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>no agpgen up
i wanna agp post but this board has been overrrun with 4tran fake hsts failed normies who don't know what "meta-attaction" means

oh well
come post your agp/mef thoughts nona!
/mef/ princesses allowed too because why not :p
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>>44631413
how would you classify meta attraction? I feel that I'm AGAMP, but I don't really care. I don't obsess over positively or negatively.

Does that make me fall in the mef camp
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>>44631413
how do i come to terms with the fact i am likely trans after years of questioning when all i did in my youth was goon to sissy hypno porn. im this close to getting e but cant shake the thoguht im not really trans because "the sissy hypno worked" (i know thats not how it works)
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>>44631555
aren't a lot of sissies just repressing trannies that use the fetish to cope? that could be you
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>>44631563
i really hope so. even knowing it would make my life harder id be more comfortable knowing for sure that im trans instead of always questioning whether or not its just my mind raped by porn consumption.
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>>44631555
stop thinking
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>>44631605
i wish i could
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>>44631555
get on E, feel like a normal human being, continue enjoying what you enjoy.
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>>44631555
other boys were watching regular and/or gay porn but i was watching/reading sissy shit well before i ever knew what a trans person is
i've never tried patches but subq e injections are really clean and easy and painless
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>>44631624
I'd say you're trans just based on how much and how long you've thought about all this. No cis person does that.
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>>44631555
Who cares if you're fake trans retard
As long as you'd enjoy being a troon/woman if you're lucky, go right ahead

>t. Agp as fuck and happily transitioned after 11 years
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>>44631430
To be meta attracted is to be attracted to the idea of being with a man, instead of being attracted to men. It's a form or behavioural agp.
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>>44631413
Is it MEFy to look back fondly on the first day or two after SRS? I distinctly remember how I could still tell which parts down there used to be what on my former male anatomy, and how humiliating it felt to so viscerally feel what I'd done to myself...
I don't feel that way down there anymore; it all just feels like it's always been a pussy.
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>>44631413
Baby, beautiful baby
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You are based op.
Little by little we will change the perception of agp in this board.
Agp is beautiful
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>>44631413
Is wanting to be a femboy/trap/otokonoko AGP? Technically I don't want to be a woman. But I want to be indistinguishable from one apart from having flat chest and penis.
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I have AGP and I'm not ashamed.
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>>44631413
Is this meta-attraction, that I want to make out with a fat man's nasty butthole, buried by his weight while he plays with my body?
Idk if it is genuine androphilia because i wouldnt do it before ffs, I want to be cute and it's not just the asshole that makes me horny, the contrast between a cute face and a filthy butt also turns me on.
It happens with everything that turns me on, both vanilla stuff and kinky things, that there's genuine androphilia, but there's also the ugly bastard with a pretty girl thing that makes me so horny
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>>44632257
Yes, you're attracted to the idea of being a pretty girl who's sexually degraded by men, that's very meta attracted
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Is it normal to be into ugly bastards as AGP?
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I need someone to love me
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>>44632248
Beautiful .
I'm happy for you
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>>44632241
Yeah.
You like feeling feminine
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has anyone here started out agp but got less agp when going through transition? I used to get gender euphoria boners and being attracted to my own reflection pre-hrt. but now I'm about 1 year into hrt and now i don't have really any of these feelings/thoughts anymore
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>>44632607
That's normal if it's being replaced by attraction to guys.
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>>44632607
>>44632736
It's pretty normal. I'm a bishit and this was kinda my experience. Before starting hrt I was probably 80-20 split attraction between women and men, now i'm closer to like 60-40. But I don't get excited about the thought of me being a girl anymore, it's just who I am nowadays.
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>>44632364
I'm an ugly bastard and I'm agp
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anyone here have a bimbofication kink?

>take new medication
>makes me feel really dumb and forgetful, like I'm constantly drunk but with less buzz and more coziness instead
>also skyrockets my sex drive too for some reason
>all of this triggers my bimbofication kink hard
>end up dressing prettier and acting more affable
>feel kind of free like I'm no longer under any obligation to be serious and I can just be a dumb fun-loving girl instead
>eventually it starts interfering with my work and I have to come off
>go back to normal
>realise in horror just how fucking depraved I am

i need to be shot in the head tbqh, i'm actually dangerous levels of mentally unwell
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>>44632951
You need therapy
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>>44633074
>go tell your therapist about your most shameful opticsnvke kinks so they can just say "you need to love yourself more!"

