Seriously. I was broadly supportive of the trans thing before, but after using seeing you people talk for one (1) day I am fully convinced that I was a dumbass and all of my friends who were telling me it’s a weird fetish thing were right.Like, seriously. You just openly talk about it here but everywhere else it’s all“No, agp is crackpot! That’s not real!”Like I kind of think y’all are jus straight up perverts now and I can’t even imagine looking the transgender women I know irl in the eyes at this point.
>>44753382And I can never look cis lesbians in the eyes again either because of their misandry.
>>44753406“Misandry” See? You are not helping your case, you people talk like straight up incels here. Touch grass, holy shit.
>>44753382its fine, you wanted a reason to turn on them anyway. enjoy your superiority
>>44753422you are replying to gincelwhat exactly do you expect to come from that
>>44753422AMABs aren't even treated like humans deserving of love, so yeah why be surprised this board on 4chan is like this? I think r3ddit might be more your speed at this rate.
>>44753382why is agp bad
>>44753448I didn’t. I really didn’t. I always stuck up for you guys and defended you from the allegations that you, apparently, just admit to openly as long as you’re anonymous.
>>44753382die cis scum
>>44753462Men having sexual desires is evil. All men should be castrated on birth, further than they are already.
>>44753484that's pretty agp
this website is not what most trans girls are like and half the “trans women” on here are guys from /r9k/, /b/, and /pol/ trying to stir shit and psyop. dont believe everything you see on the internet. for all i know, you could be a LARPer too OP
>>44753473um so what did the transgender women you know irl do?also in the faint chance this is even good faith... do you really think 4chan represents reality or the broader population like jesus christ. its less obvious now or perhaps it's changed but last time i was here a few years ago it was very obviously a lot of people who were not even trans and were just stirring up shit, and 90% of the people who did seem actually trans were either 18-22 year olds in the first couple years of transition working through a ton of angst or online weirdos with severe personality disorders who kept to their little nichesnot to whitewash cause this place is often horrible but like... must i die for the sins of anyone like me...got baited, sigh
>>44753462I mean… nothing? Not in a vacuum anyway, but it kind of devalues the whole “trans women are women” thing when as soon as you can talk anonymously amongst yourselves you basically admit that it’s a fetish thing.
i'm afraid of cis women, they are so judgmentalt. agp crackpot
>>44753382ppl on here js the term agp for like everything>self hating traumatized normalish tranny who feels emotionally healed when people desire her as a woman “i’m so agp lol”>unironic fetishist ketamine puppygirl polycule gooner“i’m so agp lol”
js use the term*
>>44753528cis women hate agps more than anything else in the world, it’s fucked up
>>44753510I suppose so, but unless nearly all posters here claiming to be trans women are fake then I have my doubts.
>>44753551Because they hate seeing men act feminine, and AGP is one of the most extreme versions of that. They want to gatekeep femininity. That really sounds like a function of the patriarchy to me. And yet we see more gender critical proponents rising within their ranks, so no they are not illogical and they will never make sense. They hate AMABs so much that even if something makes zero sense, they roll with it anyway. I'm talking about TERFs, conservatards, and transphobes here, not all cis women.
>>44753585*logical
>>44753382low iq or bait
>>44753382If spending one day on 4chan caused you to turn against all trans women in a day, then you were never an ally to begin with. You never gave a fuck about us and just wanted any excuse you could have to throw us under the bus, simply because a few trans women are gross or whatever.
>>44753569I'm trans and i dont identify with agp or 90% of the stuff said here if that helps. I just have solidarity with trans women and queer people, even the weird ones (up to a point), and I share the suspicion towards cis people who benefit from being reductive about us while pretending to be alliesyou still didn't say what the girls you know irl did to deserve your scorn & suspicion. you're little better than any straight girl who ever bullied you for being 'deviant'
Trans women are trans women. I am not obligated to support cis women and you are not obligated to support trans women.
>>44753569so what if all the trans posters here are real? its still a huge minority of extremely mentally ill trans people.
>>44753616Because I no longer trust the experiences and feelings they’ve expressed to me. I have sympathy up to a point and I know I might be wrong, but honestly the agp thing just makes too much sense especially now having been in an environment where everyone just admits to it.
>>44753382More for me then :P
>>44753626speak a day on /r9k/ and then a day on crystalcafe/lolcow and then you’ll hate 100% of the human population instead of just 1%
>>44753382Have you tried not being so judgy?
