You should be violently forced off of estrogen and stuffed with massive doses of long acting testosterone so you cannot do any more damage to male-kind.

like we give a shit why you did that as long as there's more of us

i give you official permission to keep being a tranny

>>44795515
>not a cult guyz

>>44795515
The other anon makes me think you are right
Why do you even want me. Im disgusting
Im a freak

>>44795499
As long as you are having prostate stimulating sex and a penis, you are not having sex as a woman. Cut that ugly turd looking thing off and become a real girl. real girls don't walk around looking like they have a full diaper in their pants

>>44795509
You mean female kind
I would never hurt a man most my friends are men!

>>44795690
I mostly suck dick and hsve my boobs played with at some point the drugs kick in and let the man dk Whst he wants
I should cut it off only becayse Im a mef loser

Mental illness is widespread now.

Me being a trans woman takes nothing away from any other woman

>>44795702
But me being one does
That’s why I abandoned all trans friends I made :)

>>44795499
>>44795701
>Im a mef loser
Turn into a mef winner. Find love and enjoy life.
Nobody cares why you trooned. Neither the haters nor the supposedly open minded people (who are usually worse than the honest haters). None of this ideological "tru" shit matters.
Do you like being a tranny? If yes, then enjoy it.

>>44795778
My skin is crawling with inauthenticity dude
I wish I was certain like you or try trannies or anyone
Maybe I don’t like anything becayse I hate myself

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>>44795747
If you can fully live as a respectable woman in your public life such that you are functionally causing no troubles or anything for anyone, then it's fine.

You can be mef and weird in your own private space I guess.

As long as you can be disciplined, you can do lots of things like this.

But if you let your insides out into the public and become a nuisance, you simply gotta go.
No other human can judge your heart fully, so we have rules for things, to maintain public trust and order.

Ideally there should be a process for transitioning. Like a ritual that also involves surgery and everything and signifies to everyone in the community that you're changing from one to the other, formally.

I think if we had that it'd simpify things a lot. If you go through the whole ritual, then regardless of anything else, you must be legitimate. If you weren't, you would have backed out at some point.
A process like that is what I'd like to see.

Also no changing rooms or public baths or anything like that until after SRS.

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>>44795778
I care why you trooned.
But I'm just a nobody.
But also I'm so beloathed to possibly accuse someone of not being trutrans when they are, that I probably let tons of "faketrans" or whatever you wanna call it go by when some people would argue I should say something.

That being said if I ever have to find out that someone actually only transitioned for... certain reasons that are less than pure, I'd prefer to be honestly told at the start than realize I was deceived.

>>44795786
>My skin is crawling with inauthenticity dude
Welcome to life. Nearly 100% of people experience imposter syndrome several times in their lives.
>I wish I was certain like you or try trannies or anyone
I'm only certain of two things: I love my fiance and I trooned entirely for fetish reasons.
Yeah, I'm not a "real" tranny, which is why I don't have tranny friends (except a fellow MEFy), but so what?
Yeah, I'm not exactly the most feminine person in existence, because I'm ultimately just a fetishist failed male, but so what?
Falling in love solves a lot of things, anon.
>>44795787
>Also no changing rooms or public baths or anything like that until after SRS
nta but I can definitely get behind that.
but then again, you'd be hard pressed to find a MEFy tranny who isn't adamant about getting SRS.
Ik it's controversial to say but the fetishists (I mean those who transition primarily or entirely for fetish reasons) and transmaxxers usually do cause the least amount of trouble. Tho I suppose it's also because of the class/financial filter. Transitioning as non or lightly dysphoric is not a cheap project.

>>44795812
>I care why you trooned
why?
>at the start
At the start of what?
My fiance obviously knows why (and he finds it hot) but why exactly would I tell to anyone else? It's none of their business. And as time goes on, there's really no reason to even tell new people that I'm a tranny. At my height and age, it's less and less noticeable anyway.
>certain reasons that are less than pure
Kek. I can only laugh at such takes, desu.
Because it really is laughable to tell a post op tranny in a stable relationship that she's fake while embracing the most "pure" "trutrans" who haven't left their homes in 3 years and haven't held a job oftentimes in their entire lifetimes.

>>44795688
because we love you anyway? that's how community works
it's literally impossible to appropriate being trans. your god's worst tranny, so what? keep at it, especially if the alternatives are worse

>>44795843
>Falling in love solves a lot of things, anon.
you should see what having your heart crushed does
try it next time you've got a year to spare.

>>44795787
I don't have a sex drive. Its like a void where my desire should be. Its nice because im happy to be alone. I do think about sex on occasion, but in an abstract way, not a horny way.

I am half envious of others with a sex drive, but im also glad i can be alone without needs

>>44795874
>you should see what having your heart crushed does
I did. But after a while I fell in love again.
Ig I simply am a romantic in addition to being a perv.

>>44795787
>Also no changing rooms or public baths or anything like that until after SRS.

I had a massage recently, with a young woman. I have had srs. She massaged every part of my body. I was naked except panties

I cannot imagine ever being comfortable in such a situation where i had a dick. I struggle to understand how anyone else could be comfortable with a dick.

I think many people are lost, and not actually transsexual, they just get bored and fall into things

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>>44795866
>why?
Personal history.

>at the start of what
If you were going to tell me some sob story about how you transitioned because of X, Y, or Z that isn't true to gain fake sympathy, I'd rather you just tell me straight up that you transitioned for the fetish. That's what I said.
I also made the post above what you replied to, if you don't bother anybody or create a nuisance then idc. I just don't want to be lied to or deceived. That's all. Understood? It's not right to steal other people's life stories for personal gain.

