>cis men can be femboys>trans men can't tho>???????????????????Trans women are women, but trans men aren't men?
>>44788904>Trans women are women, but trans men aren't men?Correct.
>>44788904that's like ftmtf to me, if femboy is little slice of transition for cisguy, it's little slice of detrans for tguys
>>44788904Most femboys I have run into online are trans guys, what are you talking about?
>>44788904>cis men can be femboysLet’s not get ahead of ourselves here.
>>44788904Ftfemboys are men.Once i fucked an ftfemboy up the ass and he called me mommy as he came and he had these enormous puppy eyes and that made ME come the hardest I have in my life. So I will always forgive all "optics nukes" people think ftfemboys cause because I am more of an optics nuke than them for daring to top. (i top because it worships the Sun.)
>>44788904afabs can never understand the male experiencethe sheer crushing futility of it all
>>44788918>if femboy is little slice of transition for cisguyIt isn't, at all. Femboys are throughly cis guys. "Femboy" is a style/culture, like goths, gamers, skaters, etc.
>>44788904femboys are trannies that are too scared to troon outtrans men can't be femboys for the same reason trans men can't be trans women
>>44789263yah it always comes back to doooods wanting to be tgirls
>>44788915>>44789070>>44789107>>44789263>>44789365all trvkes, also it's so crazy how they act like feminine men are accepted at all when the vast majority of society will despise you and as if us actual trannies didn't experience that hatred as children firsthand
>>44788904Trans men can only be femboys if they take T and had top surgery (i.e. they have to actually be trans).
>>44789263this
>>44789429you give these people an inch and they take a mile. they start larping on some "microdosing t" shit or some "got off it because of totally real health concerns", and they pretend like they want top surgery but it's just too heckin' expensive so they have to walk around all the time with their tits fully out in a pushup bra and a lowcut top forever
>>44788904what?idk if you are aware but femboys (the ones that aren´t extroverted gay cis men) just want to be girls, reason why almost all femboys end up taking hrt, and many of those end up being trans womenonly a very small amount will not take hrt, those who rep, and those who will suicide relatively soontldr femboys just want to look like girlstrans men can´t be femboys because the ideal cis male femboy body is just being a woman(maybe with a penis or not)trans men are ftm which means they already start from the goal femboys wantalso, there isn´t a single trans man that takes T that won´t end up looking as a manreason why the only "ftm femboys" out there, are just mentally ill quirky cis women who aren´t on T, and if they started T, they will end up with dysphoria, because they are not real trans mentldr there isn´t a single true trans man, that is a "femboy"however, for trans women, there is the reverse side, which actually exists but is extremely rare: mtf tomboyonly extremely feminine trans women can pull being tomboys (most of them are asian), so they will just look like muscular cis women
>>44788904>>44788915>>44788918>>44789059>>44789070You will never be a womanAlso all you cis females and trannies love to appropriate yourself as femboys but say you hate them. Damn the envy is sad. Also im on hrt and none of your whining on the internet will make myself or others view me as a woman. Keep enforcing gender standards like a hypocrite tho the world still hates you.
>>44789778so i'm a femboy lol ? rather kms, better being desu that being a stupid faggot who knows he's just a faggot
>>44789778Least unstable femboy>>44788904Really anyone can be a femboy since it only requires you to be stupid enough to have a cartoon as your sexual ideal.
>>44789778>You will never be a womanCorrect. That's 2/2.
>>44788904It's funny. There are butch trans women, but the difference is that the real butch trans women I've encountered have gone to enormous efforts to physically pass as women before daring to even dip their toes into presenting butch out of the abject terror of just being read as a man. Any FtFemboy that went to the same efforts to physically masculine before expressing themselves as a femboy would have my respect. Instead I usually see theyfabs and hefabs simultaneously larping as trans and doing everything in their power to profit from being perceived as women.
>>44789365What’s so wrong with that, though? Twinkhons are beautiful, epicene images of the divine, and it only makes sense that I would envy them
>>44788904being a femboy is a trans feminine identity, much like butches are a trans masculine identity. I don't get this need of larping the mini versions of the sex you were born as. Femboys are coping trans women, butches are coping trans men - I get trans men love larping trans woman culture and all that but it's a bit ridiculous to dress as a woman, act as a woman, be born a woman and call yourself a he/him/them/xey femboy. This is literally cis women not being able to handle that cis men would just be overwhelmingly gamp if discrimination wasn't a thing.
>>44789778this is what I mean by femboys are coping trans women. Only someone coping could come up with something like this. TWINKS (aka the actual non dysphoric femboys) are much better than the porn category gender presentation, I'm afraid. An hrtwink mogs an hrtfemboy any day, as one does it to keep his youth and the other does it to... own trans women, apparently. lol
>>44788904>cis men can be femboyswhy lie?
