Will ftm youngshits have to go to anti-incel classes or will it be the mtfs?
>>44607318both, obviously
>>44607318It's terf island what do you think?
>you are all evil monsters and must worship and give all your money to the morally superior and correct sex or go to prisonEvery single terrible thing in the world came from the UK and its gynocentrism and the women running the show are too stupid to realize that this will simply further radicalize men
>>44607376men won't do shit desu besides a few isolated cases that will easily be contained (and that people will also say were actually false flags or whatever the fuck on top)
>>44607318they somehow manage to always find the worst solution for everything
>>44607385Radicalization doesn't always mean mass violenceYou can be an extremist without killing
>>44607318I bet 3 pence that these classes will not address Islam in any capacity whatsoever.
>>44607318the girls are laughing and mocking them
>>44607399why is a negro allowed to call her a bloke?'Brits banned slavery. He should be bowing to the troon just like the Muslim did.
>>44607318there are barely any white kids in the uk so who cares
The worst part about this is you know part of the “treating women with respect” will almost certainly include a rabid Zionist element, and it will also entail how Russian women need to be treated with less respect than Ukrainian ones, etc. the uk is utterly insane and their policies only serve to paper over the shrinking native population and mass rape factories that are their elite and “new arrivals” Grim
this board went to shit a long time ago didn't it
>>44607399she's very based
>>44607858yes the irony is that women don't actually want to be treated like that in context of relationshipsif you ask the average woman what kind of man she wants, she'll say she wants someone masculine and confident, who doesn't need to ask her permission to kiss her, who's sexually dominant and a little bit aggressive, and follows gendered dating rolesbut if you ask the same woman (or a woman schoolteacher for that matter) how boys should be taught to treat women, they'll say that boys should be taught to be kind and respectful, to always listen to what she has to say, that no means no, etc. The problem is that there's a gap between how women want to be treated by men that they're attracted to / in a relationship with, and how women want every other man who they're not attracted to to act. If a 13 year old boy asks a teacher or social worker or whatever other adult how to get a girlfriend, that's what they'll teach, that he should be kind and polite and respectful, because they don't see him as a prospective partner. But his prospective partners don't want men who are kind and polite and respectful, they want men who are masculine and confident and sexually aggressive. And the whole reason this is an issue is because there's a culture war over teenage boys between the female schoolteacher group who wants to teach boys that they should be kind and respectful and polite, and the manosphere andrew tate group whose advice essentially boils down to "don't be respectful, just go to the gym a lot and drive a nice car". And this makes the schoolteachers / middle aged female politicians very angry, because they only want men like that for their own partners, but they don't want men to act like that normally in society. Unfortunately for them it'll never work, because anyone even 13 year old boys can see that going to the gym and having a car makes it a lot easier to get girls than being polite and respectful does.
>>44607399lol I thought he meant the tranny was the muslim for a second there
>>44609159would (vote)
>>44609228>if you ask the average woman what kind of man she wants, she'll say she wants someone masculine and confident, who doesn't need to ask her permission to kiss her, who's sexually dominant and a little bit aggressive, and follows gendered dating roles>but if you ask the same woman (or a woman schoolteacher for that matter) how boys should be taught to treat women, they'll say that boys should be taught to be kind and respectful, to always listen to what she has to say, that no means no, etcI don't see a problem
>>44607411The radicalization in just this case just means… what, posting on r/smalldickcels? lol
>>44609228anyway this whole issue is just downstream from the fact that the last couple generations refuse to let go of their cultural influence, and so society hasn't progressed in the last 15 years, especially in men's roles. The whole "nice guy" thing was a joke 15 years ago, everyone knew that being "nice" was not something that got you a girlfriend, and guys who thought it would work for them were ridiculed. The problem is mainstream society isn't offering an alternative role. Any deviation from "be nice and respectful and polite" is met with accusations of misogyny, but if you actually do what they say and get ignored, you also get called an entitled incel. The message is contradictory, if you want women to like you you have to be kind and polite and nice, but you absolutely cannot feel as though being kind and nice and polite means a girl will want to date you. So what's the point of the advice?They just hate the truth of the matter. They certainly would have no shame in admitting that men like conventionally attractive women with big boobs and small waists, in fact this is a common accusation. But they will never admit that women like drug dealers and football players, instead women are perfect angels who like Good Men, and if you do the things good men do and still can't get a girlfriend, it's because women can tell that deep down you're a Bad Man and have a bad personality (unlike the drug dealers and abusers and criminals).
>>44607318There are no youngshits on TERF island
>>44609287well ultimately the problem is that they will instead get advice from andrew tate. I would rather teenage boys get realistic advice about what women like and what women expect from relationships, from a mature adult who isn't just trying to sell them something. that's much better than boys getting taught by internet grifters, or by people who are outright lying because they want to do a bit of social engineering.
>>44607318This is being required in the country known for having ultra painfully polite men. It's not for English men it's for Pakis and other immigrants that keep raping white girls. The real effects from it will be negligible because you can't politely ask IQ to evolve.
