lesbians are raping me

>>44618669
I transitioned to mtf so I could

[ ] Have a boyfriend finally
[ ] Get married to a man
[ ] Feel like I'm finally in the right body
[x] Hunt pussy like an apex predator mimicking it's prey


Why does it keep happening?

What if my cisffriend took me there?

>>44618714
I’m the third option, but as a pan tran I feel like the fourth one whenever I talk to cis women so I only go after men

>>44618669
Grow up most of the stuff about trans women in women’s spaces is either rage bait to get views or propaganda by politicaly motivated groups to control women’s bodies such as the bathroom bans where now in the uk member dog the general public can harass women who don’t conform to their idea of womanhood for simply using the bathroom or changing room, stop falling for their propaganda once their down with trans people they’ll go for homosexual people next your just making it easier for them

>>44618669
mogs me tbhon
mostly due to being white

>>44618669
Exactly. Trans MEN need to stop pretending to be women. I don't care if you are "AFAB" and "identify as a woman", anon. This is a space for real women, not "women" whose gender was chosen for them by their dad's gametes.

>>44618714
Audibly chuckled at this, transbians stay winning tho

>>44618669
i disagree but picrel is why hugboxing needs to stop

>>44618669
>newly minted woman
I was born this way. No one can make themselves gay/trans
But women aren't born that way, they can be made.

>>44618714
The two first options can be done without "transitioning". Transgenderism in all its forms is so homophobic and out of touch with reality

>>44618955
in the same way ugly latinas can get dates from white race fetishists. no one wants that.

>>44618955
The narrative "I felt I was in the wrong body before transitioning" is also a lie. They don't change sex, they don't change bodies. It's the same body, it was only castrated through feminizing hormones and mutilatory surgeries (if they get to this castration point)

>>44618989
It's exactly what you get when you "transition": you get chasers (tranny fetishizers)

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>>44618669
I promise I'll care when women will stop invading men's spaces and stop suing to be admitted into men's spaces.
Until then? Fuck off. I'm glad the troons are doing this to foids and I hope they up the ante.
The very notion of women's spaces is illegitimate.

>>44619090
It says they have used, not that they regularly use.

>>44618955
this

>>44619158
Cut the crap.
www.metroweekly.com/2023/07/florida-gay-nude-resort-cant-ban-women-judge-rules/
This shit happens as an absolute rule.
Foids' behavior in gay bars is absolutely appalling and almost never punished.
Anyone who simps for foids should be shot in the head, unironically.

>>44619226
>Help, the foids want to rape me!
Take your meds faggot.

>>44619432
No, YOU take your meds. And stop projecting your rape fetish upon me, foid!
YOU want me to give a shit about so-called "women's spaces". I support the utter destruction of all "women's spaces" in the name of equality. Every single men's space has been already destroyed by foids. Trannies are doing the Lord's work in bringing about equality in our lifetimes.

>>44618669
Nobody's forcing you to date or even interact with tgirls.

>>44619500
>YOU want me to give a shit about so-called "women's spaces".
I'm not the op.
Merely specified that the 49% number means have used, not regularly use.
Go yell at a cloud.

>>44618669
I just looked in the mirror, she mogs me

>>44619535
>Go yell at a cloud
right back at ya, foid.
stop projecting your rape fetish upon me. this kind of gaslighting darvo shit works with boomers and simps, not with me.
You didn't "merely specify", you actively try to deny that half of women are guilty of exactly the same thing OP accuses trannies of. That's the argument. It doesn't matter if it's "regularly" or "occasionally" or whatever the fuck. What matters is that half of all women invaded men's spaces. Which means your "rape" bullshit is demonstrably false.
If foids were so afraid of being raped, they wouldn't go into men's spaces. OP's (and your) whole argument is a lie and you know it. You just hope to pass your misandry and defence of female privilege as "concern" for foids.

>>44618859
No one is born a woman. You can't get give birth to an adult.

>>44619007
It's the same body with a radical change to most secondary sex characteristics. Including the endocrine system, which impacts many aspects of the body. Cope and sethe.

Lesbians bars still exist ?!

>>44619432
I did, that's why cis women chasers want to rape me.

