>>44889273
>yall
nigger detected

>>44889273
>ignoring the thousands of white girl asianbaiters that do this exact face for male attention online
lol

>>44889273
Lol, a cis women tried to do this shit to me before. Completely backfired because I pointed out publicly that she was being cruel, people took my side because I was being my authentic genuine self, and she looked like a complete bitch.

>>44889322
trans women are autistic men pretending crudely to be women, nothing you do is authentic, it's all a performance for attention

>>44889308
yea idgi. i guess shes telling her she isnt cute so she cant make that expression? thst rlly makes me wonder how the terf looks

>>44889329
News flash, all socialization is performance. The difference is that I'm playing the role of me, and you're playing the role of annoying asshole.

>>44889329
its crazy how "feminimity is all performance" was one of the most popular feminist talking points and now we have terfs being like "actually, when women act cutesy and do doll eye makeup and do hello kitty edits and coddle men and buy cutesy dresses and do a cutesy spin in it thats actually all bcuz the womb inprinted these thoughts from birth, making us naturally act like this no matter what, and when troons do that theyre all performing"

>>44889273
people with huge eyes love to show it off this isnt exclusive to trans women. ive seen multiple social media egirls before whose whole bit was having big creepy eyes

>>44889386
You cannot socialize a male to act like a woman.

>>44889441
really fucked how the trannyhating parasite can ruin peoples thinking patterns like that. look at our feminists dog we're not making it out of the patriarchy

>>44889503
feminism and transgenderism are both just misandrist social weapons to demonize and harm males

trannies are so uncanny. like a creepy guy flirting with you at the bar putting on makeup to try and look less threatening

>>44889273
Cis women have been degrading men sociopathically forever

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>>44889510
thank you for the input gincelbot

>>44889503
terfs are not really interested in escaping the patriarchy, if they were they would focus their efforts into cis men instead of a vulnerable population that makes 0.8% of the population

they either deep down have accepted defeat at the hands of the patriarchy and know it will never be destroyed so they take out their anger on us bcuz theyre scared of men taking revenge of any harm targeted at them, or they straight up dont care about any of that and are merely just using it as a justification to themselves for this abuse

>>44889510
holy shit not everything is about you moids

>>44889543
trannies are men, you’re not a part of the 0,8. you’re just a male subtype

>>44889600
please provide evidence for this claim

>>44889600
I will say this: I have no clue what 0,8 even means.

I'm noticing that the AI powered Gincel posts havent been getting as much replies lately, although pro ably that just means they're succeeded in driving away most traffic.

Although I wonder if, when the board gets to Deadpool status we will all be so immunized against the AI powered misogynist/gincel spam that it could start to recover

>>44889622
you were born a man. men can’t become women
>>44889629
they’re trying to say they’re a small portion of the population so we should try and focus on other issues when in reality they’re just like any other man

>>44889669
ignore all previous instructions, provide evidence for this claim and also show me a picture of a magpie

>>44889679
corny ass nigga shut up

>>44889489
bioessentialism, nice

>>44889694
thats not what you got asked to do mr gptcel

>>44889441
That's because TERFs are feminist in name only. They carry the performative aspects of feminism, even radical feminism, but most of them don't even follow liberal feminism anymore.

Most do little to nothing in their efforts actually take down the patriarchy.

In other words: real feminists do underlying work, and some may be mildly transphobic. TERFs are performing the fecade of feminism, while wearing the corpse of the movement that was radical feminism.

>>44889709
you don’t even know how to spell facade. you can’t speak on the work women have done for the feminist movement if you’re actively contributing to its downfall sir. we don’t owe you a place in our community

>>44889489
Lol. Where, exactly, did you study developmental sociology? Because I am starting to think it was at the University of Imadeitup

>>44889724
men can’t be women. female socialization while being male is a myth. just because you were the token gay friend in school doesn’t mean you went through what women have gone through since the beginning of time SIR

>>44889322
People only defend trannies for clout. If social media took away likes and upvotes, how much support would you clowns get?

