>>44688627
Yes. Very good. There is no reason a cis man shouldn't be on estrogen.

>>44688627
the physical effects feel good but the anxiety I get kinda cancels out any benefit

>>44688645
How do they feel good

>>44688627
yes, it does feel good, not only that, but you also get to be a pretty man.
test gives u strength, estro gives u beauty. every cis man should get on estrogen.

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>>44688637
you know, you trannies are really not fighting that hard to beat the groomer pervert allegations...

>>44688627
Sometimes I do wonder what it’s like to look female and pretty. But I’m happy I am a man

>>44688659
you feel cleaner, softer, less irritable, but then I go outside and it’s constant “I wonder if they can tell” anxiety so i don’t think it’s worth it overall

>>44688708
Cis men are not trans, anon

>>44688693
>Do you want gyno tits, worse mood swings, and anxiety.
>But you get softer skin and don't bald as bad!
No thanks. HRT as a cis just feels like playing with fire.

>>44688708
I am not a tranny. I am a cis gay man on estrogen. Estrogen is beneficial for cis men, testosterone is basically an anti-male poison hormone.

>>44688723
the people pressuring cis men to get on estrogen are 95% of the time, lmao.

>>44688627
tranny

n=1 experience:
- colors appear more vibrant
- visual field is broader
- decreased ability to repress emotions (though less prone to anger)
- decreased psychomotor capacity
t. moid who got bored a few years ago

>>44688780
Tf is psychomotor capacity? Sudden strength? Nice insights btw

>>44688870
as in i felt like i had less "access" to my muscles despite no atrophy. i was swimming a lot during this period and used to do a power stroke during the final couple laps. i noticed i was less able to do it while on e. after stopping it came back

>>44688936
Zamn. Interesting to know

>>44688693
>just grow tits, bro
gooner get ye gone

>>44688627
It's genuinely addictive

>>44688627
yes but only for a very specific subset of cis men. most wouldn't enjoy it tbhon.

>>44690279
Do we have a name for this subset

>>44690713
"cis men on hrt"

>>44688721
i think what would happen is guys would get weirdly attracted to you due to the smell but then wonder if they are gay

>>44688637
Except that is makes you more depressed and makes you more suicidal

>>44688627
Do u want big ole titties?

>>44688627
NICE ASS

>>44688627
if you like weed and nipple play, yes. if you like pumping iron, no.

>>44688627
If you're not brainwormed about it, yes.
I like my (way) better skin, way nicer hair and the wider emotional expression. Got lucky with the boobs (no significant growth).
t. 7 years on it already, whew, time flies

>>44688627
The absence of testosterone is amazing, ngl. Like if you're not that into sex and you're not like a body builder or an athlete or whatever, not having to deal with the male sex drive is an instant 30% improvement to quality of life.

In terms of estrogen itself, I wouldn't think so, certainly not at any significant level. It comes with it's own set of burdens and stuff. Trans women experience relief from dysphoria, and certainly enjoy the physical changes, but the moodiness, the anxiety, the monthly cycle, there's a lot of drawbacks that come with the territory of being a woman on female hormones. I can't imagine being a man on female hormones is going to feel great.

The biggest issue I think you'd find is the loss of strength and speed. Testosterone is super soldier serum, it really is, that's why it's so heavily controlled where estrogen isn't. I went from being able to deadlift 300kg to getting tired carrying my laptop around. The fact I can't move my own furniture whenever I feel like it is a surprisingly big L. And there's a whole bunch of little things too, like peeing is different, my skin scratches easier and hurts more when it does, my comfort food changed.

So if you're asking about potential narcotic-like effects, not really. If you're asking about quality of life stuff, it's a mixed bag.

>>44688740
Anti Twink poison hormone, that is. Don't even get me started of DHT

>>44693330
If I'm horribly out of shape and can't even carry around medium sized boxes and tubs full of stuff around the house now, how bad a time am I gonna have on HRT? Should I be trying to build muscle and gain strength before starting HRT so I'll still have some left after taking it, or?

>like peeing is different,
How so

>but the moodiness, the anxiety, the monthly cycle
Are you describing cis women or trans women here? the latter get a monthly cycle?

Just start HRT, and start working out at your earliest convenience. Stop trying to gate living your best life based on performance, you're only going to increase your exposure to moidpoison and prolong your suffering.

>>44694711
I can't help it, I am cripplingly autistic and am an optimization fiend

>you're only going to increase your exposure to moidpoison
I'm already in my early 30s, so I'm pretty sure that I'm already past the point where this matters, sadly

>>44695068
>I'm already in my early 30s, so I'm pretty sure that I'm already past the point where this matters, sadly
nta but you're wrong
T is compounding. It's never done with raping your body.

>>44694701
That big gut on the front of your torso, testosterone gave you that, it's actually full of muscle you've built up carrying your fat self around all these years. Estrogen will evaporate it.
>peeing is different,
No more dick laser, now it's more like a garden hose with no nozzle and no pressure and you just have to wait for it to finish.
>the latter get a monthly cycle?
Above a certain E level, yes. But if you fuck with your hormones it will affect you emotionally.
I didn't cry for 25 years, even at funerals I couldn't summon a single tear.
Now I cry all the time.

>>44695124
in my late twenties and I can confirm that I've started to notice the toll of T on my body. I'm seriously considering starting estrogen not only to get rid of some dysphoria (im nb lol) but also cause testosterone feels like its making me uglier.

>>44688627
yes, it will you give you clear skin and a clear mind but like any dangerous drug it will lull you into dependence

>>44695200

> No more dick laser, now it's more like a garden hose with no nozzle and no pressure and you just have to wait for it to finish.

Is it because of general muscle weakness? Do you have a weaker kegel muscles then? I fear E making me incontinent.

>>44695585
*shrug* I dunno.
I just know I can't aim for shit any more, and there's literally no way to hurry it up, it's just let it start and then wait.

>>44688627
probably not but it's possible i guess. you'd have to be a specific type of cis man who is a) okay with having breasts b) okay with losing a lot of muscle mass and being way weaker & 3) alright with possibly losing penile function. i'm 6 months on e and even though i used it somewhat often my dick pretty much doesn't work anymore (ie full erections are pretty much impossible for me to attain). if you're fine with all that i'd say go for it and if the emotional changes are too much then either stop or lower your dose

>>44696195
What are you taking? Anti-androgen? Anti-androgens cause permanent damage to your genitals.

You should really be doing monotherapy? What estradiol dose are you taking? I’m at 3.6mg EEn weekly, my dick still works and I can cum seminal fluid but it’s clear. I have some libido too. Also taking progesterone as well.

>>44696203
Anti-androgens do a helluva lot worse than that. Sipro will make you pee 30 times a day and it's the safe one. Cypro gives you cancer eventually, tho the low doses trannies take means it takes a long time. Bica fucks your liver.

That said, I tried doing it without the AA, if my T gets above like 2 my brain flips out and I get full blown dysphoria again.

I'm getting an orchie.

>>44688627
It really shouldn't feel as good as it does and I hate that it does feel as good as it does

>>44688627
there arent any effects of hrt that "feel good" there is definitely a sense of satisfaction knowing that my body is finally starting to align correctly with my mind, but there isn't any sensation associated with it. you sound like a pervert MEF