>conseratives and or fascists both hate us 99% of the time without question>libs are inconsistent with defending us aswell as causing the 2020 corpowoke shit that made everything worse for us>commies... just defend uscan someone explain this phenomena? they gain nothing from defending trannies but have done it for years and years for basically no reason
>>44784888Commies hate trannies too
>>44784888because its the right thing to do
>>44784888simple.commies have nothing to lose
Because commies probably wanna have sex with troons
>>44784888They don't need political manivering like the liberals because they know they have no chance of winning in most countries.
>>44784888BECAUSE ITS THE CORRECT THING TO BELIEVE
>>44784951this, calling yourself a "communist" is political suicide in the west thanks to the shitshow of authoritarian regimes masquerading as communism in the 20th century. at this point they'll accept any group that will support them.
>>44784888define commie? because the soviet block and SEA commie countries killed legbutts as intelligencia/capitalist perversion.russia, poland and Romania all has gay hunting police squads right up until 1993
>>44784888>>commies... just defend usthis also depends, stalinists hate trannies
>>44784888you got it backwardsalmost nobody hated you and most didn't even know you existed UNTIL you decided to side with Evil.communists are evil. all of them. trannies siding with commies is not just political suicide, but soon literal as well.par for the course, ig.
>>44785005i get that but they also could have leaned heavily into the authoritarian, stalinist and maoist 'fuck trannies' approach and they probably would have scored well with disillusioned men who would otherwise be hitleritesit feels like they just fucked up
>>44784888trannies tend to be happier as trannies therefore it should be protected.it feels cheesy to just do the 'i want the good thing' but yes i want the good thing>>44785017>russia>poland>romania>communism>>44785020true those people suck but even then there are stalinist trannies
If we are ingrained deeply enough in communist/socialist movements, and then someday they win, then things will be better for us. That's what I hope for.
>>44785027I dunno, there are plenty of unironic tankies who believe that Stalin and Mao did nothing wrong, yet they seem to be socially progressive about trans issues. Paradoxically, they usually support Russia. I don't understand how some of them reconcile the beliefs they have; maybe Orwell was onto something with doublethink.
>>44784888commies don't like creating divisions in the working class (at least, the ones who aren't feds)
Commies are in a deep minority count of supporters so they are willing to take anyone such as trannies. If commies were a viable major party they would happily start moderating or rejecting LGBTQ sects to try to obtain more power.Politics is ALWAYS transactional, never forget that.
>>44784888you've made this begging the question thread before and no simply pretending that the sociopathic twitter tranny shit of 2012 didn't exist or they were all secretly radlibs and not people getting into fights with the cops in portland/seattle/oakland on livestream while raping/beating other trans women who lived with them in some hovel on skid row while doxxing teenagers and forming internet lynch mobs to struggle session random people and get them fired isn't going to deflect from that you lying antifa psychoThat is what you want its what you advocate
>>44785213what
>>44785078>true those people suck but even then there are stalinist tranniescloser to tranny nazis in practice than representative of the group. stalinists are chuddy as fuck, hes basically one of the main reasons the eastern bloc is the way it is when it comes to lgbt issues
>>44785218typical im so clueless chungus act truly depressing you are this way
>>44785236whatare you the anon above? i dont think ive made a thread like this before but you are acting schizo so im just gonna say i havent
>>44785257no and i didnt even read that youre the problem becky
>>44784888why do good things happen ass question
>>44784888because communism is supposed to be about helping those who are most disadvantaged by society, be they poor, disabled or an oppressed minorityshame that every actual communist regime ends up trying to genocide us though lmao
Trannyism just makes sense from the pov of marxismWe have a lot of trans comrades in our movement nowadays We don't have to cuck on our principles for the purpose of political and / or electoral expediency Trans people are one of the principle targets of the rights culture war slop and their culture war slop needs to be undermined in general
>>44785347east germany didn't. no idea why.
>>44785078>>communismisn't this the 'no true scotsman' thing? under marx communism doesn't even exist, its like platos atlantis. its hypothetical utopian end point for political systems. the same people who call themselves commies now are the same people who founded all those 'not actually communist' countries. like, was Lenin not actually a communist? and commie countries were all 100% socialist. almost every commie country has been very anti lgbt, and saying those countries aren't communist is basically admitting anyone who uses the label communist is a retard because it doesn't actually exist. meaning communists are stupid and if they were smart they would use new terms that aren't tainted by centuries of retardation, like socialist (which marx said precedes communism) or collectivism.
