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Say it with me now because this is the only way we will win this debate and our right to self determination:

Trans Women are Female.

It's time to refuse to deny the biologist reality of the medical interventions we undergo to change our sex.
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quit using 'trans' its hate affix
we are just women . genetically , biologically , whatever
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>>44600766
The thread got no traction because everyone here already believes this.
It's the mildest take ever
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transwomen are males
women who are not males are ciswomen
transwomen are not ciswomen
it is impossible to change your biological sex
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>>44602345
Why are you even here if you believe that?
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I think neurologically trans women are closer to cis women than cis men. And what matters is the “soul”, the mind, rather than the body
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>>44602345
>impossible to change your biological sex
there are tits growing out of me anon.. how were u able to solve the catchpa while being this restarted
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>>44602401
biological sex is not contingent upon the existence of tits
hormone replacement therapy does not alter biological sex
transwomen are males
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>>44602432
HRT alters your brain.

Some of us were exposed to high estrogen in the womb btw, that gave me autism too.
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duh i have tits and pussy nobody in their right kind would consider that a male
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>>44602432
Biological sex is not contingent on chromosomes.
It's based on a number of sex markers that fall in a bimodal distribution on which most trans women skew towards the female end.
Trans women are female. Fact.
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>>44602441
biological sex is not contingent on hormone altered brain structure
biological sex is not contingent on estrogen exposure in the womb
transwomen are males
males that have sex with males are homosexuals
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>>44602468
humans have a XY sex determination system
biological sex is determined by sex chromosomes at the time of fertilization
it is impossible to change your biological sex
transwomen are males
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>>44602474
Biological sex is the genes someone has, XX or XY, but sex hormone levels influence the transcription of either X or Y genes.

Now actually most of the Y genes are supplementary to the X genes. These genes are specific to making sperm, and most importantly we have the SRY gene which triggers sex differentials in the gonads. As a fetus all humans start with female traits, SRY triggers masculinization.

Now not all genes for the male differentiation are on the Y chromosome, but mammals evolved such that males have the SRY gene on the Y chromosome, originally Y was another X chromosome.

All that to say, I could probably engineer a lab rat that has the XY DNA but with enough prenatal hormones injected prevent the male genes from being transcribed and have a female looking and functional rat.

Similar in humans high levels of estrogen or low testosterone can cause a male fetus be unusually feminized. And HRT in adulthood also changes how are genes are expressed, though limited physical development change of course. Importantly most transgender women have noticeable brain structure differences than cis men, even before HRT, especially those with the high estrogen or low testerone during fetal development. HRT then further changes the brain.

So really what are is transphobic, you don’t care about how HRT or developmental differences might affect the brain and thus mind of people. Maybe you believe “god” gave everyone a male or female soul that is immutable, well I hate to break it to you but animals are mutable. We can change the dna transcription of animals to be the opposite sex with cross sex hormones, and to some extent this causes physical changes as well.

Thus I claim that since we change the brain structure of humans based on their sex hormones that we treat trans women on HRT and women
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>>44602474
>>44602516
>>44602529
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>>44602516
Chromosomes only determine sex at birth.
You can in fact change your sex by changing enough sex markers.
Trans women are female
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>>44602516
i don't believe any of your science <3
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>>44602529
it is impossible with current medical technology to change your biological sex
transwomen are male women
males that have sex with males are homosexuals
it is impossible for a transgender woman to get a straight cisboyfriend
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>>44600766
“Biological sex” is just a god of the gaps argument. It’s not a real thing, there are like 5 different types of “biological sex” and literally all of them are mutable in some way or another, most of them significantly so.

Essentialist thinking is just retarded in general it’s a cope for people who are too dumb to understand stuff so you just say “oh no it’s just like that” it’s literally modern day religious thinking.

We construct the meaning and the categories in ways they are useful. You mean something when you say biological sex and actual biologists mean something totally different. The thing is, the utility here for you is just spite driven not functional, and therefore unlikely to succeed in the long term because language evolves and understand biology is more advantageous to us than feeling superior to internet trannies.
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>>44602568
if I changed your brain to be that of a male in structure, and pumped you full of testosterone, would you still consider yourself female.

Maybe we should separate biological sex from the DNA someone has and what actual traits they have expressed from hormones - or in another way of saying, a trans woman should be considered socially and legally a woman if she's on HRT even though she does does XY DNA.

The reason you care so much about this is because you want female privileges to be an immutable birth right. You are a extreme feminists that views woman above men. You probably treat trans men as men socially, but because they have XX DNA, you seem them are more privileged than cis men. This is low IQ selfish thinking desu.
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>ITT an LLM spams the board and trannies take the b8
le sigh
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>>44602568
I already disproved your theory by getting a straight cis boyfriend which you said was impossible so how much stock should I put in your other stupid theories?
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The terf went to bed :|
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this thread glows
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>>44602568
wrong you can change sex traits



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