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i wish right wingers liked trannies or viewed us as like turbo feminine gay bottoms that generally should be treated like women. i do not want to be an ethnic minority in my own country. i cant have kids myself but i hate the way leftists push to make public spaces (yes this includes restaurants, airplanes, busses, and beaches) unfriendly to children and families. i am tired of being harassed by homeless drug addicts in the street and police doing nothing. i have been abroad and seen the societal rot in the EU from high taxes and a large welfare system. idk i really support most right wing causes but so many people have made being trans basically synonymous with being both far-left and an ugly sexual degenerate that im like chained to the cuck party
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You need to step up your game, fed
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>>44685389
>you have wrongthink therefore fed
faggot
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>>44685381
anyone who fully aligns themself with a political ideology is a low IQ moron who should honestly just off themselves. that goes for even the ones who are overly "woke" to the point of retardation. I think people like op are a plague on this planet.
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>i'm le tranny faggot but right wing thread #89203
daring today, aren't we?
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>>44685381
Tbf more right wing politicians tend to be the weird gross sex freaks, and tend to abuse their citizens while they lie about giving us freedom but you do you boo
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>>44685381
transphobia is already mainstream enough where it's cringe, far-right zoomers are disgusted by cis women to such a degree that they'll probably soften (or harden, rather) to trans girls.
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>>44685400
>global fascism
what does this even mean to you
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>>44685381
You're not right wing. The right wing solutions to all of these problems are just the only ones your retard brain can calculate. you long for the sense of brotherhood you perceive on the outside looking in so you adopt their lingo too in hopes to further differentiate yourself and impress that big other which wishes to gas you.
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>>44685400
>fully aligns themself with a political ideology
i dont, i listed a few specific concerns and a disagreement. its ok to realize that your views roughly align with a common concept though. should i write a 1000 page manifesto that i attach to every post?
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>>44685424
>you long for the sense of brotherhood
do you live in a major city, and are you a net tax contributor? if not, i don't care what you think and if you arent a net tax contributor you honestly shouldnt be allowed to vote
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>>44685430
Cared enough to reply bitch ass nigga now go pick up a book
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>>44685439
>pick up a book
recommendations? i dont read 20th century political manifestos because they aren't applicable in a modern context. i like fiction books in my spare time because i work with my brain and like to relax after work
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>>44685411
it means retardation.

>>44685425
why do morons like you always wanna have some pointless discussion. get over yourself nigger. You and every other fucking failure that talks about politics constantly (left or right) are all performative fucking larpers. You normie faggots are all NPCs who read a political book written by a dumbass, and think you suddenly know everything about the world.
People like you are slaves, stop acting like you're not. You make me physically ill.
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>>44685454
>children are cute and a societal good, people who dislike them are weird
>aggressive homeless people on drugs attacking people and exposing themselves in the streets should be arrested
>i dont like paying taxes

really basic stuff that i formed from my own experiences from going outside
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>>44685467
>children are important
>police is important
>I don't want provide any means to facilitate this
Muppet
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right wing trannies when they realize they also have to get into the gas chamber
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>>44685501
im ok paying for those, im not ok with infinite benefits for the unemployed or refugees like the EU does. i also dont support long-term section 8 residents.
>>44685502
not everything is about gas chambers yk. there is a middle ground between gassing jews and communism its not one or the other
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>>44685467
those aren't even right leaning takes you fucking moron.
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>>44685514
Only an EU tranny could be this mindraped by neoliberalism
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>>44685527
im american, why do you support all of these things?
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>>44685514
So you are okay with paying taxes then?
>im not ok with blahblah
So you don't want homeless drug addicts roaming the streets but you want to make sure people end up homeless? Also what about unemployed people with children?
You need to stop thinking reactionary and look at the big picture
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>>44685381
I supported the political right when the right was fighting the power
now they're entirely subsumed into zog so I hope the commies lynch them and destroy society
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>>44685533
>I supported the political right when the right was fighting the power
So never?
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>>44685540
Political right just means american-ly conservative to them
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>>44685532
make narcan a prescription drug so that these people (who do not want to get clean or get a job or stop being homeless) will just fucking die.