>>44786511communists are not people. once you understand that, everything makes sense.
>>44786511>like, was Lenin not actually a communist?basically every communist sect considers lenin a communist>isn't this the 'no true scotsman' thing? under marx communism doesn't even exist, its like platos atlantisthey were saying Stalin was a counter-revolutionary and that those projects ceased to be communist after Stalin's ascent. They weren't making a point about it not being communist qua communism as an end state.>and commie countries were all 100% socialistOnly by Stalin's definition of socialism, which only Stalinists and their derivatives believe.
>>44786617I would consider most bloc countries socialist but socially conservative and I think most scholars would agree unless they were trying REALLY hard to pretend those failed states werent socialist so they can do the no true scotsman thing. I understand that in academia a communist country is one that in theory sets utopia as it's end goal with socialism as a transitional government, but I think communism doesn't really exist and socialistnm policy really is the end goal because class is hard coded into many peoples biological understanding of society. for the record I AM a socialist, but I would never be retarded enough to call myself a communist because I like to think I'm smart enough to not associate my beliefs with totalitarianism and genocide. imo socialism is not a system of government per se but a grouping of policies that are syncratic with almost every other type of government. you can have a socialist democracy, republic, theocracy and (unlikely but possible) dictatorship.
>>44786511the general standard of communism set by marx was to do a whole lot of socialism for long enough that it eventually somehow transmutes into communism. so what everyone was actually discussing and trying to do was socialism with communism being their promised holy land o algo
wait you knew that there was no reason to say thatI'm dumb
>>44786812exactly, so there is literally zero need to identify as a communist or marxist when it triggers a century of anti commie propoganda. if you want to win as a socialist just call yourself a leftist, progressive or collectivist. if you want to be spicy call yourself a socialist.calling yourself a commie just makes you look immature by identifying with a vouch of shit you don't believe in then spending all your energy trying to reclaim what the word means for most people in english speaking countries. marx is an outdated centuries old theorist, you can come up with new names instead of attaching yourself to the freud of political science
>>44786832bunch of shit*>>44786827its okay though I read it, nothing wrong with it I speed read posts sometimes too
>>44784888once you figure it out youll be saying heil hitlerhe didnt hate you
>>44786772>understand that in academia a communist country is one that in theory sets utopia as it's end goal with socialism as a transitional governmentthats not what i was saying, nearly every communist sect considers the SFSR and USSR under lenin 'communist' i.e authentically working toward communism (that is distinct from communism as the end state of a communist movement), they don't consider the USSR under Stalin or the Stalinist derivatives communist, again in the sense of authentically working toward communism.>I think most scholars would agree unless they were trying REALLY hard to pretend those failed states werent socialist so they can do the no true scotsman thing.Its not really a no true scotsman thing, some historian can take Stalin's claims that he achieved socialism in the USSR after collectivization at face value - especially if they aren't interrogating whether or not the USSR was socialist or not. You can thumb through Stalin's 'Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR' - a core Stalinist text - and see that the majority of it is him responding to (particularly weak) contemporary detractors of his claim that the USSR was socialist. Agree with Stalin or not - there was always opposition to his claims about socialism and many of the present day Communists agree with, and consider themselves heirs of, the people making those criticisms. It was always contested and is not simply a product of current day communists pretending the USSR was not socialist to wash their hands of its failure.>but I would never be retarded enough to call myself a communist because I like to think I'm smart enough to not associate my beliefs with totalitarianism and genocide.Communists don't believe communism can come about outside of a revolution, they don't believe a revolution is going to happen because they dress it up nicely. they think revolutions happen as a product of deep crisis which they believe capitalism produces by its very function.
