the words TMA/TME are so retarded and people need to stop using them. you can literally just say transfem and non transfem. you’re not special because people hate you in a unique way, all groups have a specific type of bigotry linked to them.
>>44442575Am I retarded if I still don't know what these mean?
>>44442582TMA: transmisogyny affectedTME: transmisogyny exemptbasically like i said, transfem and not transfem. very stupid to create terms like this and use them as somewhat of an identity
>>44442575>words like rich and poor are retarded and people need to stop using them
>>44442596you’re right nobody has it hard except for mtfs. stupid afab wombenly tme BITCHES need to shut the fuck up because they’re not heckin oppressed like me obviously
>>44442596this is the dumbest argument ever lmfao rich and poor are actually useful terms for distinct things meanwhile tma and tme are just trans woman vs literally everyone else
>>44442575I used to hate it too, but then I realized its the smartest sublabel transfems have ever made. It doesn't just mean transfem, it's an umbrella for trans women, nbs and reppers. The idea is nixing a buy-in identity for something actually concrete. Bonus points cuz it excludes theyfabs who call themselves transfem, and crossdressing men who always have the option of saying "hey at least I'm not a tranny"
>>44442869Why would it include reppers?
>>44442609This but with total sincerity
>>44442940It depends on the repper. Not any cismoid who says, "ahaha what if jk" I'm talking specifically about people who know that they should transition but choose not to do so. Although they may not call themselves trans, part of the reason hate against trans women is publicized is to make the act of transitioning less hospitable, which absolutely affects them.
>>44442575Cishons are TMA though, since they can get mistaken for transfems and harassed for it.
>>44443164Actually, no they're not. They may have anti-trans rhetoric levied against them, but at the end of the day they're able to exempt themselves by saying, "Actually, I'm a real woman," and throwing us under the bus.Even passoid trannies are dirtied by the fact that they've had to live as men, in a way that cishons aren't.
>>44442957kill yourself
>>44443123mreppers are not TMA because they present as cismoids
>>44443452No, they are, it's just a bit gray. Repping and passing are basically the same thing: they're both just strategies to avoid public humiliation.
>>44443123never thought about it this way but yeah this. part of what made me rep for so long was the visible vitriol and the purely negative view of transitioning that was presented to the world
>>44442589>transmisogynyAll hate for gender non-conforming AMABs is misandry, and it comes from AFABs who are pissed their free ride through life is taking off without them.
>>44443672I'm curious as to your reasoning. If misandry is hatred towards men, then wouldn't gender conforming men get the most misandry?
>>44443586Passing and repping are the same if they both come from a place of intentional conformity. Someone can pass and not be repressed (most cis and some trans people). Someone can fail to pass and not be repressed (confident but 'atypical' cis and trans people). Someone can pass and be repressed (the traditional 'repper'). And someone can not pass and be repressed (hrtreppers, boymoders, manmoders, etc)
>>44443741notice how he’s silent because you got his ass
>>44443586no, reppers cannot face transmisogyny unless they tell someone about their struggles. to the world they are cis men.
>>44443977Nta but I think the point was more that they're affected by it not that they face it directly.
>>44444180then how are they affected by it? lol
>>44444247Nigga fuckin read the post again, she explains how pretty succinctly.
>>44444259not really
>>44442869i’ve never once in my life seen a theyfab call themself a transfem. only transmasc, which makes actual ftms look like a joke by proxy
>>44444265I think the point that was being made was that transmisogyny used against trannies will be indirectly observed and internalized by reppers and the shame keeps them repressed. That was my understanding at least, but I'm also drunk sooooo.
>>44443977>>44444180>>44444247Reppers try to seem like cismoids, and generally are able to do a good job at blending in, but the key to trannyness is a failure to be socialized male, a failure to participate in society as a male, or a lack of desire to do so. Reppers (and passoids in a different way) have the most freedom to participate in polite cis society, but that freedom is limited by the condition that they don't admit that they're trans, don't discuss their transness, and otherwise keep that shit to themselves. If they break that contract, then their lives are ruined.A good rule of thumb about TMAs is not directness or volume, more like whether or not it can trap you.>>44444305Basically.>>44444296Don't worry, it's a thing but not a huge thing. Mostly very tumblr/discord-brained fringe individuals, who thankfully stay away from the public eye.
>>44442575everyone in this thread is so fucking retarded. go back to tumblr and stop pretending "transmisogyny" is real.
>>44445199biggest trvke
>>44442575TMA and TME are big alphabet people terms. It's so embarrassing honestly...
>>44442609you have it hard in a way that has some overlap and some differences. by signifying this analysis becomes much easier
>>44445449>I HATE ACRONYMS THEYE ALL FAGGYthis but unironically maybe tbdesu i agree>>44444858>more like whether or not it can trap you.the hard line serano baeddel transandrophobic phrasing is ones "ability to leverage AGAB against oppositional sexism" so kinda. i have a feeling this particular way of thinking with "social leverage" and shit is very contrary to the principles of woke 1.0 though so do use that sparingly
>>44445522there are unique experiences to being both transfem and transmasc but you never see ftms bitching and infighting about how they have it harder and nobody else should speak about trans issues because they’re non-transmasc, there’s barely even a term for hatred against trans men
>>44442575it's not about identification, it's about social relations in regards to how trans women are treated. It should only be used to talk about transphobia and abuse in relation to trans women and exclusion of non trans women from the subject
>>44442575Poon and tranny work too
>>44442609It's funny because finally you're getting a taste of your own medicine. Don't you say this stuff to manosphere guys? That's you. You're the MRA now. This situation is not equal. You don't get to have equal time on the stage. Shut up and be an ally.
>>44446927it’s just the fact that you don’t see words like this for ANY other group. as i said, you’re not special for people hating you in a unique way. every marginalized group has a specific brand of bigotry thrown at them, but you don’t see anyone else shouting at others about how people who aren’t part of their very specific group are (type of bigotry) exempt and they need to stop acting like they have their own issues because nothing could possibly compare to the groups suffering. you’re all so full of yourselves and you genuinely think that nobody else struggles as much as you. grow the hell up and go outside.
>>44446958manosphere guys want to forcefully detransition and correctively rape trans men to force them to be barefoot and pregnant tradwives. MRA’s hate both of us, and you acting like i’m on their side is insane.
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