honestly probably would find the surgically altered genitals to be a turnoff, but probably more importantly, because I wouldn't want the relationship to pressure her into not pursuing surgery if she really wanted itYou'll have to tell me if that makes me a chaser, but really this is all entirely hypothetical because I'm not interested in dating, too much other crap in my life to worry about>ig theres reppers that chase to live through their trans girlfriendI may or may not also fall into this, still figuring out my identity desu
>>44433064listen, im glad you and this guy are happy (if this is even real and not a larp), but i make good money and wound consider a tranny maid, but i 100% would expect sex. we could work out when and how many times, likes/dislikes, dos/donts; im not interested in raping anyone, but if im paying for EVERYTHING, i expect someone willing to touch me. i would hope for a blossoming friendship like you experienced, and i would want this hypothetical tranny maid to feel safe and accepted and not pressured to do anything they dont want to do, but sex has to be in the conversation. its unrealistic to not expect it, i have needs and so do you, theres nothing wrong with working out an agreement that includes a fuck or a bj once a week; just doing laundry and the dishes isnt enough to be worth it lmao
OP has got to be a transbian or something because how do you not lock a man like this down for life? My tranny ass would be proposing to him.
>>44440757>It's unrealistic to not expect itPlease don't project your inability to think of women as anything other than vehicles for your pleasure onto others. I think it is genuinely sweet that OP found someone who is a real friend to her and not expecting to get something from her body in return for this friendship. There's way too many people like you in the world and it's sad.
Not to be mean but you sound like a fucking leech from reading all your posts. I don't know how disabled this guy is, but it must not be that bad if he has an income that can support 2 people in a fucking blue state. Maybe his disability is being retarded because I simply cannot see how having a tranny just cook and vacuum is worth the money.
>>44441509I think the unsaid part is that this dude is probably unattractive so he gets sent to beta bucks duty while OP gets to chase for her chad. You would do the same as OP probably, most trannies are like this.
>>44441567>I simply cannot see how having a tranny just cook and vacuum is worth the money.could just be lonely, theres probably quite a few people who are quite well off but just dont have any social contact with anyone and have enough disposable income to house someone, most of them are probably old people though
>>44441611See, but then OP says he's well adjusted and has an active dating life so I really don't get it. And she's older than him too.
>>44433427>>44438578>>44438905Personally I wouldn't be mad if I knew a guy was fapping to me but was respectful about it and kept it to himself. It's honestly a bit of an ego boost knowing that he finds me hot enough to get him aroused but also nice enough to not be creepy about it. But that also just might stem from my low self esteem
>>44433064You said you had multiple people reach out. What made the guy you ended up moving in with different than the others? I mean the creepy maid guy speaks for itself but what about the other people scared you off? I feel like any time a dude here talks to a trans girl, he's probably competing with 5 other dudes so I want to know what he did right.
>>44439629>>44439569Honestly I would think dating life for OP would be harder. If I went on a date and heard this story, I most likely wouldn't believe that they were platonic. And if for some reason I did date her, Id probably feel very insecure that this guy can provide her things that I cant. Id probably constantly hav this dread of getting cucked by him and it would ruin my mental health.
>>44441690Okay but how would you know that a guy is fapping to you without him telling you?
>>44441877nta but if you exist around moids enough, you'll see the signs. the most obvious one being when they look at you and their eyes linger on your chest, waist, and butt just a second too long. not long enough to be considered gross, but just long enough to notice that they're downloading your body into the fap bank. the funny part is that they think we don't notice
>>44433064Honest to God question, how the fuck do I find a man like this? A genuine 4chan humored guy who doesn't want to rape me would be the ultimate jackpot. From my experience, the guys who won't rape me are way too normie for a 4tranny like me but the guys here share my humor but are also huge pervert rapists. It's a dilemma but apparently you found one that gives the best of both worlds. How can I be like you OP?
Love that for you, nona. Hope you stay happy with him. For all you horny dogs in this thread who cant fathom real friendship between genders, please go outside and touch some fucking grass.Normalize chasers x tranny friendships. And a little secret for some of you chasers, if you have a genuine tranny friend, other trannies (me included) will think better of you and will be more open to dating you. Just think about it with your head instead of your dick for once.
>>44441984>Trannies>Friendship OP wouldn't give this guy the time of day if he wasn't rich enough to take care of her, please.
