>>44497024
If those glasses hit the sunlight he'll start a forest fire.

they deserve respect and part of that respect is being honest to them about their appearance. using white lies to try and make yourself feel better because you saw somehon dooming is psychotic.

>>44497024
>the laugh responses
There's still hope in this world.

>>44497024
It is better to have tried to pass and failed, than to never have tried at all.

>>44497024
This culture of overconfidence and complimentary gaslighting is one of the biggest problems with the trans community, one which is compounded by how easily alternatives devolve into bullying.

>>44497036
this is really the key. can a hon accept that she's a hon enough to do something about it? or is she going to give into the delulu 'im so hecking valid and i dont even need to feminine to be a woman' psyop.
at least boymode until you can afford to pass.

>>44497042
sadly that's playing with fire. all it takes is one transphobe with his transphobic friends and you get lynched.

>>44497044
why is it like this? it was never like this in the early days of transitioning?
i think it's bc ppl have the idea that being a trans woman is an online thing.
of course you can say 'fuck the bigots' so boldly behind a screen.
the reality of saying 'fuck you' to a bigot in real life is delusional.
are they that blind to our status in society?

sorry im autistic and my english is bad.
>why is it like this? it was never like this in the early days of transitioning?
i meant in the 80's. obviously a person wouldn't have been 'stunning and brave' and 'visibly trans' then, right? the eldertrans worked HARD to pass, if that was even possible at the time.

>>44497036
that's really well said. wish everybody in trans spaces understood that

>>44497024
>>44497044
I hate that the only solution we've come up with to improve optics for trans people is to bully people who are obviously severely mentally ill or just unfortunately ugly off the internet. And I really hate that it honestly does seem like the best option to me. Any minority community that wants to survive and be taken seriously by broader society in the social media era as a rule *cannot* be kind and tolerant. Because savvy propagandists will always amplify every single embarrassment in the group to convince the slack-jawed idle masses that this group is therefore an acceptable target for their hate. But it's not even clear if endlessly purging our own would even make a difference in the end, they can always find more excuses to hate.

It makes me wonder if the civil rights movement would have ever gotten the broad popular support it needed to succeed if the racists back then had the reach they do today.

>>44497163
for the reppers sake this community needs to gatekeep more to prevent opticnvkes

>>44497024
She clearly has down syndrome. I don't think you need to shit on her more. Just let her transistion to an ugly girl. But that's the key. She need to actually transistion beyond just the supposed social aspect.

>>44497024
i'm glad i got to watch ts before the sneeds killed it

>>44497163
>It makes me wonder if the civil rights movement would have ever gotten the broad popular support it needed to succeed if the racists back then had the reach they do today
it is quite unfortunate that the "racists" (really just normal people who were right about everything) did NOT have the reach they do today.
the "civil rights" was outright evil. and the civil rights act is codified evil. it destroyed the lives of tens of millions of people and the liberty of hundreds of millions.

>>44497343
people like him can take as much E as they want it wont make him any less of a guy

>>44497371
oh yes and it's totally your right as a business owner to make a "no nonwhites allowed" coffee shop cuz muh bizness FREEEEEEEEEEDOM

>>44497427
yes, unironically.

>>44497386
>people like him
What does this mean? Are invalidating all transwomen? Or just the ugly ones? Me personally feel that if they embody their woman hood then at least they can soul pass. Which even alotta bimbo troons can't do.

>>44497343
shitting on her?
i think ur the person with down syndrome.
telling the truth is not a stupid thing to do, it's actually the right thing to do, especially to someone non passing. i advocate for her, telling her that she needs to put effort in to pass. delulu hons tell lies and say she is valid enough already. if you genuinely think that i am shitting on someone for telling the truth about how visibly trans they are, you need to step outside and get a reality check and understand how stupid what you said was.
have you ever gone out in honmode full of egg_irl delulu and get harrased by teenagers? i have. i consider it a rite of passage. im never doing that again.

>>44497449
the national guard should've shot you tards in the head honestly

>>44497462
soul pass? so you mean just be seen as a very effeminate man with tits. is that going to end up well for anyone? all it takes is a single transphobe and his friends and you get lynched.
pass, or pass away.
this is why i say, boymode until malefail.
never go out being visibly trans like real life is Xitter.

>>44497495
now think about black only businesses and observe the mental gymnastics you fall into

>>44497462
I'm sure that guy woke up every day struggling with the fact that they're a horrendus ugly male. Oh wait.

>>44497509
>buh buh buh why isn't there a WHITE history month, huh??