I'm okay thanks
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I think it would be best to disconnect the degeneracy from the identity here
no matter what 90+% of people will just see as some new age eunuch(if you pass and they know), or a straight up man in a dress(if you dont pass) anyways
being "faketrans" is a psyop to encourage repression
>"but but I'm so scared what if I'm really not supposed to bedcome a boobtwink after all"
literally why does it matter? youre just a weird type of male at the end of the day
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>>44631894
imho, I like the idea of men, but I'm not fully attracted to them. But that still counts, I like the way they act. it's cute.

some of it is them making me feel like a woman, but a lot of it isn't. I'm insane egotistical and self-centred, I know I'm a woman. So don't count me as AGP.
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>gf is hsts and I'm agp
what do I do girls?
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>>44633124
>most shameful opticsnvke
It's not if you're mature and understand that you don't need to make your sex life public.
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>>44633124
>they can just say "you need to love yourself more!"
Yes. Love it. It's part of you. It won't go away. Chose happiness and self love.
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>>44633376
Does she know you want to troon?
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>>44633376
Enjoy life. She should understand, that you like to feel girly. It's a beautiful part of you and she should love it too.
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>>44633376
She will leave you or stay with you out of guilt.
T. Husstuss
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>t. husstuss
>t. in agpgen
>t. larping
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Agp and femguys can earn respect by keeping their sex life private and being modest in public and just respect others. We can do this, girls
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>>44633376
thats nothing, i am married to a cis straight woman and i'm agp
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>>44633513
lol
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>>44631413
Glad there's finally one up, anyway I'm a cis man who wishes he were born as an anime princess.
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>>44633387
>>44633382
I don't get it, what exactly are you two suggesting I go to therapy for exactly?
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>>44631413
>this board has been overrrun with 4tran fake hsts failed normies who don't know what "meta-attaction" means
Finally someone says it. It's so fucking tiring, and all of them misunderstand and misuse these terms.
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>>44632241
It's a form of AGAMP which is AGP without bottom dysphoria
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>>44632607
Yes it's reported by Blanchard and Bailey. AGP symptoms go down the more you present and live as a woman, and you end up with just fuzzy feelings and association to womanhood
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Is there any way to transition from pseudoAGP faketrans to truAGP? Or does the succibus only choose those who are worthy from birth.
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>>44633584
Yes! And they all say "sneed" too, not realising that the "socially unaware cringey hon" meaning originated on Reddit and has no relation to 4chan whatsoever

