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why are reddit trannies so anti diy?
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Reddit = hons
Twitter = twinkhons
4chan = princessess

It's that simple.
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>>44488201
I'm 26 no HRT am I a princess?
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>>44488207
A prince
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>>44488195
reddit mods are federal agents. r/trans is a huge subreddit too, so it's like a honeypot
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>>44488201
the king exiled me from his territory, so i have no such title. drivel.
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>>44488195
You're supposed to DM the resources idiots.
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>>44488195
prob cause they think they'll get in trouble with the internet police for letting ppl post about it on their sub. also i think most people have this retarded idea that: person is doctor therefore everything they say is correct and taking any drugs without a prescription makes you evil
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>>44488207
A temporarily embarrassed princess
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Hrt is over the counter in the majority of (civilised) countries on earth. Its actually unusual for it be controlled.

Imagine showing deference to people who hate you and want you dead, because the rules are the rules
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>>44488195
a few reaons

1) they themselves started very late and dont like seeing others start earlier

2) (and imo most commonly) theres this like subgroup of people, that is on the surface progressive, but if you look deeper into them then youll see they use words like "problematic" etc in the same way that christians use words like "demonic" etc. Like "xyz is so problematic", it gives off that same kinda feeling when christians would call something demonic. Except here they disguise themselves under a veil of progressivism and being open minded, neither of which they really are. I really hate these kinds of people, mostly ull find them on tumblr and tiktok but also some sneedy subreddits like r/traa r/trans r/mtf r/egg_irl i guess.

3) people who have been misled into believing its actually dangerous by group (2)

Anyways i dont understand the rationale of "its le dangerous!!!!" ... like its not, but even if it was, so what? Lets suppose its dangerous, what then? Literally why should i care? "Male puberty" vs "diy hormones" isnt even remotely a choice id have to think about at all, even if i had a idk 80% chance of dying from diy i would still diy lol, especially if theres no other option
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>>44488951
>Hrt is over the counter in the majority of (civilised) countries on earth
it's literally not, thoughbeit.
Turkey, Thailand, Bosnia, Brazil and... that's about it really.
Sure, there's also places with relaxed enforcement (like Mexico), but it is actually unusual for it NOT to be controlled.
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>>44488969
>"Male puberty" vs "diy hormones"
sorry i meant to say "male puberty" vs "high risk of health complications"
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>>44488971
>Turkey
i remember recently hearing from someone that that's no longer the case
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>>44488971
Pills are on the counter in Chile but no injections, and there's no ways to get your levels checked without an endo
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>>44489007
there's now ways*
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>>44489007
aren't there any private labs where you can get a bloodtest done?
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I think it's good because more reddit hons that talk loudly about diy the more likely it is to get banned. The ones who are afraid of diy are the exact ones who would broadly nuke diy optics so just let them be retarded hons they're doing us a great service
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>>44488201
Reddit = hons
Twitter = twinkhons
4chan = malebrained incels
TikTok = princessess

ftfy
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>>44488969
good analysis. no. 2 subgroup is arguably the worst due to the sheer amount of damage it causes while maintaining a seemingly innocent facade.
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>>44489062
yeah but the ones on tiktok are vapid normies
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Redditors follow the religion of Scientism and worship the scripture of their holy white coated priests. Anything that has not been sanctified by the sacred ritual of the rigged and fraudulent Peer Reviewed Study is as good as snake oil. I went to r/transbreasttimelines for an assessment of my small breast buds I had developed through the use of Pueraria Mirifica (I have since switched to pharmaceuticals); I was slandered as a liar and a charlatan who was peddling useless herbs, though I used a throwaway account and mentioned no brands. The average redditor who is not a lurker or a fed is truly a lost, one dimensional creature
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>>44489062
what about insta and twitter