Is he a bottom chaser? I don't think I could ever be friends with a bottom chaser, no matter how nice
>>44440757>if i’m paying for everything i expect sex as a compromiseMore power to you anon. I can’t really offer myself akin to free use maids, I just have too many personal hangups, trauma, mental illnesses, and weird specifications in order to even get in the mood let alone be available sexually on demand. My initial thread (before this) was mostly a half-joke request; if someone wanted a maid and basically a friend in exchange for the financial support, and I accept that not that many people are interested in that offer and want what you desire: sex. So I never expected it to pan out. I’m just happy it did.>>44441567>it probably isn’t worth it if it’s just basic housekeepingtechnically he has free rooms, i’m not materialistic, and it would be expensive if he didn’t have the help for things in life he can’t do but is a necessity for him. Thats most likely why it’s worth it for his specific situation.>>44441587>most trannies would chase for their chadI’ve had enough awful romantic relationships to not want to actively pursue any of them and sincerely want to be independent and actually be able to be happy being alone instead of reliving traumas, main priority.>>44441611>could be lonelyAgain, he has an active social life involving friends and romantic interests.>>44441707>what he did rightDoesn’t expect a romantic relationship or sex. Something most men probably don’t even want to consider when engaging with another feminine body unless it’s on the table.>44441760>I would feel insecure dating herCoincidentally, hasn’t been an issue for my past suitors whenever I’ve explained it in depth with them. I’d politely recommend working on overcoming those insecurities>44441947>how can i bag a guy like yours OP?trial and error. It’s probably just luck in the end (or combination of life circumstances).
>>44442041>op wouldn’t care about this guy if he wasn’t wealthyI actually bonded really well with his crass humor, nerdy interests, emotional maturity (bonus for helping support me through my breakdowns), banter, taste in games, intelligence in the areas I lack, and fun seeking behavior. He’s also just the extremely rare friend who is legitimately mentally stable, in a (anecdotally) world full of mentally unhinged, narcissistic, physically / mentally harmful people. I personally don’t know anyone else so incredibly mentally stable, secure in his strengths / weaknesses, and bountiful patience, that I seriously do not want to lose him as a friend (don’t care if he became broke). If I could be financially stable, i’d prefer it moving to less him financially supporting me and us just continuing to be awesome friends / roommates because it’s great, and stable type of relationship.>>44442139>bottom chaserhe’s been staunchly against me trading this about him so probably not + his past dating life involving him being the top (and at times his moid behavior).
>>44436498>I just want someone like OP has to just care about me and occasionally give me basic physical touchThat is basically what a romantic partner is
>>44442548Okay but it can also be platonic like OP is saying. I would be happy with that
>>44442502NTAHow do you both navigate the awkwardness and/or lack of sexual aspect though? Like, is there just zero mutual attraction? Is there never any sexual tension?I have cis mape friends and frankly I think part of the reason it works is because there isn't that mutual attraction, so I'm guessing your case is similar?Another question: what would you do if he ever admitted he was developing feelings?
>>44442564I just don't understand how you want this but not a romantic partner when having. a romantic partner basically this + happy romantic feelings?
>>44442576meant to say cis male friends
>>44442584nta but i think basic physical touch could mean a lot, like i think romantic partners usually do more than just "basic" physical touch
>>44442576>how do you both navigate the awkwardnesswe’re both awkward weirdos (though he’s able to be human in public than I am), so we have an implicit understanding of each other. Compartmentalization (+ seeing people) works; and for me I’m mostly asexual (probably due to traumas)>>44442584>how would you want this and not a romantic partner for more?that other poster probably meant that they wouldn’t mind landing a romantic partner for the bonus aspects, but is satiated if they could just have a hug from someone that cares, basically physical touch or cuddling that doesn’t need to be inherently romantic.
>>44442600>like i think romantic partners usually do more than just "basic" physical touchSure, but like, I don't ever touch my cis m friends.
>>44433578I'm also wondering a bit about this:) I'm 26, 7 years on HRT, a little bit on the internet, playing mostly CS2 and stuff when I'm on here, I like poetry and electronic music! I'd also just like some friends
>>44442648You never give them a hug?
theres nothing wrong with sex, a person expecting sex from someone living with them isn't strange. and its not some big deal, sex can be fun and casual, a lot of the tranny itt need to loosen the fuck up
>>44442667If you’re comfortable sharing your contact info we can discuss more :D>>44442796>there’s nothing wrong with sexwhen it’s consenting, sure. But if you’re the type to subtly push it after discussions about it have been shut down, you’re in the wrong. >expecting sex with someone you live with is not strangeit is strange. It’s not something expected between two men, or siblings, or a parent and a child, and not even in the typical roommate situation involving opposite genders. This is sincerely a gooner perspective at best, and a predatory one at worse.A lot of chasers need to not view half the population as objects of sex first instead of humans.