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>>44497540
pottery

>>44497462
>Are invalidating all transwomen? Or just the ugly ones?
Just the non-passoids. Look you be ugly and pass, you can't NOT pass and be recognized as your desired gender

>>44497614
>pass
>look good

if you have zero just kys tbqhsenpai. think of the colony

>>44497638
Looking good and not passing is worse than being fugly and not passing, but yes non-passoids should seriously kill themselves

>>44497614
So how do you know they won't pass just based on one photo, most likely before E? Are you casting judgement because they are ugly? Plenty of uggos in the world that live happy unassuming lives. I do agree that hugboxxing and giving a peraon like this toomuch attention is just setting up someone to fail or worse become a lolcow

>>44497707
The complete lack of self awareness they have by posting a picture of themselves as trans with absolutely 0 effort to feminize themselves?
>no make up
>facial hair
>eyebrows are a mess
>masc clothing
>masc hair
They are anything but a moid. I have seen plenty of cis gay man cross dress better than them. They have 0 will power to put effort and are honestky damaging to trans issues, so yeah, kys is the only option

>>44497991
>damaging to trans issues
Yeah cause one down syndrome uggo with a Jax plushie is really killing the optics. Lmao! I'd say your sociopathic take is more damaging. My lord repping and self harm fried your brain, no?
Sweaty, normies already have their pitchforks out. She doesn't matter. Leave her be. You cope and seethe too much. And it makes you deathly afraid to live and let live. Lost in the sauce are we not. Idgaf I'm willing to let her have a chance over you. You likely to wig out a murder-suicide some people. She's like to be ugly and play pikmin. Who's the the real threat here?

>>44498167
>Yeah cause one down syndrome uggo with a Jax plushie is really killing the optics.
"One"

>>44498231
Oh? You think a million will do it? How bout 2? 10?! 10 million ugly down syndrome troons will kill optics. Yep ya got me. You're right 10 million downy tools. Thats what have everyone up in arms. Not the reddit hons grooming kids or polycule trannies killing toddlers or stockpiling their cults for terrorist attacks. Its the ugly disabled troons. You are fucking retarded Nona. Your brain is fried because all you see is ugly troon=bad because my 4chins taught me that myself harm=? (Honestly I doubtyou have any virtue so I'll leave that blank). Is she ugly? Yes. Should she be hugboxxed? Fuck no. Does she deserve to troon? Idk Nona and idgaf. If she's an adult let her do whatever the fuck she wants and feels will help her self actualize.

>>44497044
That might be true, but I don't have the heart tell someone to rep especially when half the time it's:
>hey, I have GD and I'm 6'6" with a 40 inch bideltoid, should I transition? If I don't transition I'll shoot myself thanks
And also because that same logic can be applied by a youngshit to someone like me (midshit), that I should rep because it's a bad look or something

I am of the opinion that people can do whatever they want with their body and that all people should be freely able to take any hormones they want.

Estrogen is good for you, even if you don’t want to / can’t fully pass, you should be allowed to take estrogen.

>>44498486
nobody is saying otherwise but surely anon you are reasonable enough to see that being visibly trans and calling yourself a woman is a one way ticket to being hatecrimed to death?
are we pretending that is acceptable social behaviour>?

>>44497024
this is the face i think of whenever i see anyone tell me they like digital circus

>>44498529
Yeah I mean I just call myself a man moder / cis man on HRT. Saying ur a woman and asking for female privilege is going to get everyone hating on you if you don’t pass.

I just hope I don’t get hate crimed in man mode, nothing so far.

>>44498419
It's for the best to tell them to rep and fuck off, they will be severely more depressed for trying AND monumentally failing than for being simply told "no ma'am"
Let's face it nobody but gaslighters will accept them without mocking them behind their backs
>but we could overpolice them!
Which will make everybody hate transpeople more

You cannot literally gaslight someone into success

>>44498589
They should HRT rep, not just rep. No one should be denied HRT.

>>44498600
Sure, you are right. Just please tell them tu but an effort rather than just taking pills, then they can be themselves

>>44498632
To put an effort

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>>44498600
HRT repping seems reasonable, their body will be changing in a way they like instead of male aging.
I honestly don't think that transphobia is even that correlated to # of hons, even if 99% of trans women passed the media would just make hay out of the 1% that didn't. We are a fringe enough category that most people haven't met one of us. Like we could all be Hunter Schafer's and Fox news would be showing Chris Chan.
My concern is people's happiness, and the social role society will allow you in is a big element of that. But at the same time I think that someone that passes in all ways but just has 1 bad trait like height, people will gender them female.