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Does anybody else feel like they just weren't meant to transition?
The more I take hrt I take and the more I engage with myself as someone who is actively transitioning instead of just a man rotting away, the more corrupt and wrong I feel. It's like as my dysphoria becomes increasingly unbearable, I also become more and more convinced that I ought to always have remained a man
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>>44779500
I feel like I wasn't meant to transition. Probably because I don't have gender dysphoria and I'm comfortably cisgender I think.
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>>44779500
I'm just a cis man with tocd who self psyoped himself into developing dysphoria. I will not transition and should be prevented from accessing estrogen.
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>>44779658
I feel the exact same. Any suggestions how we could address the moid problem at it's core?
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>>44779900
I have to stop e first. Then I'll see
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>>44779900
If I knew I wouldn't be stuck here. So far I'm trying find if some psychiatric med or coping method gets rid of it.
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>>44779500
yea I'm like this too. it feels like some critical aspect of tranness are missing from me and it's only more apparent when I interact with real trans people. hrt gas been kinda rough even tho my dysphoria is debilitating at times. I feel as if the little feminine I got only highlight how bad the rest of my body really is. so I've kinda been rotting away and larping as a fag so ig theres that, makes me feel bad my bf has to deal with this train wreck I've got myself in.
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I don't think i was meant to do anything i did in my life and that never stopped me.
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>>44780526
Same. I definitely lack the defining aspect of being trans because it's only been going downhill ever since I got on hrt
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>>44781122
makes me wanna detrans but the dysphoria is pretty bad so I can only imagine it'd be worse. just kinda feel stuck.
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>>44781228
Literally same. I want to detrans because I lack what trannies have and I can't detrans because I lack what the cissoids have
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>>44782979
I guess it's this forever....
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y'all just dysphoric af
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>>44783001
That can't be it. If I was actually dysphoric then I'd also be trans, meaning that it would be possible for me to think of my self as a woman and that estrogen would help. Instead estrogen just makes me feel more and more male
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>>44783096
all of these words and mental gymnastics... for what? you're obviously trans yeah it sucks no it won't get better
welcome to hell this is your new life
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>>44783001
No I'm genuinely just a cis man
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>>44783122
I'd scream if my voice wasn't this moided
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>>44783162
that just so happens to end up on the tranny board and injects the tranny medicine and talks like every other tranny to ever tran?
but YOU are special, aren't you? you could somehow avoid it if you just looked harder for a way out, huh? you're just deluding yourself, you could NEVER be a tranny you're not like them at all, yeah?
cope, tranny. it's all just cope and it will not solve a single one of your problems if you keep thinking this.
because you know what? if you keep injecting estrogen, you WILL look visibly trans give enough time. there is no way out. this is you, accept yourself and start working with what you have. idiot.
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>>44783203
what about me
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>>44779500

ive had many signs over the years telling me to transition but the fact that i was such a porn addicted teenager makes me think im just ashamed of being a guy and think being a woman is somehow better. i tried hrt for a bit and not much changed in my mindset. I mean, i was pretty happy that progress had been made in some direction but desu having boobs sounds horrible and im certain that my brain is permanently ruined by the porn, so I wouldnt make a good one anyway.
I was legit a predator as a kid too, I asked my cousin to show me herself naked and like, cuddled some poor family friend when im sure she diddnt want to and all the kids were sharing one bed. theres no fukin way im not some sex driven freak.
I was just exposed to trans ppl and latched onto it.

best case scenario i just go back to not caring about my body being E dominant or T dominant and go back to having fun. worst case ive put off transitioning for 9 years now.
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>>44783199
good. yeah that's more like it. you are just as miserable of a tranny as the rest of us. admit it. you are one of us. life has completely and utterly fucked you over and for years you have felt it.
now it's time to suffer and maybe, just maybe heal a bit. carve out your little pocket of delusion where life seems just barely okay enough to not immediately pull the trigger on yourself.
it sucks it sucks so much but we will have your back if you don't behave like a complete retard. come and scream together with us in the void.
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>>44783203
;-;
shudupp
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>>44783258
you better buy a few sports bras and start practicing makeup right fucking now because trust me when the point of no return has been reached, and you don't have this, you'll feel SO much worse looking in the mirror and just not being able to un-hon yourself.
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>>44783203
I'm not a tranny and I will find a way to overcome this and live as the cis male I was meant to be.
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>>44783254
I am just as miserable, yet I am still fake. I haven't suffered from dysphoria growing up, I don't have agp, I am not feminine in any way. I just began viscerally hating being a man as soon as I hit my 20s and I thought I still could reverse it and just be normal again, but it's been impossible. I'm in no like actual trans people
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>>44783308
*I'm in no way like actual trans people
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>>44783308
Same here anon same here.
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>>44783308
trannies, both of you are trannies. grow the fuck up. learn to make the best of what you have.
is it great? no. it isn't for any of us. deep down, it's fucking awful a wretching writhing slithering pain extending into the furthest bit of your limbs.
it can't be me. I can't be one of them - but you are. The universe has struck with a fate so incredibly unfortunate and improbable it's hard to believe. I know and I feel your pain.
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>>44783308
same thing execpt im bi and somewhat agp/agamp, maybe im somewhat feminine however but that is really subjective. im in no way like most actual transgender people i think unless? never felt dysphoria before my stepdad died i think, only then i got into the tranny shit related stuff i think im. fuck

