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>stop watching porn
>agp thoughts go away

It's really that shrimple.
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>loads up dress-up doll RPG where you ALWAYS have a centered shot of an anime girl's ass

OOooOOOOOooaoohhhhHHhHHHHHHh

TAKING IT OUT
FUCK IT
TAKING OUT MY OL' MANCLITTY

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONER
I AM AN
AUTO
GOOOOOOOOOOOONER
PHILE
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GOON YOUR SISSY CLITTY RIGHT NOW
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>>44623846
>>44623849
Kek
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> stop watching ponr
> Agp comes stronger and more beautiful
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How the fuck do you make it past week 2? I always go through withdrawals and relapse here. I will cure my AGP god dammit.
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>>44624100
Best of luck.
I believe it will never go away . Stop hating yourself
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>>44623836
Never watched porn
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>>44623836
>agp thoughts go away
and yet here you are...
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>>44624100
The only way out is to accept that you're a little sissy slut and always will be.
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>>44624100
>I will cure my AGP god dammit.
there is no cure only maintenence. Just put some panties on and get railed a few times a year. Then back to real life. Its really that shrimple
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>>44623836
>stop watching porn
>the crossdressing dreams return
nyooooo…
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>>44623836
im a hsts cursed by porn addiction, my gynephilia goes away when i stop watching porn because real women are either ugly or children-like and real men are, but i cant pass a week without it
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>>44625381
Id rather stay an incel than become a boomersissy desu
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>do masculine shit
>realize women or troons will never be able to do things like this
>put agp in it's place even though it doesn't go away
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>>44623836
fakest shit I've ever read
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>>44623924
this happened to me too. it's awful.
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>>44624100
>>44626212
>>44623924
it all happened to me. agp without ever watching porn. Tried dating a girl and watching porn and not watching porn and working out and therapy and getting a job - it's all a cope and AGP is incurable.


>>44624399
>>44625381
>it will never go away. Stop hating yourself
>there is no cure only maintenence
this stuff is all true and the only way to live with AGP (besides transitioning, obviously)

the whole nofap thing is a spook and AGP is not porn related.
AGP is with you for life and you will keep envying women and all that shit
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>>44628831
did you transition, and if so did it alleviate your AGP?
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>>44628831
>>44628856
I am in early transition at 34 after a lifetime of AGP. I was coping fine like >>44625381 says, but AGP always interfered with my relationships. I felt I could never fully open up to my partners, like my masculine exterior promises something my real self couldn't deliver. Transition is now or never for me agewise, and I figure worst case my appearance will help filter for better matching partners I can be open with.

>>44629095
nta but the libido drop you get at the outset of hrt made me so much more productive. I used to lose entire weekends to crossdressing and grindr hookups, I feel like I'm free from that. However I've been mirror gazing more frequently now, so who knows where it goes.
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>>44629126
i'm late 30s and have no desire to transition (neverpasser) so I just cope with porn - nut and forget, at least for the rest of the day.
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>>44629145
Hey, whatever works. Do you have a relationship or any plans for one considering your agp? How would/do you navigate it?
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>>44629204
I don't bother to ask girls out, but I've been in relationships because they typically ask me out (attractive face)
when I'm in the male role any AGP disappears and my personality is usually dominant
it's more during my alone time that I think about it/fap to it
but yea I'll never transition because I see no reason to. Maybe if I already looked like a girl? obviously that's extremely rare anyways but my standards are elevated from years of trans porn addiction.
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>>44626529
>>44628831
Agp is a beautiful condition. You won't change it. It comes from deep inside you. Stop hating yourself and embrace it. You'll be happier
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>>44628831
>AGP is with you for life
True. What's better, live a life hating yourself for something you can change, or embrace it and love it. Second option is wiser.
> and you will keep envying women and all that shit
I'm at a point in which I don't even envy women. I now live my beautiful feminine male body. I love how it looks in lingerie. I love being like this. Makes me feel more authentic, more "whole", more "me"
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I haven't looked at porn for the last 12 years
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>>44629346
nta but I've tried accepting it in the past to no avail. sadly I think both my puritanical religious upbringing and ocd have made it seemingly impossible to embrace. I always feel extreme disgust, both moral and pathogenic, when indulging in fantasies. I feel like doing so is an insult to an impossible standard of purity which I aspire to, which of course I inevitably fail to achieve.
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>>44629454
I wish I could adopt this purity mindset, all I do is jerk off lol
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>>44629552
it's not like this mindset entirely stops me from jerking off. I still do because the agp urges win out in the end against my common sense, only the aftermath is more depressing. I think I'd rather not be obsessed with these ideals and instead be able to occasionally indulge in these fantasies without feeling extreme guilt and remorse.
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>>44629095
i''m >>44628831, don't know why another anon answered in my place...