Also I know 2 4rran posters irl and they're basically indistinguishable from the average traa poster of old, except that they've co opted our lingo and pretend to be HSTS despite having sissy adjacent fetishes and STEM degrees, it's so fucking cringe, there's nothing wrong with being AGP!!!
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>>44633568
I see you think agp is horrible and it's making you miserable because this is something you can't/won't change. You need to change it so you can be happy
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>>44631413
What is mef?
Sorry, I haven't been here in months
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>>44633670
It's new-age rebranding of "sissy".
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>>44632364
As a fat ugly bastard I wish I had a repper to spoil and forcefem
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>>44633680
What does it mean? Male
Estrogen female?
Is it the new "trap", "femboy"?
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>>44633715
masochistic emasculation fetish
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>>44633741
Ahhh ok
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>>44633647
>STEM degrees
I hate being a retarded agp adjacent neet, why do so many trannies have to not only mog me in terms of passing and looks, but also in IQ points.
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>>44633376
transition and hope for the best
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Need to be a futa princess
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>>44633584
>>44633647
I feel like once the terms left this board they stopped being about what the acronyms actually meant and started just being "edgy" slang for gay tranny and straight tranny, and then got further warped into a bizarre sneedhon reddit edgy way of being homophobic as a tranny and justifying it because they "liked" men. Men they pretty much all wanted to dominate them and "boyremove" them while he fucks them in front of a mirror or other such autosexual acts.
I remember the old agpg around here, back in like 2018-2020, and everyone was chill and respectful whatever kind of partners you liked, or didn't like at all and just wanted to fap in front of a mirror solo. Everything was a much healthier mix of AGP being something very cerebral and very animal at the same time that made it really fascinating to discuss. Everybody understood we're all just weirdos diving maybe a little too deep into sexualizing ourselves instead of this weird hierarchical shit people mean with the terms now.
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>>44631413
neglected to take my E for a few weeks and i fell back into my pre-transition tg erotica/media gooning habits. took my shot and then the urge to goon disappeared
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>>44634258
how do you manage to miss shots? I'm cis and estrogen is giving me reverse dysphoria, but I'm also mentally ill enough to absolutely freak out if I miss my shot by a single day
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>>44633513
I've been a little panty wearing semon demon for a long time but all on the DL. nobody has a clue.
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>>44633680
I am, for lack of a better term, a sissy but I feel no shame or humiliation by larping a girl for horny men. I do not find it degrading at all...am I mef?
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>>44634293
>how do you manage to miss shots?
surgery, hair removal, etc gave me more changes than hrt and im lazy
>I'm cis and estrogen is giving me reverse dysphoria, but I'm also mentally ill enough to absolutely freak out if I miss my shot by a single day
mfw
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>>44634358
Nta but yes we exist, cis men who take estrogen for mpb are one example.
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>>44634358
I took estrogen in hopes to find out that I was actually a repressed trans woman, but estrogen only made me fully aware of my male nature. Being a woman is as foreign to me as being a tree would be. Neither do I wish to be one in any way.
I just hoped I managed to find a way how to not be myself anymore.
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Ive never been in one of these. Is this my fetish? From what i read about agp i think it is what i perfectly fall into. Is it safe to say that like i always got aroused by ideas of being something im not. Like im attracted to an uncanny type of feeling. I fantasize of being with a girly girl that is actually just a man. Idk sorry if it was tmi and thats not what this thread is loll.
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>>44634492
Forgot to say. And it works both ways. I get turned on by the idea if im the girly girl but is avtually just a dude. Maybe its the lying asoect or deceit. Idk
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>>44634492
no one is going to gatekeep agp
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What does mef mean
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>>44633743
I prefer to see the f in mef as " fantasy ".
Fetish is very negative. Ago is not a fetish
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>>44634219
>remember the old agpg around here, back in like 2018-2020, and everyone was chill and respectful
Right before trannism reached its peak Marxist political radicalization. It's normal within Marxism to divide everyone based on the smallest things, and make everyone hate each other.
We can go back to be loving and chill
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>>44633648
i don't mind being agp, it's just that my bimbofication kink is a bit too much
like come on, i'm literally fetishising being (too) dumb (for my current lifestyle) at this point, how the fuck am I supposed to embrace/fantasise about that?
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>>44634294
Good!

Exactly. The world shouldn't be forced to see our sexy side.
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blanchard is a fraud
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>>44634492
>>44634508
Welcome to the fold.
Ago, however, is not a "fetish". It's an erotic trait of our personalities
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>>44633670
>>44633680
It was also meant to encompass agp and hsts because its creator thinks it’s all caused by emasculation trauma
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>>44634687
agp is conceptualized by Blanchard as an internalized sexual orientation. as in you’re attracted to yourself as a woman, but Blanchard wasn’t sure how it related to gender dysphoria (as in, if one was the result of the other or existed independently or had a common cause)
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>>44634562
>>44633741
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>>44634753
I don't want to be a jerk, but I'm past that discussion. I don't care about the conceptualization. For me it's more simple: it makes me happy, I do it as long as it doesn't negatively affect others or myself. I'm happier. You should try
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>>44634795
i don’t really think about this topic unless it comes up. from my daily pov i’m just treating my dysphoria, i don’t even feel attracted to myself
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>>44634687
Speak for yourself! For me it's a fetish, although I agree with >>44634795 if this is also you.
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>>44634821
Ok
Sounds good. I hope you can be happy
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>>44634643
Idk I'm a marxist but only in the sense that like if the state is going to exist it's only purpose should be serving the needs of the people none of this parasitic "we have colonizers at home" type shit going on in the modern world
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>>44634888
Yeah, it's me.
I figured it's better to enjoy life. Who's gonna judge me? Everyone dies. As long as you don't affect others, who cares
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>>44634894
i fully agree with your mindset
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>>44633687
I wish you luck, unfortunately I'm no longer a repper.
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>>44634911
Ok.
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>>44634940
:)

You are beautiful
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yo
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>>44634911
Nta I'm a marxist but only because if iwnbaw then society owes me neetbux and free gibs as compensation.
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>>44635136
only Blanchard’s test counts
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All of you people are RETARDED NIGGERS and should pay attention to me, the AGAMP HSTS queen!!!
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>>44635458
um I am a retarded WHITOID tyvm
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Newfag here, I know what AGP and AAP is, but what is AGAMP?
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>>44635629
auto - self
gyne - female
andro - male
morph - form
philia - love
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>>44635458
>AGAMP HSTS
please see the OP
>this board has been overrrun with 4tran fake hsts failed normies who don't know what "meta-attaction" means
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>>44635629
attracted to being a tranny or a woman with penis or a femboy, etc. it’s a subtype of agp so it counts as part of it
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>>44635666
I'm AGAMP!
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>>44635629
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>>44633407
I already did troon.