im trans and I believe killing communists is justified and I hope every communist gets tortured
>>44786832his political theories were dumb as rocks but his economic ones hold up today, funny guy
>>44786972lemming
>>44784888because commies are subversive degenerates that hate everything that is natural and goodI would rather be right wing, even if they hate me for existing
>>44786859>if you were smart you'd side with the same people who ransacked the institute of sexology, destroyed all the research and killed all the tranniesmhm yeah totally
>>44787039there is nothing virtuous about the natural. i would think as a tranny you would be aware of that but i guess there will always be some subset of any minority that are deranged, suicidal, and determined to serve their enemies
>>44786983some things freud said hold up too. I'm not saying marx wasn't smart or worth reading, I just am critical of people who are marxists because it exists before 2 centuries of learning. marx is foundational, and his economic analysis is insightful and gives a lot of context to his time period.socialism will make communism should not be the stopping point for how a government is run, and the focus should absolutely be on current material conditions and political realities then the Atlantis of politics.
>>44787066trannies are obviously mentally sick and need to be either vilified or pitiedleftists treating us as HECKIN VALID ended up being a shitshow
>>44787091kill yourself if you find your own existence so repulsive, but stop dragging the rest of your clade into it.
>>44787069agreed
>>44784888Because commies don't feel their systems bursting at the seams / falling apart when they include trannies in the equation
>>44787039>because commies are [phrase that contains no meaning except 'bad']
>>44787103>dragging the rest of your clade into itvoting for commies is doing the same if you're whiteI will pick whatever I think benefits the most people
>>44787131>suicidal empathy for nazistrans women truly are the women of transgender people
>>44787140I would die for the white race HH
>>44787108and the others do?
>>44785078>even then there are stalinist tranniesand there are cambodians who long for the khmer rouge. people are dumb
>>44784888most trans women are working miserable jobs and communism is the movement of the working class whose weal and woe depends entirely on the sale of their own labor so, connect the dots
>>44784951>>44785005communists want to abolish capitalism aka existing society so bringing up electoral results is quite retarded
>>44787177Yup. Why do you think they kirked so many twospirits people?
>>44787039>commies are subversive degenerates that hate everything that is natural and goodMust not gigaquote.
>>44786832>whole thread is slopulismlol the best posts are the Ines calling themselves smart for having the average opinion you'd see on a print newspaper, never change midwits
>>44786572I dunno, they seem to be the only meaningfully anti-Israel force in the west. All the "based" rightoid parties are cattle that give Israel taxpayer money to blow up children and invade their neighbors.
>>44785117those are campists, they just praise anyone who opposes the US no matter how insane
>>44786511>scientifically separate the unique traits of feudalism, capitalism and communism to arrive at correct analysis>"you're doing a no true Scotsman bro"Fucking moron. Is North Korea Democratic because it's in the name too?
>>44787206I was kinda hoping you'd explain why
>>44787226>scientifically>the correct analysiscut the dialect it's bad form
>>44786772>constantly bringing up academic consensus to end up conflating communism into government policies, inherently meaning that bourgeois relations are still in place>"I like to think I'm smart enough"lol socialism is absolutely meaningless and identifying yourself as such is just telling everyone you're retarded
>>44787236are you saying there aren't objective differences between the past, current and future modes of production? holy shit lol also "dialectics" is literally just thr natural sciences, ignore what pseuds bringing up "dialectical materialism" (not a real thing) say
As a communist revolutionary I can take up the fight for any cause no matter how hopeless safely knowing that it won't be of any consequence to anyone
>>44785202Communism isn't about the majority (meaningless populist babble), its about the working class and the working class only.
>>44787253I'm not critiquing what you're saying I'm critiquing the phrasing. people listen more when you speak like a normal person not an academic from the 1800s
i like the neonazi larpers itt calling the real movement of workers defending their own interests irrelevant like fascism hasnt been absorbed by liberalism since fucking wwii
>>44787265yeah mang people don't know what words like science or analysis mean
>>44787274don't play dumb. most people don't use 'scientifically' in that way, nor do they say things like 'the correct analysis'. it's about the vibes
>>44784888Marxists don't believe in gender (blah blah blah dialectical materialism) and therefore adore over Lilith puppyhon types because they believe them to be extremely anti-gender norms. True Marxists ironically don't like gender assimilationist and perfectly passing trans women as much, seeing as perpetuating harmful gendered behaviour.I don't think it's fair to say liberals are inconsistent with defending trans rights. The current backlash is extremely illiberal. Liberals believe in individual autonomy above all else. Blaming liberals for corpowoke stuff is like blaming black people for the Rwandan genocide, it's a bit vague.