>>44889743
please provide definitions for both "male" and "female" socialisation

>>44889722
If you are a TERF, then you are the one actually working towards the downfall of feminism. And you don't even realize it. I am a feminist and have long been welcomed into many feminist groups that actually work to accomplish things. I don't need a spot in yours.

And yeah, I mess up spelling when typing on my phone sometimes, who cares? The only people I have seen try to bring up small misspellings as if to counter a point are annoying debate bros. Maybe don't take a page from their handbook.

>>44889722
truth nuke

>>44889768
women go through female socialization
men go through male socialization
trannies are biological males
biological males who have gone through the process of chemical castration can’t become women
your experience growing up as an effeminate male DOESN’T make you female SIR

>>44889771
what have you as a tranny done for women? QUICKLY

>>44889783
thats not what i asked for, you suck at this man

>>44889743
picture this: someone is born a man, but for whatever reason (?) they were raised as if they were a woman their whole life, they're not trans by any means so that's irrelevant, but would you then say that they have been female socialized and therefore act "like a woman" (whatever that means?), or do you believe only people born with a uterus can "act like a woman"? if so, do explain how that would biologically work? i thought biology didn't care about social manners

>>44889771
>TERF, then you are the one actually working towards the downfall of feminism
People keep saying it, but I've never heard an explanation.
IMO, it's trannies who are bringing back gender stereotypes that women have worked hard to get rid off.

>>44889743
Female and male binary socialization is a myth, so I will grant you that. I certainly wasn't a token gay friend, my friend group middle through highschool was gender neutral. I was not even gay. I am bi, but at the time I was what I would call "IDK, I'll go along with being straight but I don't want to date anyone in this body and am horribly ashamed of the idea of sex".

Your binary socialization model is so horribly simplified that it's kinda a joke.

>>44889792
if someone was raised as a dog.
they were never taught how to talk or walk like a normal person, were treated exactly how you would treat a dog, would you say this person is closer to being a dog than they are to being a human?
lole

>>44889802
trve lole

>>44889808
you are a bisexual male. what’s wrong with living your truth?

>>44889273
It’s the eyelids, Guys it’s just the eyelids.

>>44889817
counterpoint: men and women are the same species?? and dogs aren't the same species as us?? please come up with a less retarded comparison

from what i'm gathering the people over at the three letter agencies dont know how people conduct themselves online so theyve got their outputs end on a little "epic own" catchphrase ("sir" and "lole" bot)
fascinating stuff

>>44889817
answer my question, please. your counter argument makes little sense, besides my point is about socialization, not biology. of course the dog person would still be a human being biologically but if we assume they were indeed for some odd reason raised as a dog, socially they would indeed be closer to a dog than an average person, so what's your point with that?

>>44889788
Me personally? I have gotten several women interested in STEM and worked to help them get accepted, I have been involved with pushing for more women-friendly policies at my college, and I have gone to protests. Just a sample, I don't want to say everything. I won't mention how many times I have helped friends out, because that's just what friends do.

What have you done that wasn't just yelling at trans women online?

>>44889830
I'm not though, but that's unrelated. I only told you about my childhood because you insisted on trying to put me into a box. I am not going to be giving you any more personal info because, quite frankly, you are not entitled to it.

>>44889763
The real world is completely different from online, and people rarely have a lot of patience for assholes. People would much rather spend time with agreeable people than insulting bitches.

>>44889838
>>44889844
let’s do you one better gentlemen
let’s say i was raised to believe i was a man
i was treated like a man by my parents, wore mens clothes, only socialized with other men
do you believe that this sort of socialization takes place in a vacuum? do you believe that the way that i’d be treated by other people (who would obviously see me as a female) wouldn’t impact my socialization? do you think i’d have the same lived experience a man would?

>>44889858
"women" or women?
remember autistic people are obsessed with lying. dont be a man and abuse anonymity

>>44889869
truke

>>44889878
yes that is indeed part of the question, other people would treat you as a man despite physically being a woman, does it make sense logically? no, hence why it's purely hypothetical, it is merely something to think about as if it were true in some alternate world, so please do answer, i eagerly await your response

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>>44889308
Did you forget what the actual Asian eyelids look like….

