I couldn't handle repping anymore and just took my first dose. I'm hoping it will help with my anxiety and I won't feel like I'm going crazy anymore.
A 1-3 months usually. It kind of goes in Waves. Strap in for the long ride. The first year and change can be hard.
>>44680405Never. Emotional changes from estrogen itself aren’t real. The emotional changes come fromA: actually living as a woman and the enjoyment from being able to live your life.and B: seeing the effects that estrogen has on your body in changing your appearance to that of a woman’sB isn’t guaranteed because for some people estrogen doesn’t do much, and A is a change in lifestyle. If you get unlucky and don’t get the changes you want, and if you continue to live your life as a male, you will continue to be miserable>
>>44680405I got bad news for you. The mental effects aren't that big and you're getting proably the most you can expect.
>>44680595>emotional changes from estrogen aren't realthat is just blatantly untrue anon, I can't say my lifestyle changed much but my anxiety is way lower than before and I can feel emotions way more deeply than before when I was dissociating and feeling dull all the timeI don't even live as a woman, just as enby
>>44680720You feel differently because of some other reason and you’re just attributing it to estrogen.
>>44680720Yeah no shit retard, that's you unclenching because you finally started the E you wanted.
>>44680405depends on your dose and how quickly you get good levels
>>44680915why am I the retard lol I'm just pointing out the other anon is an idiot for claiming it doesn't change your mental state
>>446804053-4 weeksprepare for a lot of crying, you'll be processing a lot of buried emotions
>>44680405about 8 months until you start having foid brain
>>44681025The point is that estrogen itself didn’t magically make you happy. You had a goal in mind for a long time and finally reaching that goal lifted a weight off your shoulders and allowed you to focus on other things.>>44681053False. I know from experience.
>>446810452 years, no crying or mental effects
if emotional changes from estrogen aren't real, how come women get emotional changes when their hormone levels change during her period?obviously hormones do change emotions, and people only seem to believe they don't when it comes to trans people.
>>44681204Women are emotional and retarded because they are raised to be that way. The belief that it is due to inherent differences in biology is just people misattributing this socially conditioned trait due to bioessentialism and naturalism being prevailing ideas amongst normies
>>44681270this is the first result for "estrogen side effects men"the belief that hormones just don't cause biological differences is nonsense people only claim when discussing trans people
>>44681282>hone
>>44681286literally any source will tell you that high estrogen causes mood changes in menliterally any source will tell you that women's natural hormone cycle has emotional effectsbut if you're trans? nope, estrogen does nothing. It certainly doesn't affect your brain at all. Estrogen doesn't affect trans women's mood, emotions, sexuality, or anything at all, it only does stuff like that in cis people, you fucking bioessentialist!next you'll tell me it's valid not to take estrogen at all
>>44681282The mood swings are from seeing the PHYSICAL CHANGES on their BODY. They see themselves growing breasts and having a limp dick and THAT is what upsets them. Estrogen itself does not have an impact on mood. What it does to your BODY is what people are reacting to emotionally.
>>44681158>FalseTrue, I know from experince.
>>44681326estrogen is a fucking neurochemical you retard
>>44681342See >>44681326If estrogen has given you the physical effects on your body that you want (breast growth, feminized fat distribution, cessation of hair loss, etc.), then you will be happy. Your happiness is a reaction to your body changing, to you getting the changes you want. It does cause emotional changes just from being in your body. >>44681352You will never understand. I am laying this out as simply as I can for you.
>>44681404I entirely understand what you are claiming, you're just wronghormones do affect your mood and emotions directly.
>>44680405my hyper stoic male brain has successfully resisted any mental changes for the past 3 years
>>44681416I mean women can also be curl heartless bitches too, the spectrum of women hood is vast.
>>44681404I distinctly remember a time when everything clicked in my brain, and it had nothing to do with how I looked.
>>44681431heartlessness is not stoicism. Heartless women are still emotional bitches. Afabs cannot be stoic
>>44681446you're just wrong lol, stoicism is a made up concept that anyone can adopt if they want to, most women just don't do it due to life path.
>>44681438>>44681414The only way this argument can lead is to each side giving their personal experience to prove their point.The fsct is, if things are really as you claim and estrogen just inherently causes emotional changes, why are there so many trans people who haven’t felt any of that? >>44681416 >>44681166Why are there so many trans people who are fucking miserable and who estrogen hasn’t improved their mental state at all?MY explanation accounts for them. It explains why they feel the way they do and also manages to explain why you feel the way you do. Yours doesn’t explain their experiences. It discounts them.
>>44681498>Why are there so many trans people who are fucking miserable and who estrogen hasn’t improved their mental state at all?estrogen makes you more emotional, it doesn't improve your mental stateit can for some people, some people just directly feel less dysphoric on estrogen. But I don't think that's a super common experience. people who don't notice it, just don't notice it. Emotional changes like any changes from estrogen can be subtle and might happen slowly so the individual doesn't notice the change.
>>44680720>>44680595>>44680915>>44681045>>44681352>>44681404>>44681520What if I DON'T want emotional changes? Anyway to do HRT while still avoiding that? I like being an autistic robot obsessed with rationality and not being driven by my emotions>>44681316Anon I think they were just making a "hon" joke
>>44684343too bad it's a package deal, you'll likely still be an overly rational autist though
>>44684377I mean I've seen people bring up potential ways to avoid or minimize breast growth, and I've seen a lot of talk about what seems like reputable methods to avoid erectile issues, so it didn't seem unreasonable to me to assume that some people worked out potential ways to avoid the mental/emotional effects too