>>44787269>real movement of workers defending their own interests>look inside>rich nepobabies using the rhetoric of socialism to justify sitting in sinecures and producing nothing
Communism has only brought suffering and misery
>>44787318what ideology hasn't only brought suffering and misery
>>44787323NSDAP
>>44787313>>rich nepobabies using the rhetoric of socialism to justify sitting in sinecures and producing nothingwhat part of this has anything to do with workers acting in self-interest aka communism exactly
>>44787356>>44787063
>>44787308>blah blah blah dialectical materialismthis is not a thing its literally some post hoc bullshit Stalin made up and mls and Maoists use as magic words to handwave actually having to explain things>its not real liberalismholy fucking shit lol, there's no contradiction between capitalism and arbitrarily taking away rights
>>44787241>lol socialism is absolutely meaningless and identifying yourself as such is just telling everyone you're retardedAlways been the case.
>>44787308sure, in theory. but consider that liberalism will never give us free hrt at age eightthis is not a joke a society that does not have that is fundamentally unjust
>>44787308>ideas drive reality>it wasn't real liberalismYou're only correct insofar as under capitalism all forms of tradition are inevitably dissoluted ironically making it easier for the working class to associate with each other (All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life and his relations with his kind."), but the idea that some gov policy or another automatically makes it more or less liberal of a government as if you can accurately quantify that on a scale is bloody moronic.
>>44787405>people disagreeing about the meaning of words isn't new>this means the word they were disagreeing about at the time has no utility in any way or context!
>>44787360>And please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. But for the moment I am advocatus diaboli. I am making out a case for the sort of person who is in sympathy with the fundamental aims of Socialism, who has the brains to see that Socialism would ’work’, but who in practice always takes to flight when Socialism is mentioned.>Question a person of this type, and you will often get the semi-frivolous answer: ’I don’t object to Socialism, but I do object to Socialists.’ Logically it is a poor argument, but it carries weight with many people.>The first thing that must strike any outside observer is that Socialism, in its developed form is a theory confined entirely to the middle classes. The typical Socialist is not, as tremulous old ladies imagine, a ferocious-looking working man with greasy overalls and a raucous voice. He is either a youthful snob-Bolshevik... or, still more typically, a prim little man with a white-collar job, usually a secret teetotaller and often with vegetarian leanings, with a history of non-conformity behind him, and, above all, with a social position which he has no intention of forfeiting. This last type is surprisingly common in Socialist parties of every shade. >In addition to this there is the horrible–the really disquieting prevalence of cranks wherever Socialists are gathered together. One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ’Socialism’ and ’Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ’Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.The socialists in the west have primarily been weirdos and nepobabies, not real workers, for the past century.
>>44784888communists are famous for deceiving minority groups and legitimately intelligent/well meaning people until it’s too late then the killings start
>>44784888I have no idea. But I went from neocon to paleocon to ancap to "nice guy natsoc" (see Murdoch Murdoch) to trans-inclusive maybe-commie across 16 years...I used to think commies were too pie in the sky fantastical, but I think I carried a piece of most of these ideologies with me to now.>paleocon: people can't be forced to integrate socially with those outside their sphere of understanding and culture without friction>ancap: there are non-dictatorial ways to reinforce norms and cultures, and people are more receptive to light social pressure than to force>NGNS: don't lose sight of people. A government, an economy, a corporation, a religion -- if the people don't have something binding them together, everything crumbles. Find and cherish your people.>now: you can't trust any of the above movements to be the glue to hold your community together. The people *are* the glue. Be kind to one another and defend each other fiercely; you never know when you're next on the chopping block, so don't leave a friend on it.
>>44787535low effort fedpost
>>44787219print newspaper are apologists for isreal and all actively advocate for a more conservative "left". I'm talking about using words in a way that is more effective to actually describing yourself and being understood. You literally can't tell a boomer "communism isn't bad actually". especially when communism doesn't exist.