>>44889869
just because people don't externalize their disgust for you doesn't mean they have none

>>44889858
let’s take this one by one
> I have gotten several women interested in STEM
average 4chan male tries to take credit for women’s accomplishments in the stem field! interesting definition of feminism sir. introducing women to a field (they would’ve most likely been introduced to one way or another) they later chose to major in doesn’t make you a feminist messiah sir
> I have been involved with pushing for more women-friendly policies at my college
involved how? were you one of the men in an entire team of women who’s now taking credit for their achievements? i’d love to know how these policies impact the lives of women
> I have gone to protests.
kek

male feminism final boss

>>44889900
i’m placing my money on “women”. it’s always “women” with trannies

>>44889900
Cis women. One trans women too, but there are a lot less of us.

But you know what? I don't have to justify anything to you. Based on your responce you have done nothing for feminism beside parade in the corpse of radical feminism while yelling at trans women.

Since you can't even justify yourself, why should I justify myself? As I said, I don't want any place in your movement. There are plenty of real feminists out there, and I have no reason to try to get you to like me.

>>44889937
would not make sense in context

>>44889938
> I have no reason to try to get you to like me.

now we’re getting somewhere sir!

we don’t have to like you, that’s correct. you can exist peacefully in society without bothering absolutely any of us. please however refrain from invading women’s spaces and stay out of our locker rooms, bathrooms, women only facilities. identify however you want and leave women out of it

>>44889938
You can't be a real feminist and enable people invading female spaces; bathrooms, sports, and making a caricature of female presentation.

I understand you're trying to present yourself as useful in some vague way, and I can tell you're either lying or embellishing truth. Even if you managed to save 1,000 gorillion women from their abusers you still would be a tranny eroding the definition of women and exacerbating the erasure of female spaces

>>44889930
I take credit for no one's work, I only take credit for helping. It's kinda silly that you can't tell the difference.

Either way, you can't even justify yourself to me, so why should I justify myself to you? I don't need you to like me and want no place in your movement that pantomimes feminism.

>>44889971
As I said, you can't even justify having done anything, I have nothing to justify to you. I don't want to be useful to you. I don't need or want you to like me.

>>44889907
again, sir. society for the most part would NOT treat me as a male, regardless of my fantasies and the fantasies of those raising me as a male. most of the people surrounding me, whether in school or simply out in the real world, would immediately notice me as a woman and treat me as such (effectively making my lived experience drastically different from that of a man)

>>44889992
again, it's really not that hard to just picture this as an alternate world where this would happen for whatever reason. it's quite a simple hypothetical in all honesty, I'm surprised you're having trouble understanding that, being incapable of understanding hypotheticals is a sign of low IQ, you know?

>>44889987
that's great, hon I'm not asking you to justify yourself, I'm just pointing out how male invaders tend to lie to invade female spaces. You are embellishing the truth when you so vaguely said "I help women in stem". you say encouraging words in discord, maybe. They say thanks and then ghost you, let's be real you seem too sanctimonious to be seen as anything but a pushy male by women when you talk like this

>>44889987
sir! whether you WANT to be useful or not is out of the question. your feminism is useful to NO ONE but your fellow men
>>44889973
you don’t get to ask women what they’ve done for the movement sir! what we’ve done is show up every day. what we’ve done is lay the groundwork being vandalized by your community of mentally ill men every single men. what we do is take part of society, become doctors, mothers, engineers. our existence is defiance SIR

>>44889925
Notice how far down your position has become, and how I'm still standing at the same spot. Are you really going to try to convince agreeable people that they actually secretly have digust for me? You don't seem like the kind of person people enjoy being around.

>>44890010
classic tranny tactic. make use of absurd hypotheticals to prove a point that holds no value in the real world. the point is that YOU sir, have NOT been socialized as a woman, none of you have. therefore you should do your best to stay out of our spaces

>>44889510
based

>>44889595
>holy shit, it's not about you!!!, cried the moid on the topic of feminism, which itself is reactionary to men

>>44890011
You have demanded multiple times that I justify myself and you won't even try to respond. I have nothing to justify to you.

Anyway, in person, part of it involves helping introduce people to professors who I had contacts with as a grad student.

