I made this post a month ago:https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/44346416/Since then tranny thoughts didn't stop and after realizing how much I hate aging like a man (going bald, body hair (I am already pretty hairy so I gotta buy an ipl), becoming wider, losing curves, your face masculinizing, etc.) I accepted that I want to start hrt and look more feminine and cute.Accepting that I am trans feels like an ego death for old cis masculine me but I didn't start physically trooning out or anything yet except for having long hair which I grew out before realizing that I want to be a girl. It's pretty wild how I was a chud who spammed ywnbaw like few months ago.I just need to find a way to get diy hrt and somehow hide it from my parents and hide the estrogen effects from them. Another thing is that I wish to have a gf since I am attracted to women and I don't know how many would be fine with a hrt femboy/tranny "boy"friend but I guess it's easier to get a partner once I feel happier with my body than now when I am depressed and don't take care of myself.
Happy for you nona, be the woman you want to be.
>>44676527I will probably present as a guy forever but still being a feminine male on hrt is infinitely better for me than staying on testosterone and becoming bald and ending up looking like my dad. Looking like this while being a "guy" is my goals honestly.
>>44676551based desu
>>44676526I’m so happy for you. I think herahrt is in stock if you’re in the US. I ordered from there just recently and they sent out in less than a week. Check out /hrtgen/ for more optionsAnyways um yeah happy for you. Don’t worry about hiding the effects because it does nothing. Honestly you should lower your expectations way down. All it does guaranteed is prevent future masculinization, but that’s still reason enough to start.
>>44676605I am in Balkans :(Do you know any good diy hrt place to order estrogen from here?>Don’t worry about hiding the effects because it does nothing. Honestly you should lower your expectations way down. All it does guaranteed is prevent future masculinization, but that’s still reason enough to start.Thank you I just care about stopping masculinization the most and like losing mass. My face is thankfully pretty androgynous minus facial hair.
>>44676551>feminine male on hrtbased cis man on hrt we need more of you
>>44676676Here’s a list.valerie dot vg/meds/groups/estradiol-injectionsThere are some euro brewers there. Like I said you should check out /hrtgen/ for more resources.
LolI've said this a million times and especially on /pol/ Guys who go into trap threads or trans spaces to be mean to trannys are repressors themselves I mean look at this poll I took from /pol/Also I would go into trap threads and spam gore and call them abominations and told them they were all going to hell. Then I came here and was an evil asshole for years, fast forward to now I'm post-op and fully stealth living as a real woman. I said when I started hrt I'd never go outside dressed as a girl and yet I literally cannot pass as a male ever again if I tried lol
>>44676714can you give some advice to a male on estrogen on how to quit being mean to trannies online? i have not grown out of being a transphobicish misogynist and very regularly bully the trans people here. i feel like I should stop but I don’t really see any reason to but I think I want to stop but I’m not sure
>>44676742Because it's a shitty peice of shit thing to do and only makes you look jealous which I'm 100% sure that is whats driving your hate. Jealousy over us passing dolls causes people like you to lash out at lesser passing people. It's a viscous cycle and all it does is hurt everyone involved
>>44676785nta but I feel like making fun of people like this isn't too unreasonable.
>>44676807Honestly the more people ignore those creeps the better life will be for everyone. Real transwomen are beautiful.
>>44676676hey, im slovenian, i got my diyhrt from germany and it arrived fine. depends if youre from the EU or non-eu.
>>44676829I wish nona, I wish, but real trannies have to be bunched up with these AGPfags by the cissies and it makes everything worse for everyone.
>>44676708Thanks but I HATE needles, so I will probably go for sublingual pills or gel.>>44676830I am non-Eu :(>>44676807Repfuel
>>44677017how is that repfuel you're not even remotely similar
>>44677062The fact that being trans gets you associated with that person.
>>44677308most people don't know that person exists though
Congrats but what do you care about what faggots online think.Just take your meds and go back to doing irl shit
>>44676829>Real transwomen are beautiful.Based gatekeeper. I agree if ur ugly you're a creepy AGP rapist and ur only a female if you pass
>>44677358grimm's fairy tales called they want their morals back
This shit's retarded
>>44677354why dont you take meds anon?
>>44677354>>44677428https://vocaroo.com/1iC8Rbe7sXEg
>>44676605yeah.....estrogen really isn't magic... it just gave me soft pale skin, made me not oily, and halted my hairloss.
>>44677930I need soft smooth pale skin so bad.
>>44676551Same
>>44678359So you are also not on hrt yet?
>>44679315No, the side effect scare me
>>44676807this is a fucking ancient picture that has been circulating for years. you don't know what that person looks like today or what they're doing.relative timestamps are evil because they prevent people looking at screenshots from realizing they're arguing about a world that doesn't exist anymore.
>>44676526Good for you. Proud of you for taking matters into your own hands. Now apologize for ywnbaw spamming.