>>44787536measurehead ahh enlightenment
>>44787594idrc because communism isnt about convincing "the masses". poor workers are already struggling, the task is uniting these separate strugglesi hate this myth that workers are too stupid to fight for themselves and that conveniently its the task of petit bourgeoies educated professionals to show them the way lol
>>44784888Commies say whatever you want to hear until they get into power at which point it usually shifts into a regime since it's a system only good at taking power not wielding it. You want socialists, they still want you to be treated decently but don't spiral into dysfunction as much. Provided they don't get targeted by the US that is, so south america is off the table.
>>44787502im talking about communism aka the real movement and not ideological or electoralist bullshit
>>44787615>you don't want to fix the problem at the root you ought to vote for the ones who only seek petty reform (and end up doing the opposite once they win anyway)It's not even election time, what are you even trying to shill?
>>44787615>communists are [regurgitating propaganda]>socialists are the same thing but if it actually worked
>>44787614it is true. public speaking and organization are skills that come from education. this is why mandatory public schooling being good is so important. its not petit bourgeois either, people from low income communities go and get educated than come back to organizeb only to then be accused of being said bourgeois by "commies". lol.
>>44787633>only to then be accused of being said bourgeoiswhy yes the definition of proletarian excludes educated professionals for obvious reasons, its not in their immediate interests to abolish capitalism like it is to the proles
>>44787627nta but if you can convince everyone to do a revolution but good this time than do it, please. even if you could it would probably be a revolution but bad and replace the system with something worse. china is like the best case scenario for a revolution that kills rich people and it killed MILLIONS
>>44787617Where is this "real movement" free of "ideological bullshit" that's made up of real workers?
>>44787371>dialectical materialism is post hoc bullshit >Liberalism is when le capitalism >Capitalism is when le taking away peoples rights This board is a waste of my time ever since the 4tran redditor invasion, see you in 3 months
>>44787645>the revolution™ will happen when you convince the majorityslopulism that isn't even true when you open any history book lol
>>44787644genuinely one of the most evil posts I've ever read
>>44787645>china is like the best case scenariolmao why do you think that
>>44784888Conservatives/fascists have higher standards of beauty which is why Blaire White is accepted and why Russians adore Gilticus. If you are ugly and exhibit mental illness you get stoned. On the other hand, Libs and commies are just saying sweet words but for some reason they invite muslims in the country which will definitely kill LGBTQ.
>>44787664because it has the best material outcomes of any large post class based revolution state in history, and they aren't even particularly good and a lot of the development rides on selling its own people as slave labor to foreign capital
>>44787646already stated in multiple posts even in the same reply chain, try not being illiterate?
>>44787649>who is john lockebitch liberalism is LITERALLY when le capitalism
>>44787672idk I personally think having killed millions disqualifies it from being considered the best case scenario
>>44787412It's not free if you have to pay for it with your taxesUnless you live in an extremely wealthy country, you'll probably be better off with private and strongly regulated healthcare rather than nationalised health care. Just look at how terrible the NHS is. Go on all you like about taxes/wealth divide/economic mismanagement, even Lee Kuan Yew noted how much money wa wasted by people who didn't take their health seriously because the treatment was "free", and would do retarded shit like forget to take their antibiotics consistently for years at a time.Speaking of which, because the NHS is so burdened carry for Barry 50s, the only HRT you can get on the NHS is pills and shitty patches that don't work for most people
>>44787644Its in nobodies interest to abolish capitalism
>>44787649i said>capitalism isn't at odds with this or that government policymouthbreathing retard>>44787656lol sorry im not a fat american retard who needs to pretend even fucking cops are part of the working class because you don't even know what you're talking about, only feels and moralism
>>44787688>the underclass benefits from being the underclass actuallyare you even gonna expand on that
>>44784888what is this pink max with liver failure
>>44787701Every society has an underclass, it just so happens that the ones in the most capitalist countries have the most material wealth and freedomRather be a worker in america than a soviet
>>44787682name one post class based revolution that didn't result in mass death
>>44787673>no argument in the entire reply chainok retard
>>44787683>nationalised healthcare is bad because the proles just can't be trusted to have nice thingspretty sure there are bigger reasons than that
>>44787720lol please explain how tf communism is NOT expressed in proletarian association acting for exclusively proletarian interests then?
>>44787718name one revolution that didn't result in mass deathhell name one revolution against a regime that didn't cause mass death
>>44787717>can only think of the USSR whenever the topic is brought upAmericans are braindead.
