Their only use is to give bottom fags permission to do what they probably always wanted to do

>>44939113
what's the purpose of this? i know i'm a total slut, no need to hypnotize me into this

>>44939113
I’m attracted to guys more than girls now but it didn’t change my identity

>>44939164
Its largely for pretrans AGPs and sissies

>>44939113
Bimbos are boring I just want girls to have big titties

>>44939135
If you are a rapehon, then sure

>>44939390
apparently there's a bambi sleep subreddit for cis women only
and I wonder why would any cis woman ever be into this

You need to keep in mind the entire field is very much unregulated pretty much anywhere on Earth meaning none of the people making or pushing this shit are under any obligation to care about your wellbeing or consent

You'll be far safer drinking unattended cocktails than you would engaging with that cancerous community

>>44939113
Kei is far more dangerous in my opinion, at least their old stuff was crazy sophisticated compared to some creep reading a script into a mic

>>44939706
Could you explain Kei's old stuff? I read some of the descriptions but they were so abstract it's hard to make out what they are actually doing

>>44939668
>and I wonder why would any cis woman ever be into this

What's so weird? Ego death + sex slave conditioning works on both genders

>>44939749
The point of it was to have foreground commands that take your attention while there are a bunch of whispers and distorted voices in the background. Your conscious mind can't focus on all of it at once but your subconscious does.

A lot of their old stuff was feminization, seing yourself as female, acquiring a craving for dick, being possessed by a female spirit that hijacks your life, etc.

There is still probably a public Google drive floating around that has half their old content.

Also I think it should be said they had an episode where they smoked too much weed, listened to their own files, and got convinced they had summoned a feminine tulpa into their head and went a bit crazy for some years

Personally, their files allowed me to get lost in moments of deeply feminine surrender and I wanted it to be real so badly I transitioned

Bambi Sleep is fake and gay
>>44939749
Is Kei the same person who made the CORE shit? Or do they always just adopt that kind of name because they think they're cyberpunk Asian mindhackers? I just recall someone with a similar name making CORE.

>>44939803
It's the female "spirit" I'm curious about. Like how exactly does it actually work after it's done in a day to day life? What is it actually like?

>and got convinced they had summoned a feminine tulpa into their head
Isn't that literally the point

>>44939971

No clue what CORE is. Mind elaborating?

>>44940065
>day to day
Installation of automatic habits relating to posture, reaction to other girls, etc. Presumably your subconscious mind reacts to things before you notice, which accounts for discrepancies between people's assumed identity and how they actually behave. So, if your subconscious mind is programmed, you don't have this split. The problem then becomes removal of the conscious mind...get it out of the way.

t. Bambi

>>44940065
>how exactly does it actually work?
1. homo or tranny represses their desires/degeneracy through guilt and shame
2. Discovers magical powerful external 'thing' that is 'forcing' them to now be homo tranny
3. Feel less guilt because of it
4. 'give in' to the 'brainwashing'

>>44939668

Lots of cis women have this fetish lol. I have a cis lesbian friend on discord who went all the way into the meme and became straight/bi.

Actually all of the standard trans fetishes can be experienced by cis women, usually queer women with traumatic backstories. It is rare but troons are rare too so there's roughly equal numbers.

>>44939681

You are retarded if you actually believe hypnosis can harm you.

Anyone who presses play on the audio file is hoping it works lol

>>44939971
No they did not do CORE. Their stuff is like

>Demon Girl
>Spirit Girl
>Mind Virus

etc.

> Like how exactly does it actually work after it's done in a day to day life? What is it actually like?
so they tried a bunch of different strategies, earlier stuff was just to hypnotize you and get you to imagine your body and mind were female. that evolved into imaging you are getting shrink wrapped by a pink balloon that secretes girl chemicals that soak into you, or that a pink feminizing cord gets plugged into your third eye and you catch a feminizing mind virus from it that overwrites your personality.

That then evolved into demon girl, where the idea is that by listening to the file you are doing a ritual to summon a feminine spirit into your body and wilfully are giving up control to her.