>but so what?
Is a good attitude and it's true.
"I transitioned for MEF, but so what?" is the true powerful argument if you are to make it.
Don't feel a need to pretend to be someone else or make excuses.

>Because it really is laughable to tell a post op tranny in a stable relationship that she's fake while embracing the most "pure" "trutrans" who haven't left their homes in 3 years and haven't held a job oftentimes in their entire lifetimes.
I think you've more directly called yourself "fake" than I have, but I can understand how you read that from what I said.
I will say though, you don't need to shit on others to be more legitimate, it only makes you seem dislikable.
YES, you are fine and can *do what you will*, idc. Be happy, be yourself.
But YES, also, completely broken people out there are legitimate in my own eyes too, whether that source of legitimacy between you and them is the same or different.

All OK?

Listen, I don't really hate perverts, I'm a pervert. I hate people who spin fake shit that pulls on people's heartstrings in manipulative ways. Whether it be a priest or pervert. (Or both lol)

>>44795873
>it's literally impossible to appropriate being trans.
I don't see how this is true for trans but not for other groups.

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>>44795879
OK. Nothing wrong with that inherently unless you feel bad about it.

>>44795892
Many people are many things and every person has a heavenly and a hellish version of themselves. A fetishist and a fucking... what? "true trans soul rebel"? or what have you, they both can appear to be the same in many different ways, in many different points. Two cars going in opposite directions towards each other are in the same place as each other for a little bit.
I understand how hard it can be to see how people could do things that some... inherent part of you can't imagine doing.
I saw my parents watching a TV show a year or two ago where some younger man was sent to jail and expressed disgust and indignation at the old man in his cell for drinking hand sanitizer, and even beat the old man up for it.
But the old man just laughed and said he'd be him someday.
It's kinda like that sometimes I think. But then again, my bias is towards not being suspicious if I can help it over being as accurate as possible.
Most of the time, even if they were to end up detransitioning and hating and regretting it all later, telling them they're not trans won't do anything until they burned themselves on transition somehow anyways. They just get defensive. Funnily enough the same thing happens when you try to tell someone who "totally just transitioned for the fetish" that all the other shit they do is proof that it was always deeper than that.

I wish we could all learn from this.

>>44795942
>If you were going to tell me some sob story about how you transitioned because of X, Y, or Z that isn't true to gain fake sympathy,
Oh, fair enough.
Still, this is why I say that nobody cares. IRL I've only been asked like 5 times, and it was all by brainwormed trannies or weirdo ideologues. Normal well-adjusted people legit don't care in my experience. Of course it helps that I'm not a nuissance, but it also helps that I don't live in an Anglo country. Continental Europe is wayyy less brainwormed about this.
Even people who have looked into trannies by default assume it's a combination of fetish and other issues. The mainstream term in my country still is transsexual for everyone except very marginal hyperideological (and very Americanized) groups.
Now that I think of it, that's probably THE problem: way too much Americanization on this topic. It may have been a good thing 30 years ago, but today the ideas coming from the US from both "sides" are simply incompatible to the way of life in my neck of the woods.

>>44795787
I don’t express myself and just default to being a man
I don’t even have a sex drive anymore it’s so pointless to me. I just feel like a non person. Like I barely want anything anymore.
>>44795843
I don’t know why I trooned. Msybe Im just a making myself a victim and choose trooning as my depression to fight. Something I can blame for my inavtions.

I don’t think I’m capable of love.
>>44795812
My nature is to be dishonest lie and then turn the lie to not truth in the aftermath
Like lying about doing something and then going and doing the thing.

>>44796224
Glad we could come to an understanding.

Also I agree with you, the Americanization of everything is a problem. I feel it myself.

>>44796369
>I don’t express myself and just default to being a man
>I don’t even have a sex drive anymore it’s so pointless to me. I just feel like a non person. Like I barely want anything anymore
I don't know for sure if transition is the right thing for you or not but I think it's evident you need *something* you're not getting, whatever it is.

>My nature is to be dishonest lie and then turn the lie to not truth in the aftermath
>Like lying about doing something and then going and doing the thing.
heh, kinda cute
Just make it by the deadline okay?

>>44796414
>you need *something* you're not getting, whatever it is.
And it is unknowable
Just impossible to know what that is. I was enamored with transitioning i suppose. Coveted the authenticity and content-ness and how real it seemed.
It didn’t help that I got one shot as a kid by themes of changing ones body. I remember distinctly how movies like Ariel made me feel. I was honestly angry with that movie cause who would want to be a cranny human with legs when you can be a mermaid?
I tried to make magic spells to myself when I first had access to internet too like I saw in movies and tv ti become a mermaid or a monster. It went downhill from there and arrived at trooning as a logical conclusion
What the deadline anyway? Death?
Why am I typing
Embarrassing trauma dumping

>>44795499
I was having these thoughts 15 years ago. Now I have to watch a clown commodify them.

>>44797038
are you talking about op or picrel?

>>44795892
I wish I had health insurance and could get SRS. but even if I saved up and paid out of pocket being poor makes the idea I would need revisions very scary. I'm a student right now and don't have real income and rent takes 70% of what I have

>>44797038
congratulations on having a basic level of intelligence. outside of 4chan that's just common sense

>>44797038
Im Pagliacy

Bump

>>44797077
>would need revisions

I paid extra to include revisions. It lasts two years, im due to go soon. Then I've got another year of working out if it will be ok.

After that I'll just cough up again, money grabbing BASTARDS