>>44442727No, but I let them hug me sometimes and I don't really like it.
>>44442888>but I don’t really like itCan understand if they maybe forgot to shower or are creepy, but if they’re good friends it should be exciting and happy for both parties to share a platonic hug. My cis male friends especially probably need hugs the most because of how society pressures them to be emotionless, and am happy to give them hugs as often and whenever they want one.
God I can just feel the chaser rage in this thread. They're lashing out because a normal human being has what they want and isn't "exploiting" it like they would and it makes them furious
>>44442619>asexualAh that probably makes things easier for sure. I honestly feel like I'm becoming more asexual myself as I get older. Kind of just want someone to cuddle with and watch TV without any expectations for more. I'm really tired of expectations
>>44442861>ERMMMMM YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX????? THSTS PREDATORY CHUDDYTired of woke infantilization of women. Let me guess, age of consent should be raised too? Get over it. Just because you don't like sex doesn't mean it's a bad thing
Bro if I lived with tranny looking all sexy every single day, I could not stop myself. One way or another, Im getting the gock. Fuck just thinking about it gets me heated
>>44443187Least rapey chaser on 4chan
>>44442861>youre a gooner if you like sexyou sound like an insufferable faggot. enjoying sex is one of life's few pleasures, you wanna be a cold shrew all your life thats up to you, but dont label everyone who enjoys making other people feel good as "predatory"
>>44443222nta but trading sex for housing is like one of THE most predatory things you can do. Sex should always be consensual with no pressure from outside forces. You really want to fuck someone who has to choose between sex and living on the street. Just sounds miserable
>>44443222She's living the high life with her rich chaser friend and you're seething about it here. You seem like the only insufferable faggot to me
>>44433064I have an question about being a housekeeper. Wha lt do you do once all the chores are done? I assume you don't have to clean the house every day and you're not in college yet. How do you spend your time?
>>44443116Wanting sex and expecting sex are two different things. Consent is consent. Power imbalances and taking advantage of someone in a living situation is not consensual, it’s predatory. I’m not immune to enjoying sex, it’s just something I don’t want pressured or “expected” from me as that’s abusive and exploitative. Your inability to recognize that is the prime example i needed for all the other trannies to see what predatory chaser behavior looks like and to steer clear from. So thank you for playing your part.>>44443222>Dont label everyone who makes other people feel good as predatoryTwisting the words, that’s not what’s being said. You’re actually arguing for people to not push back against pressured sex. Just have it consensual, how difficult is that for you? Why is there this obsession to take advantage of people in vulnerable situations and respecting someone’s boundaries? How are you this dissonant from connecting predatory behavior with this? Please seek mental help.>>44443446>How do you spend your timeIf i’m not studying computer science related subjects (programming, networking and certs) then I typically hangout with my friend; we’ll watch funny shows together, game, or hangout at the mall or movies etc. Generally just having fun spending time together.
>>44443511Damn you're living the NEET dream. My friends are all broke lol
>>44442861>and not even in the typical roommate situation involving opposite gendersNTA, but you're not exactly in a typical roommate situation since you're basically relying on him financially. Not saying you should ever owe someone sex for that, just saying that the average person is not going to understand that kind of situation
Funny that these pornrotted chasers can't fathom someone spending money to help a friend and not expect anything, including sex, in return. Trans women are not vending machines. You don't put in cash and receive sex from them.
>>44442953>but if they’re good friends it should be exciting and happy for both parties to share a platonic hugMaybe I'm just autistic. If a guy hugs me platonically I always think he's forcing himself to do so just to treat me like any other women, so I don't ever initiate it. I remember meeting an old friend for the first time after I'd transitioned and he hugged me when we parted. Completely took me off-guard and I felt bad like I'd made him feel like he had to hug the tranny.
