Tried giving a trans guy a chance but it literally feels like talking to a woman. Today he was telling me how he has a resting bitch face. Why would you, a dude, ever fucking say that. You’re a 5’7 manlet with no dick, you should be trying everything to overcompensate and here you are saying you have a RBF. Just detransition. How do you people expect anyone to see you as men when you’re all emotional and fragile manlets
>>44870105Well, you're definitely a woman though. A complete bitch
>trans men had female socialization>trans women had male socializationWow thats crazy
>>44870105>Today he was telling me how he has a resting bitch face. Why would you, a dude, ever fucking say thatdo you socialize like ever
>>44870119I’m not even trans so yeah, I know.>>44870122True, he seemed pretty masculine at first though>>44870136Yeah, mostly with real men, who would never say that.
>>44870105I can't take my Ayden friend seriously anymore, he complained about chivalry being dead when his bf didn't get him a drink (bf was like: "you're a man..."), and then told him that he didn't like it when bf called women "bitch," but Ayden still calls women bitch to their face...I just don't know how we're supposed to take trans men seriously when they don't even take themselves seriously...
I'm a sissy, I even have a pussy. What did you expect?
>>44870283Most trans men are women with repressed trauma
>>44870105Talking to ftm feels like talking to a woman Talking to mtf feels like talking to a manI wonder what it means
>>44870286For you to at least act like a man.>>44870295Trve
>>44870295It means trans people do not have literally cross-sex brains and socialization for your assigned sex is unavoidable.
>>44870307I act like myself
>>44870105I’ve heard moids say they have RBF before even an ex said that. Is that really a foid phrase?
>>4487012290% of male socialization is just "put on a tough exterior and don't be visibly emotionally vulnerable". It's straightforward which is why truetrans men just stealth and we never hear from them.
>>44870288I really shouldn't be surprised by this anymore. I don't think I know a single trans man or enby that isn't "transitioning" to escape sexism, rather than alleviating dysphoria.
>>44870105>Today he was telling me how he has a resting bitch face.I say this and I'm a cis male?
>>44870339someone here told me that trans men were a clear minority of trans people before 2010s social media and it kind of blew my mind
>>44870334>>44870343Unless you’re a gay effeminate male then no, it’s not a normal thing to say.>>44870339They should stop larping as straight men then.
>>44870343hahahahahh tranny speakszesty ass bisexual nigga[painted nails emoji]
>>44870336Except they practically don’t exist. This guy also claimed to be “deepstealth”.
>>44870336Trans men are the greatest toupee effect of all time, because knowing that disclosure is detransition requires a male brain.
>>44870336The real trvke is that trutrans men don’t transition just go lesbian or transition and become those AGP detrans fetishists. Most moids if put into a woman’s body would be coomer lesbians or extremely AGP about having a woman’s body.
>>44870360Yeah because troony poonies are autistic and have a very poor concept of what they appear as to others.This lack of awareness of social tact and other aspects of development probably inspire the "dysphoria".
>>44870382I don't fully understand, are you saying the former try to retain their womnahood while the latter are indifferent about their prior body and would be coomer lesbians?
>>44870354>a gay effeminate malenot especially>>44870355the fuck you even saying cuz?
>>44870174>mostly with real men, who would never say that.loser
>>44870521Did that get to you?
>>44870105as a ftm you're a bad friend and it's giving jealousy. maybe you should work on your own issues bitch
>>44870553>as a ftm>uses “it’s giving” and “bitch”Yeah you just proved my point buddy.
>>44870553I learned as a mtf integrating with other women that there are word choice landmines that you don't step on, like using "females" instead of women. "giving" is one of those things but for men. don't say this.
>>44870589honestly you probably have rape accusations anyway im not going to waste my time on you cunt
>>44870604They never learn. It’s like talking to a woman.>>44870614I’m a woman. Also real men don’t say cunt.
>>44870604Maybe don’t police your betters lil amab
>>44870553>it’s giving jealouskek
>>44870624Well your speech patterns are telling me you’re a man… sooo why don’t you work on yourself first :)
>>44870553is it giving jealousy? are you shook mama? should we all yas and slay?
>>44870382Doesnt matter how trutrans or not you are if you are a woman not on testosterone then your sex drive will be lowno such thing as coomer lesbians except hondosed transbians and ftm hrtreppers
>>44870645Holy cope. A speech pattern recognition expert is amongst us!
