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did anyone else read trans/femboy/crossdressing/tomgirl erotica or doujin since they were very young? I have always loved them and feel more connected to them than ever, now 25 and more pretty and feminine than in my teens
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>>44591432
I prefer my girls to have always been girls

But, that said, trans women were never men
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>>44591450
what is that first part supposed to mean and what does it have to do with this? cis women? trans women who were fem in their teens?
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>>44591432
>Since they were very young
AHHHHH STOP IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO, I'M NOT OLD OKAY
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>>44591459
I feel you. I am now 25 and read them since like.. 12? or younger? 12 or 13 years ago is crazy
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>>44591432
I really liked yaoi and the concept of femboys when I was a young teen
lo and behold I became what I once admired and it was no longer fantasy (to an extent)
t.enby transfem
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>>44591564
oh and also I'm 25 now lol
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>>44591458
I have never shown an ounce of interest in anything with gender bending as a theme and do not like the way it presents its characters as having been men who become women

In real life, trans women were never really men, so it is okay.
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>>44591630
this isn’t about genderbending, are you retarded? For example I love tomgirl stuff which ranges from outright trans to crossdressers but they are almost always naturally fem either way
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>>44591564
same I am similar I guess, I am just more fem and fully trans. Did you like masc x masc or twink x twink too? Personally I like masc x fem
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>>44591564
I never really liked BL type yaoi DESU. I was more into tomgirls, explicitly or implicitly trans, crossdressers, femboys, genderbent, and fem futa, aside from just regular girls. I used to think I self inserted as the men, but now I know thats wrong lol. There's only one or two doujins, by the same author, that are straight up yaoi that I like.
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>>44591688
Same but I know I have always self inserted as the bottom lol. No idea why my young self gravitated towards that and then I started crossdressing, like it just occurred naturally. I still vividly remember reading and watching tsf monogatari for the first time and daydreaming about that happening to me lol. What about you?
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>>44591670
pretty sure I liked the typical masc x fem dynamic most often, but I don't mind it being balanced, just visually I probably wouldn't go for bara
I like the sweet lovey dovey BL stuff now, it feels more relatable to me somehow even though I'm not a real boy
>>44591688
the stuff I liked when I was younger was more horny lol
I was a femboy and a crossdresser for a while too because I was so infatuated with the idea of it, but of course no one would have guessed I was trans back then
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>>44591717
Honestly, I always liked the brash confident girls, especially tomboys. Extra extra bonus points if they showed their melted hearts and feminine side in private and in bed. That's how I want to be, I'm more butch leaning in terms of aesthetics but for my partner I wouldnt mine wearing something super embarrassing and fem in private. I really don't like sissy though, implying I'm a femboy or need to be removed of my masculinity feels really gross.
For me, I was more into doujins, I've read so many that it's hard to name a favorite. But my favorite show as a little kid was Powerpuff Girls, because it showed just how cool and strong girls can actually be without being hyperfem princess girlbosses.
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>>44591432
yeah lol, I exhausted the limited supply of SFW genderbender/trap stuff that was available pretty quickly and had to move on to doujinshi
they were usually pretty disappointing desu, good storylines with happy endings were rare
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>>44591810
yes doujins are often more pornographic and have no story arc or nonsensical ones. But if you like happy endings, may I introduce you to a good example?:
#545903
https://nhentai.net/g/545903/
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>>44591808
do you know himegoto: juukyusai no seifuku? Your internal struggle with performed femininity and attitude and presentation sounds a lot like the main character yuki's struggle that gets explored in the series. You might like it!
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>>44591908
No I haven't, thanks for the rec! Wanna be friends nona? I want to talk more about media and doujins, but I'm tired and its getting late
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>>44591942
I do not have discord or any social media other than my private instagram:/
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yes is relate to this so hard >_<
i remember looking at art of link being gender bent and it led towards everything else. Even though i used to love force-fem and that sorta thing going back now and seeing how rapey eveything was makes me sad. i wish i knew more gender bender type stories that were less rapey
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>>44591956
aww. well, I wish you luck and happiness and all the best nona!
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>>44591897
looks promising, thanks anon
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>>44592039
let me know your thoughts later!
I would appreciate recommendations for sfw works as I am more familiar with the nsfw side
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>>44592055
I unfortunately need to get some sleep tonight, but if this thread is still up later I'll try to.
>https://mangadex.org/title/c8644a70-5606-4a82-8b6a-b875abec5eea/strange-mansion?tab=chapters
read this one if you want a fascinating time capsule
even though it's basically a gag manga it absolutely nails the bittersweet vibes
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>>44591432
didn't really have mangas or anything but i used to read a lot of crossdress sex stories back when i was a kid
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bump
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>>44591432
Yes! I only started transitionning because it bothered me immensely that I did not look like the ukes/traps from yaoi douijins. I don't know if this is AGP or MEF or what?
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Also that artist from OP pic made me cum so many times to his boys, but I don't remember his name. Anyone help me out?
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>>44597544
If I had to guess it's probably locon
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>>44591432
i got into boobs at like 9, found breast expansion on deviant art, some ancient shit called suckermouth, it was boob inflation slop. that got me into transformation stuff. then he had like bimbo transformation videos with terrible blender ms pain type shit, girls growing larger assets front and back