>>44443597>not the typical living situationI’m specifically highlighting that men and women can be roommates and not create an expectation of sex, that it’s typically a norm or the average for westerners. I can agree my situation not being the exact typical situation, but it doesn’t mean it should fit in the “sex should be expected” realm (not to accuse you of implying expectations for sex).>>44443617>not expect anything in returnit’s not even a one way street situation like that; i actively help out where I can both with the house, errands, and where he physically can not. I’m not going to make the argument it’s the exact financial equivalent to the cost of rent, and i’m again beyond appreciative and thankful for the generosity and kindness my friend has given me on top of respecting my bodily autonomy. It’s why I both cherish him deeply and hope to do as much as I can to repay said kindness as close to equal as possible.>>44443628>maybe i’m just autisticPossibly but I won’t assume. I’ll ask, do you feel the same if women hug you? And if you just plain don’t feel comfortable with hugs in general then you’re not obligated nor should be forced to give hugs.
>asexual tranny but posts nothing but gooner tier anime girls with every postHmmmmmmmmm. I'm nooticing
>>44433064Are you moving out when you start college or do you live by one?
>>44441906I don’t notice this from moids, I guess im chopped
>>44443704>posts gooner tier artdon’t blame you if you reach this conclusion. I personally criticize the excessive emphasis on the sex characteristics, but I’m enamored by the faces and sometime overall character designs, so I’m indifferent towards the drawbacks.>>44443723>do you live by one?Yeah, it’s just down by the street so it works out for us :D
>>44443704Its just images of women, dude, you’re self reporting
>>44443734Or you hang with moids who aren't totally horny
>>44443511>Le power imabalnceWokescolding empty words. Literally every relationship ever has a power dynamic in one way or another. Is it predatory when a man who owns a house has sex with his wife? She doesn't have the house, it's sooooo not consensual, right?
>>44433064So what does an exit strategy look like? Having money stashed? How do you do that with no job? If I needed to flee something like this, how do I not end up dead and homeless if he tries to rape me or something.
>>44444059>what does exit strategy look likeHave money saved up before attempting this. At least enough to commute to safety.Have a friend’s place or someone you trust you can go to if things go south.The idea is you had some savings and contacts before attempting this. I went a step further and scoped nearby homeless shelters and visited them frequently for resources and support. But basically do all you can to be as prepared as possible. Domestic violence survivors resources are available to those of us fleeing abusive households including situations like these. But you need to do your research, call their local lines and have a strategy in place.
>>44443684>(not to accuse you of implying expectations for sex)Hope I didn't come across that way. I'm kind of a coomer but it's stupid to project those feelings on others and tell them to fuck their roommate friend
Fuck your broth- I mean roommate, Nona
>>44442861initialelectribe is my discord :)
>>44441947>Honest to God question, how the fuck do I find a man like this? A genuine 4chan humored guy who doesn't want to rape me would be the ultimate jackpot. NTA, but legit find someone who's matured. Men are really, really fucking stupid usually until around 25, and then it's like their brains begin growing. People can't grow up until they've experienced enough, and getting in those mid-to-upper 20s is when dudes usually begin FINALLY mellowing out. I have friend I'm a bit flirty with and we plan to meet up sometime in the future, and it honestly makes me a bit misty-eyed when I think about how much he's grown as a man since I first met him back in 2020. These post-chud chaser boys are no joke.
>>44433064He sounds nice but is he chuddy? I gotta agree with the my melody brown tranny here. 4chuds don't really like black and brown people.
I had a "maid" type situation with limited lewdness with a guy from here. Pretty much I just wore sexy outfits and cosplays for him but he wouldnt touch me and I assumed he'd just jerk it to the pictures he took. It was honestly not bad, he was horny but never pushed for more than what we agreed upon. But I ruined it by having a depression fueled meltdown and called him a pedophile which made him really mad and he told me I had to leave. Now I just get sad when I see cosplay. Anyways my question is how does your guy deal with your meltdowns?
>>44438905??This is even sadder because you're going like>WHY THE FUCK WIULD YOU EVER BE ATTRACTED TO THE PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE...!>CONSUME.PORNOGRAPHY INSTEAD AND DISASSOCIATE ALL PERSONAL FEELINGS FROM YOUR SEXUALITY.... OR ELSE YOURE EVIL
Wish I could host a roomate for free. But i would expect of her to be a life coach and help me rolling again. Sex is overrated. Give be me will to live. Is it to much to ask ?
>>44445076You can be attracted to people you know without masturbating to them. Thats just weird. And I didn't even mention pornography?????? I said fantasies.
