Trooned for the fetish so more or less transmaxxer, desu.
Had SRS in 2022 as a culmination of giving in to the fetish.
Sexually I feel great about it. In the rest of the time I feel neither good nor badly about it. The brain and the body simply adapted to the change and... that's it?
>regrets
The recovery sucked. The new techniques have eliminated a lot of the old problems and diminished the incidence of complications quite a bit, but it's still far from perfect. It's still a high risk surgery.

>>44550142
There's nothing to regret. I was never going to use my penis anyways and now that I have a (neo)vagina I get sex from men basically daily. I memed myself into believing I had dysphoria about the penis as a way to convince myself to just do it. It definitely feels a little surreal what I've done to myself though.

>>44551199
>memed myself into believing I had dysphoria about the penis as a way to convince myself to just do it
based
but why tho?

>>44551364
I never wanted to top anyone or be asked to top anyone ever again, and I wanted to be penetrated but I hate anal.
I was also (and still am to a lesser extent) deeply insecure about being a tranny rather than a cis woman so SRS at least brought me further away physically from being a man.

>>44551384
>never wanted to top anyone or be asked to top anyone ever again, and I wanted to be penetrated but I hate anal
that's literally the best reason to get SRS, very much unironically.
>SRS at least brought me further away physically from being a man
second best reason, but that's controversial these days.
i'm not insecure, but i get it.
it is surreal tho that i now get to have the life of a perfectly average cis woman. hope you enjoy it too.

is it just me or is everyone responding here obviously dysphoric

>>44551632
Why do you say that?

>>44552185
because all the girls in here are talking about how they don't want to have a penis

>>44552244
There's quite a difference between "I think I'd prefer to have a vagina" and "my penis makes me want to kms I want to get it removed ASAP or I might just do it myself with scissors".
A lot of people don't consider the former to be dysphoria.

>>44550142
>>44550258
I hate my penis but I'm scared of srs complications so I'm considering nullo. Is my fear unfounded?

>>44550142
i want to have SRS as a tranny with no bottom dysphoria, but the surgery isnt worth it yet, at least for me
>>44551632
people on this board are dumb and love the attention
>>44552900
any combination other than "im positive towards my penis and negative towards a vagina on myself" is some degree of dysphoria

>>44553073
These "I'm waiting for Star Trek before I have SRS rather than admit I'm indecisive and more risk-averse than dysphoric" niggas are gonna be fascinating to see in 20 years when they're all middle aged or older and are still mumbling "I'm still waiting for womb transplants, it's too risky" and haven't enjoyed intimacy their whole life

>>44554423
>"I'm waiting for Star Trek before I have SRS rather than admit I'm indecisive and more risk-averse than dysphoric"
im not like that

>>44554483
NTA
It's just the mindset we see from a lot of non-ops in these kinds of threads.
Do you have any particular hangups on srs Nona?

>>44551384
idk sounds barely like memeing yourself to dysphoria rather than just... dysphoria

>>44554423
that's me, i'm an idiot, it's k i'm only 30 and gonna get it now after 10 yrs of transition

I've been getting more bottom dysphoria the further into transition I get, I hope I can afford it someday.

>>44553046
>Is my fear unfounded?
short answer: yes
PPT has a very low complication rate and it's a way better choice than nullo

>>44555008
to summarize
im not waiting for a literal cis vagina. i dont like colon, jejunum or PI, but im fine with peritoneal SRS. wittenberg is the only option i know, but she is inconsistent and genuinely dangerous. every surgeon that doesnt end up using the penile/scrotal skin for the vaginal canal should be able to replicate littletons aesthetic, but they dont

>>44555417
>but im fine with peritoneal SRS
nta but robot-assisted PPT now exists. maybe not in the US but it exists in Europe, Korea and likely Thailand.
though by now it probably became available in the US as well.

>>44555646
they are all hybrid PI-PPV

>>44555707
not true. full PPT does not use penile/scrotal skin for the vaginal canal. hybrid PPT does.

>>44555743
i know, but who is offering full PPT?

>>44555818
There are two clinics in Spain that offer it.
I had it at one of them in 2023.

>>44551384
>>44551438
Fuck this is me too. I want to get topped but hate anal. I know SRS is in my future but I don’t want to think about it rn.

>>44555838
names?

>>44555891
Instituto Jesús Lago in Madrid (that's where I went) and Dr. Ivan Manero in Barcelona (that's where a friend of mine went last year).

>>44555914
ty

>>44555852
>I know SRS is in my future but I don’t want to think about it rn.
life is short, nona. i'm still salty that mine got postponed for almost a year. had it in 2022 instead of early 2021.
keep in mind that besides the waitlist, there's also several months of recovery. So it's almost 2 years from the moment you finally make the decision until you get plapped in your srussy.

>>44553073
>any combination other than "im positive towards my penis and negative towards a vagina on myself" is some degree of dysphoria
Eh, I disagree. I think there's a decent amount of cis people who would be able to live with the "incorrect" genitals if they woke up with them tomorrow, unironically.

>>44555127
>idk sounds barely like memeing yourself to dysphoria rather than just... dysphoria
I mean, how is it dysphoria though? Genuinely asking.

>>44555852
The sooner you think about it the sooner you can get what you want. It can take years to get to your SRS date from when you start looking. Best to do it now so you can enjoy your life and intimacy in the body you prefer while you're still young. I'm really glad I got to experience intimacy with the body I prefer when I was still in my 20s.

>>44556480
>there's a decent amount of cis people who would be able to live with the "incorrect" genitals if they woke up with them tomorrow, unironically
this is likely true, tho impossible to test.
i remember before SRS thinking that since i trooned basically for the fetish, what if i'll struggle with having an srussy in the rest of the time, like day to day life.
took about 3 weeks for my brain to get used to it. by the time I was done with the recovery and back to relatively normal life, it wasn't even an afterthought that I didn't have a dick anymore.

>>44553046
Why not get full SRS and just become nullo if you have complications? Better to take the risk to achieve your happiness when the alternative isn't any worse than the risk failing.

>>44550142
I'm a transmaxxer and I'm on an SRS waitlist.
This will be... an experience, heh.

>>44557508
>this is likely true, tho impossible to test.
there are some studies on people that had SRS when they were children for multiple reasons, but thats about it and it's not high quality. it doesnt seem to be true

>>44557567
>This will be... an experience, heh.
You'll probably just be extremely happy when it's done, like most trannies are. I remember being super relieved and in a great mood when I woke up, though that was probably partially due to the drugs lol
>t. pragmatist non-dysphoric SRSoid

>>44557508
>>44557622
If you're thinking of the study I'm remembering, it was something like 2/3 of people forcibly given SRS because of botched circumcision as infants ended up living their lives as women even into adulthood. The other 3rd transitioned or lived as men without a penis.
I think gender is sometimes very malleable, and there's something like a "gender sensitivity" level built into our genetics. Likely all dysphoric trannies have a high level of that sensitivity and also have the unfortunate circumstance of under-virilized brains.