and yes I ended up transitioning at 23. I turned out to be a luckshit and so my repping life vs my tranny life is like hell vs heaven.
Yes AGP isnt really an issue anymore and I get to indulge in it in normal day to day life. I'm still "AGP" though, I guess: I prefer aesthetics that I preferred before, I have most of the same kinks etc
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>>44629454
I'm not a psychologist.
I'm on EMDR therapy and I've made progress. It's helping accept me more and love myself more. I tried all other therapies and didn't work. Only this one allows me to experience happiness.
Perhaps it can help you
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>>44629639
my thought is that if I transitioned fully I would just be horny all the time as I'd be living my AGP fetish 24/7. which sounds like a crazy existence that I may not want
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>>44626501
masculine trannies are a thing you knoe
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>>44629639
what did you look like pretransition
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>>44625381
>Just put some panties on and get railed a few times a year
literally the beginning of the blacked bimbo tranner pipeline.
>t. blacked bimbo tranner
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>>44629679
this is untrue and silly
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>>44629679
NTA. due to decreased libido, hrt usually mitigates agp. this was also my personal experience, and it's surprisingly nice. honestly I'm tempted to say that my nearly dead sex drive is a huge reason why I'm still on hrt after a few years with unimpressive progress.
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>>44629679
>if I transitioned fully I would just be horny all the time as I'd be living my AGP fetish 24/7
I wear dresses and skirts with pantyhose, I sometimes wear heels - all that shit was peak agp trigger for me when repping, but I got used to it super quick as a passoid.
That's why I said "agp isnt really an issue anymore" - because once you're used to this stuff, it just becomes mostly normal ciswoman-level AGP stuff, like enjoying how you look in the mirror when you're dolled up.
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>>44629721
>>44629729
>>44629741
this makes sense. it's still all hypothetical as I don't have a desire to transition apart from the erotic aspect
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>>44629747
yes, in that case transitioning would be counterintuitive, as you would effectively kill your fantasy.
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>>44629714
twink build, pale, cute-ish face - girls liked me in high school.
I tried working out when repping (as mentioned >>44628831) but staid twinkish and thankfully started HRT before further damange could be done (though I had already lost hair on my temples and body was super hairy).
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porn made me gay, and if there was a way to undo it i would've figured it out by now. best to just accept whatever you got. it's like a permanent disability
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>>44629754
probably. I guess the one thing that makes me question "am I trans?" is that I would transition if I already looked like a girl. but that's only because I'd fail at looking like a guy and could no longer be one. maybe that's the force fem lane... damn I am a gooner
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>>44629756
sounds like me except I'll probably never pass
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>>44623836
haven't watched porn in months. Sometimes I went years without any. I rarely look at visual porn anyway, 99% is written and has little to no sex.
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Damn, I love talking to people like me.
Thanks, beautiful people. Agp is beautiful. You are beautiful
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>>44629912
no it's not, it makes me compulsively jerk off every day and I'm so sick it but I can't stop
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>>44629126
>I am in early transition at 34

How is it going so far?

You got any tips or resources for transitioning late?
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>>44629694
gross
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>>44630526
why
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>>44623836
i do that but then when i see anything sexual again it blasts out my brain like a 100,000 psi can of gas
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what if i wasn't agp before but then i became hot and then became agp after
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>>44623836
>be agp guy
>be horny
>get tranny thoughts
>jack off
>tranny thoughts go away
>continue living a normal life
>repeat
>be horny
>get tranny thoughts again (as per usual)
>jack off
>horny goes away
>tranny thoughts don't
fuck.
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>>44629919
You need therapy to learn to enjoy and love this.
Pleasure is beautiful
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The depression inducing dysphoria doesn't leave even in isolation from nsfw rated materials.