>>44619527
I should be allowed to always call them he without getting in trouble.

>>44619704
Outside of blue areas, absolutely. If you opened one in Seattle or something it will be taken over by trans and then real lesbians will stop going

>>44619742
You are allowed that, sir.

>>44619761
no, that's considered "harassment"
and I am seen as an "asshole" for calling a male crossdresser a he instead of she
you set up these social expectations

>>44619782
>other people might have opinions
That doesn't mean you're not allowed, sir.
Yes, normal not-insane people might think being an asshole is a bad thing. But you're still allowed (and in fact legally protected by free speech legislation) to be an asshole.
You aren't owed a social milieu that caters to every single extremist opinion, sir. You really aren't that special.

>>44619799
>That doesn't mean you're not allowed, sir.
you want others to believe I am a harmful, antisocial person for not calling male crossdressers she. You want to make me the enemy. You are the asshole for asking me to lie and pressing me. If you LOOK like a woman, you will get called she, ya know?

>>44619782
Being called an asshole isn't getting in trouble you moron. Why are men like you so dumb about free speech?

>>44619877
you want to socially turn people against me for not humoring your fictitious gender identity
I am not doing anything wrong by calling trans women he; you are men.

>>44619811
I swear, free speech absolutists right wingers are the dumbest guys you will ever meet.

>>44619885
And I am not doing anything wrong by refusing to go along with your delusion that you are a decent person. I am doing nothing wrong by calling you an asshole.

>>44619909
you are a delusional male, not a real woman

>>44619889
death to all trannies
kill them all
murder them in their sleep
off with their heads

>>44619936
And after saying all that, you still hold on to your delusion not to be an asshole? You need therapy, not people humoring your "I'm a good person" delusions.

>>44619568
Holy persecution complex.
For real, take your meds.

>>44619811
>you want others to believe I am a harmful
no. I genuinely don't care either way.
>You want to make me the enemy
No. You are the enemy already. You made yourself the enemy when you decided to harass me.
>If you LOOK like a woman, you will get called she, ya know?
Nigga cis women are routinely called he because of cretins like you who got sick in the head with tranny derangement syndrome.
So cut the crap. You are free to be an asshole and everyone else is free to notice.

>>44619936
No bait is too obvious.

>>44619568
>If foids were so afraid of being raped, they wouldn't go into men's spaces. OP's (and your) whole argument is a lie and you know it
I never said such thing, dork.
I was mocking you, because you act is if a ''foid'' is gonna rape you.
You're so angry at something? that you can't even read things right.
Unironically, take your meds.

>>44620009
>stop noticing the systemic and systematic misandry
No.
Noticing will continue until morale improves. And no amount of gaslighting will change that.
It's foids who have a persecution complex. It's a tragedy that only 30% of foids are on meds. It should be about 90%.

>>44619692
>No one is born a woman. You can't get give birth to an adult.
Edgy. Unfortunately, wrong.
A woman starts as a baby girl.
Come on, you know it.

>>44620029
>you act is if a ''foid'' is gonna rape you
stop projecting your rape fetish upon me.

>>44619090
This.

If men can't have single sex spaces to themselves then neither should foids

>>44620043
I have a rape fetish?
You're a bitter little faggot.
Let me guess, used to be a Chud, correct?

>>44618669
STOP INVADING GAY SPACES
You don't want to love women, you want to avoid men. You're abusive and patronizing, leave lesbians alone.

Me, a trans woman, watching as transphobes fight with people who use words like "foids" and "misandry":

Wow, I hate all of you.

>>44620070
misandry is a huge unsolved problem

>>44619700
Not radical enough. You will forever be male, sir

>>44620088
>>44620436
Have fun with that logic. The enemy of my enemy is also my enemy, but at least I get to watch y'all fight. Not much of a comfort, I'll grant you, as the misogynists always win in the end; they are the ones who hold the reins of actual political and economic power.
But at this point, shadenfraude at the ultimately harmless internet fighting is all I have left.

>>44620540
>the misogynists always win in the end
Let's hope you're right.