>>44753685um again thats like a minority of people. im not stupid enough to put the retardness of those ppl onto everyone ever lmao
>>44753658ok girl you're literally just a conservative ... 'the agp thing just makes too much sense' ... lol you were not supportive of us before you know jack shit about us. kinda reminds me of that quote, i dont remember where from... of like 'all the definitions of homosexuality said a lot about sex, but they never mentioned love, and i thought it was about love'. if you're so ready to see perversion and so uninterested in empathy, self expression or self fulfilment when it comes to transness, that says more about you than it does about me. i hope you leave those girls alone.
>>44753382>Biological lesbianWhat makes it biological?Stop just using words because you think they apply iqletDoing anything to not use the word cis and you only make yourself seem more retarded
>>44753697think about what you just said
>>44753706Cracks me up when people say that, as if everyone else is made of copper and silicon.
>>44753700I’m sorry if you feel offended or hurt, that’s just how I feel right now. And to be 100% honest the first pushback I’ve seen on these issues coming up when an outsider questions it makes me feel like you’re a little bit full of it.
AGP doesn't even make fucking senseall CIS people have "AGP"cis men get turned on by their own performance of masculinitycis women get turned on by their own performance of femininitythat's just how humans are
>>44753820im thinking
>>447533824chan autists do not represent trans people overall, /tttt/ is a small and insane minoritywhat you’re doing is like looking at /v/ and concluding that all people who like video games are schizophrenic racist misogynistic transphobic gigachud incelslike yeah there are some people like that and an anonymous board is the best place for them but they’re not representative of the larger group
>>44753512well some trannies are women but agps deserve love too
>>44753839>i am going to come into your space and assert bad things about you based off nothing>what the fuck, why is everyone being so mean to me?unironically kys
>>44753863To be fair to OP, non-4chan trannies are even worse.
>>44753512"AGP" as colloquially used on this board refers to a kink that results from being shamed for acting feminine, and internalizing that shameblanchard's whole thing about "erotic target location errors" is an incorrect description of the phenomenon
>>44753886>"AGP" as colloquially used on this board refers to a kink that results from being shamed for acting feminine, and internalizing that shameFan fiction.
>>44753905yeah? it basically is. ur reading into fan fiction like its the source material
>>44753382I think you were always transphobic and you're just using this place as an excuse to be a terf.
>>44753839Of course I get offended at the assumption that since I was born male, that automatically makes me a rapist and abuser of women. You really think Trans women are monsters that would get so creative as to uproot their entire lives, gaining the hatred from so many people, just so they can attack women in their private spaces? Like, fuck no. I understand why women are cautious around men, believe me. But not all AMABs are fucking sick perverts looking to abuse women, in fact most aren't. That's just a fact. But I want to be friends with cis women. I want to be accepted as a woman. Please get the TERF poison out of your system.
>>44753859i believe in u
>>44753382>>44753422Nobody is intrigued by your trite, dime-a-dozen, boring, overdone garbage you're parroting from the US government. If I wanted the US government's official statement on trans people I would go to a government website, or any number of boring opinion pieces that exist with your exact same boring opinion. Stop pretending anyone cares. This isn't fresh, new, or interesting. Go away.
>>44753382I'm also a cis lesbian and nothing could make me transphobic because I love everyoneThis site did make me incredibly self hating and guilty about being born female though.
>>44753585If males are allowed to be feminine and women, those who have placed their entire self-worth on "well at least I'm not male" are going to be hurt
>>44753382GIRLPUSSYWOMEN'S SPORTSLET ME LISTEN TO YOU PEEGIVE ME ACCESS TO YOUR VAGINA
>>44753971I’m sorry you feel that way.
>>44753382same but i thought they're agp which made me supportive because i support sexual minorities being one myself turns they're genuinely fembrained (act like all the worst stereotypes of women combined with absolutely 0 of the positive traits)I'm not even baiting here idk if it makes me a trans inclusive misogynist or a regular transphobe considering i dont think cis women are nearly as awful
>>44753839you really dont talk like someone who is actually engaging with what im saying so desu i think you're full of it. you just keep looping back to the same points.this place and its rhetoric gets huge pushback from every other space, its just that there's no point trying to police people who are never going to listen to you anyway. that includes the larpers here and it also probably includes you, because you seem like you're just a conservative. notice how you have no interest in a real conversation with me, just fake concern over offending mewhat does being a woman mean to you? i dont mean definitionally i mean on a personal level
>>44753382this is an Israeli psyop forum that is like 40% chud and 50% shitposting I don't think you're going to be getting any valuable insight here
>>44754358I think it's the abuse and traumalike seriously trans people are heinously abused by most of society outside of just being denied treatmentlike if you subjected everyone to the same degree of body horror and abused them for it a lot are not making it out of that experience well-adjusted
>>44753382most people who call themselves trans are what we call faketrans. they're cis people who wear our medical condition as a costume for various reasons, be it a fetish, due to prior sexual assault trauma, cluster B personality disorders or autism. so yeah, majority of them are fetishists and not legitimate transsexuals.