But maybe it's just my brain being silly :3
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>>44631169
>talk to a the rapist to stop feeling guilty about masturbating
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>>44630126
Wish I started wayy sooner but it's going well. I'm 5'7 with a young face so that is a big advantage for me. I live in blue state tranny utopia so my social circle has already tripled. It is hard tho, transphobia is a real thing, and I'm not talking about tumblr-era microaggressions

Laser hair removal is the best thing I've ever done, I'd say every AGP should start there even if you don't plan to transition. The resuls were more immediate and satifying than even hrt was.
Have a good skincare routine. Again, even if you don't plan to transition you should be taking care of yourself.
Transitioning older means you have more money/resources to get what you want, and doctors are more likely to listen to you about this.
Transition takes time, so be patient with yourself, trust the vision, and enjoy the process. Oh and grow your hair out.
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>get srs
>pov becomes the porn
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>>44631997
>Laser hair removal is the best thing I've ever done, I'd say every AGP should start there even if you don't plan to transition.
I wanna do it.
I just need money
Shaving is the worst
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>>44631167
It's perhaps within you. A part of you.
Why fight it and be miserable
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>>44631997
>you have more money/resources
I am glad that you are in this position, sadly I am not.

>Have a good skincare routine
Where would I start with this?

Also, if you wanna talk long term about this past when the thread 404s, do you have a discord or something? I'm fine to post mine for you to add me if so
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>>44632153
I got a lower price by pricing by section and adding them together. Act like I don't really know what I want and get a quote for just legs, then add butt, then underarms, and what if I want face? By the end I got basically full body (minus the places I don't have hair anyway) for a couple hundred cheaper

>>44632630
>Where would I start with this?
Daily sunscreen and moisturizer, wash daily, exfoliate, have a supply of clean microfiber face towels (do not reuse them without washing them) for daily use, maybe get a night cream to replenish while you sleep, silk or satin pillowcase washed regularly and air dried, etc.

>Also, if you wanna talk long term about this past when the thread 404s, do you have a discord or something? I'm fine to post mine for you to add me if so
Sure
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>>44632783
>got basically full body (minus the places I don't have hair anyway) for a couple hundred cheaper
Thanks
Will try uwu
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you can cure AGP but most people aren't willing to go deep enough in their own heads to do it.
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>>44632783
>Sure

My username is here: https://pastebin.com/Ak84EpL9
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>>44623836
>got married
>sex with my wife
>stopped watching porn
>no more agp
just needed a women to cure it lmao
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>>44635177
I've dated lots of women and I was never cured

Also you're not cured if you're here lol
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>still gay
this shit sucks i want a refund
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>>44626212
>Id rather stay an incel than become a boomersissy desu
then you are tarded and afraid of life
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>>44632004
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>>44632204
nah i was just larping but that used to be me but not anymore im doing better now
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>>44623836
probably because you're not trans. some of us are. go get a job moid
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>>44624100
genuinely doesn't work. i thought it was my loser neet lifestyle so i got a job, started college entered a relationship, anything to distract myself but it just doesn't go away. finally gave in and trooned out 6 months ago
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>>44629145
>>44629325
You sound like me except the AGP never went away during dating (with one or two girlfriends it got weaker, but it was easily always there), and while I have desire to transition because I'm old and ugly, I am getting dangerously close to manmoding.
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>>44639362
I'd manmode if it didn't give me boobs, I'd rather keep my pecs. one anon said they felt emotionally open and caring and loving on E and that would help me a lot.
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>>44639589
I'm overweight, so I'm used to having manboobs. I figure if genetics is "on my side'" and they get noticably worse, I'll just blame it on being fat.
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>>44623836
i gave in and let me trans gf pinkpill me. her cock has never been harder.
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>>44639362
How old?



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