>>44618714
MALE TRANSBIAN GAMETES
EXPLOOOOODING
INTO FEMALE CERVIXES

I don't think there is a single anti trans post on /lgbt/ that isn't either:
>ugly people exist therefore they're all groomers
or
>I'm scared that there are people whose sexual orientation is a bit fuzzy or less simple than gay and lesbian are
Don't you get bored of this level of repetition?

>>44620557
Let's not. Trans women are women. I have been groped, catcalled, and treated as less intelligent by men ever since I started passing.
TERFs may be too blind to see that my rights and theirs are going to be lost to the same people, but I am not.
If misogynists win, there will only ever be two possibilities: either they hate me for being trans, or they treat me as lesser for being a woman.
I may be enjoying watching people uselessly fight on the internet, but only because I have long accepted that I am not getting out of this mess safely.

>>44620822
You confuse me for someone who cares.
I actively support the rolling back of women's rights. Women are terrible people by default. Entire civilization knew this until 5 seconds ago and it's rapidly finding out again that our ancestors were clearly right.
Women's and men's rights should be reverted to the '20s. The 1820s that is. Most people shouldn't vote. About 99% of women and 80% of men should have no pathway to ever voting, actually.

>>44620850
Oh, I made no mistakes. I don't pretend that I can appeal to your better nature. As I said, I have long accepted that I am not getting out of this mess safely.
I have at least a bit of hope that the TERF may realize the reality of the situation. I don't pretend you would ever be willing to sacrifice power over her or me.
Maybe you want me dead, maybe de-transitioned, or maybe you are like the guy who told me that I should live as property, just like he said every other woman should.
Regardless, if you win, I have lost. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

>>44619811
everybody thinks that you are an antisocial freak gincel, and not just because of how much you hate trannies

>>44618669
ive been raped by two cis women and zero men and zero trannies and have myself raped zero anyone

>>44618669
I don't even go outside dude leave me alone

>>44620916
>Maybe you want me dead, maybe de-transitioned
>or maybe you are like the guy who told me that I should live as property
Actually no.
I'm a big fan of trannies. I'm not a big fan of some of the ideas that trannies peddle and totally not a fan of cis women.
Most of homophobia and nearly all transphobia comes from cis women. You're just too mired in an extremist ideology to realize that. Your hopes on TERFs are evidence of that.
TERFs hate you because they're misandrists, nona. And will always hate you. And they will always want you detrooned.

>>44620967
Hey, me, the trans woman from >>44620916
That really sucks. Genuinely, it does. Women are capable of rape, just like anyone else. Anyone who tried to justify sexual violence against you is an asshole.
I have never been SA'd by a woman, so I won't pretend like I understand your unique situation. The worst another woman has ever done to me was when a cis woman friend forced a kiss on me while I was resisting at a club. I hope you can heal and get the compassion you need.

I also hope you understand that the actions of two women are not representative of an entire gender. Two women being monsters is not a good reason to justify all of us being reduced to property (or possibly dust, in my case).
Being a victim does not justify hoping an entire swath of people loses access to their humanity.

>>44621089
>I have never been SA'd by a woman
>proceeds to describe how she was SA'd by a woman, in fact
NTA but this is the extremist ideology I was talking about here >>44621078
You always give a pass to women even when they actively harm you.
You don't pass better by being a misandrist, nonny.
>Being a victim does not justify hoping an entire swath of people loses access to their humanity
Not voting isn't losing access to humanity, LOL.

>>44621078
Oh, I know most TERFs won't get better either. But most women aren't TERFs. Most feminists aren't TERFs.
My mother is a wonderful supporter, even if it did take her time to come around. My cis women friends are wonderful too. Even if you could somehow convince me that the misogynists don't want anything bad to happen to me, what kinda person abandons her friends?

But I have met misogynists. Either they don't see me as a woman and mostly want something that will lead to my death. Or they do see me as a woman and are more than happy to have me as an object.
There is no outcome where they win and I don't lose, even if you are somehow an exception. And even in your ideal, there is no world where the misogynists win and the people I care about don't lose.

So sorry. No matter how much you "like" trans women, there is no world in which I come out of this safe and sound, still seen as a woman, and in charge of my own body and life.