>>44489150
kek this is the most accurate comment here
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>>44488195
Gislane Maxwell was a reddit mod. Being a miserable hon is preferable to the jews because they make more money off your therapy and surgery, and it makes you a better scapegoat for the jews and their shabbos goy
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>>44488996
i wouldn't be surprised. Erdogan is now suddenly upset that there's too many troons in turkiye and that's kinda unislamic and shit.
the real reason is that turkey is a hub for illicit drug trade of any kind and hrt is caught in the crossfire.
>>44489007
private labs don't do on-demand tests for a fee? that's odd. even here (the EU) that's accepted. Like I never had to tell anyone why I'm have my whoremonal levels checked.
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>>44488195
every day i wish i knew i was trans at a young age and did everything i possibly could have to gotten on estrogen at like the normal age female puberty starts and have never have had significantly high testosterone levels in my life. i think my parents are liberal enough that if i was adamant enough about i could've gotten it but like idk ig just like since i was born it was fact set in stone that i was a boy who will grow up to be a man no matter how i felt about it. and i lowkey hate that it was like normal to not rly like going through puberty lol like i def talked about dreading it and everyone was like "aww noo it's okk, you may be confused about what's happening to your body but you're just a growing boy! :D" like no that was like 9 years of hell that was avoidable. whatever. they say that they were just doing what they thought was best but i did learn to keep my feelings buried deep inside. i know i woulda had my own troubles, not having functioning female reproductive organs woulda been kinda ass and it woulda been a huuge fucking deal but i woulda lived in a much more comfortable body. i hate taking injections every week tho. ideally i woulda been born a girl and i had ovaries that provided my body with estrogen and a vagina i never had to dilate that could also get pregnant, that'd be nice. and i'd have a husband and kids. oh well. instead i live this shit tranny life single working a minimum wage job living in an apartment until i die. what a terrible waste of a life
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>>44489358
>what a terrible waste of a life

They'll look back on us 500 years from now and say "im glad i wasnt alive in 2026"
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>>44489062
Tik Tok= OF Whores

>ftfy
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>>44488195
>anti diy
More like don't want to cause harm to a minor.
You also will end up with criminal charges, if said minor dies or faces health issues.
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>>44489644
We can't let boys be exposed to the same hormones 50% of their peers are exposed to, who knows what it would do
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>>44489718
>who knows what it would do
Diy
Kids are dumb. Substitute an ingredient/process, get disabled, die, or some other unfortunate effect.
They're also minors. Their parents have all the rights over their lives. Get found out by a Karen mother, and you'll turn your own life into a legal nightmare. Appear on the news as ''groomer''.
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>>44489762
Lets all hope you die soon
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>>44488195
Children can't legally consent to "gender-affirming care" because they don't have adult agency and don't understand the lifelong consequences of their decision. A fourteen year-old can't drive a car, vote, buy a gun, own a gun, buy cigarettes, buy alcohol, etc. for the exact same reason. Many such cases.
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>>44489819
Yes they can. Medicine is administered to children all the time
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>>44489819
Children to transition are the only ones who look normal as adults the others look like freaks so for the benefit of those adults that can't understand looking like freaks is going to ruin their life that should be all illegal
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>>44489150
truth fucking supernova. eventually scientism goes so far it loops back to religion in a way
>>44489762
you are retarded
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>>44489762
>you're not allowed to do the right thing or else the slaveowners will call you a groomer
explains more than you know
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>>44489819
>A fourteen year-old can't drive a car
South Dakota, North Dakota, Alaska, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, and Oklahoma do in fact allow just that under certain conditions.
Nearly all of Europe allows 14 year olds to consume alcohol in certain quantities.
Stop assuming your retarded burger "cultural norms" are the norm even in burgerland, let alone other far more civilized countries.
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>>44489819
The fuck are you talking about, I'm suffering under the lifelong consequences of decisions I made as a teenager RIGHT NOW, like the decision to rep.
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>>44489794
Freak.
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>>44489867
>>44489876
Correct.
Not being a criminal is retarded.
It's also akin to being a slave.
Sure.
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>>44488195
>literally asking and admitting to grooming
yikes
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>>44488195
Troons are disgusting groomer freaks, imagine my shock
>>44489829
Necessary medicine, not something that will destroy their genitals for cosmetic effects
>>44489855
>Children to transition are the only ones who look normal as adults
No they won't, just ask Hunter.
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>>44489150
>Pueraria Mirifica
is it even worth to take these non-medical grade estrogen if you want to get slightly more feminized. Please tell me more about it, I beg
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>>44488195
>no of course we aren't trying to give your kids hormones where would you get that idea
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>>44490451
It's better than nothing but really you just need to stop being a coward and find a way to DIY at any cost
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>>44490451
It’s worth trying to dip your toe on n but it doesn’t really compare to the real thing
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>>44490527
>>44490585
what changes can I expect after say 6 months to 1 year?
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>her parents wanted to force her through male puberty
Retarded. Why do people say such things? Parents dont force you to undergo puberty, your body does.
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>>44490207
Hunter started at 15.