>trannies imagine themselves as women in their sexual fantasiesso why is this le bad again?
>>44754439The fact that so many people believe there is something valuable here kind of proves there is though, if you think about it, huh?
>>44754003Cis lesbians are by far my favorite type of cissoid on average for what it's worth. I don't hate all AFABs, just the insufferable transmisogynistic ones
>>44754439literally this. most of the posts here are chuds and the most mentally ill trannies LARPing. of course its going to look bad
>>44754609what? nothat's stupid>The fact that so many people are flat earthers means the earth must be flat>>44754672it's the chud/troon panopticon
>>44753382>Like, seriously. You just openly talk about it here but everywhere else it’s all>“No, agp is crackpot! That’s not real!”This website is filled with a bunch of self-hating youngshits and reppers who don't know what they are talking about. They internalized society's hatred of us and have turned it into a fetish. Don't let them paint your entire view of trans people. You're seeing our most damaged when you browse /tttt/.
>>44754456 all the mtfs i like had way worse trauma than the average poster here i think you might actually not get abused enough based on my sample. I don't have issue with being shit like being hysterical or slutty just general cattiness and punching down then playing a victim especially within your own peer group which just seems hypocritical wanted to add a snarky comment about developing empathy but ive seen literally sociopathic trannies who somehow manage to be pleasurable to be around unlike the average hyperagreeable 4chan troon
>>44753382>I’m a Biological Lesbianuh huhYWNBAW
>>44753382the goonposters are rarely actually trans irl
Larp Larp Larp Thread.Do better, Joe Chud. This was sloppy, even by your standards.
>>44754815Tbf the most evil ones are blockershits who had their brains atrophied because "HRT is too dangerous :((((" but I get what you mean
>>44753849>cis men get turned on by their own performance of masculinityThat wouldn't be AGP>cis women get turned on by their own performance of femininityThey can't be AGP because AGP is about being a male who is aroused by the idea of being a female. As cis women are females, they cannot do this
>>44754951>its only AGP if it's from the AMAB region of Sex, otherwise it's just sparkling autosexuality
>>44753382idk, AGP is not any more common amongst troons here than elsewhere, is this bait? Also yay generalisation, you would love that one trans man on twitter who does this with everything just to please his need for categorical fit
>>44753569Lol most of them are, unironically. Spend more than 1 day here and maybe you'll be able to figure this out. Don't forget you're on an ANONYMOUS WEBSITE that is KNOWN for creating FAKE NEWS./pol/ literally invented Q-Anon as a joke.There is functionally 0 difference between seeing all trans women differently, WHATSOEVER, because of 4chan's /lgbt/ board, than seeing all black people differently because of the /pol/ board.Congratulations, you just learned something about how propaganda works?>propaganda, what do you mean?Your stupid monkey brain, like mine, evolved for a social world of hundreds of people. We live in the information age where you can see hundreds of people from a group that makes 0.1% of the population over the course of an afternoon. Guess how many people 0.1% of the global population is? 8.3 million.Trannies are probably 0.6% of the population, by the way.So really ask yourself seriously, did the transwomen you ACTUALLY KNOW like... IN REAL LIFE AND NOT ON THE WEBSITE KNOWN FOR "WE ARE LEGION LOLE" DO ANYTHING TO YOU.save yourself you fool and learn a lesson.
>>44753382 Not trans, but genuinely what's wrong with men having agp? They're aroused by being the woman version of themselves. It's no worse than like how other men are aroused by feeling masculine and manly. Or cis women feeling feminine.Like, am I supposed to walk up to any woman who thinks she's pretty and blushes at a mirror, and be like "get a load of THIS pervert. Lol. What a creep."
>>44753382actual retard take, expecting to see anything but self-hating tranners or chuds on this board is setting yourself up for disappointment, but im glad your honest with yourself now nona
>>44755217>Like, am I supposed to walk up to any woman who thinks she's pretty and blushes at a mirror, and be like "get a load of THIS pervert. Lol. What a creep."Yes.
>>44755217anything men do is perverted and bad and anything women do is awesome and goodwombyn are wonderfulhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect
>>44753484trucycle. Castration (or nullification) is the only known cure for the male rape drive.
>I'm a biological lesbianSo what were you, assigned lesbian at birth?
>>44753658>Because I no longer trust the experiences and feelings they’ve expressed to me.How would you like it if they stopped trusting the experiences and feelings you've expressed to them while substituting a nefarious motivation to your insides, because they spent a single day on /r9k/ and think all cis women are evil?Can you take a step back and think about how doing that to someone, in general, regardless of who is doing it to who or whatever groups the parties may or may not be a part of, is a fucked up thing to do.I remember when I was a kid my parents would ask me how I felt or thought about certain stuff and I'd tell them the truth from my heart and my dad would go into a frenzy, doubting me and saying that I was actually feeling and thinking something else that was against him.That shit crushed me.Fuck you for doing this to yourself.