I dont think im cis anymore bro. im still a autistic manly man tho and im still not actually trutrans somewhat idk man fuck it hurts now it does
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>>44783375
what even am i bro im not trans im not cis im not whatver im so fucking weird what is wrong with me i was a normal male before this dude idk what happened theres like a trillion more things that point towards me being a retard rather than being trans or something
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>>44783375
you idiot really thought that if you aren't true trans you could somehow avoid it huh?
hate to break it to you but it just hurts even more, because you know it, but you can't do anything about it. you're just as trans as the hussiest huss to ever tuss.
you need the same medical treatment, you will have to socially transition, you belong to the most hated minority, your socioeconomic standing will crumble to pieces, yes, yes, yes and yes.
drugs help btw. not the alcohol or weed shit hard stuff like stims or ket is where it's at.
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>>44783414
i dont need or feel like doing this btw and it doesnt quite apply to me since im not trans and it makes no sense on how i would in theory go through with it and everyone would want to kill me for a good reason im being so fucking serious bro im not normal

name 10 reasons why i am trans i could tell you more whatever you need to prove im not
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and whew boy how deep you are in the trenches. look at that url in your browser... that's the freak site. that's where the losers, the outcasts, the unwanted go.
just stop giving a fuck. just yeet it all away for a complete mindfuck, it's too late anyway. THIS IS FUCKING REALITY THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH YOUR LIFE - and you feel completely unable to stop it or do anything about it other than to just inch closer to the edge of the abyss every day.
but once you let go, once you let it just all wash over yourself, close your eyes, wrinkle your forehead in pain, open the chat box again and scream into our little void, it's gonna be okay. for a while, who knows how long but the most important thing is to accept it's over - and start moving in spite of it.
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>>44783359
Hypothetically even if I am trans or dysphoric why shouldn't I just repress anyway? I'll never actually be a woman or even pass as one, and if I'm doomed to be visibly trans no matter what why not just live as a man and blend into the background while engaging with my usual copes and escapism.
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>>44783458
you are here is the only reason I need. you get upset and interact with me, a tranny, giving you the truth, you defend yourself over something that non trans people just see as an absurd freak show and move on.
you are captivated, enthralled, intimidated by yourself - and rightly so. you are on the cusp of realizing what you are and what will happen with your life.
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>>44783499
shut up bro

since you didnt do it yourself i did
depression, anxiety, autism, trauma, or social failure
ordinary male dissatisfaction being mislabeled
autogynephilia / erotic target location
feelings were not truly early and intense and instead late intermittent and variable
low status, poor fitness, lack of purpose, or weak social ties
escaping via transition
Some men end up living with a private, managed version of the feelings when things are figured out properly.
late-onset, non-classical case

Hope this helps
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>>44783527
lmao 'just repress' is not an option it simply does not exist. you have opened pandora's box you have awoken the beast. you can run but you can't hide.
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>>44783539
>Some men
you're not a man. you're a trans woman.
you experience gender dysphoria. for whatever reason and truly the reason does not matter at all, you want to be a woman. and that alone makes you a tranny.
I mean sure you can keep keep coming up with why this why that but there simply is no reason other than the universe wants for you to live a shitty life.
I'm sorry, I really am, but ultimately I don't care about your problems. I'm just here to tell you how it is.
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>>44783642
im not a trans woman dumbass i just have unresolved trauma or something dude are you allergic to a detractors perspective anyways

"Little or no significant childhood cross-gender history. Feelings emerge or intensify around puberty or later (sometimes much later, even in middle age)."

