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>literal toddlers can consent to gender affirming surgery
>women cannot consent to sex until they are 26 because something brain developing

How does this make sense??
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>two made up statements
wow, what a great thread we're going to have
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>>44441354
Hi, left-wing tranny here.
>literal toddlers can consent to gender affirming surgery
Only with an evaluation from a child psychologist trained in discerning and supporting a child's capacity for consent. While I'm not such an expert, I don't think many of them are dealing with toddlers as patients though. But if they (well, maybe two of them providing separate opinions) said a toddler was ready for this then I trust the experts' opinions.
>women cannot consent to sex until they are 26 because something brain developing
Those are just retards, possibly with unfortunate trauma from actual sexual assault, looking to offload responsibility for their own lives and decisions onto society because disempowering themselves (or worse, disempowering others) feels comforting. It's best to ignore them.
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>>44441354
>two made up statements noone believes
>how does this make sense!?!?
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>>44441372
>>44441423
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/Please go make a post and ask them how they feel about adult men chasing 18 year old women
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>>44441354
>being against pedophilia is left-wing
checks out
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>>44441440
Indeed adult women are actually children
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>>44441436
>page not found
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>>44441436
>adult men chasing 18 year old women
How old is the adult man in question?
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>>44441436
just because you waited for a couple of days for her to turn 18 as a 50 year old greasy fuck doesn't mean you are not a pedophile, it means you are just exploiting the law.
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>>44441476
>it's illegal to do X when Y
>don't do X when Y

please point me to the exploit in question
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>>44441354
there's just as many points of cognitive dissonance in any ideology so I'm not too pressed but yeah they're stupid we gotta abolish the aoc
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>>44441436
Hi, left-wing tranny again.
>adult men chasing 18 year old women
There's two separate phenomenon going on here, the young party's capacity to consent, and the older party's behaviour.
There's some debate about the age of consent and when capacity to consent is fully developed, and the societal consequences of criminalizing stuff some people are just going to do regardless. But the point is that the social consensus is that, for the majority of people, they have the full capacity to consent by age 16 (in my legal jurisdiction). So someone who is 18 is completely in the clear for doing whatever the fuck they want with whoever the fuck they want.
Then there's the older party's behaviour, putting aside the age of consent stuff. Clearly what they are doing is legal, but legal does not mean socially acceptable. And in particular, people find it off-putting when they see behaviour that is a massive outlier from the common patterns of behaviour they see in society. The dominant pattern of sexual behaviour in society is that the average person has a sexual and romantic preference for people in an age band of a few years near their own age. They generally find partners significantly older than them less physically attractive and more flawed, and they generally find partners significantly younger than them too immature, annoying, or jarringly "different". And so engaging in sexual behaviour with someone significantly younger (or significantly older—I feel like it DOES go both ways and the younger partner will also be judged) just gives people the "ick".
Different people feel different intensities of disgust. To be honest, mine is pretty weak when it comes to this kind of thing. It's a little weird, but you do you. But other people feel disgust a lot more strongly, and thus will take stronger action to intervene and mitigate their feeling of disgust, including direct action to try to eliminate the source of their disgust.
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>>44441496
NTA not illegal but it's definitely weird to indulge in 18 year olds when someone is +25
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>>44441436
>trannies are the chase women at night meme
go back
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Anon are you smoking crack?
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>>44441574
smartest anon itt
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trannies are raping me
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>>44441354
I don't understand right-wing troons
>literal toddlers can't consent to gender affirming surgery
>literal toddlers can consent to growing unalterable bones that will force them to be cisgender, repress and in the end rope

How does this make sense??

Btw, I'm not into politics but I doubt this has anything to do with being a left/right winger, I just wanted to use the original format
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hi chuddy! here is a relevant hazbin hotel image for your post.
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>>44441354
>literal toddlers can consent to gender affirming surgery
who does this are right wings because they see intersex conditions as disorders
>women cannot consent to sex until they are 26 because something brain developing
ive never seen anyone say that
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>>44441415
>expert worship
Your very own priest class.
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>>44441577
What if you were just heavily autistic or socially awkward and anxious at the time?

Obviously the larger the age gap the worse its going to look no matter how legal it is on paper.

Just think its wrong to say sorry anon you are 30, 40+ now you cant have consensual sex with anyone 18-25 you creeptard. People can have various different factors in life that can affect or prevent them from getting laid
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>>44441574
>Clearly what they are doing is legal, but legal does not mean socially acceptable.
Same can be said about homosexual couples or transitioning. Do you really want the world to revolve around what normies consider acceptable or not?
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>>44441574
>There's some debate about the age of consent
>she say while Twitter leftists are constantly decrying the AoC

Where is this so-called "debate"?
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>>44441789
You should try becoming an expert in something. Then you will understand how frustrating retards who not only don't understand the subject matter in question, but actively refuse to grapple with your careful explanation in language they should be able to understand, are.

>>44441825
I already said I'm not particularly disgusted by exceptional behaviour. I already come from a class of people with "exceptional" behaviour and have dealt with that shit. What part of that post gave you the opposite impression?