then i found more tf stuff and eventually found mtf and that shit WREACKED HAVOC on my life. like i was and still kinda am obsessed although less nowadays since my testorone has dropped, (im 31) i still want to live out my out mtf transformation but im just ugh... such a fucking dude. the more ive grown the more i realized I never have and never will experience the hardships women go through, im a completely inauthethic porn obsessed gooner since i was young. internet ruined me it seeps into my daily life and i cant get rid of it. currently saving money for femininzing surgeries while i voice train though.
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Honestly a lot of my conscious interaction with feeling/wanting to be feminine is within the context of sexual fantasies, porn, and attraction, to the point where despite thinking I'm not cis, I haven't really explored trying to transition or speaking with therapists, trans people etc because I'm worried they'll say I'm just a degenerate and tell me to fuck off

Points in favor of being not-cis:
>Feel wistful when looking at people's transition timelines
>Have had dreams where I'm feminine or androgynous, feel sad it was just a dream when I wake up
>When I came across the concept of intersex/hermaphrodism and characters with traits of both sexes as a preteen, I wished I could be that
>Always picked/made androgynous/feminine male characters in games and character creators
>Hesitant to label myself with he/him pronouns online

Points in favor of it just being a fetish:
>Don't mind being gendered as male otherwise
>Don't feel disgusted by my current body, even if I wish it was more feminine/androgynous
>Don't have a desire to be actively seen/treated as a woman in society or by others
>I find twinks, femboys, trans women, trans men, tomboys, etc hot
>Often imagine myself with a feminine face, body, breasts etc in sexual fantasies
>A big part of me wanting to look feminine or androgynous is, I think, wanting to be able to live out those fantasies, and to just embody what I find attractive
>If I did take HRT etc, I wouldn't try to pass as a woman, I'd just present as a really feminine guy

Should I try to talk to people about it or are they going to respond with disgust?
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>>44598211
Ask yourself this, when you look at men 20 years older than you, especially in your family, if that's how you saw yourself aging in the future, would you mind it? If that gives you dysphoria, you're probably trans. And DESU Nona, it sounds like you're already dreaming of a better feminine life. Sexual desire and fantasy is one part of a whole identity, it's not just a vice or something to be ignored
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>>44598500
>Ask yourself this, when you look at men 20 years older than you, especially in your family, if that's how you saw yourself aging in the future, would you mind it?

I'm pretty sure I would mind it, yeah, considering I'm having panic attacks over my age now a bit, though how much of that is an innate fear of aging that way vs me being freaked out because I didn't do what I wanted to over the past decade is up in the air

>Sexual desire and fantasy is one part of a whole identity, it's not just a vice or something to be ignored

Sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean that discussing it with therapists or trans, NB etc people won't gross them out
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>>44599283
If your therapist gets squeamish or tells you it's irrelevant, they're a shit therapist. Therapists are supposed to be guides and platforms for you to explore your emotions. Also, I'm an nonbinary transfem, I don't like a lot of feminine clothes, and I felt exactly the same as you. But I decided that trying estrogen is the best way to find out instead of trying to juggle it all in my head my whole life.
Maybe you're just a fruity man, sure, you could try fixing everything with cosmetics, but if you cant even find a celebrity with your look then maybe you're looking in the wrong place in your heart. You don't need to fully suppress your testosterone, estrogen helps with skin and doing intentional hondosing will lower sebum production while preventing brain fog and genital dysfunction if you still like your penis. There are also SRS to preserve the penis and even balls, look into peritoneal pull through.
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>>44599390
>You don't need to fully suppress your testosterone, estrogen helps with skin and doing intentional hondosing will lower sebum production while preventing brain fog and genital dysfunction if you still like your penis.

Can you clarify on this?
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>>44600322
There are ranges of normal hormones right? Male hypogonadism starts at like 200ng/dL. But if you're supplementing estrogen using monotherapy for example, you can control the scale of male to female effects because your body will lower its testosterone production to compensate. Most people recommend against this practice because they have the misinformed idea that having moderate levels of both hormones is bad. Having high levels of both, yeah stupid, there's some health concerns with that that you can look into with roiding bodybuilders, but you won't run into this on normal E monotherapy. Having extremely low levels of either/both, also stupid and will cause mood issues or osteoporosis, but this is basically only possible with AA monotherapy or orchis without supplementing hormones. Afaik:
>estrogen dominant effects include thinner skin, lower sebum production, subcutaneous fat distribution (ass, hips, breasts, face), and increased serotonin levels (moderate anxiolytic) among others.
>Testosterone dominant effects include thicker and oilier skin, larger pores, improved muscle synthesis and upper body strength, visceral fat storage, dopamine sensitivity (motivation), and male genital function (no clue on erection pathway, but maybe nitrous oxide?).
You could aim for an in between based on feelings, and then also get experimental with addon drugs like finasteride/dutasteride (DHT blockers) for hairline protection, minoxidil for regrowth, pioglitazone for enhanced subcutaneous fat redistribution, topical estriol for targeted dermal estrogenic effects, and progesterone for improved libido and breast growth. There's a lot of options, but it will require either a lot of bureaucracy through the official health system, lots of money through informed consent clinics that may not even support you completely, or going DIY like most people here. Your body should be in your control, but you should keep in touch with a doctor to make sure you're not gonna kys
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>>44600683
Are there guides for the sort of stuff you're mentioning? Or especially informed people/communities I could go to to ask further questions?