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>>44550142
I am extremely dysphoric over having a dick, and wish I could afford srs.

>>44557752
>pic
Are you a chud too?

>>44557705
>I remember being super relieved and in a great mood when I woke up
it's not the immediate moments after waking up that i'm concerned with. Nor much about long term. It's the recovery period. Every srsoid I talked with IRL, regardless of whether they advised me to go through with it or not, described the first few months as... less than thrilling, let's put it this way.
Long term, if I don't have any complications, I'm reasonably certain I'll be at least content.
And since i'm married, i'll probably handle the dilation regimen quite easily, lol.
>t. pragmatist non-dysphoric SRSoid
Sounds like trannymaxxer to me, lol.
How's sex? How was the recovery?
>>44557508
>SRS thinking that since i trooned basically for the fetish
nta but same q: how's sex? how was the recovery?

>>44557780
I am a chud who self psyoped himself into thinking he's gender dysphoric.

>>44557820
nta but,... get feminized?
t. literally stadium hooligan who trooned

>>44557848
>get feminized
Soon perhaps, but for now I am repping.

>>44557705
>If you're thinking of the study I'm remembering, it was something like 2/3 of people forcibly given SRS because of botched circumcision as infants ended up living their lives as women even into adulthood. The other 3rd transitioned or lived as men without a penis.
do you have the link? in the ones that ive read, usually more than half of the subjects detransition, and it includes many other causes other than botched circumcisions that can affect the findings (intersex conditions)
>I think gender is sometimes very malleable, and there's something like a "gender sensitivity" level built into our genetics. Likely all dysphoric trannies have a high level of that sensitivity and also have the unfortunate circumstance of under-virilized brains.
it's quite simple. exposure to androgens in the utero causes male identity and the lack of androgens causes female identity. once you are born, it's locked

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>>44557802
>And since i'm married, i'll probably handle the dilation regimen quite easily, lol.
As long as you have that and some good pain medication you should be fine. One of the hardest parts of the recovery is loneliness so it's good you have a caring partner already. I'll never ever look down on anyone who transitions to escape inceldom (not saying you did that, just a random thought) because having a caring partner really is one of the best things in the world.
>How was the recovery?
The everyday pain was mild for about half a month before going away entirely. I was on morphine for the first week though since my anti-depressant contraindicated the usual pain medication tramadol, so I probably had an unusually easy time with that period. It was annoying to have to ignore the stitches and let them do their thing and fall out on their own, and a little scary to clean it in the shower the first couple weeks since I worried about breaking something. The cleaning, douching, and epidermal cream application was very tedious in hindsight. (To be clear I don't need to douche anymore, not even after getting cummed in frequently).
Dilation was painless at first because it was all numb down there, but got increasingly more painful peaking at around month 3 or 4. The pain was mostly from granulation in the canal which is kind of like a sore on the tissue so pushing the acrylic dilator in and then moving it hurt quite a lot at times. Granulation was completely gone by around month 7 and dilation became pretty easy after that. It was very time consuming though so you should make sure you have plenty to read/watch/listen to on your phone while you do it.
I had only very minor complications in my primary and revision, but I met a few girls there who had more major complications. The rate was probably 9 easier recoveries for every 1 moderate complication. The revision was honestly a more brutal surgery desu because it's done while conscious. Pretty painful desu.

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>>44550142
Rub-a-dub-dub-dub three men in a tub
but one has a pussy

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>>44557802
>>44559166
>How's sex?
It feels really, truly amazing, but I'll still try not to sugarcoat anything for you either. The two main sensations I feel with my srsussy are the spreading apart of tissue in the pelvic region when he thrusts into me, and stimulation of the clitoris and chon (Suporn method). The spreading of the canal feels good in general since I've always liked penetration and being filled, hated anal but love oral. It's such an amazingly intimate and loving feeling to have your lover in you, just typing this is making me blush and consider waking him up for some plappies... It also feels good to be spread because it does hit the prostate at the right angles (which anal couldn't do anymore, mine shrunk so much from HRT). It also feels good because there is a small amount of erectile tissue behind the vulva "wall" that is left there to homogolize as inner clitoral tissue. It feels like he's stretching your aroused/hard clitoral "wings" out with each thrust which contributes even more to the filling feeling. I think this is what makes the initial penetration during sex feel the best.
The clitoral & chon stimulation is probably easier to explain. They are literal glans tissue moved and reshaped, so touching them feels just like how it probably does for you pre-op. It is a lot easier for me to masturbate now because they are firmly locked in place, whereas pre-op I was soft as an overcooked noodle and basically could not stimulate it at all. During sex there's a mild amount of clitoral stimulation, and a moderate amount in the chon organ. I've found that depending on how I angle my hips as he's fucking me I can vary the sensation from the thrusts quite a lot. Missionary is the absolute best position for this and wrapping my legs while raising my thighs up gives the best sensations on the clit from his thrusts. I've always involuntary moaned from penetration but getting that level of stimulation brings it to a whole new level of volume lol.

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>>44552900

The whole suicideality nonsense was invented to filter most people from transitioning.

It makes no sense. Being suicidal is performative anyways. It reflects a very 1970's view of psychology.

Most people who feel suicidal CAN'T kill themselves and most people are aware of this. So it's a handy way of denying trannies treatment. Until they figure out they need to be suicidal to get treatment that is.

The whole framework is obsolete. Informed consent is the only reasonable standard.

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>>44557802
>>44559231
Admittedly I have not climaxed during penetration yet but I think this is more to do with my own neurology than a SRS drawback itself, plus it's not like most cis women can either. I know other Suporn girls who can do it just fine. It's fairly easy to orgasm though from my own fingers, vibrators, dildos, or from him fingering me. I probably climax about half of the time during sex. I honestly find it kind of hot and a little fulfilling when he creampies me and the sex completely stops after that, and I feel a little frustration in my genitalia and a strong craving to get ravished again later that day to complete the deed... Feels like there's a biological link drawing me to him like a magnet all day when he purposefully leaves me frustrated (with consent). I've also leaned a little bit into the masochism and service side of things lately and being used as a cum rag by the guy I love and am sexually attracted to really gets me going and feeling fulfilled.
I'll list a couple downsides since I promised to be honest. My vaginal canal is objectively not very sensate even years later. I don't get much sensation unless I use an oversized dildo or something that stretches the canal diameter a good amount. This is probably a drawback with any method using peritoneal tissue. I had a revision who added a hood, which made it a little harder to orgasm. But as mentioned above I don't mind and it made my vulva prettier which I like. I really like being pretty for him down there which I feel like is something SRSoids like me don't talk about often enough. I keep good skincare on the entire area and keep any hair clean shaved or neat and tidy for him.
By the way in addition to all the stuff I described above there's still the other regular sex stuff like kissing and making out, holding hands, him holding my wrists, whispering sweet nothings to each other's ears, cuddling together after, all of which make it really lovely and intimate every time.