Have some fun with it, OP. Tell your parents you’re leaving MAGA because of a movie you saw in discord.When they press you say it’s I saw the tv glow. Could be funny
>>44679457what side effect
>>44676714I honestly never understood this pipeline. I was (and largely still am) a robot yet never understood why hate on trannies. Then I found out transmaxxing is possible, lol.>post-opWhen did you get the surgery? And what method?>>44676742>misogynistNTA but if anything now I'm even more of a "misogynist" now that I know from lived experience that the blackpill is largely true.The second you end up passing and get treated like a woman, there's no way to unsee just how misandrist this world truly is.
>>44681442Mainly ball shrinking/infertility and penis atrophyBehavioral changes and brainfog sound pretty scary tooAnd if I got significant breast growth that could be difficult to explain as well
>>44681471>ball shrinking>penis atrophy>Behavioral changesBenefits, actually.>brainfogGoes away in under one year.>Significant breast growthVery rare.
>>44681471penile atrophy can be avoided altogether by getting it hard for 4ish minutes about once a week
>>44681456>incel to trannymaxxerTell us your story oh wise sage. Was the journey worthy it?
>>44682096I did tell the story several times here. Just look for my namefag in the archives.Yes, it was worth it. I got married to a man this year.It was especially worth it when I compare to the outcomes of my former incel friends with whom I reconnected last year (they shunned me 9 years ago when I trooned). Three of them are still virgin, all 4 are alcoholics and all 4 are way poorer than me.There was some luck involved too. Being short definitely helped. Being bifag absolutely helped. But it was also a lot of work and discipline. Performing femininity while knowing what I know is certainly not for everyone.
>>44676526Did you think you'd be exempt from the chud->tranny pipeline? There was a reason you were so obsessed with trannies. The majority of lateshit trannies had a chud phase.
>>44682204reminds me of how one time I told my psychiatrist I wanted estrogen and he said I was too old for it to have an effect. Later on when I brought it up again he said I'm not dysphoric and said I just hated myself. To be honest I probably am a faggot
>>44682342I got rejected for GD assessment, lol.Got them to reconsider when I was almost 3 years on DiY and had FFS appointment and threatened to sue.I am very thankful I never bought into the "it's over"/"it's too late" retardation. I started at 23. Tbdesu it wouldn't have made much of a difference even if I had started at 25 or 20. Most of the time it's not too late.>To be honest I probably am a faggotI was invisible romantically to both men and women. I suddenly became visible to both about 18 months into HRT (+laser and learning how to dress).
>>44682423Can't do DIY since I don't have access to it, honestly I'd probably be able to get an assessment but they'd probably say I don't have it since I fluctuate on this topic all the time (it comes and goes), I've done shit like try to cut my testes off before but my psych (who wasn't there when that happened but has the notes on file) think stuff like that wasn't a GD thing. He's probably right, being invisible sucks but at some point it seems preferable to potentially being mocked and threatened (even if desu I am probably mentally ill enough to cause severe damage to them while fighting back), and being a man isn't nice but I don't want to end up a transbian either. Then again maybe I'll john50 but it wouldn't be the first time I've suddenly snapped either
>>44682501>I tried to cut my testes off but my psych said it wasn't a GD thing, he's probably rightslave mindset
>>44676526>wake up too early>put cage on>go back to sleep with cage on>have one of those dreams where its like you're just barely awake having a train of thought>said train of thought is about being a caged sissy and how im gonna estrogenize myself>it starts getting me hot and bothered and i feel my dick straining in its cage, but its like, a warm pleasant feeling>realize whats going on and embrace the arousal as it builds towards a handsfree climax, panting and whimpering>nghoh fuuuuucckkkkk.wav>climax wakes me up>not even fully spent>prone masturbate onto a towel to finish myself off (master said no jerking off with my hands)
>>44683351hawt
>>44676551>I will probably present as a guy foreverhave fun with thati thought i would do the same but eventually it just became too painful to keep dropping my voice down and wearing le guy clothes whenever i left the househope hrt does you well nona
>>44676526What is an IPL?>>44676605>>44677930Wouldn't it making your skin less oily actually make you visibly age faster, not slower?>All it does guaranteed is prevent future masculinizationWhat if I'm already in my early 30s? Is there no point then? My face/head hair until recently still looked as it did back when I was a teen, but over the past few months I have noticed (or maybe imagined) that i'm maybe looking older some days in ways I can't quite put my finger on, and that I'm starting to get receding hair/a widows peak if I pull my front hair back>>44681471>>44681519>>44681840There's a lot of info about avoiding penis atrophy and erectile issues here >>44610209
>>44682423>>44682342I am interested in both of your input on >>44684044
>>44684055Try more, worry less BEFORE even trying.That's the lesson for basically everyone in the "questioning" stage.I went straight into DiY before trying the legal route. After I got rejected, I continued DiY and when I scheduled FFS I tried again the legal route and threatened to sue.This may not apply to you. Check your medical privacy laws in your country. If you're in Europe, you have an absolute legal right not to disclose to anyone (including other medical personnel).
>>44684088wait did you do srs?
>>44685541I haven't, yet. But will, quite soon.
>>44676526>I was a chud who spammed ywnbaw like few months ago.The fate of all /pol/tards and sharycucks
>>44677308so it acts as a filter.
>>44685898for what, people who don't want to be associated with people like that? thus making a greater percentage of trannies people like that? great
>>44676526Fuck you and dieI hope you die die die die die