1/2

>>44940136
Thanks but meant more like in day to day experience and how it feels rather than technical explanation

Like some of his "Demon Girl" files were part of the Mind Trap series but I'm unsure how this name actually translates into actual effect. What is even a "Mind Trap"? And how does the whole "Demon Girl" motif affect the result and experience?

>>44940193
2/2

Which... if you take a step back actually sounds a lot like transition but with fantasy language. IMO the files get you to recognize the feminine atributes of your mind that males are trained to surpress, sure it pretends that these things are coming from the outside but they of course have to be coming from the inside. The files really show you how feminine you can make yourself feel.

Out in the real world I noticed a number of things.
>If you listen to the files too much, the commands will get stuck in your head like a catchy song and you will just have them repeating annoyingly thoughout the day
> I am able to get really present and put myself intentionally into a flow state, this also used to have the benefit of punching right through any mental conditioning or other bullshit thoughts I had. After listening to Kei heavily, this state that I thought was base reality and could not be changed, was changed. I can't explain exactly what is different but it felt like it went from stark bleak reality to reality with some feminine joy sprinkled on top.
>If I listen to files now, I notice I tend to be more at ease presenting fem or hyper fem, but then I tend to rebound the other way after a day or two, then find a new normal slightly more fem that lasts for weeks/months/permanent
>AND THE BIG ONE: I feel way, way more comfortable and familiar with letting female moods exist in my conscious life. As a long term repper I did everything I could to purge everything soft, gentle, nice, remotely feminine out of my personality. These files have gotten me much more comfortable experiencing and embodying those feelings

>>44939803

I remember listening to these and I could credit hypno for cracking my rep game

But the bare fact is none of my hypno induced fantasies were as submissive or androphilic as my sexuality at age 12. Like I was a literal semen demon whore constantly fantasizing about sex with boys and men much older.

The real miracle was how I ever suppressed it not how the hypnosis worked

>>44940179
>I have a cis lesbian friend on discord who went all the way into the meme and became straight/bi
oddly hot, lol

>>44940200
Any idea why Kei seemingly wanna bury the whole thing and pretend it didn't exist? As far as your description is it sounds infinitely less abusive and amoral than the whole Bambi community

>>44940202
do you remember what files, or how seriously you listened to them?

Would you say for you that hypno created a special environment where your base androphillic nature could be brought into the light of your awareness?

When I was at that age I wanted to either body or gender swap with whatever girl I had a crush on, then end up in the receptive role.
I don't really know if I am naturally into men, but I definitely am into men now. It's horrifying, but also thrilling and sexy as fuck. I am terrified of what I am becoming, yet that draws me in. And I don't know if this is just my own nature I am afraid of or if this is what hypno has done to me.

whatever the case I bought the ticket, and I am surrendering to the ride

>>44940288
They got really afraid that they were harming people or fucking with forces they shouldn't be after their episode with the tulpa. The thought they had put something dangerous into the community and wanted to try to get as much as they could back out of the community.

To their credit their files have definitely permanently fucked with my brain. Like I said in other posts, I think it really was just releasing things that were already there, things I wanted to released. But they also did permanently change me

>>44940344
>The thought they had put something dangerous into the community

Did he in your opinion?

>>44940471
he? she? they? I have no idea what they are

as for the files? I don't think they can do anything if you don't bring something for them to work with, and a willingness to surrender to them. with that said I was powerfully drawn to them and found them addictive. And while I know they did not make me trans, they definitely helped release it and I still go back to them when I feel like I am getting hung up about feminine expression.

If anything I think the community, especially part-time fetishists that listen to this stuff for a thrill, were not ready for what these files revealed about themselves

>>44940499
Which files is it specifically you used?

Also do you know anything about the Mind Trap series? They are part of a different series so I presume they do something completely different

>>44940539
I think I said it somewhere else, I went through a ton of their files, it was what resonated for me at the time. Sometimes id even mix and match and get myself tranced out on the intro/deepener of one file and switch to the payload I had cued up on another one.

The last files I used were
>Demon Girl Fairy Crown
>Demon Girl Secret Feminizing Collar (listened to this one tons)
>Demon Girl Wet Pussy
>Good Girl Feminizing Dream Memories

I don't know anything about the Mind Trap series, is that some of their new stuff?