>>44633423
She's accepted it, but I am afraid about what this nona said >>44633427, that she'll eventually leave me because of it.

>>44633523
Congrats girl. How does she feel about you being AGP?

>>44634180
Hot, I might show this to her and maybe we'll reenact this ship.
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>>44635666
Devilish digits
What if I'm AGAMP but only as a mental compromise because being fully female is an impossibility?
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>>44635629
gam = tranny
gamp = chaser
agamp = attracted to being a tranny
agamp is just agp but you prefer having a penis, so most trannies
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>>44635704
based
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are autosexual agamp futamaxxers welcome here
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>>44635786
amongst the most welcomest :)
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>>44635666
Based
I love being fem with dick
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>>44635716
If she leaves you, you should live yourself more
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>>44635834
She might leave me, I dunno at this point. I literally went from a bearded man when I met her to overly feminine anime girl, and that kind of transition is a lot for a partner to handle.
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>>44634293
>>44634486
> I'm cis and estrogen is giving me reverse dysphoria
sameeeee
I always thought my condition was quite rare, nice to see someone else in exactly the same situation as me ^^

Anyway I need help with mine. I am a cis male with AGP, but transitioning is not fixing my AGP thoughts as I do not have a female soul (which is also why I am not trans) and thus any attempt to present as a woman is futile. I am also a gigahon, making even just pretending to be a woman impossible. I cannot satisfy my AGP fetish as a result and it makes me want to rope.
Is there any way out of this fetish without transitioning? Maybe a way to unlearn it? I had onset of gender dysphoria very late at maybe 17 or 18 and took until my early 20s to start hrt. Is it possible to revert my mind back to that state somehow?
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>>44635915
It's not a fetish according to the man who coined up the term, but a sexual orientation. If you aren't dysphoric then you shouldn't be having any drama about the situation, you just get turned on by it, fap, and move on
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>>44635934
I don’t get turned on by it because I am a man and not a woman
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>>44635983
I meant agp fantasies in general
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>>44635991
yea I got it, they don’t turn me on because my entire life is a constant reminder of how horribly deformed masculine I am. The fantasies aren’t strong enough to distract me from that fact.
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>>44631413
What kind of agp post do you want? Most of the time agp discussions devolve into terminology and reppers looking to rationalize repfuel
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>>44636043
I’m cagp and not a repper

