how can a repper be saved from their sad path? I have a few reppers in my life and I would like to get them on the path to a bright and beautiful future.t. cute twinkhon
>>44485013where is picrel from
>>44485079a manga called "welcome back, Alice" by a famous repper. its from an afterword in one of the volumes
>>44485013Normalize being trans so society doesn't attack you for it.
>>44485013the problem with reppers is that you can't really get them to change. they have to want change for themselves bad enough in order to escape their vicious cycle of inaction. sadly it's usually too late by then, since reppers tend to have a surprisingly high tolerance for mental pain. it's possible for some reppers to develop a strange symbiotic relationship with their own suffering, so much so that it provides them with a wicked kind of masochistic satisfaction, which further deters them from seeking a way out.
>>44485013Whatever
>>44485013god i hate AGPs
>>44485013Problem?
>>44487369want to talk?
>>44488230yes but i need some rest first its been a long night
>>44487629you harbor self hatred. there is nothing wrong with being agp, its just what happens when one sex is the beautiful and desirable one>>44487954Yes. They arent becoming the women they were meant to be.
>>44485013this is so dramatic and self indulgent, there is no girl inside you. its just your desire, if you see it as a big deal then of course its going to be a nightmare for you, the people who transition and pass know that is all a farce and they dont really know if they are a girl or not, and they are happy.
>>44488646women are fuck ugly tho
>>44488976whats the point of having a human brain if we dont use it to conceptualize and understand our place on earth and our positions in society?also like, its a metaphor for something the author wrote multiple manga about to try and understand (hes an agp repper with a unique psychology)
>>44489004because any tool can be used badly. its understand that a repper would create this delusion that theres a woman inside them trying to get out, but its ultimately not true and serves no purpose other than to torture you. meanwhile passoids think of themselves as gayboys half the time and are happy. it only means as much as you think it means. make it mean less and its easier to actually do the things that lead to happiness.
>>44489038I think we mostly agree actually!! I just dont think that theres any problem in being introspective
>>44485013>how can a repper be saved from their sad path?I don't need to be "saved" from my "sad path"> I have a few reppers in my life and I would like to get them on the path to a bright and beautiful future.You can start by valuing them and what they think now over their(so, your personal) bright and beautiful future. What if I prefer to rep?
>>44485093This
>>44489130theres not but it comes to a point of psychotic rumination. we have to be introspective of course
>>44485093>>44488646And improve the technology to the point where anybody could effortlessly and completely change their sex at any point of their lives.
>>44489136i actually dont bring up gender stuff at all with these people, its always them asking questions about it all smiley then fucking being all "nooooo but i can't im just not like that" its infuriating>>44489186i want that technology...just imagine how simple life could be : (
>>44489186You don't need the technology as much if being a youngshit was normalized. Most reppers rep because (if they're older, this is no longer an issue) they don't know about trans stuff, or because they live in a completely unsupportive environment. Social pressure. Removing the social pressure is the same thing as removing the stigma against coming out, so reppers don't rep through their teen years and their parents don't refuse them treatment. Much less need for advanced procedures (surgeries.) Obviously being able to grow a female reproductive system from your own cells in a tube and surgically install it would be ideal, but you wouldn't be able to even do that without having social support first and foremost.
>>44489243>actually dont bring up gender stuff at all with these people, its always them asking questions about it all smiley then fucking being all "nooooo but i can't im just not like that" its infuriating Why is that infuriating? You're trans. You call yourself a "twinkhon" Isn't being asked about gender stuff par for the course for you?The reaction reppers have "oh, that's not me" comes from a realization I had about identity from using 4chan. In real life, I'm not really myself, because it's real. There's consequences. Even alone, when I talk about myself, there's a bias. I'm not really myself. But on 4chan, the anonymity and lack of consequences means it's actually my choice who I want to be. I don't even have to subscribe to the notion that I have to be honest with myself when I'm using this website. The crazy thing is that I end up being more myself when I'm repping than I am when I'm trying to be genuine. But since everyone tells you to always be honest with yourself, and repping is seen as only ever a necessary evil, reppers never articulate their true desire and why they rep. To them it's ineffible, because or the culture we live in.Reppers are misunderstood creatures. Granted, sometimes, yes, they're just putting on a face for the appeal of others. But other times, because I'm not really male, I can be whoever I want as a male, rather than who I really am. And who knows? Maybe one day I'll find an expression of maleness I identify with and then I'll never have to transition. We know how many reppers were John 50, but we don't know how many were just John.
>>44489523Its infuriating because they clearly want to transition but absolutely will not bite the bullet. I kind of get what youre saying, but mostly disagree. I dont think you have a great understanding of what makes something "real". I don't either, but its something people have thought and debated on for a very long time, so theres lots of resources to reaearch!
>>44489587It's because we want to transition but we also want to pass, and we want social approval, and a happy life. One or often multiple of these is going to be denied to us if we do transition, so people make the decision to rep to try and preserve social approval, or a happy life, or to avoid the pain of being a hon. The problem is that being GD is a problem that feels worse as time goes on.