>>44621138
>But most women aren't TERFs
True.
>Most feminists aren't TERFs
False, lol. Feminism is by definition misandrist. You will grow up eventually to figure this one out.
>Even if you could somehow convince me that the misogynists don't want anything bad to happen to me, what kinda person abandons her friends?
Your so-called "friends" will abandon you, nona. I honestly hope you remember this conversation when that time comes. I wish you great health and long life so you can live through the sudden realization that we were right all along.
Women's "support" for trannies is always conditional on not bothering female privilege. I don't question your mother (and you shouldn't either). But I absolutely call bullshit on your cis women friends (and you should too, literally for your safety).
You think you'll benefit from the overwhelming female ingroup bias. I don't blame you for hoping that. But you're wrong. When the times get even a liiiiiitle bit tough, cis women will turn on you at the drop of a hat without even blinking.
>And even in your ideal, there is no world where the misogynists win and the people I care about don't lose
What you don't understand yet is that cis women deserve to lose. Because all of their gains are illegitimate and actively harmful for civilization. Women have proven themselves to be even worse than defective men. They can't be trusted with power.

>>44621121
I've been forced into kissing men too; I just call it sexual harassment because I don't like calling other things men have done to me rape. Sorry. I just use SA as a stand-in for the word rape when talking about myself because it makes me feel worse. I should have explained that.
>You always give a pass to women even when they actively harm you.
I don't. I confronted her, and she apologized and recognized that what she did was wrong.
I hold men to the same standard.
>You don't pass better by being a misandrist, nonny.
I'm not trying to pass better. I am trying to talk about my experiences.
> Not voting isn't losing access to humanity, LOL.
> The 1820s, that is.
Do you think voting rights were the only thing different for women in the 1820s? And do you think women losing the right to vote wouldn't cause us to lose other rights?
>>44621179
> False, lol. Feminism is by definition misandrist. You will grow up eventually to figure this one out.
Most feminists are not TERFs
>Your so-called "friends" ... right all along.
When I was SA'd by a guy I was dating, one was willing to come help me process it and get away from him at the cost of her own sleep. You are wrong; my friends will not abandon me.
> Women's "support" ... safety).
They have been willing to argue with TERFs on my behalf, to fight for inclusion, to demand organizational policy changes for the benefit of other trans women. They have been on my side even when it cost them the support of other cis women. I will not believe that was all fake, for what? The approval of one trans woman? No, we stand together when it matters.
One of them has not forgotten how other girls petitioned to have her banned from the girls' changing rooms because she came out as bi.
>You think you'll ... without even blinking.
I'm sure some women would. Not them.
> What you don't understand ... trusted with power.
Even if that were the truth, and it's not, where would that leave me? Nowhere good, I wager.

>>44621078
>>44621179
most trannies are unwilling to hear your message because it feels like misgendering themselves to admit you're right sorry anon its gonna be hard always for u to gain tranny allies.

>>44621269
That is to say, using the word rape about my worst experiences with men makes me feel worse. Again, to clarify.

>>44621089
>justify all of us being reduced to property (or possibly dust, in my case).
i never said any of that
i dont want anyone reduced to property
i want to let people know that trannies are usually prey and very rarely predators

>>44618714
based
we need a revolution of the transbians, all pussy shall get knocked up

>>44620581
thats just the usual troll trying to bait us, ze trannies

>>44621345
I was referring to whoever said
> The 1820s, that is.
Do you truly not recognize that the laws of the 1820s did not really treat women as fully independent human beings?

>>44621345
Ps. To be clear: I am a trans woman who was arguing with a misogynist after saying I wasn't going to argue with the misogynist. Because I am apparently not smart.
I'm sure the TERF is watching somewhere just like I was when I entered the conversation after watching them argue.

I feel like maybe you are an unrelated anon/nona that got caught in the replies. Sorry.

>>44621442
i was not at all a part of that conversation

>>44621564
Yeah, that's fair, anonymity can make things confusing. Sorry.

>>44618669
okay, I won't

>>44621366
Heterosexuality is no revolution, sir. It's precisely the fucked up status quo.

You guys do understand that lesbians like pussy, right? They don’t want you there lol

>>44621366
I hate to agree with a TERF, and I obviously disagree with her reasoning in >>44621598, but yeah, that's stupid.
Sorry, literally no side likes your TNWO kink.