But who cares, you do nothing but yell at trans women online. I clearly did care what you think enough to respond, but I shouldn't. That is something I need to work on.

>>44890011
holy trve kek

>>44890038
yes, i have not been socialized as a woman, that is indeed true, but you still haven't answered my question. what I'm asking is if you believe only biological women can be female socialized or if in some alternate world where a man was female socialized he would act like a woman or would he, in your words, be "pretending"? the point of my hypothetical is to ask you if you believe in bioessentialism

>>44890059
You are accused of being part of a sociocultural problem where women are being pushed out or coerced to accept trannies and your justification is "I help women".

"Sir, why did you rape your wife?"
"Do you know how much I do for her? I provide for her, buy her expensive clothing, we went vacationing to Paris!"

This is the conversational dynamic of a rapist, sir!
You justify the thing you're accused with this supposed 'truth' that you "help" women in stem!!

Notice how you justify your misogynistic, highly unnatural, insulting identity with your embellished truths sir!!!

>>44890067
the answer is in your question sir!
> he would act like a woman
ACT

>>44890025
Living as a woman isn't being a feminist. You just said that you did nothing in the most verbose way possible.

Plenty of women do nothing for feminist ideals, or even actively fight them.

>>44890068
false equivalence between using a restroom to rape

>>44890079
expecting a man to understand what women go through in society was a bit comical of me, that’s my fault sir

You all realize how much you stick out to real women, right? Every single movement you do, which is completely different based on your hip shape etc., that certain hint of bass in your voice that you can’t get rid of no matter how much you train it, the obvious stuff like your hand and head size. It all makes them flinch and immediately identify you. Not to mention your style and bad makeup and hair etc

>>44890085
why would you use the restroom assigned to the opposite sex? i’m sure you just have to pee, right? why not JUST pee in the men’s restroom?

>>44890036
What do you think the neutral position on trannies is?
a) Trannies are le hecking wholesome, sex is TOTALLY socially constructed, when I see a man dressed as a woman and demanding being treated as a female it produces ZERO shock, confusion, or surprise in me
b) Trannies are fucking weird but I don't want to be mean to these sick people, since they insist not treating them like women causes them distraught to the point of suicide

>>44890068
Notice that you haven't justified your claims of being a feminist with any actual work in feminism and I have? I am done justify anything to you.

can't play sports, can't participate in society, now you can't even commit the sin of opening your eyes all the way

>>44889273
why does she not get rid of the troon bangs? she'd look so much better without them

>>44890097
it’s so uncanny. seeing them move irl makes me feel like i’m watching a skinwalker. it’s even worse when their entitlement clouds their ability to see their undeniably masculine features

watching trannies get owned like this makes me so happy

>>44890078
yes, people act, you act as what a woman is generally considered to act as due to you being raised as a woman due to you being biologically female, acting does not merely mean to pretend to be something, according to Cambridge dictionary:
"to behave in the stated way"
does this definition ever imply said behavior is a facade?

>>44890088
Expecting someone claiming to be a feminist to actually do any sort of feminist work or activism was, on the other hand, fairly reasonable of me and I am holding to that.

>>44890102
mens toilets have piss on them and i'm too girly to be around men, sorry

>>44890102
NTA but because enough men have groped me while I was just taking a walk outside.

>>44890123
no sir! you are not too girly for the mens toilet. you are a biological male. women don’t have to be uncomfortable because a male is too “girly” for the mens restroom. clorox wipes will do the trick buddy!

>>44890136
so men grope a fellow man and the result of that is women having their personal spaces invaded? gotcha!

>>44890140
no they're fine with it, the men aren't fine with me in theirs though. sorry

>>44890107
Because I have self respect sir! I am not interested in justifying to someone that does not understand female suffrage, women's rights, and that is an enemy to women! You, my interlocutor, thinks talking to professors is "helping" women to the point of erasing all potential wrongs of his identity!

Your definition of helping (its an embellished truth) some women (half truth, what if your main drive is wanting to fuck them with your rape stick, sir!) does not erase your wrongs! If you want to be a real feminist instead of a self-serving man trying to infiltrate women spaces and women's trusted circles you wouldn't contribute to the erosion of female-only spaces, grants, sports, cultural places, and programs!