>>44870604>like using females instead ofYeah because you probably tried to use this as a description for yourself and they're like,æeúgh, tranny male
>>44870352Yeah, it used to be that or every trans man there were 3 or 4 trans women, until like mid-2010s when suddenly reversed due to sudden influx of Aidens
>>44870627I'm trying to help you my guy. My tradie childhood guy friend literally started a conversation last week with me with >"You know what's annoying? What's this 'giving' thing people are saying all the sudden? Like something is giving X?"Unless you are gay, then being seen as NOT gay is a man's prime directive and he doesn't use words that appear gay or feminine.
>>44870667Women gotta be on the ball when it comes to gender trends, like what TikTok taught them!!
>>44870334Men only say it about women, not themselves.
>>448701055'7? Ooh, I like tall men -5'5 trans woman.But yeah, men don't really care about RBF I thought?
>>44870674There’s no use in trying to help them. Real men don’t need to be taught this.
>>44870674Hell, even gays don't want to be seen as gay and that's where the homosexual trannies come from!
>>44870688No one asked how tall you are troon.
>>44870339Only trans women have actual dysphoria, ftm transition always has been a sexism escape. If there was no sexism, everyone would be women.
>>44870691Guys will literal eat a banana with a fork and knife to not appear gay. My co-workers took a picture of me eating a banana normally to troll me
>>44870695Well, I think 5'7 isn't all that short for a man.
>>44870674what many poons don't realize is this applies to woke/leftist males as well, it's not toxic masculinity it's just masculinity, rejecting and avoiding femininity for yourself is not sexist
>>44870283Oh God, I hate when a trans guy friend of mine calls women bitch, but as a trans woman I almost feel wrong calling him out? What do I do?
>>44870715Hang out with real men.
>>44870651>if you are a woman not on testosterone then your sex drive will be lowFalse women who have normal endocrine systems or take extra estrogen are horny as fuck
>>44870715if you pass call him out
>>44870708THISSometimes woke/leftist males make the biggest deal about it too. The sensitive teddy bear type of guy they want is pretty rare.
>>44870715Nah, do not be afraid of telling him to stop that.
>>44870614>>44870624"Real men" absolutely do call women they dislike cunts.Now stop doing it because it's misogynistic.
>>44870718They also call women bitches, but it feels easy to call them out, so idk. I just usually stick to hanging out with women these days.>>44870727>>44870748Fair, thank you.
>>44870624Hon hands typed this
>>44870927You have to convince yourself of that, I know you do.
>>44870945I would actually need more convincing to believe that an actual female's first thought after meeting a fembrained pooner is to go on 4chan and beat up lower-rank beta pseudomales
>>44870981> lower-rank beta pseudomaleskek
>>44870627>>44870645you both latched onto my bit
>>44870105mtfs not enforcing toxic masculinity challenge: impossible
>>44871041Not even mtf. Also not wanting your boyfriend to be an effeminate faggot isn’t enforcing toxic masculinity.
>>44871048>not even mtf
>>44871048making it worse
>>44870715iatajust tell him to not do that around you and create distance until he changes or find straight trans men.>>44870700at this point I'm inclined to believe it.
>>44870105Interesting information in this thread, some obvious some less, I'll beat the fembrained out of me, any other stuff to pay attention to?
>>44871451This anon >>44870614 jumping to "you have rape accusations" is a classic fembrained chimpout line also. Guys will call out a guy with creepy behavior or a pedo stash, but women seem more likely to default to "rapist" "incel" "virgin" abstractly and without cause
>>44871523> Guys will call out a guy with creepy behaviorI wish.
>>44871451hmmDon't use language that's too emotionally committed (e.g. don't say you love something, say you like it or that it's cool)Don't complain about things more than anyone else, otherwise you'll be seen as whinyPretty much just be an emotional and physical tank buildDon't inquire about men's personal lives as much as you would with women's personal lives, unless they bring it up first. you might come off as nosy, and a lot of guys don't really share personal details as quick as women do in their relationships. Have a hobby that you can talk about (sports, cars, video games, guns, computer/tech stuff, space)Guys have a self-aware, mildly self-deprecating joke that guys will find stupid stuff like picrel cool
>>44870105>Today he was telling me how he has a resting bitch faceEven cis emotional fragile manlets show it in a different way, he ngmi, oh my gawd
>>44870105If you don't like short people, then don't date short people. It's real simple. No one forced you to date this person, so why are you disparaging their appearance?
>>44870105man, who fucking cares. if ur gonna play this game, don't bitch n blog ur feelings about it on here. real guys just stay quiet or whatever.
>>44871451If someone talks to you, just kind of grunt at them. Speaking with words is feminine and presents weakness.
>>44870352im lucky to see trans women everywhere i go its only ever transmen
>>44870336I'd argue a far morr pivotal part of male socialization is restraint because you're wired for stimuli and doing shit physically and then they force you to sit in boredom for 11 hours a day and if you fail they get you hooked on speed. Also foids love unleashing endless mental torment and you have to know better than to lash out at them physically. Especially as a young boy. You're not supposed to ever strike back even if a woman physically assaults you(which to be fair isn't often.) but the point is that at an early age male socialization is being tormented and learning that there will be unspeakable consequences for striking back.