unemployed is not homeless. very few people are homeless in the way you know i mean (wandering the streets with half their clothes missing and threatening people). if people cannot feed their children, the state will take them. imo, the state shouldn't have foster care where kids get molested and should have boarding schools instead but whatever

have you worked with the chronically homeless? not people who lived in their car or crashed on friends' and families couches for a few weeks or months. there is a reason nobody wants these men in their homes and its usually that they are mentally unstable or have a history of sexual assault.
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>>44685540
at a higher level maybe you're correct but ykwim
>>44685547
actually it meant teenagers on ifunny and X the everything app
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>>44685381
Nona, what would be your solution to the homeless epidemic? Like genuinely? Also I don’t know what state you’re in, but I don’t think there’s a lack of family unfriendly places to go, and if there is, it’s probably due to how theirs no real public spaces since every activity is monetised and capitalised…
>>44685502
God’s wokest moid when he gets a chance to root for death camps
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>>44685557
>these people (who do not want to get clean or get a job or stop being homeless)
You are again falling for propaganda here. Also this would increase pressure on public systems like police and ambulances and will be way more expensive than providing them care. That's been proven time and time again
>unemployed is not homeless
No, but you say people shouldn't be getting benefits. Unemployed without benefits leads to homelessness
>if people cannot feed their children, the state will take them
>imo, the state shouldn't have foster care where kids get molested
So you're both for the concept of it and against the reality of it. This is why you're a muppet
>have you worked with the chronically homeless?
No but if you're implying you need direct experience to have an opinion on things then you need to shut the fuck up
Again, it's verifiably more beneficial to everyone to provide care to these people rather than to leave them to their own devices
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>>44685580
>>44685575
>Nona, what would be your solution to the homeless epidemic?

enforce laws that are already on the books against being a public nuisance and a threat to women, send these people to jail or bring back the historical option of enlisting

i grew up in texas, the cartel is genuinely a terrorist organization and we should be using advanced technology to identify them and arrest/kill them

sink narcosubs using the very expensive navy we pay for

limit the length of time you can stay in section 8 housing to 2 years so it becomes available for truly transient need

expand the army corps of engineers and use ad spend to encourage the homeless into what is functionally an enlisted work program building roads, digging ditches, and building infrastructure while being housed by the state and having pro-social programming pushed into your brain, all without the PTSD wars in the sandbox come with