>>44609300blah blah blah"something that got you a girlfriend"blah blah blah
>>44609287Nta but then you’re a retardEspecially if you don’t see the contradiction Retard
>>44609046>The worst part about this is you know [schizophrenic ramblings] thank u very cool
believe it or not, also a housing problem
women: lmao my pussy controls menmen: please have sex with me please have sex with me please have sex with me
>>44609228>>44609300>>44609312>I know what every woman wants from every man>hm? no, I'm not a womanhave you considered that the problem might be something other than that you aren't scary enough
>>44609763thanks but I am a woman actually, I just remember what it was like to grow up as a boy in the 2010sI never said "every woman", I said "average woman" right at the beginning. There are men and women who want different things, but what average men and women want is pretty obvious if you just look at the porn that men and women consume the most. funnily enough porn for straight women features a lot more rapists than it does male feminists. Why is that?all I'm saying is that there's little social incentive for being a good person. There's an extremely wide gap between behavior that is considered moral and behavior that is considered attractive, in really any interpersonal relationship. If you teach an individual moral behavior rather than attractive (in the most general sense) behavior, is it the individual or the society that stands to benefit?
>>44609819do you actually want to be raped
>>44609853of course not, but that doesn't mean I don't like the fantasy
>>44609861the problem with incel ideology's view of this is that it equates women liking the fantasy with actually wanting to be raped and for men to be all strongman and rapey outside of a consensual context
>>44609984yes but I'm saying that if normal society doesn't give any more advice than "be nice", people will learn from incel / manosphere stuff insteadthere has to be a balance. The current system is clearly not working, dating and gender relations are the worst they've ever been
>>44609522Straight men are beyond cucked and gay men are only accepted if they become docile pets
>>44610013>girls happen to not want you>I know, it's because I'm not enough like andrew tate!people who think this way are dysgenic and shouldn't reproduce
>>44610068but obviously andrew tate is not having trouble getting sex. The average 13 year old boy would love to have the lifestyle that andrew tate has / hadthis is exactly what I'm talking about, you refuse to accept that someone who's a bad person can win at life. When teenage boys see andrew tate they see someone who won at life. You can't convince them to want to be kind and respectful as it's own reward, when there seems to be endless reward and no downside to being a drug dealer on steroids or something. There needs to be a reconciliation between the moralist position and the real-world incentive structure in some way, because the moralist position already lost like a decade ago.
>>44610131>being a drug dealer on steroidssure they can do that if they want, I don't care. but if they expect to treat women like andrew tate does and be respected by women they're doomed
we should have pro incel classes to teach men that women are holes who will lie and cheat you and you should ignore them and be with men instead
>>44610238Men should prioritize friendships and camaraderie
>>44610246men should prioritize exclusive sexual relations with other men and ignoring women and treating them like cops, anything you say to a woman will be used against you when convenient for them
We live in a matriarchydenial of this fact is complicitydown with the matriarchy!male freedom now!
>>44610369based
Doesn't that fuckass island consider BDSM to be violence against women? It's like reverse sharia.
>>44610131I don't see any social benefit to reconciliation desu, and it's also completely unsustainable. The world is plagued by inequality, oppression, and climate catastrophe. Instead of looking for ways to fix them(Moralism), everyone is trying to hoard as many resources as possible, whether human capital or wealth, and run away when the bell toll for them. There is no way you can say "I draw the line at breaking a law, but the rest is ok!"The Tate brothers are a symbol of this decline. They contribute nothing to the world, yet they amass vast amounts of wealth, proving that society prioritizes and admires the wrong people.
>>44610234man, why are you lying?do you genuinely believe your own shit? It's fucking crazy.Every mildly famous serial killer mass rapist that gains any notoriety starts receiving love letters from women, and yet you want me to believe foids don't simply go for the most violent retards they can find? Is this some sort of psychological defense mechanism where you don't want to acknowledge the truth?
>>44610602it's a caveman brain thing. women are attracted to men who can hunt and kill. that doesn't mean they actually like being the ones getting hunted and killed
>>44607318MOID OBEY YOUR MASTER
>>44609228It's almost like... schools aren't designed to teach people how to fucking hook up you porn addict pedotroon. They are designed to teach civil behavior.
>>44609300Unironically ignoring women make them get interested
>>44610699>insults and says something completely unrelated
>>44610755Illiterate pedo troon*
>>44610699>They are designed to teach civil behaviorif schools are going to teach civil behavior, they ought to at least teach something real and useful, instead of trying to do hamfisted social engineeringthis is becoming like a biologist teaching lysenkoism, where the material being taught is no longer practically useful, and the ultimate purpose is not to benefit the student but to promote ideological change in society. It is an irresponsible use of the inherent power that schools have over children if the material they are being taught gives them a social disadvantage over children who have avoided being taught.
>>44610912You cannot teach an intuitive subject that opens you up to legal liability in the US
>>44609522>>44610049They fear the volcel nirvanamaxxer.
>>44610641you've been brainwashed by the thing that controls you (patriarchy)so long as you continue to see women as breeding holes to fuck, we're all fucked. fuck you
>>44611010>insults and says something completely unrelated
>>44609228sounds like too much work. probably better off acting like Elliot Rodger
>>44609159eden "cocksucker" hills
>>44611010I'm a tranny
>>44609403>rrrpMany such cases unfortunately