>>44441845
>bot site filled with bots amplifying conflict for various reasons (profit, domestic/foreign manipulation)
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>>44441649
None of us consented to being born but that's the default state of being
You can decide you don't want to live anymore but that requires enough mental depth and life experience to warrant making an informed decision
Same goes for being trans, you need to learn enough about life and yourself to realize what you are, a boy playing with Barbies is not enough to determine this
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>>44441870
common consensus of science is that gender identity is partially irreversibly formed around the age of 3 therefore the age of 3 is enough to decide

source:
Wikipedia, Introduction to Behavioral Science in Medicine according to Wikipedia
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>>44441436
>these freaking LIBTARDS are trying to stop me from sleeping with 18 year olds as a 40 year old FUB
seriously if youre way older than 18 and you date 18 year olds, we know youre only stoping there because of the law not any morals

you would go younger if you could and we are free to judge you for being creepy
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>>44441354
>literal toddlers can consent to gender affirming surgery
>women cannot consent to sex until they are 26 because something brain developing
A cisfoids is less conscious than a toddler.
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>>44441577
Completely normal actually
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>>44441574
>The dominant pattern of sexual behaviour in society is that the average person has a sexual and romantic preference for people in an age band of a few years near their own age.
This is totally wrong though. What you described is the dominant pattern of sexual behavior among *women* only. The dominant pattern of sexual behavior among men is that the average man wants to fuck 16-24-year-old women regardless of his own age. This is absolutely normal and shaming men for it is a sign of a grossly gynocentric society.
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>>44442076
So if foids aren't capable of deciding who to have sex with 18 should they have the right to vote, enter into contract and such?
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>>44442365
that's literally hypergamy though
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>>44441354
Nothing makes sense when you make up stuff that doesn't make sense.
No one said toddlers can consent to surgery. "Gender affirming care" for a 6-13 year old is just getting them different clothes and using different pronouns or a different name. Then puberty after puberty blockers.
If you want things to make sense, stop making up lies.
>women cannot consent to sex until they are 26 because something is brain developing
Not what anyone at all is saying. "The left" (or, more accurately in this case, feminists) are saying it's creepy for a 27-year-old to hit on an 18-year-old because of the intense power imbalance between the two.
This has nothing to do solely with brain development. This has to do with how the risk of abuse of authority, even unintentionally. No one is arguing that an 18 year old woman can consent to sex with an 18 year old guy.
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>>44442383
Maybe but the question is why society in general should cater to the repressive hypergamy of walled foids specifically, rather than having actual liberal norms such as "it's legal at 16, after that everything's fair as long as you don't use deception".
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>>44442365
Touch grass. Most men have sexual relationships with similiarly aged women, stats also show this.
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>>44442389
* Then puberty blockers after puberty. Not the reverse.
To clarify, no one is doing surgery on literal toddlers, or even young children. It's incredibly rare for surgery to happen under the age of 18 at all.
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>>44442397
Most men have sexual relationships with similarly aged women because women are the gatekeepers, not because that's their own preference.
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>>44441354
Gosh I love feet
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>>44442426
A study showing people a picture and then asking them how good they look is not a good evaluation of actual sexual behaviour and patterns. But for a dumbshit like you posting a single graph and calling it a day is about the intellectual rigor I expect.
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>>44442449
>coping this hard about men's undeniable sexual preferences
I'm starting to think I've unearthed an actual foid on 4chan
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>>44442426
>look best
There's your problem. They may prefer the appearance, but the second these retarded young adults open their fucking mouth, boner gone.
>because women are the gatekeepers
Because the laws of fucking reality are the gatekeepers. There aren't enough 20-somethings for 100% the adult male population to be exclusively banging them. Even if those women are banging multiple partners. The population pyramid just doesn't work like that.

>>44442390
>as you don't use deception
Depends what you mean about "deception". If it's lying about the sex acts themselves (e.g. promising to use a condom then not), then yeah fuck that it's sexual assault.
If it's lying that you're a wealthy actor or some shit, then that's fraud, not sexual assault. Stop equating "lying" and "rape". Sexual assault is a uniquely heinous crime, we need to stop diluting its meaning by including all this unrelated shit.
Heck, even lying about how much you'll pay a prostitute isn't sexual assault, it's still simply fraud and the most that should happen is getting arrested for fraud under/over $5,000.
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>>44442485
>Because the laws of fucking reality are the gatekeepers. There aren't enough 20-somethings for 100% the adult male population to be exclusively banging them.
Sure, this is true too, but the point is that if an older guy can bag an 18-year-old it's only desirable from the perspective of older women to try to shame him out of it (it also doesn't usually work, natch).
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>>44442549
You did not grow up faintly hearing your parents have vigorous sex in the room next door and it shows.
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>>44441870
The default state of being should be whatever has the highest statistical likelihood of leading to a happy life for the patient. If you disagree with that you are just genuinely insane and/or evil.



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