will i forever sound like a creepy 30 year old man in a girl's body
>>44676508how long have you been voice training?
Just get surgery retard
>>44676573proper voice training is probably better than vfs
>>44676576Yeah but at some point if your voice is really fucking deep just get vfs
>>44676571I dont. every time i try i get reminded of how fucking stupid i sound
>>44676584ok well there's your issue, if you're not willing to even try voice training I don't think jumping to vfs will help. vfs is a bonus thing IMO, since cadence and prosody and stuff is part of voice training and cannot be altered with surgery
>>44676595i never said im not willing to try but it just feels impossible because whenever i lookup tutorials they all say like 90 different things at once and dont explain the methods and concepts well so it feels like im just going backward and im broke as hell so i cant afford lessons
>>44676610oh sorry. what exactly are you struggling with? are you able to raise your pitch an octave or two, at least?
>>44676614yeah i can definitely raise my voice but it still sounds like a masculine tone ykwim like when guys try to imitate girl accents, i also sing a bit but its in my masculine voice so that doesnt really help much, but it definitely has helped me have a bit more control over my voice
>>44676623yeah if you can raise you pitch already then you probably need to work on resonance next. a lot of people complain about that part because it involves trying to control your larynx and the shapes your mouth makes and that can be frustrating to figure out. are you able to control the position of your larynx and diaphragm at all?
>>44676635idk bro resonance seems like a concept straight outta quantum physics it makes no sense to mei can kinda control my larynx but it requires focus and i dont know what you mean about the position of my diaphragm since i dont think you can move that
>>44676508pony tulpas are cringe, kys
>>44676644resonance just refers to the way your voice behaves when the mouth and throat (the resonators) have different shapes. you can see the effect of resonance by opening your mouth wide and going "aaaah" while slowly closing your mouth. notice how the sound changes over time.you can most definitely move your diaphragm, it's just a big muscle. it's not as important as moving the larynx but it can be. since you can already move your larynx, you should just practice moving / holding your larynx in higher and higher positions. you don't even have to make sounds necessarily but it would be helpful to know what positions make what sounds. you really just need to have great larynx control in the beginning.
>>44676584if you can't embrace the cringe your are probably fake trans and should give it up.
>>44676667shut up retard
>>44676661thanks for the help, ill try to understand resonance more and follow ur advice
>>44676684glad to help! if you want to talk more we can, but I think you have a good starting point now. good luck getting over the feeling of embarrassment, I know it sucks when first starting out. but don't worry, when you start to hear improvement it gets WAY less embarrassing and you'll feel more confident. I believe in you!
>>44676677sorry I'm not hug boxing retards, lol
>>44676697you're just being mean for no reason. "just give up" is not real advice.
>>44676644Not that anon but are you able to place your hand over your throat or upper chest to feel the vibration when you speak? Try to adjust your throat muscles so the sound and vibration starts at a higher point in your throat if you can, until eventually you can get it to start in your head if possible. If you have trouble doing it while speaking it might be easier to practice while humming or gurgling, since its a steady noise and you can feel the vibrations change as you adjust your throat muscles.
>>44676697yeah bro you know more about my identity than i do my fault
>>44676694thanks
>>44676700ill try thatfrom what ive heard voice training is just trying a bunch of different exercises at once with a routine and theyll kinda just come together to form a passable voice sometimes
>>44676699they just need to get over themselves and put effort in, they are 30 and should know this, this post is a waste of space.
>>44676508Honestly just push through the cringe and then use what youve learned to try pass in videogames comms. >The most brutal of vocal trials
>>44676716not everyone knows how to do everything. before you get over yourself and put effort in, you have to learn what to do. that's part of the human experience.as for the post being a waste of space, that makes no sense. people make 1000 spam posts on this board every day. it's not like this thread is hurting you.
>>44676716im not even 30 im 19 + what makes you think i havent fucking tried before youre just a piece of shit who thinks everything revolves around your worldview
>>44676727poster is obvious pony fag and should be posting on /x
>>44676747i used one image of a mlp character that doesnt even have anything to do with the post pleace go outside and talk to a real human being for once in your life instead of being a basement dweller
>>44676747tf does that have to do with anything? the picture isn't very relevant. maybe she just liked it. and why bring up /x/??I don't know if you're just insecure, or self-hating, or lonely, or have anger issues. but you should try not to take out your problems on random innocent people. becoming a kinder person is one of the biggest responsibilities of a human being.