Dysphoric youth should be starting basically ASAP. The biggest hurdle is just making sure the diagnosis is correct.
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>>44489883
Not the own you think it is.
Under certain conditions, means heavily restricted and regulated
You want kids to get on titty skittles behind their parents back because Lilith sent them messages discord

You have no place in this world. You are an insane person.
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>>44489819
I consented to having a surgery (not trans related) at 15 and have regret it since then, but I recognize that it was my own fault making that bad decision. I was allowed to do that, and would still be allowed to do that today, but people like you have no problem with it, only with HRT.
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>>44489150
Not defending reddit here but the white coat priests are literally the reason that you knew that Pueraria mirifica contained phytoestrogens that would give you gyno.

Unless you are a consistent practitioner of traditional eastern medicine which I doubt.
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>>44489819
I sure as hell didnt consent to male puberty but I had to go through it anyway
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>>44489062
tiktok has some of the nastiest looking jeeps ive ever seen
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>>44489062
TikTok = prostitutes
FTFY
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>>44490962
I’m not an anti-intellectual by any means, I’ve always been surrounded by people who look at me like I have two heads when I mention what I think to be a commonly known historical or scientific fact. The people who bother me are the aforementioned yards and those who refuse to use their own scientific tools and always always always defer to someone else who has a piece of paper saying that they gained the approval of yet another person/institution
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>>44491423
*tards fucking autocorrect. Science damn you!
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>>44488969
>they use words like "problematic" etc in the same way that christians use words like "demonic"
They're the exact same group of middle aged women that pulled the Satanic Panic in the '80s-'90s. They just switched sides when liberals became the side where it was okay to moralize.
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>>44489062
>Lilytino is a princess
K, and I can't emphasize this enough, YS
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>>44489855
You know what, you're right. Child transition should be illegal because they have no concept of the consequences of their actions, but adult transition should be illegal because it produces hons.
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>>44489883
>enumerates seven states where 14-yearolds can drive under variously restricted circumstances
So there are 43 where it's illegal? Guess what "norm" means, retard.
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>>44488195
Because chuds monitor these places waiting for a reason to shutdown the whole thing.

If you actually care about this person, you DM them the DIY advice so that you don't end up as front page news for the daily Hitler or something.
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>>44491163
>I had to go through it anyway
Sex is the biological reality. Humans don't have gender. Most people grow up with things they don't like and can't change. That's life.
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>>44488195
redditors believe "passing culture" is a result of internalized transphobia and thus wanting to pass is a bad thing
they actively work to create more hons
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>>44491710
The funny part is that most of them are autistic and dysgenic as hell (and any chud who also browses this site is especially so) and if they got the sort of country they want they'd all be involuntarily sterilized at best or executed.
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>>44491423
Gonna say this with absolute love and I'm putting this out there to save not just you any other reader from future embarrassment. So that you might go forth and win all the debates in the future for our cause.

The citation of a "scientific fact" is the number one midwit red flag.

Citing your sources is not about saying yea this is correct because so and so accredited institution did it and so it must be true. Citation is important to establish that the methodology is as it is described. You can still disagree with methodology.

Case 1 - If it is a foundational piece of information then you should still be able to cite an undergrad textbook. For example Maxwell's equations may be the underpinning of all of our modern magic electronical devices, but any reasonable physicist would still cite Jackson's Classical Electrodynamics rather than say yea it's basic EM you dumdum. Scientists have fond attachments to these basic texts. If it's referred to regularly by the author's last name - e.g. Jackson, Stewart, Horowitz and Hill - then it probably bumps.

Case 2 - If it is "modern scientific consensus" then you should be able to cite a systematic literature review or describe your own method of performing a systematic literature review. We live in a golden age of accessibility in literature. Even slamming "Pueraria mirifica" into Google Scholar and reading the abstracts of the five most relevant results with over 100 citations is still better saying yea it's consensus don't ya know.

Case 3 - It is actually okay to just say that you read self-reports from internet users. This is especially relevant in the world of tranny science where 1. clinical trials would be unethical and 2. there are social limitations to the research. This is important to call out due to the biases of the information. For example if DIY HRT caused somebody to have a heart attack and die, we might not ever learn of it.

Case 4 - Learn to ignore midwits on Reddit.