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>>44559243
>Most people who feel suicidal CAN'T kill themselves
True in my case, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a step beyond debilitating mentally, crippling even. When I was suicidal I would not do anything except go to work, sometimes eat, and then curl up in a ball on my couch and cry and just unstoppably mentally insult myself over and over and over and mull over ways to throw myself off a bridge. Or, convincing myself again and again that I'm worthless and nothing matters and I'm better off for everyone around me dead rather than alive. It's entirely irrational but so are all mental illnesses. Saying it doesn't matter if it doesn't lead to "real" death from suicide is an incredibly shitty thing to imply.

>>44559166
>not saying you did that
no, but I am saying it.
it was the number 1 reason I started. I had to psyop myself into liking it, but, given the results, I don't need the psyop anymore. Though I've been leaning into mef for 2 years now not just to prep my brain for srs but to also get my brain to accept that being submissive is the only correct way (cringe and masochistic, ik, but our sex life improved a lot).
>dilation
I am very familiar with the regimen. Had it explained to me during the consult as well. I'm sure I'll have it explained again several more times.
>>44559231
>Missionary is the absolute best position
love it as preop too, so this is good news.
>vaginal canal is objectively not very sensate even years later. I don't get much sensation unless I use an oversized dildo or something that stretches the canal diameter a good amount. This is probably a drawback with any method using peritoneal tissue
I wonder if I can work around that by just letting the canal shrink on the size of my husband. I'll be having full PPT, for reference.
>hood; cosmetics
I'll think about that.
I'll probably want that too at some point for the simple reason that as a trannymaxxer I want to pass naked and without make-up.
> really like being pretty for him down there which I feel like is something SRSoids like me don't talk about often enough
i don't need to be convinced on that front.
since trannymaxxing has worked out so well for me, of course i'd better be the best woman i can possibly be for my husband.
thanks for the info. it's still surreal that I'm actually doing this, lol.

>>44559471
>but to also get my brain to accept that being submissive is the only correct way
Was this hard to do? Like, did you desire to top occasionally at first?
>I'm sure I'll have it explained again several more times.
It's probably worth asking them if they'll be able to give you pain medication for if dilation becomes unbearable because of the pain. I haven't heard that it's really painful for PPT patients but I also heard Suporn was the most painful but it wasn't bad for me, so I tend to not believe anyone anymore on that stuff.

>>44559471
>I wonder if I can work around that by just letting the canal shrink on the size of my husband.
Maybe. I'm wanting to do the same thing once I'm married but I don't want to risk that yet until I am. Got really lucky with my depth from surgery so I want to cherish that.
>I want to pass naked and without make-up.
I mean it's not something you see unless you're like, sitting open legged with your labia parted or something. But it did look weird to be able to see the clitoris so easily during dilation. Looks a lot more normal now that the revision is done and healed. And to reiterate I do kind of like that it makes my clitoris harder to reach but more sensate. Feels like it matches my role as a woman and as a submissive in sex much better than being a coomer that has to coom every time...
>it's still surreal that I'm actually doing this, lol.
It gets even more surreal as you get closer to it, especially when you're laying on the operating room chair and giving them your final consent to do it before they put you under...
Don't let that surreal aspect discourage you from getting what you want though, Nona. Being a tranny wife with a pussy is kinda the ideal for a lot of people, hopefully I get there some day too lol.

>>44551199
Yk I don't know if I have dysphoria, or not. I was so bullied to an extreme degree I had a nervous breakdown I've never been the same since

I’m down to get SRS but first I need to experience fucking pussy with my dick since I’ve never done that lmao

>>44560151
It's hotter if you never experience it and get SRS anyways, reinforcing that you were never going to succeed as a man anyways.
>t. srsoid who's never touched a woman and only been fucked by men

>>44560165
Oh and I never got my sperm frozen. Wouldn’t I need to get off HRT for 4 months to get sperm frozen?

>there are trannies that cut off their balls or got SRS before freezing sperm : |

>>44560177
Yeah, if not longer depending on how long ago you got on HRT.

>>44555743
is there a reason to not get hybrid?
incidentally, robot-assisted ppt does exist in the US and i am undergoing it next year

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>>44550142
>How do you feel about it?
didnt have much dysphoria, just was frustrated at pre op dating situation as im hsts. for me it surprisingly didnt feel like a big change, it didnt feel like it 'saved me' nor was a 'mistake'. i just generally feel much calmer knowing i dont have to hide my genitals anymore, i dont feel hyper aware of them anymore, feel great about wearing panties or swimsuit and seeing no bulge at all, feel calmer not worrying if i stop hrt ill be force transitioned into man against my will, dating is already much easier and i feel less fear of men reacting poorly or aggressively towards me, feel much better that my dating pool is consisting of less dysfunctional men as well. as for cons, recovery sucks and im still in it, but so far my experience is matching this anon >>44559166 also i think pussy smell is gross. maybe when my ph balance is better itll smell less musky. it feels like more of a direct chore to have to clean and take care of it all the time, and im still having to wear panty liners so far despite all my bleeding stopping a bit ago. it is cute shaving it and having a cute lil kitty, feels great knowing it has this power over men xD feel a bit more dysphoric though knowing i cant get pregnant, getting srs you have this new access to being perceived fully as a woman, and i ignorantly didnt realize how much sex revolves around childbirth until now when a guy is worried about cumming inside if i get pregnant, asking if im on the pill, etc etc. all this exposure to these new inquiries feels sad to me knowing i cant, and i struggle at having the emotional strength to firmly voice that to a man. also playing with my clit feels good, i already orgasm from masturbation whenever im in the mood

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>>44550142
>Any regrets?
desu if i could have lived in a world where normal hot straight men would have dated me if i have a dick i maybe would, but estrogens effects on dick made it not really ideal for fucking a dudes ass. im really into guys ass and want to peg but i know its not the same. i regret not fucking a dudes ass as a gay boy, but being pre op i wasnt willing to mentally undergo a detransition just to experience it. but desu regardless of if its amplified due to trauma im realllyy into straight guys, and knowing i have things like breasts, fat ass, and now a kitty to please my man it satisfies something deep in my soul, which makes me not feel regretful at all. i love so much seeing him satisfied and happy, and knowing my body can now fully give that to him. i love so much knowing how much a boyfriend wants my kitty, love how it manipulates a guys brain.

>>44557705
>something like 2/3 of people forcibly given SRS because of botched circumcision as infants ended up living their lives as women even into adulthood
i suspect at the time of the study way upwards of 2/3 of tranners live as their birth sex

>>44560342
idk i had hybrid and no real issues that aren't self-inflicted by the idiot medical system mostly ignoring my gynecological needs. i can't see the difference in the skin between the peritoneal portion and the penis portion with a speculum and a mirror and it has been described as healthy and without scar tissue by my doctors...
i definitely wouldn't avoid getting srs because i've decided i require full ppt

>>44560485
i'm not even certain i understand what a "full" ppt is; where does all the other tissue go?