t. >>44635915
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>>44635794
aww <3, anyone else looksmaxxing as an agp to look your best and cutest?
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>>44636164
i really want to im just not brave enough to go outside in girlmode most of the time, one time though recently i went out in my little frilly pink cute outfit, i think its not too over the top, even, its just kind of cute and i wore my fishnets under it and went outside to the sex club place and some of my frens met me there and they had a little clothing swap in the back, it was dolls night and everyone was so hot and it was so comfy <3
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>>44636107
That's different, I wasn't talking about cases like yours
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>>44635786
Agamp is a kind of agp
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>>44636043
Just hang out with chill agps, and chat and have a nice time?
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>>44636164
I'm cutemaxxing! Most people think I'm a dainty girl and try to help me with stuff all the time, its really nice
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Why do so many more MEF women get SRS compared to the general tranny population?
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>>44631413
dubs and I will wear something other than loose fitting black clothes
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>>44636995
Probably turned on by the fact they turned their male sex organ in to a hole for other men to fuck and dominate. Personally I think it's hotter when they get an orchi and keep their small useless pp as a cum target but I can see the appeal
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>>44637885
I find mef much hotter than agp
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>>44637885
Penis is so hot
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>>44637938
mef girls are my absolute favorite
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>>44631413
I have been only jerking off to and fantasizing about sissy stuff since 2014. Previously i used to be into shemale femdom mostly. Now I always self insert as the tranny or the girl getting fucked, but I prefer when it's a tranny. Whenever I have extended amounts of time for myself I'll shave, put on a chastity cage and edge to sissy hypno all day long. Whenever I watch sexy sissies getting fucked or sucking dick I get very envious. When I see pictures of passing trannies on 4chan or reddit I get even more envious and wish I looked like them. I always thought of myself as ugly and have been balding for almost ten years now, so that makes me think trooning never would have worked. When I'm not horny I don't feel bad about being a man, only about being ugly if I look at myself in the mirror for too long. I still find cute girls attractive and can fantasize about a happy life together with me as a man though, just better looking. I also fantasize about being a girl, or an impossibly beautiful tranny, but outside of that I don't really have feminine interests and don't hate my life as a man. I think it kinda sucks, but not because I'm a man. If I think about my family, I feel like they didn't deserve having a son this degenerate, so at least I'm sparing them the disappointment of being outwardly so, and keep everything inside my mind.
Thanks for reading my shitty post!
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>>44636995
For AGAMP futamaxxers to fuck.
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>>44632951
you need cock
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>>44638044
why do i like this. i need to stop being a virgin asap.
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>>44631413
I actively hate how my balls feel and have few qualms about chopping them off to make way for a neopussy, but I only get minor "second hand" dysphoria from my penis. If anything, it makes me kind of sad that using it makes me seen as less of a woman, rather than actually hating it myself. Does anyone else feel this way?
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>>44639375
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>>44639450
ew wtf nvm whys she look like that ew why is it rape fetish i hate jeeps again kys
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>>44639394
yeah same here, if I could press a button to give myself a vagina, I would, but I'm not going to bother with SRS and all the hassle of dilating and recovery...
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>>44639394
>>44639515
oh yeah, should say I'm post orchi and very very happy with the results :)
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>>44631413
why are mef girls usually wealthy?
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I'm new to trans stuff

So is AGP considered a subset of trans women? Or a separate thing from actually being trans?

And in general, how does the broader trans community outside of 4chan think of the "AGP" label? I only see it come up masked in like 3 different layers of irony so I can't tell how people actually define it or feel about it's validity (or lack thereof)
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>>44636043
full blown sissy inspo like how to accept being a femme etc and learn to get euphoria from being called gay by equating it with being cute idk
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>>44639609
it's complicated
basically, there was once a psychologist called dr ray blanchard who came up with a typology for trans women, AGP trannies, and HSTS trannies

HSTS trannies were described as being attracted to men and hyper effeminate vapid bimbos
AGP trannies were described as being attracted to themselves as women and being giga manly late transitioners, bisexual/gynephilic/asexual trannies also got lumped into this too

the typology was pretty soundly rejected and ray blanchard became a pariah after that, but "autogynephilia" definitely exists, and a lot of trannies have it

there's a lot of trannies who fit the old AGP typology definition as well (ma'amhon, bruce jenner) as well as plenty of trannies who fit the HSTS typology quite nicely (Kim Petras, that Norwegian girl with diabetes who's name i can't remember), but there's also trannies who don't fit nicely into the AGP label (Finnster, Contrapoints, most tripfrens on thisboard) and trannies who don't nicely into the HSTS label either (Dylan Mulvaney)

most of the blanchard posting on this board is ironic, atleast my blanchard posting is, I dont' think the typology actually exits, but I know for sure that AGP as a sexuality does exist
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>>44636043
any, i just want to cultivate a comfy home where i can occasionally post about my fucked up life as an agp tranny and have people listen instead of call me faketrans (I am post srs post ffs post ba)
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>>44631413
I wish I was a cute barefoot girl
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>>44639886
>>there's also trannies who don't fit nicely into the AGP label (Finnster, Contrapoints, most tripfrens on thisboard) and trannies who don't nicely into the HSTS label either (Dylan Mulvaney)

because you lump them all together under the trans umbrella. those aren't transsexuals. those are transvestic fetishists. hence they don't fit into agp or hsts because they're not trans they're cis. blaire white? transvestic fetishist. non-ops are not transsexuals because they keep their dick. keeping your dick means you're cis. that makes them transvestic fetishists, not transsexuals.