>>44753839>And to be 100% honest the first pushback I’ve seen on these issues coming up when an outsider questions it makes me feel like you’re a little bit full of it.let's run an example"Omg male friend of mine, I was just sexually assaulted, I feel terrible, I felt so pressured and I didn't really want to do it. He didn't use force but I just felt so coerced and taken advantage of!""Umn, actually I don't believe you because I was reading the internet the other day uh... I think you're actually just a dirty little slut that sought it out and now you're trying to play pure.""what!? Fuck you!""See this is just telling me I'm right"Ahem,死ね。
OP, I suggest you strangle some infants to take the edge off. As a Biological Woman that is your birthright.
>>44753382I’m a trans girl and I need my diapers!We are just like cis girls. Except being addicted to diapers and baby stuff.
>>44756033holy fucking based nona, do you have discord by any chance? i would like to induct you into my 4chan diaper cult
>>44756033I LOVE YOU
>>44753382And as a bio lesbian you're pure and not even a little bit of a pervert?Are you one of those ace or poliles I hear so much about?
>>44753382Interacting with foids has made me incredibly misogynistic.
>>44756033is that you in picrel nona? if so you look adorable ^-^
>>44753382Why do you take this one website as representative of all trans people, and all the other majority of websites as not? Hmmmmmm
>>44756457Nta but it's not as if trannies are any better on those other sites.
>>44753382>one (1)No bio woman would type like this, sorry
>>44753512But cis women are agp too? It's just treated as normal sexuality for them though.Also I maybe I just miss this because I ignore all the threads that are obvious low effort goonerbait (or maybe I'm pulling more from when this board wasn't such slop) but people who openly identify as fetishisticly agp aren't even like a majority here? Like sure people call themselves agp as in agp vs hsts, where it's basically just a classification where all autistic gynephiles go, but that's a totally different thing.Also why are you treating this place of all places as being representative?
>>44755054It is not my fault that it is how Blanchy defined it.
>>44753500>guys from /r9k/, /b/, and /pol/ trying to stir shitDamn that's literally me
>>44753382by this logic, if you spend one milisecond on r9k then you will think that all men are living with their parents to be racist incels who love to rape children and jerk off to loli incel porn on rule34xxx while using every single drug possible before killing everyone that they can and then themselves at their local strip mall(the average man is pretty bad but they’re not going to do these things)
>>44753382Ok. I believe you.
>>44753382>lesbian>not a pervertYour loss bitch
Hey, not sure if anyone still cares but I did read all of your responses and some of them were… interesting, but some were very thoughtful and well said. I understand that I was generalizing in a way that was unfair. I was frustrated with the way this board talks about afab women and responded in a way that was immature and bigoted. I’m truly sorry if I hurt anyone’s feelings. I know you aren’t all weird perverts and I know that is an accusation that is regularly weaponized against trans women and fems. I should not have made this post and I appreciate those of you who chose to have an open dialogue despite me approaching the issue with hurtful accusations and dismissal of your feelings. I know it’s hard for you gals right now and I shouldn’t be contributing to that.
>>44757525I appreciate your honesty here, just try to be better in the future.
>>44753382>I kind of think y’all are jus straight up perverts now and I can’t even imagine looking the transgender women I know irl in the eyes at this point.Straight trans woman hereIt’s time to turn off the internet and go outside to touch grass; the trans population is a minority, Anon. If everyone you know is LGBT, something is wrong with you. A well-adjusted trans person has a life beyond their gender identity or sexuality.
foids are subsentient cultureless pot plant people that will be copying troon aesthetics completely in like a decade just so you are aware
>>44757555Thank you.
>>44757612Just try to remember that there are bad people in every community, and never let that tarnish your image of said community. There are gross lesbians, gross gay men, gross trans women, gross trans men, gross non-binary people, gross straight men and women, gross white people, gross black people, etc. You'll see some of the worst (and maybe sometimes best) people from various different groups on here. The majority of us who are active on 4chan are just mentally ill and lonely though, we mean no harm. It's not for everyone, and I get that.
>>44757525I got tears in my eyes. Thank you so much. I wish more people in the world were as understanding as you.
>>447576444chan is an imageboard of great truthsmost people are bad people, this is the only place where they stop pretending
>>44756033Honestly after seeing this image I have a very difficult time taking anything seriously. Not even trannies, just anything in the world.
>>44757813but she's so cuute nona >.<