>>44560502
maybe the labia can be prettier but also mostly in the trash can
there's some argument about it being the right kind of tissue or whatever but i have good bacteria and you can see what i said above so idk

>>44557752
Move someplace were it's free?

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im a prude that can't deal with thought of piercings... not even ears...

if i had the get uterus button 100% though.

I'm kinda curious how i'd feel if someone entirely sedated me for like a few weeks and did it without my prior consent. I'd probably be fine with it after lmao.

>>44551384
Oh shit this might just be me lol. I hate topping, always have hated topping even when I was a "cis guy" and dating girls that were way out of my league. Thought I was ace for a minute but came to find out I'm just a switch who leans bottom. I will top for my gf because she's a strict bottom but I could do that more effectively with a strap these days. And I love bottoming but anal makes me uncomfortable

Otherwise im not too dysphoric about my junk. It would be nice to have it out of the way when wearing tighter outfits though. Maybe i'm destined to get srs ig but it scares me

>>44561377
>if someone entirely sedated me for like a few weeks and did it without my prior consent. I'd probably be fine with it after lmao.
That's kinda how it happens though. You get sedated and then you wake up 5-7 hours later with a vagina. With your prior consent though obviously.

>>44561413
Sounds less like a "destined" thing for you than a "it'll happen if I decide I want it" kind of thing, Nona.

>>44560431
>feel a bit more dysphoric though knowing i cant get pregnant, getting srs you have this new access to being perceived fully as a woman, and i ignorantly didnt realize how much sex revolves around childbirth until now
Relatable. For me it was similar to how once I passed, suddenly it became much more bothersome to have a penis. It was like a veil was lifted and I could see the pain of having the wrong genitals now that the pain of not perceiving myself as a woman in the mirror was gone. Now that I have a vagina it feels weird to know it's not connected to a uterus. It feels weird that it never bleeds. I cycle my hormones monthly but I never get cramps in my non-existent uterus (I think periodhons are full of shit btw); feels like I'm cheating and get a lot of the positives of femaleness without a major drawback and it's a little alienating.

On the bright side it's become much easier to view myself as an infertile/sterile woman rather than as a male. I can't get pregnant because I don't have a uterus, like any other cis woman that doesn't have one for whatever reason. If I had a uterus from a lab grown transplant or something I could probably carry a child, and there's a pensive comfort knowing that.

>>44561933
i meant i don't want it.

>>44561987
Must be nice

Bunp

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>>44561377
i mean the anesthetic makes you feel loopy for months, i feel like i didnt have my 100% normal processing back until around month 4 or 5. i mean you are able to function way before that, but the whole process feels very dream like.

>>44561933
>On the bright side it's become much easier to view myself as an infertile/sterile woman rather than as a male. I can't get pregnant because I don't have a uterus, like any other cis woman that doesn't have one for whatever reason.
yea thats exactly how i deal with it as well. every woman will deal with infertility at some point in their lives, just some younger than others. it's difficult though, for most girls theres treatments and hope for a possibility of pregnancy, but for us its the same as woman who had a hysterectomy. i dont even have the heart to firmly tell guys im with theres 0 chance, and when i kinda do they always say some shit like "well let me try" like they really believe their sperm can be the one that changes it and i cant bring myself to change that narrative. im sure when i settle down with a guy he'll know all about me and it will be fine, but casual dating sure does feel alienating.

>>44564533
and I mean that i literally never wanted it and I was Only hypothesizing if it were done against my will.

>>44561377
i got my ears done after srs actually. i was scared to do anything permanent but i also really hated my pp. then one day i was just like i think this girl thing has gone too far and i might as well do the ears
>>44561933
i've had lots of trouble with unexplained cramps since i started hrt. idk i can come up with possible explanations involving the bladder or intestines or estrogen and pelvic muscles but nothing is really definitive. my bladder and pelvic muscles are all fucked up anyway and i think all that long predates hrt even although i only started seeing doctors about it after srs.
>>44564533
even when they know boys will still make jokes and stuff about getting you pregnant because it's so ingrained into society that like sex makes babies

reading the replies here makes me think that waiting for SRS before having sex or anything like that is a good idea, but I want to get FFS first, then SRS so I can pass naked with short hair and such things
can you get SRS while presenting male or androgynous? or will the surgeon be weirded out?

>>44565954
>can you get SRS while presenting male or androgynous?
Yes.
You can get SRS as long as you fit the bureaucratic/"medical" criteria for it.
t. basically a post-op hrt femboy

>>44566775
that's pretty cool, I think it would be neat to have a vagina desu. I also don't bother with all of the oh I have a woman's soul or whatever, I literally just want the sexual characteristics of cis females

>>44566834
>I have a woman's soul
I know I don't. I'm just a perverted faggot and a body modder, essentially.
>would be neat to have a vagina
Pros: no more anal prep, easier to wear tight clothes, i like how my walking changed/had to change.
Cons: it's a bit higher maintenance than having a dick
>literally just want the sexual characteristics of cis females
hell no!
I like that I don't get periods nor do I run the risk of pregnancy.
I was joking with my husband that if I were to socially transition I'd be an optics nuke not because of physical body (I already get confused for a woman routinely) but because I'd unironically call myself AMAB Female in public, kek.
But anyway, when I had SRS there was one other like me in the saloon. We became acquaintances (still keep in touch) and bonded over making fun of brainwormed trannies.
Point being: reality is a lot more complicated and diverse than the online spaces would show. And extreme body modification (because that's what srs is ultimately) is not even a new thing. Some people put horns or a tail on themselves. Others get a pussy to be plapped easier /shrug

>>44566775
isn't one of the criteria that you are a woman?

never getting srs lol
I would only do it if it were 1:1 with a cis woman's and even then idk

>t. fetishist

>>44566961
>extreme body modification
i hope you hold cis women with vaginal agenesis to this standard

>>44566979
lol, no.
First of all, there are still plenty of places in the world where legal transition (change of name and gender ID) is only allowed once one completes SRS. So such a criterion would basically exclude everyone.
Secondly, if you pay out of pocket (as I did), a lot of the conditions are no longer as rigid. For instance, many insurers ask for a formal diagnosis as a COYA measure so in case you're unhappy with the result they can just say "we just followed the standards of care". But if you pay out of pocket, lots of places in the world are de facto on an informed consent model.
Yeah, if you wanna do what I did it does require a bit of shopping around and some frank discussions, but you'll be surprised how many places in the first world are in fact very accustomed to people like me.
>>44567021
>t. fetishist
mfw I got srs FOR the fetish
>>44567097
vaginal agenesis is 0.02% or less of all women.
i realize trannies like to latch onto absolutely marginal exceptions to justify shit, but ultimately women with vaginal agenesis were always women and will still be women even if they don't get vagina reconstruction surgery. Meanwhile, I've always been a dude and i'm still a dude even though I got srs. And that's FINE, really.
Bodily autonomy is awesome.