>>44676766>>44676768I'm not giving you my life story, I'm not self hating, I'm not insecure, and I don't like op for the vibe they give off, simple as. If I had to go through hell during early transition other people should too, and just so you all know it really is as easy as just put effort in, there's tons of online guides use your brain and stop being a waste of space.
>>44676805>If I had to go through hell during early transition other people should tooyeah just from this sentence i know youre a fucking loser
>>44676805you're an asshole. OP's vibes are totally normal. don't act like you're trying to be helpful when you came into the thread while there was already real advice being given - you clearly just want to try to hurt OP's feelings. if you deny that it'll be extremely obvious you're lying.>If I had to go through hell during early transition other people should tooextremely regressive mindset. I hope you improve as a person.
>>44676810>>44676821okay, get hug boxed lol
>>44676825giving someone help and advice =/= hugboxing. lay off.
>>44676825youre miserable as fuck just leave this thread
>>44676833>>44676840right, it's time to give my pet chaser their morning rewards.
Negative reinforcement and calling upon one's ability to do personal research, to build personal confidence, assertive in one's own ability to solve their problems.Calling upon the group, the "tribe" for help, being less personally capable but leaning on Human's social ability to gain knowledge and further community.
>>44676863why are you talking like youre writing a poem
>>44676863let's be real no one is building community on /tttt or any other online space, this is all destined to sink into the abyss of the internet, get over yourself, and put effort in.I'm being real, it's the only way, don't trust anyone in this community, it's crabs in a bucket all the way down.
>>44676876ur so deep and enlightened bro i wish i could be like you one day
>>44676884I don't care go put effort in, retard.
>>44676890yes master i will do just as you say youre so fucking big and smart how could one not swoon in your presence
>>44676899sure, sweetie
>>44676876Dont be foolish, the internet is the second biggest community in the world, every website an exit ramp off the digital highway, 4chan city isn't whay it used to be, but it's still here. It isnt a loving, nurturing community, no, and that leaves you corrrct that this is just one of the bigger buckets around. But even then, someone like you is still trying to help them even if in a harsh and standoffish way. It is annoying to see all these same simple questions asked over and over that amount to luck and effort, yes, but even then you both still tried in your own way that reflects your lives and perception of the community. The internet is just in its infancy.
>>44676508follow this guidehttps://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/
if youre somewhat musical you can try imitating specific female singers first. put on headphones, listen, walk around the room and try replicating the oomph of the voice, with a finger on the apple to see if its raised. you dont necessarily have to be singing yet, but you can grow a sense by feeling the air as it comes out. and also give yourself the right to emulate more expressive detail, and try it with many songs, i recommend bjork or underscores. dont aim for a singular 'female voice' yet until youve explored the capability well, and later extrapolate. play with it for fucks sake
Can you actually voicetrain as mtf without ending up with the nasally trans youtuber voice?
>>44679167no you have to unless you got money for lessons youre destined to end up like the rest
>>44679167duh, of course you can. you don't talk to trans women?
>>44676805>>44676737Are you actually straight? The "git gud you lazy scrubs" mindset is the straight mindset.It seems to me you're trying to get trannies to improve their skill issue problem but that's impossible for fags.I imagine the only "good" trannies would be actually straight guys playing "woman" with extreme perfection.Wouldn't know for sure ofcourse I'd never be a fag myself. It's only a guess due to the colleration between straightness and effort I see in other people as well as my own(being extremely pro and extremely straight and just occasionally showing up here to laugh at lgbt's usual stupidity).
>>44680383meant to type "correlation"
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>>44680399any more corrections you'd like to publish or is that genuinely the only issue you were able to recognize? kek
>>44680400>>44680408Not talking to you. You're clearly too dumb for this.
chuds are so unintentionally funny sometimes
i hate trannies
>>44676508No, you’ll forever sound like a creepy 30 year old man in a creepy 30 year old man’s body.
>>44681176i hate you
>>44676508i voice trained by volunteering as a receptionist in a hospital when i was in high school. My current voice is just a more relaxed "customer service" voice. Every time someone calls you ma'am or miss on the phone you know you're going the right direction. Resonance is hard tho, and i sound like a redditor with a mouth full of shit.>granted, my voice never dropped that low to begin with, so ymmv.
>>44680426You aren't able to judge whether that's true or not.
>>44681176then get off the board retard
>>44676508i meow