>>44787712she's also an inflatable cuckdw about it
>>44787693>lol sorry im not a fat american retard who needs to pretend even fucking cops are part of the working class because you don't even know what you're talking about, only feels and moralismoh I know EXACTLY what type of person you are, I didn't say shit about cops and you immediately brought them up then stapled them to me as some sort of gatcha even though I have zero opinions any cops. the type of insane freak for whom communism is an accessory to pull rank on people not an actual political ideology or belief system.No, cops are not part of the working class they directly enforce the will of the ruling capital class and are paid all above a "working" wage to do so. no cop has ever organized a steel mill to unionize, but the daughter of a steel worker who went to uni has, and if you actually spent time around real organizers you would realize most professional organizers have experience via family or community with the workers they work for.getting to call people a retard > actually doing politics or helping people.a true revolutionary vanguard, you are so cool how you brag about wanting other people to kill other people with absolutely no care for the outcomes
>>44787656College students are the most reactionary people on the planet, and there's no group as privileged as the American college student.It's one thing for an established pb to go into college and another for some Joe hoping to improve their lot to go, but the end result is the same. Just from different routes. I can't fault anyone for wanting to be rid of a wretched prole existence but people don't go to university to get a career on a production line in a factory. Every student demand ever has been pb nonsense for this exact reason.
>>44787734american revolution. food scarcity dropped afterwards. >slaveryokay yes it was bad but there wasn't mass death.
>>44784888>>conseratives and or fascists>"and or"Go back to waving palestinian flags retard.Learn about what fascism really is>>44784954I hate his muzzy face. He knows he will fuck us over the SECOND he can implement Sharia. And before anyone calls me a jew, kikes arent all that better than the muslims. Would you, as a tranny feel safer with a Jew? Yes. Does it mean you must obey like a good goy and praise Israel? No.
>>44787759yea but it IS pb from working class or immigrant backgrounds who win the most victories for labor
>>44787766>25,534 people died out of roughly 2.5 millionidk that's a fair bit of death I'd say
>>44787774>he's going to implement shariaBASED
>>44787755>the daughter of a steel workerts has ZERO bearing on her ultimate aspirations and position in bourgeois society, especially in countries where getting a degree costs several thousands, i said quit with the moralfagging. also bringing up retarded individual hypotheticals you have no idea how class analysis even works>getting to call people a retard > actually doing politics or helping people.im in a labor union and not a ducking tenants union or whatevrr, what about you lol?a proletarian is someone who is reserveless, whose very life and death depends on the momentary changes in demand for their labour. this is what makes them a revolutionary element within bourgeois society. by contrast ‘wage-worker’ is a broad category that can embrace anyone from a capitalist who draws wages for supervisory work to a petty-bourgeois who works a job on the side, etxthere will never be a vanguard party as long as the proletariat is successfully kept in tow to bourgeois movements and their ideologies. In fact, abandoning criticism of these movements is to abandon the very possibility of proletarian independence
>>44787815oh and that's only counting the american side
ITT: members of bourgeois society cannot see past bourgeois relations. More at 11.
>>44787664>>44787672>>44787682Ignoring that China's revolution was a bourgeois one just trying to move past semi feudal relations, you can't place any a priori restrictions on the use of violence etc., because you can't determine the situation the proletariat will find itself in in advance. But obviously a degree of discipline must be observed, the party must keep its subordinate organs under control.
>>44787627>Socialist is when you voteYugoslavia was socialist you midwit gigadunce, go do a little revolution see how it turns out I'm sure the next starvation event will be a really good one.There's no opinion more decroded than hearing some capitalist fattened suckling have big opinions on communism when the closest thing to it their whole ass lineage has ever experienced around it is a college campus.>>44787632Well you know how to project your stupidity, I applaud your efficiency.
>>44787872Yugoslavia abolished capitalist social relations?
>>44787872>There's no opinion more decroded than hearing some capitalist fattened suckling have big opinions on communism when the closest thing to it their whole ass lineage has ever experienced around it is a college campus.your opinions and aims are literally the same as the ones of a college student lol all you want is welfare, not to get rid of class society
>>44787827kys
>>44787954nah I'm sticking around for that sweet sweet sharia LAW baby
>>44787976Can you explain what you even think sharia law is
god dam trannies are some of the dumbest political takes ever
>>44787995it's the word of allah man
>>44787774>he's muslim, therefore he HAS to be an islamistlol?