>>44567269
okay well i'm not a dude and i'm not going to other myself from other women just to make you feel better

>>44567410
>just to make you feel better
huh? think of yourself as whatever you like, nonny. life's too short to give a damn.
none of this matters that much. heck, i get she/her'd all the time and just don't give af. that was the point of the post: do whatever you enjoy and stop giving af about what others think. literally your body your choice.

>>44567427
>i get she/her
because you are a female person

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>>44565954
>reading the replies here makes me think that waiting for SRS before having sex or anything like that is a good idea,
It might be a good idea, but you should absolutely not lose an opportunity for a romantic connection with someone if it happens to be when you're pre-op. It's hard enough finding a partner as a tranny as it is.

>>44567021
See >>44554423

>>44567269
NTA but wow way to miss the point. Trannies get SRS because they were born without a vagina, just like the women in that anon's example. They aren't an "edge case" any more than SRSoid trannies are. 9 out of 10 vaginoplasties worldwide are done on cis women.
Also nobody cares if you're a cis man with SRS or whatever. Lording your identity over others and pretending to be superior is extremely cringe. Most people get SRS because they despise their penis not for extreme body modding or whatever.

>>44567475
>Lording your identity over others and pretending to be superior is extremely cringe
I did no such thing. Calm your tits. I was answering to anon's curiosity.

>>44567475
me >>44567021
I just don't really like vagina and I never have. Or at least how it looks naked. Like I would still date someone with one, but I would prefer penis. That applies to myself too to an extent. I think penis is just cleaner and nicer to look at generally. I would prefer something small and useless (and untouched outside of maybe frotting or chastity), but still.

The only time I actually want a vagina is sometimes when I am aroused, but not even all the time. I don't know if I would actually go through with srs unless I could try it out beforehand somehow. Even if we did have star trek srs I'd still be afraid that I wouldn't like it and would be stuck that way.

For reference, I felt similarly about breast growth. Although I do like breasts generally, I was really unsure about whether or not I would want them myself despite those being more or less 1:1 cis, and reversible with top surgery. Plus I would say that I wanted them more than I wanted cis genitals. And this was still a major sticking point for me in taking hrt.

SRS has actual downsides, plus it is a major surgery, plus it can be botched, plus the recovery, plus you have to pay a shitload of money (that I don't have) for it.


I AM very indecisive and risk averse though. It took a lot for me to start hrt. Especially because being indecisive about taking hrt made me think that I was faketrans and so shouldn't take hrt. Don't take this to mean that I am not dysphoric or something. I have horrible dysphoria, it's just that I have horrible fear and anxiety too. I would be scared to get any surgery even if I knew 100% that it would make my life better or save me from immediate death.

I am also an incel khhv manmoder so maybe the answer would be different if I had sex or passed or was a normie.

>>44568089
It's sounds like you just don't really want it in general, which is okay. Don't know why you gotta say the surgery itself sucks right now

>>44568959
I didn't even say that, but it does suck.

>>44569733
Why does it suck?

>>44569733
it is the basically te best thing i've ever done for myself it does not really suck

>>44560036
>Was this hard to do?
Easier than I thought it'd be.
>did you desire to top occasionally at first?
Yes. In a way I still do. Which is probably why intentional MEF fits me so well.
I did have sex with women as a femboy. Liked it less than I thought I would as an incel but I don't regret it.
>pain medication
Not a problem if I need it, regardless of anyone's opinion. I trooned without "approval" so I can definitely get any kind of medication I want.
>Feels like it matches my role as a woman and as a submissive in sex much better than being a coomer that has to coom every time
Fair enough. Ig I'm somewhere in between. I enjoy being submissive but I enjoy cooming too. After all, without the relatively high sex drive I probably wouldn't have been able to transmaxx successfully (in the sense of actually enjoying it).
>Don't let that surreal aspect discourage you
For sure. I mean every single aspect of my transition is and was surreal lol.
>Being a tranny wife with a pussy is kinda the ideal
Likely. I kinda had in mind that it'd be nice to end up a wife when I began but I certainly didn't expect things to work out that well. And certainly didn't think that I'd get srs basically ever.
Heck, even a year ago even as I had been to the first consult and making arrangements for it I was still "mostly no/likely no" on the SRS question.

>>44570434
>In a way I still do. Which is probably why intentional MEF fits me so well.
Wdym? Do you view topping as something bad that the MEF keeps in check?
>>44570434
>so I can definitely get any kind of medication I want.
Fair enough, but you may need it for as long as 5 to 6 months so just make sure it's something you won't get strongly addicted to.
>After all, without the relatively high sex drive I probably wouldn't have been able to transmaxx successfully
Don't get me wrong my sex drive is fairly high too, it's just less orgasm-centric now. Honestly not sure if that change was caused by SRS or not though. I think I just enjoy penetration so much now that the orgasm is just a bonus (and sometimes an off-switch for the horny feelings for a day or two, which can be useful)
>I mean every single aspect of my transition is and was surreal lol.
You'll probably also experience those surreal thoughts of remembering you used to be a male, all while your husband is plowing you in the vagina...
>And certainly didn't think that I'd get srs basically ever.
Same. It's crazy how fast things change though. I went from adamantly telling my psychiatrist I didn't think I'd wanted SRS, to asking the same psychiatrist to write me a referral letter in barely 12 months lol.

>>44564533
>im sure when i settle down with a guy he'll know all about me and it will be fine,
It's so so worth looking for a guy who you can tell everything about you to and he still stays with you because he's in love. Even better if you can talk openly with him about kids and about surrogacy or adoption if either of you two want that.
>but casual dating sure does feel alienating.
Do you like doing the casual dating? From what you described it sounds annoying if the men are going to be like that every time.

>>44571396
>topping as something bad that the MEF keeps in check?
Bad? No. Less than optimal? Yes.
Again, this is from experience. I am 'faketrans' after all. I liked having sex with women (obv as a top). But I also discovered I like having sex with men a lot more and way more as a sub. So topping isn't by default bad for me. Just not optimal.
>addiction risk
Thank you for the concern. Seriously. But since I had to figure out transition by myself, I learned quite a bit about how chemicals in the body/brain end up working.
>not sure if that change was caused by SRS or not
Ig I'll know in a year or so (recovery period included). Still, i doubt I'll stop watching porn or being high sex drive, though I do expect my tastes in porn to slowly shift.
>surreal thoughts of remembering you used to be a male
Certainly I expect that. I mean I sometimes get that now, lol. As in 'dafuq am i doing? oh ffs, but this is too good' lol
I expect it to hit differently for the trannymaxxing mind, tho likely not too differently since I'm coming to this moment with no resentment and with a smile. I chose to trannymax because it works.
>crazy how fast things change though
been contemplating it from 2024, about when I discovered mef, desu. But it's also pragmatism. Anal prep is way too much work and I want to travel in less tolerant parts of the world. And being preop is clocky.