>>44940569
No, it's one of the series of files that they deleted

I can upload them if you want so maybe you can figure out what they do? Not too keen on indulging myself since I'm unsure what they actually do

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i've never listened to bambi sleep lol what do they even say

>>44939113
idk I listened to them for awhile (a few years off and on) and nothing really happened other that my egg cracking and deep desire to be my best self.
10/10 would listen again if I had the time.

>>44939706
>>44939749
>>44939803
kei's old stuff is WAY more dangerous than bambi
the thing about bambi is that even if it worked 100% as well as people say, bambi sleep intentionally separates the bambi persona from the original self. There are later files that intentionally blur the lines or make bambi take over, but you can just not use those files, and even if you do it would take a lot of conditioning to really overwrite your original self with bambi, given that so much of bambi sleep focuses on only being bambi while in uniform.
Kei on the other hand made all sorts of crazy shit with none of the safety of the uniform, like the demon girl files and stuff. Kei's files directly targeted your sense of self, to the point where some of them conditioned you to think that your soul was being irreparably feminized and would continue into potential future lives or afterlives. Kei himself used too much of his own supply and had a schizophrenic breakdown and thought he was actually possessed, and he purged all his old files.
Nowadays they're hard to find, I don't think you can get all of them anywhere but retroshare. If you really want kei files you have to go to twicechan and get on the the retroshare codes from people on the hypno board, and then wait for the connections to get in the network and wait for people with the files to be online. I don't think there's any other way of finding them now.
But personally I don't like kei's files, the audio techniques are too distracting. Bambi sleep is much more regular and mechanical, which personally I find much easier to trance to. Kei's stuff is messier and doesn't have the same modality as bambi, where you can make your own playlists of inductions and deepeners and stuff, a lot of the kei files just drop you straight into it for an hour.

>>44939390
>>44939668
bambi sleep was literally intended for cis women, the guy originally made it for his gf. Most of the users are probably still cis women, it's just that women don't want to talk about it with the sissy boomers on reddit.

>>44940736
you have no idea what you're talking about lol

>>44940755
wrong

>>44940736
I thought he made it for himself?

>>44940918
did he?
I'm pretty sure I read that he made it for his gf, but I might be wrong

>>44940725
I'm the Kei poster you are mostly reply to. What do you get out of the bambi files? I have listened to them a bit but they seemed really boomersissy so I stopped

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>>44939113
I have not listened to them because I take hypnosis seriously and don't want to deal with having a tulpa, but I've seen people post transcripts and they're actually hilarious

>>44940949
you have no idea how arousing it is to be a passenger in your own body while she gets you dolled up, signs you up for surgeries, makes you act feminine and embarassing in public. it feels like losing control of your life to somebody that is doing everything you wish you could do but for the fear

>>44940941
I like the feeling of emptiness and thoughtlessness, I like the iq reduction aspect and the idea of being brainwashed in general.
bimbofication is hot but I do agree that bambi is kinda boomersissy at times, the main reason I got into bambi is really just that there's so much content. It's hard to find good hypno in the first place, and so much of it has stuff that I'm really not into at all, like attraction to women. Bambi is a bit cringe, but there's no hard turnoffs for me most of the time

>>44939113
Its for sissy mfers tbdesu
Quite cringe

>>44940941
Do you have a link to any of their stuff? It seems really intriguing. Hypnosis never works on me but I'm interested

>>44940974
I don't need a hypno tulpa for that. I can be a stupid slut without any help. I also don't find being feminine embarrassing and wouldn't want to

>>44940153
It's exactly this. It has more to do with religiosity and belief than someone's audio editing. The fact that there are "subliminals" is similar to taking a sugar pill and feeling an improvement. The subliminals don't even matter. Bambi Sleep is no more effective than any of them, it just has audio editing and production that is better than most fake hypnosis and it sells itself with a website that is themed and other shit like that. The gameification is another selling point. The ritual is more important than the audios content in convincing someone they're a bimbo or whatever. But at the end of the day the receptive listener already wants to suck dick. It doesn't change your sexuality or identity and you are retarded if you believe it or any hypno file can do that.