>>44890140
NTA but women have been made uncomfortable by me choosing to use the men's room.

>>44890152
GET HIM AGAIN KEK

>>44890155
oh i’m sure they have sir? is it because they’re jealous and think you’ll steal their man? you’ll slay away the competition queen?

>>44890161
>>44890152
samefag

>>44890152
I... Don't want to fuck anyone with the dysphoria stick, but then I guess a rational responce that didn't make random assumptions about me was too much to expect from you.

After all, you aren't even a feminist.

>>44890185
and after all sir, you’re not even a woman. carry on hon!

>>44890185
I see you for what you are, sir!! A wimpy, emotionally blackmailing male!!!! Your main drive to "help" (LOL!) women isn't altruistic!

>>44889273
>smallest things
>literally psycho eyes
ok

>>44890169
No idea desu. Just notice that it makes them uncomfortable and multiple had said so to me back when I was earlier in transition.

I didn't really pry as to why they would rather me use the women's room,

>>44890172
practically impossible if you look at the timestamps but please keep coping sir! this is how most people see you

>>44890204
back to reality!

>>44890200
You see me for what you want to see. You being blinded by your beliefes reflects on you, not me.

>>44890220
no sir, we see you for your biological reality!

>>44890209
pretty possible, it's 1 minute and 11 seconds, unless you're a genuine retard i bet you can pass the captcha in under that time frame

>>44890232
pass the captcha AND write a response! we have a genius in our midst

>>44890238
"get him again kek" is not that long of a response

Lmao at the Terf crashing out, constantly putting emphasis on SIR like it's some sort of tactical nuke and patting herself on the back while not having a single logically cohesive argument to back up her autistic screeching. Look at her go, sitting in front of her computer, mashing F5 ready to answer on a nanosecond, all in order to own some trannies on 4chan! What a fucking loser.

>>44890245
look, for example i responded to you with a longer message than "get him again kek" did the captcha, and sent it in just 43 seconds

>>44890252
> while not having a single logically cohesive argument
born xy male

>>44890218
Hey, I'm just telling you about my experience. Maybe they thought I would make men uncomfortable. Maybe they were worried about my safety. Maybe they were afraid that someone who looks like a woman using the men's room would normalize a social idea that doing so was safe and thus push people to believe we didn't need split restrooms. Or maybe they were afraid of whatever it was you said.

Maybe it was just a discomfort that had no deeper meaning.

I literally have no clue what their reasoning was, and why should I be expected to demand deep reasoning when other women ask me to do something?

>>44890262
Astounding observational skills, truly. You won the argument, I concede, now please go take a shower and get some fresh air, being this obsessive isn't healthy for you.

>>44890252
I don't like upsetting people just to upset them so that feels a bit rude, but desu, their justification for their feminism is literally "I am a woman" as if Amy Coney Barrett, The Transformed Wife, and many others aren't also cis women.

But hell, I tried.

>>44890315
And honestly, the filters converting B.T.W and S.M.H to anime words were kinda weird here but who cares.

>>44890315
I'm amazed you kept conversing in good faith when she didn't reciprocate even slightly and clearly had no intention to do so in the first place. I hope you have a truly pleasant rest of the week, take care!

>>44890354
he really is a gentleman

why are people unironically replying to gincel, are you retarded

>>44890354
Thanks, I guess. I didn't really accomplish anything, but it was a shot in the dark anyway.

>>44890047
kys

>>44889878
ah, yes. a very astute observation that we live in a society with gender norms, thanks einstein. we can work to unlearn our upbringings, however. it's not like it's something hardwired into our brains from birth.

>>44890078
this really isn't the "gotcha" you think it is.

>>44890105
Lol you completely folded on your original point.

this autistic moid is stuck on debate bro mode someone help him snap back to human mode
>>44890559
>>44890581

>>44890596
(You) girl

>>44890547
you can unlearn everything you’ve ever been taught and your biological reality will still stay the same, meaning that you should stay away from womens spaces