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okay, so autogynephilia is supposed to be the fetish of a male being or becoming a woman or female and it's supposedly the reason why there's so many ugly retards that look like picrel

My question is how the fuck are you supposed to be turned on by "being" a woman when you just look like a mentally ill man
Like there's even no hint that you might be female, you're a fucking man

How can agp troons jack off to looking like a woman if they don't look like women?
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>>44802537
I think they must see something different in the mirror than what we do. These people are experiencing genuine audiovisual hallucinations and that's why anti-psychotics will sometimes cure their AGP.
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>>44802537
>How can agp troons jack off to looking like a woman if they don't look like women?
they all have a humiliation fetish
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>>44802537
you're confusing MEF with AGP

MEF trannies do not care if they actually look like a woman or not
their enjoyment comes from the humiliation they feel when crossdressing
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>>44802537
The answer will depend on what you mean by agp.
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>>44802537
Modern transgender women are never like this because they transition in childhoot when they're old adults will look like shit
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>>44802537
>>44802581
because a cis man having mef or agp isn't expressed in the same way as a trans woman having it, or a cis woman having it
a cis man doesn't have dysphoria, so he can be satisfied by being a crossdresser in a shitty wig. A trans woman has dysphoria, which prevents "agp" from being satisfied if she's too masculine. And a cis woman doesn't have problems with masculinity at all, so "agp" is recognized and expressed through non-anatomical traits like dressing up in lingerie
men and women aren't the same, and your (and blanchard's) problem is treating "agp" as the etiology of the condition, rather than recognizing that a kink expresses differently in different people.
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>>44802537
this thing should be euthanized, he looks like lenny from of mice and men
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>>44802610
"For a large fraction the AGP is not experienced as a simple fetish they can take or leave. It becomes ego-syntonic, identity-defining, and produces real distress when blocked.
Some develop the dysphoria so strongly that the original erotic component fades or is no longer the main conscious motivation (Blanchard and Lawrence noted this progression).
Comorbidities (autism, trauma, depression, social failure, etc.) often amplify and shape how the AGP is expressed and whether someone medicalizes.
A minority of non-homosexual cases may have other or mixed drivers that don’t fit cleanly."

"trans" "women" are the same as a cis man with agp its just more delusionally retarded shit
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>>44802619
Only for old Boomer trannies who think they look ugly as women anyway
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>>44802619
blanchard is performing time travel to retroactively justify agp as an etiology
it is nonsense to try to claim that a tranny who was dysphoric before having sexual feelings has had her dysphoria actually caused by a fetish. Agp is incidental, and is exhibited differently in different demographics.
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>>44802610
That makes me much more confident im actually a woman. ;-;
Or maybe im just super self-conscious.
Either way that sucks, being a woman sucks, i dont wanna.
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>>44802664
oh my fucking god
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>>44802664
you have an extremely male sexuality please do not delude yourself holy shit
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>>44802610
>"they're not trutrans!" cope, the post
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>>44802685
yeah a man that jerks off to himself in a wig is different from a tranny that actually has dysphoria
some people are actually trans and some people are actually cis
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>>44802537
I'm turned on by crossdressing and it would make me really, really hard if a man admired me while crossdressing but the humiliation itself is enough. If people were to see me or even suspect that I'm crossdressing. Yes wearing female clothes is masochistic emasculation and it's really hot to put yourself in that position
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>>44802692
AGP is AGP
no such thing as a "cis man with AGP"
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>>44802692
all late-onset and agp arent trans btw too so dont delude yourself on that either

you also do not have a differing gender identity or female behavior you are a manly male with a male dominated paraphilia that makes you want to be a woman
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>>44802664
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>>44802537
sad jerking off in the dark is the only acceptable method really
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>>44802581
This. I feel revulsion toward MEF BNWO cock caged sissies with all my heart. AGPs genuinely feel ugly and grossed out by themselves if they don't look passable. It's why we often elect to just be boymoders and manmoders. Embarrassment doesn't turn us on, it turns us off and makes us sad.
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>>44802764
What if I enjoy the embarrassment of looking like a cute girl as a man, and would be disgusted if I looked like a hon? It seems I combine both ends. That's what most forced fem erotica is anyways, guys turning into cute girls and feeling ashamed of it.
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>>44802764
>It's why we often elect to just be boymoders
Can you be aroused by yourself as a boymoder?
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>>44802537
>How can agp troons jack off to looking like a woman if they don't look like women?
They jack off to imagining they are a women, just like I jack off to imagining I have a 14 inch cock, even though I do not
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>>44803034
>I jack off to imagining I have a 14 inch cock
ahahaha do moids really
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>>44802703
>no such thing as a "cis man with AGP"
I mean that is actually the only type of agp so yes



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