I think you retards are projecting your conception of boomer sissy, the files just draw on things already in your mind about the subject they present to you, if you think they are boomer sissy that says way more about you than it does the files.
lmao

>>44940974
Imagine literally having the power to shape your personality, sense of self and behaviour in any way you want and the best people can do is to turn themselves into tranny whores

Do you not see how absurd that is?

>>44940949
the files don't create a tulpa, it's more like a mask.

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>>44939113
What is this

>>44940725
Any suggestions for Kei files if I just want something hot?

>>44941243
Eh, all the editing is about getting past your internal resistance and tests. Like distracting your conscious mind with something arousing while subliminals repeat phrasies aimed to affect your preferences

>>44941272
Spoken like a youngshit. Wait until you are older and your brain wont let you think things with out mind altering substances or weird ass rituals

>>44941276
What's the difference?

>>44941327
a tulpa is a person and a mask is a thing.

>>44939113
hypnosis is larp, just fyi
>>44941280
THE sissy hypno that terfs and jesussexuals were panicking about

>>44941340
Oh, huh, ty, not the thread for me then

>>44941349
You don't have to listen to low effort shitposters, nona

like any hypnosis, it works only if you want it to. it's more like listening to light suggestions while zoning out and letting thoughts click. anybody who says this is like brainwashing or mind control is mega larping.

>>44940949
Lmaooo the photo

>>44941455
I mean in general I agree with you.

But hearing the same phrases repeated again and again for an hour while you are stoned out of your mind, or listening to hypno all night while you sleep, and every waking moment you can fit in, and doing this over and over again will absolutely fuck with your head. But maybe that is what you want?

>>44941474
right, i'm not saying the files have no effect. i think of the repetition as similar to hearing a jingle. like if i heard an addictive jingle about going to the zoo (idk just making up something random), i might be able to immediately recall it years later, and no doubt it's ingrained in my head, but i'm not going to go to the zoo unless i wanted to already. on the other hand, if i was super into the zoo, yeah it would definitely get me to go more if i constantly had the jingle in the back of my head.

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this all sounds completely retarded and insane lmao
like, pardon my ignorance but can't you just troon?

>>44941532
some cis women like the bambi files too. it's not just about being a woman, it's about becoming this caricature of a highly sexualized woman.

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>>44941536
porn has irreversibly corrupted the human condition

this thread is just people who found hypnosis helpful and then randoms who come to chastise them for it.

>>44941552
I think you mean chastitize lmaoooo faggottttt

>>44941558
I literally spelled it correctly...

>>44941552
I'm sorry, but the knowledge that any mid to lateshit tranny I meet might just secretly be an instance of some SCP-esque mind parasite is inherently funny and absurd.

>>44941532
People want to be trannies without the guilty, basically. Like, a lot of people want to be girly or sluts or faggots, but for various reasons, would never actually do that. So they’re really into the fantasy of being forced to do something they secretly want.

>>44941593
I wonder, how someone would react to hearing their trigger during an otherwise normal day?
>>44941594
this is a very cringe meme!

ngl, having a bambi gf/wife would be hot. i'd make a deal with them that i'll keep up with the larp BUT if they ever break the larp, i'll never take it seriously again

>>44941622
>I wonder, how someone would react to hearing their trigger during an otherwise normal day?

Their trigger will get triggered I presume

Idk what kind of question this is

>>44941594
That was kinda my experience. Like I trooned out in 2016, at this point I live a fairly normal life, but stumbled on this shit and decided to try it and I will say, I felt more motivated to do my make up and hair before work when usually I would have just brushed it neatly and done skincare and called it a day. Choosing my nice shoes instead of my usual sneakers etc, there was a sense of permission that lasted to be more feminine than I usually am even though I already am

>>44939681
Doesn’t this only work on people who are retarded though?

>>44941637
yawn...