enforce antitrust laws against insurance and healthcare providers, then end medicare, medicaid, and social security. use the freed revenue to pay down the debt.
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>>44685502
>>44685454
chuds love trannies. dont you think youre victimizing yourself
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>>44685615
>enforce laws that are already on the books against being a public nuisance and a threat to women
So fining homeless people and only perpetuating their situation further. That seems to be working so well now
>the cartel is genuinely a terrorist organization
Supported and funded by the US state, an inherent right wing organisation, in part to create sentiments like yours
>sink narcosubs using the very expensive navy we pay for
They have been doing this recently and drugs haven't stopped entering the country but you did lose millions on missiles and military action that could've been spent on drug programs that tackle the root of the problem. I think most drugs are smuggled in the US through other means anyway
>limit the length of time you can stay in section 8 housing to 2 years so it becomes available for truly transient need
After which you provide these people with jobs and housing? Or just kick them out on the street and ruin their chances of crawling their way back up? Section 8 housing is already a shitshow btw
>expand the army corps of engineers and use ad spend to encourage the homeless into what is functionally an enlisted work program
A good number of homeless people already work and those that don't you probably wouldn't want in the military
>enforce antitrust laws against insurance and healthcare providers, then end medicare, medicaid, and social security. use the freed revenue to pay down the debt.
So you want a left wing government?
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>>44685580
>way more expensive than providing them care
just take them to jail? i know multiple EMTs i promise you sending ambulances out for the same 5 people over and over again is actually way more expensive than putting them in jail. like being violent and on illegal drugs is a crime.
>Unemployed without benefits leads to homelessness
does it? lots of homeless are on benefits and they find a way to spend it on drugs (EBT fraud, disability, etc.) lots of people who havent blown up every social connection by being a sex offender dont go on benefits and crash at a friend or family member's place. have you considered that if you find yourself homeless and completely without any social support system there may be a reason? also if you limit the length of section 8 housing, then those people actually have greater access to housing with less wait time and dont end up on the street taking their first dose.
>So you're both for the concept of it and against the reality of it.
i know its current year but nuanced takes exist. on one hand i can say that children shouldnt be left to parents who will starve them, beat them, or who are otherwise unable to properly care for them. on the other, i can say that the current foster care system is essentially set up to pay people to molest kids. its tragic what we did to the natives with those boarding schools, but imagine we set up similar infrastructure instead of foster care
>No but if you're implying you need direct experience
you just dont get it. idk have you quit smoking or something or ever had a chemical in your head that forcibly changes your thought process or seen it in others? these people aren't magical souls piloting flesh robots, they are literally brain damaged and dangerous
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>>44685633
what an absolute moronic statement to make lol. If chuds "loved" trannies, then being trans wouldn't be such a controversial thing. Cool bait faggot.
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>>44685615
I think maybe reducing military spending would be a better way to reduce the debt… idk I just disagree with having American influence outside of America tho, and like I kinda agree with like, giving the homeless more working opportunities would be helpful to a lot of them, but I don’t think our current government would even consider that(especially with how corrupt it is) plus right wing governments usually prioritise privatisation
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>>44685648
>fining
if someone sleeps on the street and isn't committing indecent exposure, threatening someone, violating drug laws, or attacking someone, they can stay. the rest are crimes for a reason, and they should be arrested and presented with the option to join the army or go to jail
>Supported and funded by the US state
im sure there's some obscure CIA operation you're referencing, and that should stop, but that doesn't change the point that they cross the border back and forth illegally to sell drugs and decapitate people.
>They have been doing this recently
good
>drugs haven't stopped entering the country
try harder
>you did lose millions on missiles
i propose the humble $800 ukranian suicide drone
>After which you provide these people with jobs and housing?
no. they have 2 years rent free to get a fucking job or they are out. if they commit crimes while out, they will be put in jail, the army, or a work program. having support (2 years rent free is very generous mind you) is good, supporting leeches that clog up that support for the well-meaning is not.
>A good number of homeless people already work
not everybody needs to live in a high cost of living area. it is not hard to not be homeless, you have to seriously fuck up and constantly fuck up. just get a bus (cheap as shit) somewhere cheaper
>So you want a left wing government?
no.
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>>44685663
>just take them to jail?
Do you think that is free? They would still require medical care. Being on drugs is not a crime btw. Also this already happens and clearly doesn't work
>does it?
Generally when you can't pay for a home you end up homeless, yes
> lots of homeless are on benefits and they find a way to spend it on drugs
Yes because this system doesn't work and you need to support them
>crash at a friend or family member's place
Moronic solution
>have you considered that if you find yourself homeless and completely without any social support system there may be a reason?
Yes, but what is that reason? In most cases it's untreated mental illness. So it would seem that it would be beneficial to provide support to people so they don't end up in these situations
>also if you limit the length of section 8 housing, then those people actually have greater access to housing with less wait time and dont end up on the street taking their first dose.
That is not how it works. It would also just mean that you postpone people ending up on the streets and "taking their first dose". You do not seem to think of any of the long term affects of what you propose
>i know its current year but nuanced takes exist
You say that you want one thing that already exists, but then you also say that it's bad and it should be a different thing instead. That's not nuance. Also this would never happen under a right wing government.
>you just dont get it
I mean I have looked at all the studies done and all the successful programs ran compared to the current situation that doesn't work so I feel like it's not difficult to make conclusions based on evidence
>these people aren't magical souls piloting flesh robots, they are literally brain damaged and dangerous
More propaganda and that doesn't negate that fact that helping these people is provably better than leaving them to their own devices, especially if they are mentally unfit and dangerous like you claim
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>>44685678
>reducing military spending would be a better way to reduce the debt
the usa spends way more on social security, medicare, and medicaid than the armed forces, look it up.
>disagree with having American influence outside of America tho
kinda same, like we dont need to be invading iran, but the us combined forces do a lot of work to keep shipping channels (except apparantly the important one) open
>giving the homeless more working opportunities
there are shitloads of working opportunities for the homeless, they just have conditions like "don't sexually harass the women" and "don't be violent" and "don't do drugs". seriously, look any of this up