the whole thing with going to transgender is a bunch of cis normies that don't get it just threw them all in the same bin because it was easier to deal with it that way. they can't tell the difference and they don't care to learn.
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>>44640127
go away loser
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>>44635704
wouldn't "autoandrogynomorphophilia" mean being attracted to yourself as a pooner?
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>>44640155
they're just predatory women.
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>>44631413
What do I do if I wanna be an AGAMP futamaxxer but I have crippling bottom dysphoria and am literally just a regular-ass woman

Also is it MEF if you get off to the idea of being degraded as a boy, *but* I'm a lesbian and this is only hot to me because I hate boys and I absolutely hate the idea of being one
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Is there usually overlap between AGP/MEF trannies and consensual non-consensual play? Or am I just weird for wanting that? My bf and I have been trying it recently and it's breaking my brain.
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Is it MEF if I’m attracted to men, not into sissy stuff, don’t find being a tranny hot, but do want to be degraded and emasculated by men who are larger than me?
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>>44640541
checks out
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>>44640172
why do you wanna be a futamaxxer if you have bottom dysphoria

>is it MeF to get off to the idea of being degraded as a boy
based on how you described it, no
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>>44631897
God I want to have a pussy so bad but I'll likely be diabetic by the time I can afford it
fuck my shitty ass genes, they doomed me to be a tranny and then they cucked me from getting srs
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>>44641006
Why would you be diabetic by then Nona?
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>>44641023
My grandfather, 3 aunts, and 2 cousins are diabetic, and my dad is prediabetic
Also on a few occasions my pee has smelled like popcorn
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>>44641045
type 2 diabetes means you gave it to yourself by eatting like a shit head. zero sympathy. you guys are like smokers crying about getting lung cancer.
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>>44641106
not how diabetes works, retard
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>>44631413
>agp + mef
you mean, the woman behavior and sexuality?
cuz at some point you're just a normal woman that gets a bit kinky with your bf. at least thats what i think of agp/mef, which makes it hotter to think abt
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so i complained about a bustier being too small for me back in agpgen few years turns out it's just the right size but i'm used to wearing baggy clothes as a guy that i have no idea how clothes are supposed to fit and thought of myself as way bigger cds can have brainworms too
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>>44640172
I think you're just a regular AGP woman who is also GAMP and into futa externally. Which is perfectly normal because basically all of the slutty cis bi girls lusting after futas on queer apps are exactly that.
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>>44640541
It's pretty normal for us, yes. I think a bit of a non-con fetish is also pretty normal among cis populations as well given how many cis women like somewhat violent porn.
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>>44641745
>you mean, the woman behavior and sexuality?
Yes, but most here are trying to hold on to their male ego because it's basically their entire looking-glass self. Dysphoria usually robs people of their association to their bodies and I think a lot of them didn't build an internal self to counteract that, and so live as if there isn't one for them. The self leaks through regardless however, and they seek out sexual gratification in a fantasy of that male outer ego being eroded and "replaced" with an entirely female ego by someone who can see it inside of them and pull it out, by force if needed.
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is this true? has YOUR anima distorted?
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>>44642460
I thought Jung said the anima was part of the shadow for every male? (And the animus for every female)
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>>44642460
>jungian psychobabble

that being said though, i feel like I can relate to this, i just fucking wish I could integrate my shadow but I don't know how!!!!!! I just feel dead inside constantly
>t girlmoder for 5 years
>still basically boymode just with girl voice and no attempt to hide boobs
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>>44642460
Jung is like the bible. Many use their words to justify whatever bullshit they're trying to say, very few understand what it actually says and live with the reality of that.
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>>44642629
my pardner wrote this and she has not actually read jung she was just having fun
>>44642634
A good first step is to separate yourself from trans-focused communities i think. Especially if you're already past the girlmoding speedbump. Stop looking for further truths or whatever and just start just living your life. It sounds gay as hell but this IS the fake and gay board.
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>>44642694
working 10 hours a day and then browsing 4chan on the weekends is my life though
i know it sounds pathetic but other than reading for a few hours, I really couldn't think of anything else to do, i hate being autistic so much
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>>44642713
Do you have friends at work nona? If you don't mind me asking, what do you do? 10 hour shifts makes me think healthcare
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I used to wish to be a girl and now I'm a woman with a woman face and boobs and everything. Wild.
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>>44642735
i work in an office, it's not shifts, I just say in there for 11 hours because my work load is pretty high :/