>>44557802
>nta but same q: how's sex? how was the recovery?
The other nona explained it in great detail. Still, I'd add that the recovery differs quite a bit on your overall health and method chosen.
As for sex, I can say I got exactly what I wanted. But that's 4 years post op. The first year was not so interesting.
Got to use it after 6 months (out of an abundance of caution, probably would've been fine after 3 or 4 months) and it was a bit odd. Mentally it felt great (yay! living my fetish) but physically it was meh at best.
Started masturbating soon after and slowly got to discover "how it works". Since you're a trannymaxxer (aka non-dysphoric), I assume you've gone through the process of rebuilding your sexuality after 1-2 years of hrt. Well, roughly the same has to be done after SRS too. It's a very fun process (or at least it was for me) but also necessary. A lot of it is pretty intuitive (like learning how to position and move your hips, it is a bit different!) but practice makes best.
The other nona is right that orgasm is harder, but not that much harder (for me at least) and it's usually a welcomed development.
Once that's figured out, then you'll only remember you had srs because you want to. In day to day life I routinely forget, lol. But get reminded during horny time.
>dafuq am i doing? oh ffs, but this is too good
Yeah, something like that lol. Though even more intense if your guy calls you a faggot. Not saying he should or you should like that, but I crave that.

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>>44571529
>I am 'faketrans' after all.
I don't think this matters much when you are fully medically transitioning regardless.
>As in 'dafuq am i doing? oh ffs, but this is too good' lol
Relatable. I still get those thoughts occasionally even years post-op. I don't think they'd affect me as much if I didn't enjoy dick as much as I do, lol
>Anal prep is way too much work
Having a vagina definitely makes this so much better. No prep is even needed aside from normal foreplay for him.

>>44571600
>you'll only remember you had srs because you want to. In day to day life I routinely forget, lol.
NTA. I have to try hard to remember what having a penis was even like. After my body got used to the "parts of my body are in a different position now" feeling at around month 2 I just completely forgot about being a penis haver.
>But get reminded during horny time.
It's hard to forget you're a tranny srs haver when you're watching your man stick his penis in your pussy, lol.
>Though even more intense if your guy calls you a faggot.
Lately my bf has started calling me a "tranny whore" during sex. Gets me going quite well but I'm also still getting used to being a degradee.

Havent had SRS yet so Im being useless here, but I did grow tits.

I had what I called a subsurface/stealth dysphoria. I spiraled out of control buying more and more and more mens clothing, trying to find shirts and pants i liked on my body. I currently have ~75 shirts boxed and bagged up in the garage. All button down shirts.

I hated t shirts, most of my button downs, polos, etc. I hated most of the jeans I had. I hated shorts, flip flops/sandals, I hated going shirtless. I could NOT find clothes I liked on me and didnt like my body underneath. I packed on muscle mass and fat trying to change my body to something I liked. Nothing worked.

A lot of shit happened in my life and I finally just came out. Ive known I was trans since 1999 and started figuring it out around 1994. Im 46 now so you do the math.

After coming out and shedding 45lbs while also growing tits, I am finally happy. If I could get rid of my boy parts for free and without risk/recovery, Id do it in a heartbeat without a second thought. I almost guarantee that with hos I feel about finally having tits, jiggly thighs and butt, and that cute little bit of belly fat around my navel, I would not regret it in the slightest. I have zero desire to experience erections and have penetrative sex. I never have been interested in PIV sex but also absolutely love performing oral. I would not need a full depth vaginal canal; just the slit and sensitive bits on the outside would be fine. I am not fond of seeing a penis on my body and typically keep it locked in a cage, and not for the kink/fetish. It is more of an accessory that cute enough to alleviate the dysphoria around having it there. I dont even have to see it to dislike it; just feeling that stuff hanging off of me and bouncing and flopping around is not pleasant.

>>44573584

Samefagging - left out important info.

I did not realize it was dysphoria until I started transitioning. I thought I just couldnt find clothes that fit my very thin body well. Turned out it was dysphoria. I now love to wear everything I hated before.

I also hated existing in public and all I wanted to do was go to work and come home. Now, I love even the most mundane daily tasks like grocery shopping. I want to get out of bed and will often wake up at 430/5am and be disappointed that its not time to get up yet.

My entire life is a night and day difference, and all it took was tits and returning to that very thin and lithe body I had in my 20s.

I have a mashup of a male and female body too. I had natural tits at 6' tall and just 130lbs. Very small, but there was always jiggly breast tissue there. I have the skull, clavicle, carry angle, rib cage. pelvic tilt, q-angle, knee structure and hands and feet of a female. This along with knowing that I was trans in 99 probably made me struggle though life with that stealth dysphoria.

>>44573642
Are you sure you aren’t intersex

>>44573584
>I currently have ~75 shirts boxed and bagged up in the garage. All button down shirts.
Honestly, why haven't you sold these yet Nonny?

>>44573373
>It's hard to forget you're a tranny srs haver when you're watching your man stick his penis in your pussy, lol
I would forget it at least sometimes if he weren't reminding me. Mind you, I don't mind that he reminds me, in fact I prefer it. But it's definitely not something I honestly expected when I decided to give in to the fetish and just go for it.
Sure, in day to day life it happened pretty fast. Maybe not 2 months, but fast.
But like a few weeks ago I had forgotten to put the toys back in their place and when my bf came home he asked if i've been using them. I said "yes" and he was like "yeah, makes sense. harder to hide when you can't jerk off anymore" and it hit me that I hadn't even thought about that in a while and definitely didn't think about it when I had played with myself that day. It was all just normal and self evident that I'd ride and vibe.
>tranny whore
If you find it hot, keep escalating. If you don't stop. That's really the only rule.
>>44573373
>>I am 'faketrans' after all.
>I don't think this matters much when you are fully medically transitioning regardless
NTA but while this is objectively true IRL, in the tranny spaces there's a lot of tension.
The nona you're responding to is likely aware as well. At least incel to trannymaxxing has gotten a tad bit more accepted because of sheer numbers in the young(er) cohorts.
You don't want to know what kind of verbal abuse I had to endure from trannies when I made the mistake of admitting that I did it entirely for the fetish.
I don't even understand where the hostility comes from (other than maybe envy?). Us "fakers" usually pay out of pocket for everything so we certainly don't impede anyone.

>>44573665

I am pretty sure I am 47,XXY. I tick 99/100 boxes metaphorically speaking, but havent been tested. I dont feel like I need the validation but am still a bit curious of course. Just having these features is plenty enough validation.

I also have a very sensitive perineum thats a bit beyond what I think is normal; I have full body orgasms from my GF touching, stroking and gently rubbing it. Like actual body contorting, shaking afterwards orgasms.

Another clue in the intersex thing is this: Im not actually on HRT yet grew these tits anyway. I am just taking two dietary supplements I can get from Amazon: one was shown to reduce T by 27-30% in makes in small studies, and another is a potent phytoestrogen called Pueraria Mirifica. Its intended as a menopause supplement but SEA ladyboys also use it as a form of HRT. Most trans groups will fight with me over it and sewar up and down that 'that stuff doesnt work' until I offer to share pictures in private. Suddenly they stop responding...every time.