>>44941647
yep. thankfully i'm retarded though so it's fun

>>44941306
not really, I don't have any kei files anymore
I think you can easily find a few of the demon girl ones on google drive folders if you google a bit

>>44940725

You guys are literally so retarded...


No Patrick smoking weed and listening to an audio file didnt make you gay

I know people want to say hypnosis doesn't work at all, but it definitely does work to some degree
it's not as powerful as people like to say, but the point is you need to believe it can work for it to work, so promoting the idea that it's extremely powerful and dangerous makes it more effective
I've experienced things like lost time while in trance that's definitely real, and not something you can just do by choosing to forget the last hour of your life or something

>>44941647
Hypnosis is particularly effective in people with dissociative tendencies, which happens to include most trannies. So not strictly speaking retarded, but it does work better if your mind and identity are already a bit of a mess. I can see it actually causing a problem if you meet the criteria for a clinical dissociative disorder

>>44941724
very jealous of the girls with mental illness rn

I'm sorry but I would trust the hypnofags than the guy who just days retarded over and over again like a broken record

The way i see hypnosis like a lot of other dissociative maladaptive comes trannies have is that like its all founded in self hating and conservative tendencies.

It almost always operates to actually like delay someone trooning out because it makes them think its a fetish

Or if they're already trans it can psyop people to ruin their life or like cancel their srs thinking they're a man.

Basically rather than accellerating you to some magic room the devs didnt want you to access it just slows you down and makes your life less than what it could be if you just accepted urself and did therapy and hung out with your friends.

Basically dont shut out ur friends to drink mikes hard lemonade and smoke dope and talk to bots all day and ull be ok

>>44941742

I'm the most hard-core hypnofag alive and I can promise you its BS.

Just read books meditate and work on self acceptance and have seggs on grinder. Don't waste a decade of your life.

>>44941640
>there was a sense of permission that lasted to be more feminine than I usually am even though I already am
This.

>>44941775
You are free to make a complaint threat. Just don't shit up this thread for those who actually value the discuss

It's no different than TERFs entering /mtf/ to whinge

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How i be acting after listening to hypno

Hell no nigga ts had me at costco in a sissy outfit never doin no shit like this again

>>44941866
you chose to do that yourself. stop denying your own agency just because you listened to a goofy robot voice

>>44941852

If I see ignorant ass retards posting dumb shit that harms people and delays their transitions by playing to their vices im gonna speak up.

Like the problem isnt the hypno per se its the discourse that surrounds it and the ladder pulling and shenanigans that goes on when peoples horny brain interferes with the thinking brain.

People start hypno because they're reppers and don't want to go to talk to a therapist and feel like they're too scared to act feminine. And the fact is its not fear its a combo of rational self interest and doubt, a mind that has been trained to think; rather than feel.

When you do the research and have the experience of how operant conditioning and psycholinguistics works you realize all human behavior is psychosis and as long as you're shutting yourself in a room trying to hypnotise yourself, you're slowing those thoughts down and containing them. It's just like the one nona said about bambi and the uniform. If you talk to the reppercore males doing this it becomes very clear that the purpose is to act as a release valve so they dont have to be feminine and date men in real life.

I am trying to save you and everyone else here lots of time. You should use my knowledge not reject it.

>>44941532
Being feminine is shamed in this society, even for cishet women. People have a lot of guilt to work through

>>44941904

**all human behavior is hypnosis

Not psychosis.

At least... Hopefully not.

>>44941775
>>44941904
I don't think anyone here is having their transitions delayed by hypno
that definitely can happen with repressors, but I'm pretty sure we're all past that

>>44941904
Counterpoint, I decided to troon out after a 12hr bambi sleep session

>>44941928

That sounds actually hot and based can you tell me your story? I'm interested

>>44941866
good girl

>>44941904
I would never have had any support in my life on any level, the only reason I ever trooned out was because I was allowed to experience something on some level. I managed to troon out before 30 and that's good enough for me. We are not equal in our experience and that's okay, I know more about some things and you know more about others.

>>44941943
hearing this in public is always wild. like not in a "omg you just used my trigger" way but like damn am i really that see-through?