"In natal males this type is strongly associated with attraction to women (gynephilic), bisexuality, or asexuality, and with a history of erotic cross-dressing or autogynephilia."

"More fluctuation in intensity, higher rates of ambivalence, and later average age at transition."

"Cases with heavy psychiatric comorbidity (autism, trauma, OCD, depression) where gender becomes the organizing explanation for broader distress."

"Loneliness, low status, repeated romantic/sexual rejection, or feeling like a failure at masculinity. Transition is imagined as a complete reset: new social rules, new community, potential for different kinds of attention or relationships, and an explanation for past difficulties."

please understand pl0x theres alot more reasons why dont just be dense
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"the drivers are more often autogynephilia (primary or secondary), mislabeled ordinary distress, social/identity factors, psychiatric comorbidity, or some combination. This is why someone can have little or no clear childhood dysphoria and still become firmly convinced they are transgender"
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>>44783696
why do you keep reading literature about what makes someone trans? why do you have so many paragraphs immediately available on what common experiences or trans people are? why are you on the tranny board chatting with trannies and being told by trannies that you are trans?
I think there might be a certain obsession in you anon. An almost clinical condition where all that's in your head 24/7 is
>traaaaaannns
Crazy to think that the exact same thing happened to me and all of my trans friends... and we are all women now, hmm crazy really, dare I say it sounds like there is a certain statistical overlap here?
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>>44783743
atleast TRY a detractors perspective dude holy shit or some argument besides calling me a le heckin trasio woman man you dont know that this can just be temporary or blown up out of proportion
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>>44783743
also im not reading literature im using grok lmao if that matters.
>I think there might be a certain obsession in you anon. An almost clinical condition where all that's in your head 24/7 is
>le..........tranny!!!!!!!!!

no thats obv ocd
youre starting to seem like a groomer or something now bro
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>>44783812
nope I'm not gonna lower myself to your level. I will just state the truth and nag you. It's more effective because although you pretend to be factually driven, you have a little emotional heart that looongs to wear makeup n make big eyes at hot guys that will throw you on their bed to sex you. tranny! tranny! hihi
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>>44783837
you can just close the tab and stop interacting with me. but why won't you?
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>>44783847
Nigga what on gods earth are you saying now jesus christ

that also isnt the truth
and i am more factually driven
and youre not lowering yourself by just simply being more grounded where the hell did you get that
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>>44783863
because i like arguing with people like you and you're quite weird in the head

You don't know me and honestly i dont either too man
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and i know im not a tranny and i will prove to you that im not because i can
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>>44783869
Your arguments are *yaaaawwwn* boooring. They are an attempt at avoiding the truth.
>>44783879
You know yourself better than you care to admit because deep down you know what it would mean to get to know yourself. You are scared of what you will find.
Why else would you do so much introspection and not know who you are.
tranny btw
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>>44783899
u can't lul
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>>44783907
tell me what the truth is because it certainly won't be true as you think how am i avoiding the truth im literally getting closer to it this is more truth that anything else you've ever said quit being dense

>>44783918
ew
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>>44783939
I think we're done here. Enjoy the journey nona, see ya when I see ya I guess
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>>44783955
on actual distinctions and explanatory power, the points I post are stronger and more significant. your replies aren’t refuting the typology or the alternative pathways they’re just refusing the category distinction and calling me a tranny with no basis at all. its only rooted in emotional depth, youve never had another perspective on this besides TRANYYYYYY!!!

i vvon this btw and ur tranny image is retarded and gay or something
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>>44783955
also notice how you opted out as soon as i asked that lol liek you know what it would be.........

TAKE THESE LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSS
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mad that you couldnt pinkpill and groom me lmao
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>>44783550
Repping was the default state until very recently, sure it sucks but so does trooning.
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>>44783254
I'm the one who initially talked about not being dysphoric. What makes you so certain that the same diagnosis applies to a true transexual who knew they were born wrong simce childhood, and me who suddenly just crashed and burned in my 20s without reason. In my case it's more accurate to call it a ego inversion rather than a genuine trans identity.
I'm sorry about the other poster being so childish
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>>44779500
yeah i felt this way a year in when i compared myself to my trans friends and they were so obviously meant to be women whereas im just pretending

it is what it is, im nothing deep down
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>>44783499
You're my favorite pinkpiller from all I've ever seen
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>>44788617
why would you bump this thread



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