>>44445088Bro go to therapy. Life isn't an anime like Welcome to the NHK. Girl isn't going to fall out of the sky to fix you
>>44445098Jerking iff exclusively to fictional beings is what weebs do and its generally agreed upon thats cringe and truecelish
>>44445209Women masturbate to fiction way more then men because of the smut romance they read
>>44444980>called him a pedophile which made him really mad and he told me I had to leavegood for himyou people have been allowed to insult men for no reason and with no consequences for all your livesit's lovely when at least sometimes consequences are being dolled out and rigidly enforced.
>>44445239>you people
>>44445107I dont watch anime. Didn't get the ref. Im on therapy. Doesn't work really well with accoustic people. I just asked for a bestfriend. Its to much isnt it ?
>>44445259You're not going to find a friend if you force your problems onto them and force them to be your life coach
>>44444980Why did you call him a pedophile though?
>>44445088lmao
>>44445217>Implying foids never jork it to moids
>>44444881>is he chuddy?We both play into it occasionally for fun, but not seriously no.>>44444980>how does your guy deal with your meltdowns?He’s mature and patient. He sets time aside to sort’ve help calm me down, let me vent, offer a hug and even takes over some chores until i feel better again, alongside knowing when he needs space to mentally recuperate too.Basically just supports me while i support him back too.>>44445239>ignores the endless transphobic and objectification towards trannies from men since day 1bait or incel poster.>>44445259>is it too much to ask for a best friendI don’t think it’s too much, and at worse depends on how much emotional energy you need them to give you on the daily
>>44445263Every relation is an exchange. I just use money vs support. You dont even need to pretend to like me. Nobody does sad uwu
>>44445279I was having a bad day mentally and instead of doing something constructive I just looked for a reason to fight and be mean. He had a cosplay of a character who was a teenager and I chose that to attack him.
>>44445303>bait or incel posterNeither. I'm actually in the process of getting married to my tranny gf. I am however someone who doesn't believe in collective punishment or in the right of trannies to lash out on someone because someone else unrelated may or may not have done something to them in the past.I don't hate all women because my mom was an abusive narc and a rapist or because my female teacher nearly killed my sister or because retarded women say retarded shit online. I expect the exact same level of maturity from everyone else.If my (soon) wife starts randomly calling me a pedophile, she'd better have a place to stay already arranged. Nobody has a duty to take abuse from anyone!
>>44445389Brudda you aren't marrying the 19 year old discord kitten you talk to
>>44445422brudda i live with her in the same apartment.i dont even have a discord account lul
>>44445303Wow that sounds lovely. I wish I had someone like that who could tolerate my tranny mental illness. You are really lucky
>>44445445No one is buying it
>>44445521great. it's not the point of the argument anyway.the point of the argument is whether trannies (or really anyone) have a right to randomly start calling their partner sick names and get no consequences for it.I mean read >>44445310's motivations. Would YOU tolerate that from someone you financially support and is supposed to be your life partner?
>>44445389>getting married to my tranny gfGoing off of the 1% chance this isn't a larp, genuinely why would you call her that, rather than just "trans gf," etc etc? Maybe it's just because I don't understand people well but if you really care about them why speak about them disrespectfully at all
>>44445628>genuinely why would you call her thatbecause we're functional adults and this is 4chan.the reason we grew closer together is precisely because we're not hypersensitive dipshits.>Maybe it's just because I don't understand people wellMore like at all. Functional adults have a sense of humour. I'm a faggot, she's a tranny, and that's fine. We're both gonna straggot larp legally just as we've been straggot larping socially for a few years already.I'm also not an agloid (praise the Lord for that). This pronoun policing and uppity speech codes and neurotic fake sensitivity are unheard of here.
>>44433064All these people talking about sex and romance, but honestly the rarest thing in the world these days is a genuinely close friend that loves you. Don't lose that nona, hold on to it as tight as you can.
>>44445667100% larp. Get a life dude
>>44445591>”the point of the argument is whether anyone have the right to call their partner sick names and get no consequences.”>also>>44445239>”you people have been allowed to insult men for no reason and with no consequences for all your lives”Idk, it seems like the original point of contention was you generalizing all trannies of this behavior, completely subscribed to the belief that trannies somehow always live a pampered life devoid of discrimination, ostracization, or excessive and abusive forms of punishments that are not equally treated towards men.You turning it into a “men are treated worse than trannies and trannies are never punished or abused by society” is where people disagree with your unhinged view on reality.