>>44573701

I should; most are unworn more than once or twice. Even at just a couple bucks each its decent money. My cishet GF aked me to keep them when this was all fresh and new still, probably thinking that I wasnt for real. She does seem to be coming to grips with the fact that this is indeed real and I am not going to just switch back.

>>44573815
>and he was like "yeah, makes sense. harder to hide when you can't jerk off anymore"
I wonder if I can get my bf to tease me like this too...
>If you find it hot, keep escalating.
I like it because similar to SRS it makes me feel resignation and submission to him even more strongly when he says it. Like, I'm just his tranny now, I'm a whore for liking receptive sex so much, and I have a pussy now for the rest of my life. Might as well just give in and enjoy it rather than feel the hangups from toxic masculinity and homophobia in the past.
>You don't want to know what kind of verbal abuse I had to endure from trannies when I made the mistake of admitting that I did it entirely for the fetish.
I'm sorry that they did that to you Nona. I think you're right that it's envy. You pass and have SRS and a bf, so you're like in the top 5% for quality of life for trannies. A lot of people are gonna be upset that they don't have this, "truetrans" or not.

>>44574160
>Pueraria Mirifica
NTA but I took this too after a few years of HRT because at the time people swore up and down that it helped fill out your breast growth. Idk if it actually worked or not but my breasts are actually round now so I'm not gonna hate on the stuff.

>>44574213
>wonder if I can get my bf to tease me like this too...
The funniest (and also the hottest) part was that it wasn't even planned. Like we both laughed when he said it and then I was like "hold on, this is actually kinda legit and hot"
Still think it's kinda weird (but not in a bad way) that I legit forgot when I was dildoing myself that this is still a new thing. Specially since it hasn't even been a decade yet since I was still living as a straight man. Seems like another lifetime in a parallel universe.
>Might as well just give in and enjoy it
Yeah, pretty much. Especially if you love the guy as well, there's no reason to think about it in hyperanalitical terms too much.
To me it's even easier because that's really what I wanted. So I don't have philosophical questions. I do got pragmatic ones. Such as why the hell is the muscle on one of my feet sometimes hurts enough that he can't have me prone? that sucks.
>so you're like in the top 5% for quality of life for trannies
Probably even higher, if I'm truly honest. I make way above the national average for my country and I own my apartment.
Really the only things that are missing are a marriage certificate and children. Ideally both happen by 2030 or so.
I'm not hot. Like I see some trannies here on passgen that trigger the kind of envy I sometimes feel for cis women. But then I see that they're way less happy despite in theory being ahead of me.
Turns out that character really does matter more at the end of the day.

>>44571600
>first year was not so interesting
I fully do expect the recovery to "eat" at least 5-6 months. I'm planning my finances in such a way that I don't work much for at least 8 months.
>trannymaxxer (aka non-dysphoric), I assume you've gone through the process of rebuilding your sexuality after 1-2 years of hrt
Oh! Now THAT is very useful information. Thank you, MEFperv.
>even more intense if your guy calls you a faggot
uh-oh. Then I'm in trouble :))
I mean I already get called names playfully.
>>44573373
>don't think this matters much when you are fully medically transitioning regardless
Sure. But I mentioned it in the context of you asking whether I see topping as bad. So I explained that since I'm not dysphoric, "bad" doesn't quite enter into the conversation.
Nearly everything about my transition was and is about what's optimal and/or pragmatic while still being enjoyable for me.
Idk if it's the hrt, the atrophy or the simple fact that I am still in love with my husband, but, over time, being submissive to him is simply the most optimal for my brain, if that makes sense.
>>44573815
>Us "fakers" usually pay out of pocket for everything so we certainly don't impede anyone
obviously nta, but this is true in my case too.
in fact I was explicitly rejected for a GD diagnosis the first time I tried (hence DiY). Only when I had FFS scheduled they changed their mind. i needed their paperwork so I can change my ID.

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>>44574244
I feel like the ones that say it doesnt work are trying to validate themselves as trans by dismissing the possibility that someone may be 'more trans' than them. Theyre typically the same users that i see claiming others arent trans at all, because they didnt share the exact same experience. Older trans swore by it before the newtrans crowd started getting loud about everything. I figured why the hell not give it a shot. And its not just breast growth; my thighs and butt have gotten SUPER jiggly, and are slowly changing shape too. I recently read somewhere that PM is now being studied as a potential replacement for HRT too.

>>44574447

Relevant: pic was less than 2 months in. I now have full a cups that are very round.

>>44574347
NTA but may I ask you when and how you first got into MEF? Sounds really interesting

>>44573584
>literal john 50 on 4chan
umm...

>>44574633
You wouldn't believe me. I'm almost a stereotype lol.
Had no tranny thoughts prior to age 21-22. Got into gay and tranny porn as a curiosity. Before I knew it I was envious on my gf that she gets to suck my dick and I don't get to do that. Got rapidly more interested in submissive sexuality and feminization. I tried to be submissive to her but it wasn't quite working out.
She left me for unrelated reasons so I took the opportunity to explore. Got involved with a bi guy who was an old friend. He was curious about trannies, I was curious about being fucked by men. We learned a lot from each other. He ended up with a tranny later on and I ended up never dating women ever again. He discovered he likes "force" femming, I discovered I was craving it.
Despite everyone, including other trannies telling me not to troon for the fetish or that it'll pass if I actually start HRT, I started HRT at almost 24 in 2018. The fetish never passed, but I did by late 2020. Met my current bf in 2021, had SRS in 2022.
Still a fetishist, still high sex drive.

>>44574347
>I legit forgot when I was dildoing myself that this is still a new thing.
It took maybe 3 years but I finally got over the weirdness of dildos. I think what helped was learning to reach orgasm just from the toy and nothing else...
>Seems like another lifetime in a parallel universe.
Idk if it's this way for you but I've pretty much forgotten most of my memories from puberty to starting my transition. It's actually kinda scary, over 11 years of my life and I can hardly remember it anymore, and what I do remember feels like it's a different person's memories.
>I make way above the national average for my country and I own my apartment.
>Really the only things that are missing are a marriage certificate and children. Ideally both happen by 2030 or so.
That's really good Nona. You're well and ahead of me it sounds like. I finally finished saving for my FFS just last month, let alone for a house down payment. Having kids sounds like a distant dream right now, though I wouldn't mind waiting another ten years if it means I can do IVG with my bf.

>>44574395
>being submissive to him is simply the most optimal for my brain, if that makes sense.
I think everyone ITT would agree on this, lol. Even moreso once you have a vagina. Like I might as well enjoy the pleasure of letting the guy I love do whatever he wants with me sexually now. What else am I gonna do? I get aroused now when he teases me for being more submissive lately, which did not happen before. I think another permabottom switch got activated in my brain recently

>>44575020
>Had no tranny thoughts prior to age 21-22. Got into gay and tranny porn as a curiosity. Before I knew it I was envious
Way too relatable. I don't view myself as fully non-dysphoric but relating to this stuff definitely makes me question whether it truly may be an infohazard. Like if I hadn't stumbled upon that forcefem, forced SRS, and forced marriage erotica story 8 years ago would I even be doing this now?