>>44788904>0 ass, hips, or thighs between the two of themthese are either a couple of minors who haven't hit puberty yet, or they are in desperate need of plastic surgery
>>44790421>nona doesn't know young adult women are all malnourished because of the modern beauty standard
>>44790434Heroin chic was relevant like 30 years ago
>>44788904I’m so glad MTFs have the decency not to be like hey look at me I’m a butch tomboy and it’s just picrel
>>44790463It’s ozempic chic now
>>44790509They can be skinny with proper grown up bodies though, I'm skeptical if these are even adults now.
>>44790495they do though lmao. try scrolling r/mtfbutch for a couple of minutes and you'll see droves of these people
Because cis men being femboys is actually somewhat transgressive and takes a little effort. Being a trans male “femboy” takes zero effort and is just expressing as a girl which you’ve done your entire life. You’re basically just being a girl at that point. Fucking pooners are more self absorbed than AGP.
>>44790554like. come on now. this is obviously not an issue exclusive to ftms
>>44790573Why is it always widened to pooners? Dysphorics don’t do this
>>44790573>takes zero effortTo be fair they are putting on good makeup unlike cis femboys
>>44790575yeah that is not a trans womenthe difference is that most mtf spaces will exclude people like that, but most ftm spaces are taken over by trenders
>>44790601Because channers hate females and they see all trans men as females/pooners/holes regardless of how much they've transitioned
>>44788904>Cis femboysThis subverts gender norms>FtM femboysThis subverts transness and homosexuality and reinforces traditional gender norms, it's the inverse of a grizzled man moder asking why no one thinks he's a tomboy or a butch lesbian or whatever, except you are a girl so you won't be adequately called out on it.
>>44790554>>44790575ok but you don't see these people get taken seriously or often in real life whereas every fourth trans man you meet will be like this
>>44790639>are taken over by trendersPassoids and andros don't want to hang out in flocks, so most ftm spaces will be women-adjacent or young (15-18) yr olds
>>44790399>*incoherent groom speak*not reading allat
i didnt say that shit
>>44788904>cis men can be femboys>trans men can't tho"Femboy transmen" are just women with unusual fashion
>>44788904>Trans women are women, but trans men aren't men?Yeah basically. Most FtMFemboys are just straight up women who think getting a vaguely short haircut makes them a "man". But functionally, socially, and visually they are obviously females. Even trying to garner group protection, sympathy, and validation like this is a fantastic example of how female they are.
>>44793200I agree with everything you said but what do you think about "butch" transbians?
obvious bait. troons can't be men and trannies can't be women. duh
99% of cis femboys are just skinny 20-year old guys who wear striped socks when they're jerking off and when they're done go back to wearing men's clothes
>>44788904trans women aren't womenand trans women are women
>>44790554>>44790575I take it all back at least the farms look good holy fuck
>>44790554mogs me
>>44788904my gracious they are cutestyle points off the scalesif boys were like that we wouldnt have to transition and the world would be a wonderful place
i think there's a significant number of people whose ideal form is a twinkhon, and if you're afab this gets compressed to "ftm femboy" because we don't have an actual word for it. can also sometimes happen with afab people who are fine being socially considered women but want a penis.amab people in this category get rounded off to just trans women, because getting to be a twinkhon is like a 75th percentile outcome for adult mtf transitioners and "woman with a penis" is like 95th percentile, so even if your ideal is to pass you mostly take what you can get. a trans woman who's intentionally twinkhonmaxxing won't even be noticed as doing that because it's completely unsurprising for her to be a little bit clocky even if she's trying her best.>>44793237butch transbians are, almost without exception, on estrogen. not really comparable.
>>44788904>Trans women are women, but trans men aren't men?trans women actually transition. in your case, how can you be a femboy if youre not a boy? outside the pronouns in your tiktok bio youre indistinguishable from a normal woman, and being a fem woman is expected and supported by society at large. if you want to be a man take testosterone, work out, chop off your tits (and actually care about the scars so your nipples don't rot away), do SOMETHING else than just update your social media
>>44793115I actively don't want you to transition actually. Please get off hrt. If you are a femboy, why are you taking sex-altering drugs?
>>44788904Most popular femboys are already trans men: sweepkii, milkyray, strawbabyboy, bibble, kiro etcFemboy culture thats anything other than nazis and sharks and ugly clothing is all developed by trans men
>>44789473Trans men can take t until they get voice drop and other results they want and live as cute non balding boys forever, you are just jealous cause your only options were balding or larping as women
>>44794892>think there's a significant number of people whose ideal form is a twinkhonSome trannies keep saying this but its just not happening, its like the worst of both worlds
>>44795781I am an ftm repper, and my ideal form is a twinkhon because they are tall, slender, epicene, and beautiful in a way recognized throughout art history.
>>44795825>t.trans womanNobody actually wants to have a face of asad horse and chimp-like arm proportions
>>44795834I don’t want a horse face specifically, but something bony yet delicate. And long arms are hot when combined with long legs, especially if they have some lean muscle and low body fat. Something like Hunter Schafer without breasts is ideal
>>44795849>t.trans womenLol