>>44433064Nice to hear that it worked out for you. My retarded tranny self fumbled something similar so I will flip the script and give you some advice. The things you do for him? Do not fuck up and stop doing them. I thought I could get away with doing less and less because the man I was staying with was so nice. He just picked up the slack when I said I was tired or having a bad day until he just stopped asking me to do things at all. I think it was at that point he decided he was going to kick me out but I still rode it out for a few months until he had "The Talk" . Please don't be like me and take advantage, no matter how much he says it's okay.
>>44445784I should be fine as I genuinely enjoy spending time and helping him out, and he’s gone out of his way multiple times to reaffirm and support me, even when I expressed my anxieties or even offered to stop living with him as I at times felt like a burden to him. But he’s gone through deep talks with me stating how he enjoys our conversations, laughs, banters, input on topics, emotional support for each other, on top of providing service help where he physically can not. I trust him, and I’ll keep doing my best to show my thanks and appreciation to him, while working towards my ability to be independent and less a burden.
>>44433064damn ur lucky nonathats like my dream job
Give me your address. I'll come over with a maid outfit on and steal your chaser for myself. I bet I can cook a better meal than you too
I need this except a tranny bitch that pays me for the privilege of doing all that.T. Fat neet who gets money for autism and has a 7.4 inch dick.
>>44446672Fuck it, I'm throwing my maid headdress into the ring too. Let's make it a fucking tranny maid battle royal. Winner keeps the moid.
>>44434533>>44446924
>>44446672>>44446871post your contact info and let’s see how far the two of you are interested =)
>>44446980AMAZING
>>44446980My friend and I can’t stop laughing at the birth of this. We’ll print it and post it on the fridge
>>44445445why are you bothering with the tranny board if youre in the process of marrying, this isnt like a great haven of knowledge, seems kinda miserable but idk, what is the reason your browse here ig
>>44447053>>44447079Glad y'all liked it lmao
>>44447085>this isnt like a great haven of knowledgewithout hrtgen I wouldn't be having a wife.yes, the majority of people here are miserable, but quite a few aren't. and i learned a few things from the board.but you're right, digging through shit to find the gems is getting tiresome.
i love all the pretty maid art in this thread
A chaser and a tranny living together without fucking each other, killing each other, or both? Truly a miracle
>>44433064Sounds like a larp to me. Post proof you're actually a tranny. Timestamped feet pics should do.
>>44448098I have to agree. I can't believe this until I see tranny toes to confirm
>>44448098>>44448321Oop, you’re right, it was larp all along. Sorry.
>>44443187Me? I'd get her addicted to my cum without her even knowing it. Cumming in her shampoo, cummin on her toothbrush, cumming in her food. Just get my semen in her system until she subconsciously needs my seed.
>>44448507why does the leaf look ai-generated
OP, why was he posting on /lgbt/ to begin with if he's a non-chaser cis male?
>>44448656asymmetric and no fractal structure
>>44450340She said he dates trannies, probably a bichud
>op finds the mythical perfect chaser husband>puts him in the friendzonelowkey seething that good things come to those who squander it
>>44450821You need to read these wise words>>44435702
This thread is just an attempt to add trannies to this guy's harem. You're just the head tranny looking to aquire concubines for your man. I see right through you
>>44451127>head tranny looking to aquire concubines for your manThe platonic “polycule” where we hangout, play board games, make and eat food together, under the same roof. Also, he’s monogamous.>>44450821>squanderLet’s play match maker.
>>44433325amazing how some of you will never ever accept good things can happen
>>44452185Can you blame a girl for being jaded in the big 2026?
>>44434607>transbian post not about hating men: difficulty impossible
>>44433880It simply isn't fair. You already got the gift of being a luckshit passoid. Why do you also get this gift as well? To be a hon is to suffer.
>>44440608The difference is you will constantly ser transbians shitting on chasers because they are the only ones who actually hang out with trannies irl (transbians dont mind the dudes who say they are into trannies but never go ahead with it)Keep in mind most of this board is transbians
>>44452272>Chasers>Hang out with trannies irllol no they wouldn't be caught dead in public with a tranny
>>44452271>it simply isn’t fairMy life is not without a plethora of tragedy, trauma, and terror. It seems with every blessing I receive it comes with a curse. Not to say I have it worse than everyone, but that it becomes not only useless but harmful to try and compete in suffering olympics with one another.