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>>44576591
>Like if I hadn't stumbled upon that forcefem, forced SRS, and forced marriage erotica story 8 years ago would I even be doing this now?
I know I would have, eventually. Just later. Probably would've started in 2022 or 23 and would've been an even 'faker' tranny.
In my totally subjective opinion, high libido pervs (both male and female) eventually escalate into stuff like this. And since now it's accessible, it becomes harder to justify not to indulge.
I met a 30yo pooner last month and he was basically telling the same story. Got increasingly horny, pooned out, got even more horny till he eventually ended up a permabottom femfag. Sort of an AAP and mef at the same time if that makes sense.
And he had the same problem I (used to) have. How do you talk about this? Ironically it's high libido cishet women who are the only ones that kinda get it. I didn't have to explain much to them. They were like "ofc being submissive to a guy is hot. once you've lived it you don't want anything else" heh

>>44550142
It seems like everyone here is talking about complications as the main fear. I am not interested in a canal because I am a lesbian and have never had interest in penetration at all. Would vulvaplasty (zero-depth) be worth it? Has anyone else here had it?

>>44573815
I don't really think "Fakers" exist. I mean gender isn't really "real" anyway, it's a social construct and we adopt identities like male or female to fit into society, not as a truth of the universe. I like to model gender identity, as in the "underlying" sense of gender, as a set of personality traits associated with natal sex. Sometimes people born male can have female personality traits, and this is where we get the spectrum of gender and transgender identity from. Cisgender people just have their crushed into a narrow space. We transition, I think, to allow ourselves to fit into society in the way we want to live, and to affirm those personality traits, which might include "wants to have a penis/vagina" and "wants to be physically feminine". I think gender dysphoria isn't unique to gender. I remember feeling this exact sensation about not being able to collect guns, which was alleviated with an airsoft collection. That felt identical to gender dysphoria, just targeted at a different source. Not to say transitioning is a hobby for me, just that I felt exactly as miserable about not having guns as I did about being a boy, and it generated a lot of neuroses too.

>>44576591
>weirdness of dildos
Can't relate to that since even before I let myself get dominated by my first quasi-bf, I was already playing with them at home. I wasn't even on hrt when I did it the first time.
>reach orgasm just from the toy and nothing else
Very nice as pre-op, but not necessarily practical all the time as srsoid, imo.
I have no qualms in rubbing the clit to help with the orgasm. I do that when I'm with him too, unless he stops me. But when he stops me it means he's in the mood for a very long session which is also great.
What kinda sucks is when we do a quickie in the morning before we go for work and then I end up horny the whole day, which is quite annoying.
>memories from puberty to starting my transition
Here we differ drastically. I remember everything and it doesn't feel like a different person's memories. It's part of who I am too. I wouldn't have gotten here without the very high libido that came with puberty.
I even remember fondly when I was fucking my last gf. Not many people can claim to have lived as both a straight guy and a straight woman.

>>44582005
Haven't had it but it sounds like it could be worth it for you. Normally I suggest the people who want zero-depth because they're afraid of dilation to NOT do that, but if you genuinely will never use it then why bother?

>>44582005
Conversely, what SRS method would be best for vaginal fisting?

>>44582056
>I don't really think "Fakers" exist
Depends how one defines it. Under the rigid definition, I absolutely am a faker. Again, I had no tranny thoughts before age 21 or 22. It's entirely a new adult desire that I developed and purposefully entertained because I liked it. And was also prepared to fail at it.
It certainly started as a hobby and there absolutely was a moment when I decided that I'm going through with this till its logical conclusion and I could've decided the other way and would've been just fine.
>gender dysphoria isn't unique to gender. I remember feeling this exact sensation about not being able to collect guns, which was alleviated with an airsoft collection. That felt identical to gender dysphoria, just targeted at a different source
You know what? That's actually a very interesting comparison.
I just wanted to be a woman because I wanted to. Glad it worked out but honestly can't relate to a lot of the tranny stories I encounter. And that's probably for the better.

>>44583945
Any of them aside from PI would likely perform similarly for that.

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>>44561342
>just move bro
If I wasn't a poorfag I wouldn't be in this conundrum.

Damn this thread has me thinking. I transitioned almost 10 yrs ago and kinda swore off surgery because it felt like too much of risk, considering the only trans woman I knew post srs couldnt finish and also it just tasted of piss the whole time. But now with my bf I really wish the sex was better, I want to enjoy anal but it just sucks and I get basically no physical pleasure out of it, only mental.

idk maybe I should be considering srs more, I kinda hate the thing. Don't ever want my bf touching it or god forbid anything else - just felt easier to put up with it instead of risking anything. Gonna be having orchi in a couple months so maybe once that's done I'll feel better about moving forward.

>>44587033
>Gonna be having orchi in a couple months
Are you at least going to have them put prosthetics in? If you don't do that you may lose a lot of testes tissue and may not get the ideal results from SRS.

>>44583945
unironically Suporn.

>>44587033
>taste of piss
as a trans girl with no pp and bladder issues this makes me sad

>>44587370
Why though?

Very qualitative thread. Read every single reply.
I'm technically a tranny ig, but not really. I just wanted to look fem. I got what I wanted but after 8 years I'm at the crossroad.
My testes have barely atrophied (I've been taking AAs most of this time) and continuous use of AAs is gonna get me into trouble. Without AAs even danger-level dosages of E don't quite do the job (not to mention I feel awful from such high doses and I'm not a neet, I need to be able to function properly IRL).
Stopping HRT is not quite an option because I like how things are going and I still don't want to age like my father.
Sexually I'm more mef, though maybe not quite like mefy girls describe it. But definitely submissive and androphilic. I am gay married after all.
I could get away with only an orchi but Imma go through with SRS.
>>44566775
That will be me by the end of this year.

>>44588396
i dont want to pee on a boy

>>44589539
What if he wants you to?

>>44590121
a boy should pee on me
it is my fetish

>>44590186
You can probably find a guy who'll do that for you Nona

>>44550142
if i could guarantee my srs wouldn't have any complications or revisions needed i would sign up for it in a heartbeat

>>44587100

Fuck no, I actually want to enjoy not having these fucking things. I reckon it'll be me less than 6 months to know either way, and if I just gotta stretch my sack and moisturize or whatever then so be it

>>44591374
Fair enough. Just make sure you go with something other than PI if you do it, that way they have more tissue to work with.

>>44592792

hold up I thought PI is the one you have to get if you've got no sack

>>44550142
I have terrible dysphoria but not about my genitals. I waited 6 years and finally have it nex february. I live stealth and hope to just find a bf after. Hopefully burin doesn't mess up

>>44594115
PPT should be better for that.