>t. ranny scientist
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i would argue that you should only diy until you find a good doctor to get a solid prescription. having a prescription makes it way easier to have access to needles and refills but diy is better if you are getting hon dosed
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>>44492458
Hey I appreciate you typing all this out, to be clear I’m m not going around being like “um akshually this movie is inaccurate” I mean I might make a joke about the fall of Constantinople or be like oh cool there’s a certain kind of native plant growing here and people will be like huh what are you talking about
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Reddit is only following the rules, recently it was announced transgender medication is no longer allowed for minors. Sad to say but the government doesnt care for trans youth, go to your local communities for support, socially transition without hrt, Estrogen doesnt make you more of a woman. Only the most strongest Tranners will survive this new era. Help one another, wherever you can.
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>>44493035
>socially transition without hrt, Estrogen doesnt make you more of a woman

Just like what those anons above said, what a joke
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>>44489829
NTA but that’s not exactly right. Most of the time it’s really the parents who are providing the (legal) consent. Minors can’t generally provide informed consent by themselves in the medical context.

I support minors access to treatment, but permitting it in the absence of adult guardian consent would be in fact an outlier.
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>>44493366
>but permitting it in the absence of adult guardian consent would be in fact an outlier.

Then hrt will have to be an outlier. Most parents are borderline abusive to trans children, with some physically torturing their own children.

Parents are often the first lesson trans people learn that the world is fundamentally hostile and spiteful
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>>44488951
Literally the only countries where it's over the counter are third world shitholes like Brazil
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>>44493401
You may be right about HRT needing to be an outlier—I just wanted to set the record straight. I see that kind of claim about consent and medical treatment made on here all the time, and it’s just not true. There’s some real unfortunate cases about deaf parents refusing cochlear implants for their kids, or Jehovah’s Witness parents refusing blood transfusions for their kids. So it kind of drives me crazy when I see us talking about minors not getting access to HRT like it’s a completely unprecedented thing that is only happening because of transphobia. It’s part of a much larger—and longstanding—debate about minors and medical autonomy. Not everything is exclusively about us.
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>>44493242
Tell that to the femboys who manage to mog trans women without hrt.
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>>44492885
As someone with a mild amount of experience in botany this actually does weird me out in movies. When you can identify the location they shot it based on the native plants.

I do appreciate that this was kind of subverted in Interstellar when they grew corn in the Canadian Rockies.
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>>44493621
I hate to break this to you, but almost all femboys are taking HRT at this point, secretly or not. It's just too convenient to delay twinkdeath, if nothing else.
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>>44488195
It's an overcorrection of the iwnbaw attitude. They go so far in the other direction that they believe a manly troon with a beard who just realized she was a troon and her dysphoria is why she wants to kill herself 24/7 doesn't need to do a thing to look more like a real woman cuz to them, social presentation and hormones don't matter in the slightest as to whether anyone is a troon and it's all just labels. So they think it's unnecessary and they didn't bother to educate themselves on dysphoria, so they just regurgitate the same slop that normies speak about how hormones are risky.
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>>44493680
Cope, Plenty of Femme gay men dont need hrt to look like women. Hrt doesnt even help trans women at times, your boobs dont always grow that big.
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>>44493621
>take estrogen early
>label oneself X and not Y
>"X mogs Y"

As other anon said, everyone on estrogen. Remember when people would lie, say they never revised for exams but secretly they did, and aced the test, same thing.

Labels mean nothing, passing matters 2nd Q most
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>>44493642
>Interstellar
A drama sbout farmers, finally
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>>44488195
You do realize if the red masses woke up to the fact that anyone can just buy diy hrt online there would be massive crackdowns. It is inevitable that fox news will find out, but it would be best to try and delay that for as long as possible. In such a visible sub that information should definately be sent in dms.
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>>44488195
because they're normiebrained, and those groups have waves, WAVES of internalized transphobia as normies can't really introspect.

i've been saying this but reddit/twitter users are all at best failed normies or normies that use the internet too much. they can't suffice actual independent thought. this is the only answer imo that explains the crux of the issue, i could explain it more thoroughly but its best to keep it short here

>>44488212
also this. thoughever i mean call me a schizo (for acknowledging culture exists lole) but nowadays it's one and the same, the entire sphere is contaminated enough that everywhere is a little poisoned objectively; people for whatever reason struggle to realize that feds directly poisoning that place changes anything. you poison the whole river, not one part. anyone who acts like a fed IS a fed by principle of acting like a fed, therefor much of this goes without saying
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>>44488212
they don't have to be, people are used to being influenced by feds and have no problem acting like them. scrubbing away all the lefty wrong think and creating an astroturfed social experiment of a sanitarium where all the conversation has incredibly pedantic distracting differences but all convey the exact same idea in whole isn't state influence, it's just whatever the nice agent would do whenever their home town had problems, and now what they do whenever they have problems.



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