>>44872433Well good thing I’m not a guy, right?>>44872350His height has nothing to do with his emotional fragility. He needs to learn how to be stoic and express himself as a man, not as a whiny bitch.
>>44870604>there are word choice landmines that you don't step onThis is trueMtf I think I nuked my chances at a deeper friendship with a cisf acquaintance after I said “fuck work! They can go to hell!” In reference to her employer firing herNot very demure of me
>>44870105I really don't know why some poons bother to get phalloIt will never look or feel like a real penis
People should be themselves and not try to have a fake facade
>>44872874Trans “men” should try to act like real men. Otherwise they shouldn’t transition.
>>44870105I went to a hand and stone and requested a man. I got a pooner. >lolI went a long with it because i know it was a social trap to see who would react.It literally felt like a woman touching me.And it was the first and only massage that never gave me a boner, because I don't like lady hands on me.Saved money on not tipping, though, so that's good. Pooners are such a waste of time holy hell.
>>44870105>>44872879only MtF are real trannies.FtM got jealous of the attention real trannies were getting and decided to larp as men.they still act like women and demand female privileges and cry and act like bitches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUXslDzeYGg
>>44870553Is this bait ?
>>44870703it's pretty short. 5'9 is when they start being average. 5'7-5'8 is short for a man but not incredibly so. still manlet height tho.
>>44871451jus go outside and interact with normal guys. pick up a masculine straight guy hobby like guns, cars, or sports. then learn how normal guys talk and replicate them.
>>44872603Unless another boy does it. Then you unload on that mf
>>44871523i dont get why amabs are so mean about literally everything
>>44870122>but muh socializationgo interact in society like a normal person. my god I swear it's only pooners that have this deep sense of learned helplessness. it makes me think that they're all women because only women could refuse to take responsibility like this, and I'm a ftm tranny myself.
I’m AFAB
>>44873484>and I'm a ftm tranny myself.
>>44870105Of course its a women. If an actual man was trapped in a female body they would not willingly become a third class citizen. FTM is logically impossible.
>>44870614“You’re a creepy rapist” insult how fembrained can you be mr ayden
>>44870105i've dated two trans men and ur right op they're all whiny, weak, dickless manlets. they look vaguely like men while lacking every trait that makes men attractive
>>44870105> You’re a 5’7 manlet with no dick, you should be trying everything to overcompensate no cis woman i know enjoys it when guys "overcompensate." it's universally seen as bad. Its especially worse when the person doing it is already not attractive.>How do you people expect anyone to see you as men when you’re all emotional and fragile manletsmost cis women also don't want to deal with the consequences of emotionally repressed guysI'm not gonna act like a cis guy, you know why? cause cis guys love shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to dating and relationships. you sound like you expected someone to be in the crab bucket of insecurity with you.
>>44873469You're on 4chan this is the internet equivalent of dogs barking at eachother from the other side of the fenceMen irl have a functional kindness agreement because being too much of an asshole leads to violence. Possibility of violence is the base underlying substrate of all male communication. This why men answer bullies by physical confrontation
i actually wouldn't mind seeing a pooner fucking a woman into a matress and stretching her vagina deep with her huge skinwalker cock and cumming inside a bitch and impregnating her
>>44870627Its giving 5'4
>>44873970My afab childhood prevents me from acting amab like that
>>44873568not that I act like one lmao
>>44873948overcompensate in the way of bettering yourself. no one wants a manlet who acts like a girl. act like a real man, gymmaxx, and looksmaxx.
>>44873415That's kinda silly; who cares about 2 inches? For reference, the average height for women in the US is 5'4; calling a 5'8 man a manlet is like calling me a height hon at 5'5, lol.
>>44873565You know what? I sort of feel like I agree with parts of that picrel.Not the parts about monolithic socialization. The parts about AFAB-only spaces. I think they make great TERF containment zones.
>>44873948As a trans woman, if it's ok to give a woman's perspective, I totally agree. Many of us like kind, emotionally in-tune men.Yeah, some will get icked out over wordering or a man crying... But why do you want to date them?If a woman feels that way, you can probably find a woman who does care about your worries and insecurities.
>>44870553We need more ftm posters on /tttt/ so I can learn how to post like a woman
>>44870752don't cunt so hard then
>>44870553>its giving LOOOOL pooners are hilarious. I love you lil doods you're a walking talking circus!
>>44875574Come on, don't be a jerk.