>>44489621Yeah i guess it just doesnt make sense to me to continue repping when you know that its only going to get harder and harder. I know this is mean or perhaps lacking empathy, but i cannot stop thinking that its all just a fear response, and they are not courageous enough people to get through that.
>>44489683>you know that its only going to get harder and harderThing is, people don't know that automatically. Unless you have someone you trust teach you that, and most reppers are very isolated in regards to being trans. You don't learn that on your own until you go through it, which means you tend to be older when you break which means all those other issues get exacerbated.>they are not courageous enough peopleI certainly consider myself a disgusting coward, so at the very least I can attest its sometimes a factor. Certain personalities are more likely to rep, like cowards, people-pleasers, conformists etc.
>>44485013Question for the trannies and pinkpillers itt. Is there ever a situation or circumstance where repping is justified or at least understandable?
>>44489722Ok, this is actually extremely enlightening to me. Maybe I'll try and teach my repper friends that.Tbh one came out to me recently and hes in a really really really bad spot when it comes to being a passing woman, so i really understand why he hasnt pursued it from that angle..i think if i was in his shoes id try and repress too. I was really quite lucky compared to the reppers i know...do you think im causing them pain by being a tranny and fag and just generally living the life they wish they had?>>44489758See above, ive had a realization. Not going to stop me from getting reppers to at least take hrt though.
>>44489770>do you think im causing them pain by being a tranny and fag and just generally living the life they wish they had?Yes, but it's not like your fault, and reppers get attracted to this stuff in private regardless. If they weren't hanging out with you then they'd seek out others instead, or come to a place like this to talk about it. It's an outlet, rare is the repper who can just completely disengage from it even if it hurts to see others being happy.
>>44489758trannies are spoiled cunts most of the time in life there are compromises
>>44489587>Its infuriating because they clearly want to transition but absolutely will not bite the bulletHave you asked them what they want?>I kind of get what youre saying, but mostly disagree. I dont think you have a great understanding of what makes something "real". I don't either, but its something people have thought and debated on for a very long time, so theres lots of resources to reaearch!I mean, it's common knowledge that people answer survey questions in ways that protect themselves even when they're anonymous.>>44489621>It's because we want to transition but we also want to pass, and we want social approval, and a happy life.That's not entirely why I rep. I want social approval, a happy life, and to get the freedom to decide who I am. >so people make the decision to rep to try and preserve social approval, or a happy life, or to avoid the pain of being a hon.There's this, but there's also that the way I rep is like Jax but without being mean to people. I genuinely enjoy pretending. I enjoy creating who I am.>>44489683>Yeah i guess it just doesnt make sense to me to continue repping when you know that its only going to get harder and harderI don't think it's going to. I'll just keep getting better at pretending faster than the GD.>its all just a fear responseIt's not all JUST a fear response. Only some of it is.>>44489809>It's an outlet, rare is the repper who can just completely disengage from it even if it hurts to see others being happy.You people do things in extremes. Yes, I do envy women and passoids. Yes, I am afraid and I do things I don't want to because I'm afraid. But that's not the whole picture. It's just the bad side.
>>44490147>Jax mentioned kids arent supposed to be on 4chan bub
>>44490147You're young. When you're an experienced repper like me you will look back and realize that I was right.
>>44490187I'm 26 years old. I'm going to be 27 soon. I've already almost made it. >>44490172>kids arent supposed to be on 4chan bubI'm also a horsefucker and big undertale fan and like many other things, so I don't think enjoying the first 8 episodes of TADC is a problem. Some(actually most) people just like these things even when they get old. The intended audience of TADC wasn't even kids. You'd give me this same garbage 15 years ago if I said I watched anime, so chill out.
>>44490462>I've already almost made it.You still think you can 'graduate' out of having GD? I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't happen, ever. This is going to be your cross to bear forever.
>>44490462>I'm going to be 27 soonyou need to troon out NOW
>>44490473>You still think you can 'graduate' out of having GD?How do you know it can't happen? Things have only gotten better for me since I started repping creatively rather than just reactively. >>44490612>you need to troon out NOWI also "need" to get a job and I "need" to get a wife and I "need" all these things to be qualified enough to breath air. The truth is I only really need the appearance of those things. I don't actually need any of it. You've gone and put reality on a pedistal and see it as some kind of ideal. You think you should be like a woman because you are a woman. I don't. My opinion has become this: If you're not living a lie, then you're lying about living. Ask any competitive Pokemon player what the best Pikachu variant is. I can gurentee they won't say "Pikachu."
there's nothing wrong about repping. I know I will never be a woman, I know I will never pass, no matter what I do and I'm old already. I want to focus onto things that matter and bring me joy (climbing rocks, crossing rivers, hiking) instead of thinking of what could my life have been if I was born a female. I probably would not be having these thoughts if I was a normal male with an average height and very social. I am half responsible for my misery, I could try to find friends and start meaningful relationships. Finding girl is on a whole another level though, there are thingsnwhich sadly prevent me from getting girls, but I will accept it. I don't want to be a hon, I don't want to lose my job, I don't want to be an annoyance to people, I don't want to get hatecrimed. Big props to trannies for commiting but I won't.
>>44488410do you have discord?