>>44442985its the opposite lmao, how many transbians are here saying all men are evil
>trust me hon, I may be prettier than you and have an amazing situation with a caring friend but I swear I feel sad some times and that's just as bad as you being a forever alone ogreTotal passoid death
>>44433064where can I meet someone who could take me in? I'm about to get kicked out of my house and none of my friends can provide help. I just can't seem to find housing so this seems like a good option
>>44452391Wya?
>>44445628this aint reddit blud
>>44452415europe, I can get a plane ticket to travel to almost anywhere within the eu
>>44452369Every time with these passoid bitches, nona. They just don't get it
I mean I'd do something similar for a tranny but I'd like some platonic handjobs at the very least
>>44452314You're alive, you're in good health, you have emotional and financial support. And you're a fucking passoid. You are in the fucking 1% of trannies right now. You are a total bitch if you don't realize that
>>44443511Is there a way to offer housing and financial support in exchange for sexual service without it being predatory?
>>44452826I don’t want to dig a deeper hole for myself after reviewing how insensitive my post came off. I apologize for that. And yeah i count my blessings. But i want the traumatic nightmares and self harm thoughts to stop, and felt both minimized and insulted when others insinuated somehow i’m without any faults, or that I should somehow “be happy” despite the heavier stuff i’m going through, which has been the same abusive rhetoric told to me by my abusers who physically and mentally scarred me since childhood.>>44452901>without it being predatoryThe very nature of the environment, the type of person in a vulnerable situation needing shelter and food that would take this offer, is what prevents this from ever not being a predatory scenario. Maybe with a pre established friends with benefits who clearly has a fall back safe option in case they don’t want to pursue further, but it’s a predatory situation regardless.
>>44452947In this same vein, is all sex work predatory then?
>>44435253>>44444643Did you end up joining the polycule?
Is he rich enough to house another tranny? I can do the chores you don't want to do....
>>44453084>is all sex work predatoryMajority of it is, yes, due to the circumstances that lead people into that line of work. Again, would require specific situations where it’s just an option and not something they’re pressured into doing due to life circumstances.>>44453151I’ve contacted both and conversed a bit, but I’m not sure how interested they are in connecting, let alone seriously going through with it. Just friends is also more than welcomed to the both of them if that’s what they can tolerate too ^^
>>44453203>is he rich enough to house another trannyyes. Can share contact info if you’d like to learn more or just hang out as well.
>>44453218But aren't we all(except neets like you that find gods among men to support them) pressured into work for fear of homelessness? Is all work therefore predatory? I'm really not seeing how saying "do my chores to stay here" is any different than "have sex to stay here". A job is a job.
>>44452947I hope that one day this guy beats or rapes you. God that would be so based to see you cry after humble bragging to everyone here
>>44452901>Is there a way to offer housing and financial support in exchange for sexual service without it being predatory?I think the only way to do so is if it's with a person who independently has their shit together and isn't a dependent. Basically, the only way to remove the implied coercive threat from the exchange is for them to not need it in the first place.Philosophically it's kind of a weird situation that I still turn over in my head regarding sex work. By the above logic, there can be no fair transactions between people unless both people involved are willing to walk away at any time. But many, possibly even most, people would fail to meet that standard of eligibility. Is it right for me to take the option of sex work away from them? Am I really protecting them or am I just kicking down some of the few practical ladders a struggling person might have in the name of moral grandstanding? I don't know.
>>44453279nona is not beating the tranny harem queen allegations...
>>44453341wtf, bitter sneedhon needs to go touch grass
>>44453474I don't blame the girlies in this thread. She's describing a dream scenario and if I didn't have a bf, I'd probably hit her up too
>>44453293>a job is a jobequating sex work to physical labor is (majority of the time) not equivalent. You can flip burgers for a month, quit the job and typically won’t endure years lasting trauma. Sex workers will more times than can be counted, not only endure abuse within the industry, and lack of workers rights, but sexual trauma is traumatic because of the lasting mental strain it can impart on its victims, not to mention risk of STDs, or physical trauma. A job isn’t equivalent to any other job, and there are definitely other occupations with too high mortality rates, or your general traumas themselves (deep sea repair engineers, oil rig workers, doctors etc.)>>44453341>ignores response and wishes physical harm on othersOkay, you’re poison.>>44453444>am i protecting someone or taking their option of reliable shelter in exchange for sex, away?If you want to protect them and not be predatory then don’t place sex on the table. Otherwise you’re a part of the predatory group.>>44453474>not beating tranny harem allegationsI’m not, but if I can’t be trusted then this is probably not for those inquiring. I felt similar apprehension when i received a response from my friend but it turned out for the better and I did my due diligence to vet before going forward with any serious action.