>>44787893holy shit owned
>>44787587if you knew anything about any instance of communism you would understand that I am telling the truthpromise good things > deliver mass executionsevery. single. time.
>>44788020lol dont you people fuck goats>>44788272Muslim and Islamist is the same thing, retard.Read the Quran
>>44788544But i defined communism as utopia
>>44787836can you explain how to not be bourgeois and organize then? are you just supposed to do it in a retarded and uneducated way for it to be trve class change or something? isn't that just anti intellectualism? any person who seeks to lead is automatically not a prole anymore.
>>44784888commies still have their soulsfascists have surrendered their soul and given up, cuz that’s what fascism is
>>44789765>fascism is when you sell your soul
>>44785879Not only that but things seemed to get worse for german tranners when the wall fell. One must wonder if whoever was running the gdr was a sympathetic repper or something.
because commies’ beliefs are actually consistent, libs have no principles and conservatives & fascist beliefs are evil
>>44789902>because commies’ beliefs are actually consistentthe only thing communist countries consistently do is devolve into fascism
>>44788544achieve anything whatsoever > brutal dictatorship installed by US militaryidiotic bullshit happens > america sits back twiddling its thumbs
>>44789726It's kinda annoying that people have very strong opinions on this when they don't eveen understand what "most advanced section of the proletariat", as in, not an external group trying to wrangle those stupid workers, means.You can be non-prole and be a communist, just study the class struggle like Marx, Engels, etc did, but nobody even bothers to do this because they'd rather larp than just call themselves plain old libs given their demands aren't exclusively concerned with the proletariat. Protip: you don't learn this shit going to college.
>>44784888commies are retards but progressive pro-social/socialist values in general protect minorities (including legbutts) on equal terms because intersecionality is real
>>44787601How is that measurehead ahh? I'm saying find your people and cherish them, no matter how "your people" is defined.This means fellow trannies, friends, people in your community, the local religious establishment, close knit fanbases, even board mates here/anons you know from altchans. FRIENDSHIP. IS. MAGIC.
>>44793513it's measurehead ahh in the sense of acquiring real wisdom from strange ideological placesoh wait maybe you don't know that much about him I'll shut up then
>>44789810sell? maybe for a few but most of them give it up for free
>>447875364chuds will identify as NatSoc and have their primary defining point of their ideology be "kindness to your fellow human is important" kekw
>>44794383I put the name in quotes for a reason. Nice Guy NatSoc was a joking title Murdoch used for his ideology. Murdoch Murdoch is all about three different personalities' expression of third position belief and philosophy. Murdoch-Chan is an extreme "gas the kikes racewar now" wehraboo. Dr. Murdoch derives his worldview from bioessentialism and mainly just wants to have the uncomfortable discussions on race, IQ, and life outcomes. And Murdoch Murdoch is a hopeless romantic and American libertarian type who flits from ideological label to ideological label trying to find a purpose for himself. MM sees race and nation as extensions of family, and has a more innocent outlook than the other two.My point in even referencing the show is that the mid to late 2010s were a time of early zoomers trying to find ourselves amid serious upheaval. I saw my communities implode during the 2016 election and this was my attempt at making sense of it. I don't believe race to be the pivotal thing I used to, but back then I was obsessed with trying to save American culture by preaching "nice guy natsoc" type ideas. Even if I know now that nothing good comes of that.
>>44788664>Christian and Christian fundamentalist is the same thing, retard. Read the Bible.muslims have a higher proportion of fundamentalists than other religions, but that's it
>>44794282Oh! I actually just knew that he was like a phrenology obsessed 'race realist' type character. I really need to sit down and finish the game.
>>44792837this is an extremely mentally retarded post wow
>>44784888The only things you could do to betray the working class have little to nothing to do with gender or sex. Modern communists in the west are incredibly socially libertarian, even marxists.
>>44786772>>44786812Y'all have no idea what Marx actually wrote and what socialism, communism, transitional period, etc actually mean
>>44797146inform us then dear reader of books and knower of marx