>>44685714
>fascism is when productive policy and dont give infinite money to drug addicts and enforce the law
you know kicking out abusers of the system makes the system more available for people who use it with good intentions right? like if you could only stay in section 8 for 2 years, it would be way more available to people who need it now. basic supply and demand
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>>44685713
>the rest are crimes for a reason, and they should be arrested
Which already happens and clearly doesn't solve the issue else it would've already been solved
>some obscure CIA operation you're referencing
No this is well known fact
>that doesn't change the point
It does, because this is problem created by the people that sell you these lies so that you keep giving them more power. You are falling for it
>good
So you think wasteful spending is good?
>try harder
It's been like, 70 years of the war on drugs now? How much progress has been made?
>i propose the humble $800 ukranian suicide drone
Or you can just spend the money on actually fixing the issues instead of bandaid fixes. Think long term
>no. they have 2 years rent free to get a fucking job or they are out.
So you want more homeless people, got it
>not everybody needs to live in a high cost of living area
Most people don't so I don't see why you're trying to argue this
>it is not hard to not be homeless, you have to seriously fuck up and constantly fuck up
I think it's roughly half of all Americans that are a single missed paycheque away from becoming homeless. You should research these topics instead of listening to podcasts and twitter posts about what you should get angry about this week
>no.
You just described one so again, you're a muppet
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>>44685724
>Being on drugs is not a crime btw
is is literally a crime. like it is against the law to possess these substances or be under their influence. it is illegal
>Generally when you can't pay for a home you end up homeless, yes
then go to section 8 for up to 2 years (super fast to get in now) and get a job?
>Yes because this system doesn't work and you need to support them
it doesnt work because it assumes the people benefiting want to be productive members of society, when they do not.
>Moronic solution
if you lost your job tomorrow, you could probably make rent for the month, then have three months after that before being forced out. that's four months to either get a job and/or find temporary accomodations in your social net. again, if we reduce pressure on section 8 you might even be able to get that in time. if you don't have a social net to fall back on temporarily, that is a personal failing
>In most cases it's untreated mental illness
just because someone is mentally ill does not mean they can be allowed to commit crimes. they must be taken into custody, either in jail or in a work program where they will receive treatment, and they will take their pills.
>this would never happen under a right wing government
idk girl the usa has had state sponsored boarding schools up until pretty recently. it was for the cultural suppression of the natives but still
>I mean I have looked at all the studies done
i've read a good amount of these too, i encourage you to go outside and see for yourself. you are wearing a "dont look up" hat rn.
>helping these people is provably better than leaving them to their own devices
if someone cannot be held responsible for their criminal actions they must have the capacity to inflict harm taken from them. we can help them in custody.
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>>44685381
TSMT. Do not care about the obvious browns/third worldists in the replies
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>>44685752
>Which already happens
please go outside in any major city in the us. i dont care how many academic studies say anything. please go outside. every single day i walk to work in a city, i am verbally harassed by homeless people. i have been followed home. i have had them touch me. im worried one day that one of them will hurt me.
>No this is well known fact
im aware about the cia and crack cocaine 50 years ago. i'm sure there are government operations where they give some people some drugs. this isnt a gotcha, kill them.
>So you think wasteful spending is good?
no, dont use the big expensive missiles on the shitty submarines, 10 seconds on a machine gun would probably work
>It's been like, 70 years of the war on drugs now?
i seriously think that the prevalence of mass surveillance and software like palantir shift the economics of this. like in the 70s sure its basically impossible, but youre seriously telling me we couldn't have cheap surveillance drones around the entire ocean and southern border of the united states?
>Or you can just spend the money on actually fixing the issues instead of bandaid fixes.
i want to make shipping and customer acquisition for narcotics in the united states economically infeasible in the united states. for what it's worth we should be firebombing centers of production for these drugs at the source and use artificial intelligence on the HD spy satellites we have to find them. that's a long term fix, you want to literally bandaid it by handing out narcan
>So you want more homeless people, got it
illiterate faggot
>Most people don't so I don't see why you're trying to argue this
idk i never see homeless people in low or medium cost of living areas
>I think it's roughly half of all Americans that are a single missed paycheque away from becoming homeless
what % of americans have been homeless for over 6 months? i dont care how many are super duper close. also again im mad about the in person harassment i get
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>>44685769
ty, i do not know why so many other american trannies simp after EU faggotry or even just full on communism. trannies in the EU will talk all day about how the wait for HRT or a doctor is like 6 months to 5 years and ameritroons will just not make the connection that its like that for the rest of the healthcare system too. or that things actually cost money.
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>>44685381
Ive been a leftist for a long time but recently another leftist was really mean to me so i kinda dont wanna be a leftist anymore. I dont know what to do.
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>>44685901
stop doing performative politics, especially with leftists who like purity testing people. either quietly vote in elections or get involved in your local politics (protesting trump in a blue city doesn't count).
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>>44685917
Voting is pointless and getting involved in local politics is also pointless. Nothing is ever gonna change in america. All politics are performative atp.
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>>44685951
lots of things have changed in america and recently. in the last 25 years, we've had multiple wars, the supreme court went from liberal to conservative, trump (twice), covid, 2008 economic crash, 911 obviously, mass surveillance, guns rights went up a lot. look what was prioritized under bush vs obama vs trump 1 vs biden vs trump 2. also seriously look into what your mayor or city councilors are up to, in a lot of places very few people vote for those and you really can make an impact and change that directly affects you.



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