>>44453684>If you want to protect them and not be predatory then don’t place sex on the table. Otherwise you’re a part of the predatory groupnta but your definition of "predatory" is insane. Basically anyone who is not an asexual autist is "predatory" in your definition.You are the problem, not everyone else.Sex is always on the table among healthy adults.
>>44453684>am i protecting someone or taking their option of reliable shelter in exchange for sex, away?>If you want to protect them and not be predatory then don’t place sex on the tableOk, let's say we take that option off the table. The person still has no shelter and one less way of getting it. Are they better off for our intervention?
>>44453684Feels like you're projecting sexual trauma onto others. Sex as a job is no different than any other type of manual labor that puts stress on your body. Sex isnt a holy act or anything like that
I wish I could have a close male friend but I don't trust myself not to ruin it by being a desperate tranny slut
>>44439035>>44438905i was about to disagree with this but i totally masturbated to my antonio banderas looking physical therapist so idk, its not on purpose theres just things that come into my mind when im already doing it.
>>44453712>Are they better off for our intervention?You’re basically arguing:>Its better to be raped than murderedAnd although technically true, why not just not rape and offer the help in exchange for the company / physical labor? Why insist on justifying exchange for sex? Or, in the extreme other direction, why not just embrace yourself desiring this irrespective of their well being? You can choose to be helpful without predatory, trying to twist it otherwise is concerning.>>44453702>sex is always on the table with adultsWhen it’s consensual. I don’t understand how you can see the power imbalance or predatory nature of being in the situation where you have to exchange your body for sex for shelter (not only due to the risk of traumas but also society reinforcing the pressure to either not have a high body count, or to be known as someone who trades their intimacy for financial stability; essentially desecrating oneself from future partners due to the structure of our cultures). Sex is fine, just make sure it’s consensual instead of creating the scenario between: surrender your intimate body parts or be homeless.>>44453722>sex isn’t a holy actSociety actively reinforces to be akin to that level. People more times on average don’t view sex workers as potential partners vs a coworker at an office job. It’s imbalanced expectations. And again, how statistically likely are you to get an STD working a retail job? Do you have labor rights compared to the other? Or reliving traumas due to your body enduring physical trauma (because sex work a majority of the time involves extreme acts and never the most base form of copulation). >>44453846Which is fine in private, and is normal for men (or being on testosterone).
This guy must be a saint because I'm already annoyed with this bitch and I've only read her posts for half an hour
>>44453684>A job isn’t equivalent to any other job, and there are definitely other occupations with too high mortality rates, or your general traumas themselves (deep sea repair engineers, oil rig workers, doctors etc.)Compare it to something common like construction work then. Hard on the body, dangerous, often leaves laborers with chronic health issues. Often taken up by people with few other options. Jobs with potential for trauma are very common outside of cushy white collar or service jobs. I don't think any of the qualms you have about sex work are unique to that kind of work.
>>44452185for real. 4chan incels (trans) will tell you youre lying if literally anything you say is positive in any way.>>44452193youre not jaded you just never leave your room
>>44454068His disability must be downs syndrome
>>44433064Question on what he offers you so I can get my own expectations in order if I accept something similar. He provides room and board, obviously, but is that all? Does he only pay for needs (food, utilities, etc) and you find your own luxuries like video games and things like that?
>>44454647>Does he only pay for needs?Food, shelter, utilities, and some spending funds since it’s still labor and I’m technically “on call” for help. Was discussed beforehand as a way to help not feel “trapped” and a savings can be created.
>>44454786This motherfucker pays you a salary on top of feeding and housing your ass. I am going to start seething wtf
>>44454860Technically I pay the groceries and cook (alongside most of the other house hold jobs and errands). But most people reading this likely blow this out of proportion.
As a pooner I wish I would have something like this but a man would never do this for another man
>>44455060I'm a man (I think) and I'm insanely attracted to FTM men, but I'm also an autistic introvert who gets on edge and uncomfortable even knowing someone else is in the same building as me, nor do I have no own space, so sadly I wouldn't be able to offer it to you