>>44941904
please continue to drop knowledge, I am reading

>>44941964

can you walk me through the blow by blow of how it actually happened?

I'm not saying like, i'm unhappy or didnt transition or am a hon.

I am just disputing the narrative that hypno helps people. But I do want to hear from people who genuinely may have been helped by it.

>>44942010

If there's any knowledge I can drop its that the suffering people most often feel is doubt about what's right for them/ what their true self is.

And the best way i can describe it as like a shortcut is, you can choose to follow the feeling that makes you feel giddy and happy and too-good-to-be true, hold onto it even through the rough times when the doubts come back, and you WILL be okay and end up being who you want to be.

There's no filter that happens where fake fetish troons die of some horrible comeuppance because their motivation was impure.

>>44941904
>It's just like the one nona said about bambi and the uniform. If you talk to the reppercore males doing this it becomes very clear that the purpose is to act as a release valve so they dont have to be feminine and date men in real life
this is true
I think it's men who have the most problems with bambi specifically because they're unable to integrate these desires and personas with their real life.
when you read about bambi sleep you hear a lot of stories from men about how they're scared or ashamed of the bambi persona, and are constantly worried that they're going to do some feminine thing in real life because of it, or that bambi is going to take over their life.
on the other hand I don't see that kind of thing from women, I think if you're already happy living as a feminine person it's much easier in fact to keep bambi separate as something you can semi-roleplay and enjoy, but don't have the constant stress over the fear of bambi affecting their lives.
I do agree that most of the men using hypno like this are repressing either homosexuality or transsexuality and that it's not healthy for them, personally I'm glad I didn't use it before transitioning.

>>44942022

>randomly browsing web
>extremely turned on by idea of bambi
>decide to start listening
>start dressing, experimenting with makeup
>files don't feel strong enough
>research more
>stumble upon articles on being trans
>stages of grief
>eventually come to terms with being trans
>transition

basically it expanded my life experiences, which increased the likelihood i would stumble into something that would make me realize i was trans. thank you bambi sleep.

>>44941764
>Basically rather than accellerating you to some magic room the devs didnt want you to access it just slows you down and makes your life less than what it could be if you just accepted urself and did therapy and hung out with your friends.

But that is what happened to me. I am the Kei poster from earlier. I found the right strains of weed, found the right combination of files, and found the right masturbation technique to move the pleasure out of my dick, and even not feel my dick. By combining all this I was able to try on female sexuality, I was able to try on being submissive, I was able to imagine being fucked by guys. It gave me the peek behind the curtain I needed to take the next step and start HRT. Then a month or two after starting HRT I was feeling like a normal person, my brain was massively unfucked, I knew I was trans, and I knew I was never going to go off HRT because I never wanted to live with a brain that angry again.

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>>44941853
this is the funniest thing I've read all day so you know I had to dub it
https://voca.ro/13ZpxUabqVyl

>>44942044
<3

>>44942137
gem

>>44942134

That actually is a powerful story and makes me feel good.

The thing is, the brain of someone who has never let themselves think of being a girl and having sex is different from someone who's been consciously fighting it and faced active repression from parents as a kid. Like the way your brain was set up sounds really good with positive values to guide you, maybe just developmentally delayed with sexuality. For a many of us the delay we got mainly came from being told we couldn't be feminine. And in that case hypno can become a crutch where you access thoughts you got trained to repress.

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>>44942022
You want my life story, alright.
can't really remember where I first heard about Bambi files but I can remember finding out I was trans in 2014 in my first year of collage, I tried to come out but my friend group very anti trans at the time and my close family didn't accept it; I didn't have the chance to tell my sister at the time but she would later accept me when I came out again like 2 years ago.

Anyway I flunked out of school because of the stress and isolation and soon after stopped talking to my friend group, I didn't tell them about being trans until much later too, it was just like cut contact. After that I was living with my parents for about 5 years, did the whole monk thing got into very good shape work 40 hours a week doing manual labor eat eggs and oat meal every day.