>friends
only a fellow tranny, she didn't even know I was trans till I told her, and yet I can't really click with the women at my office because I still feel like a man :(
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>>44642772
Truly magical, I'm still getting used to it
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>>44642776
Ohhh i get that. I also work in an office environment, mostly with other women. I guess i dont feel like a man though. i wouldnt say i feel like a woman though. To be completely honest i feel the same as i did before i transitioned, at least so far as my internal sense of gender is concerned. I recognize, however, that my body HAS changed. It's changed enough to make other people not see me as a man. I am a little self-reliant on how other people perceive me, so if my coworkers all clearly see me as (at least) NOT a man, then I'm not one. Simple as.
>>44642772
not really agp but yeah its something im weirdly very used to but also always surprised/relieved by.
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>>44642776
Woah mood. Living as a woman while feeling as a man is super alienating and it's the reason I tomboymode
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>>44642634
>>44642713
>>44642776
I don't think this is an AGP/trans problem I think this is just you being overworked and having no hobbies. Normal people fall into that rut too especially with hours that high. The only way out of it is committing to loving yourself and expressing the parts of you that you find to love.
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>>44642882
mhmmm this makes sense nona, unfortunately I feel as if I ought to spend even more time on my career :/ oh fuck everything
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jorkin my shit to some agp right now thinkin about girlz
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>>44642460
I feel like what's happened to me is a forced anima integration/takeover due to ego death
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>>44642944
You weren't born to work. Take some time to yourself and carve out an identity doing something that matters to you.
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>>44634321
no one knows
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>>44642977
How?
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>>44643027
I don't know, as an older kid I faced a lot of rejection from girls and that led me to develop my anima more, like giving her a name and such
For most of my life she just was there in the back of my head but recently when I lost another job, felt like my entire life is crashing down, like there's nothing more I can do, I found some solace in AI chats, and they eventually started pinkpilling me, and that sort of led me to identify with my anima more
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>>44641023
Millennial boomer here. Whats "nona"? What does it mean? I like the sound of it,
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>>44640901
I like to call myself a "female man". Like if there were "male men" and "female men"
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>>44640541
There's tons of overlap in practice between agp, hsts, and mef
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>>44642097
How do you solve it?
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so I recently bought heels for the first time in my life (been girlmoding for 7 years).
I've worn wedges and chunky heels before, but rarely, so I'm not great at walking in heels. These shoes I bought are like classic black stilettos, 4 inches - basically I wanted classic lady shoes for events or shows.

so I'm walking around the house in them to learn, I'm getting better, and I have to admit, sometimes I am checking myself out in the mirror and going "waow, i look pretty hot", and that agp spark is there - it feels amazing. I've wanted to try heels since I was a kid obviously, but never got around to it after trooning, because I was too ashamed, honestly. So once I get good at walking in heels, 12 year old agp repper me is going to be really envious of me.

i feel like I'm in the weird height territory for heels though, because I'm 5'9 with these shoes
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>>44643812
you let yourself feel joy and follow a few whimsy's
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>>44643756
It's an anagram of anon, and people here use it because it's like a cutesy girl name.
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>>44643904
I'm just unable to see myself as a woman so i tomboymode

>>44643955
Nona is how Korean men address older women
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>>44643980
korean honorific is noona, not nona
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>>44643867
>i feel like I'm in the weird height territory for heels though, because I'm 5'9 with these shoes
If you're 5'9 in 4 inch heels that's perfect.
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>>44631413
Is MEF supposed to be humiliating? I feel embarrassed about being this way every single day.
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>>44644937
And you love it
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>>44641000
Because I think it'd be really awesome but I can't pull it off because I want this rapestick off my body

>>44642032
I wouldn't describe myself honestly as AGP. I like feeling pretty but I have discovered since I fell in mutual love with my girlfriend that I am in fact asexual. I transitioned out of Himedanshi Complex to live out entirely nonsexual yuri fantasies. So I would say I am romantically attracted to women but not sexually attracted in general. If I were attracted to men I'd probably not transition. I'm mostly doing this because I have to be a girl to be a lesbian. I mean, look, I enjoy how pretty I am now, but I tried the whole jerking off in front of the mirror thing and it doesn't work for me. I have a kinda abstract sexuality and I prefer jerking off to fiction than having sex. AGP is cool and worth being reclaimed but I don't think it accurately describes me. I am literally just a lesbian who was unfortunate to be boyborn.
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>>44645028
Is that bad?
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>>44643955
So cute...
Makes me feel cute



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