Hell if you feel informed enough to discuss this stuff further and you're open to giving me further input past when this thread 404s, let me know if you have a twitter or a discord or something and I'll add you
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>>44591432
i looked at trap stuff when i was kinda young and i often wonder if thats whyim like this :c

letting kids have access to the internet was a mistake.
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>>44600726
I have a discord and of course I don't mind sharing, but honestly a lot of this stuff even I've struggled to find collected resources for. I'm barely starting my HRT journey, so I don't even have experience with half of this stuff. There are a lot of people that will mention stuff in passing, but you should check out both the hrtgen threads here, and the transdiy subreddit and wikis.
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>>44600757
Well, post your discord regardless and I'll add you
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>>44600819
https://discord.gg/Fj99Ehy4
Here's my discord
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>>44600730
it's more likely that you looked at trap stuff because you were like this
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>>44600854
>>44600829
Both of these say they are invalid
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>>44601231
This one should be valid, I don't know what happened. Sorry I'm a little nervous about having my username forever on this website. https://discord.gg/JUaTw9dd
Username starts with a k
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>>44601419
Still not working

If you don't wanna post your username directly, then you can add me from your end: I just made a throwaway account for myself, which is "TempThrowaway" or "tempthrowaway_53271", i'm not sure which one you have to send a request to for it to work

After you add me, I'll accept and then I'll send you my actual main account username from there
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>>44601441
Sent
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>>44601169
NTA but I don't know man. I feel like watching that stuff young has perverted my sexuality and I'm more into tomboys/tomgirls/crossdressers and both MtFs and FtMs than cis people.
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>>44601449
I got your request but Discord is giving me issues with my account being brand new so I can't accept it.

I'm sending you a friend request from my actual account since I could see your username from your request to the throwaway one, so just accept my FR

My username is a type of gemstone
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>>44601522
Well you have 3 options: fag out as a cis fem acting gay dude, troon out as a girl with boobs, or stay chasing as a basic straight guy. Which sounds hottest to you?
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>>44591432
It was "over" long before I discovered erotica or visual porn. My fantasies were always about being fucked by a guy.
Got on AAs at 14 (illegally ofc), came out to my parents at 15 and took a gap year before college to recover from SRS.
Did erotica play a role? Likely.
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>>44601522
>>44601729
>fag out as a cis fem acting gay dude, troon out as a girl with boobs
NTA but there's also the option to combine these two.
May not work for everyone but it works for a lot more than people think. At least for a while (and by that I mean 8-10 years), after which one might still need to settle for trooning.
Still, it's a lot easier to navigate life as a boobtwink when you're part of the vast majority that isn't a total luckshit.
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>>44601522
instead of perverting my sexuality it perverted my gender now im a tranny into guys. fml
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>>44601868
>fml
why fml?
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>>44591432
YES! it made me want to unironically kms even now
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>>44591432
locon's art has been very important to me since i was in my early teens and found out how to access sadpanda, their doujin that's just straight up about a trans girl is still one of the works of art that "gets it" more than a lot of fiction made in more respectable mediums
when i went to japan last year i made sure to grab as many doujinshis of theirs whenever i was in a mandarake
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>>44605127
do you have any links to their stuff? I'm kinda curious about it now
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>>44591432
>>44591564
>>44591570
Same except I am now an ugly 25 year old repper

dont rep, kids
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>>44605638
most of their work was struck down from exhentai years ago but this is the story i was referring to;
https://nhentai.to/g/325744/
first 50 pages are the original, the rest is the sequel that they released a few years later
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>>44591432
I only ever watched romance or drama animes as a kid (Clannad, Kanon, etc). I have always inserted as the female love interest. That being said, I skipped straight to Trap/Otokonoko (males only) hentai around 13. I think since I undeniably had male genitals it was the only form of pornographic media that I felt compatible with. I was also shy and introverted growing up so I didnt feel comfortable being open about my feelings.
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>>44604322
BECUZ BEING A TRANNY SUCKS!!! especially because i look like a man so instead of having a real life i spend every day dissociating, avoiding my life and other people to avoid the constant humilation and embarrassment i feel. i wish i could have just been gay because at least thats comparatively normal
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