So I was the kind of person to be into hypnosis even before I found out I was trans and like any hobby I did it for awhile before taking a break, basically I've been a hypno enjoyer sense I was a teen. When I figured out I was trans I was not practicing hypno at all but when I started having free time at my parents house again I started listening mostly at night just before I was about to sleep. Nothing really out there mostly just files to center the mind with no real suggestions, maybe like a out there file to experience something new every once in awhile.

Then at some point I remembered hearing something about Bambi, I'd like to note here that I have memories of listening to the files before they were originally published by Bambi Prime. I did a search and found them, started listening to them and joined the community centered around the Bambi files. I talked to a lot of different people and slowly stopped repping over the next 3 years. I took some time to myself for about 2 years to be alone and trooned out over the last 2 years with some close friends I made sense I left the community (mostly). (1/2)

>>44942197
There was a lot of emotional ups and down during my time in the community and I'm not going to place blame on anyone as it's ancient history now. But I'd also like to add even though my time in the community was bitter sweet when I left, I'm eternally grateful to the trans women there who pulled me into their circle and let me be with them. I learned what being trans really means by being there and I've been able to avoid a lot of the emotional bullshit that comes along with being trans because of when I learned through my observations. They've given me the strength to be who I am now along with the ability to guide others out of being reppers.
thank you, some troon (2/2)

>>44942195
Happy to help :D

I've come to learn I'm coming at transition really backwards compared to most. Like my primary driver was/is body dysphoria. The mental aspect and the social aspects are the parts I am adapting to.

>>44942197
>>44942269

Thanks love I am loving it i will reply more fully to this and the other Nona who asked about my experience later.

waow

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>>44941904

>People start hypno because they're reppers and don't want to go to talk to a therapist and feel like they're too scared to act feminine. And the fact is its not fear its a combo of rational self interest and doubt, a mind that has been trained to think; rather than feel.

I kind of agree, I still use sissy hypno even though i've been full time already for years and have a bf.

doing it pre trans can definitely keep you in a state of using it as a release valve and repmaxxing but doing it post trans can also mess with your feminine development.

I think a lot of transgirls go through the part of their life where they become extremely cognizant of how they look/act/dress as women and how people interact with those changes.

that's kind of the gendering/misgendering game. If i do x then people gender me y social feedback loop. that can go on for years to the point that even after you have beaten that game, you have this constant self monitoring that just wont leave you alone.

Not just that, that self monitering actively inhbits your ability to practice/exist as a true feminine person because you're too in your head and you care more about how you look vs just being a woman and letting your feminine intuition/tastes develop.

that's where sissy hypno becomes another crutch, sissy hypno stops that self monitoring because even though you're already a passing transgirl, you're still playing the optics game instead of existing in your true feminity, sissy hypno lets you just exist, that permission.

imo sometimes being trans feels like trading one jail for another jail, except that in one you're a man and the other you're the example of the most normie girl a person can concieve.

honestly thats some form of ptsd that needs real therapy and abusing sissy hypno just keeps you there, but it does work like a release valve because the sissy feels like a more free version than even the girl versoin of you but maybe i'm just stupid

>>44941474
I feel like spending all day doing one thing inside while consuming drugs for months will cause mental damage in general.

>>44942916
ear buds are a thing, no reason to not take it with you while you get stuff done

>>44943043
I would definitely not want to be listening in public, I'd probably get hit by a car or something

>>44941694
truth nuke

hypno is literally just audio files, its the power of suggestion sure, but its not going to implant anything because thats ridiculous.

>>44943182
why not?
words can change how you think can't they?
even the cia was using binaural beats and hypnosis very seriously in the 80s

Oh a Bambi thread!! Please be up by the time I finish work

>>44944232
kinda feels like the end of the thread, I'm just going to sleep now

>>44944322
Damn, can't believe I missed this
I always find bambis to be utterly fascinating, I really want to know one and observe how the hypnosis affects them

>>44940200
Can you please share these files with me? I started girlmoding 5 years ago, I boymoded for 7 before that, I still feel hypermasculine. It's unbearable. I can get an amazing haircut, wear a face full of makeup and put on my best clothes and I still feel like an ince despite not being gendered male for so many years. I'm willing to do anything to undo my male conditioning now. I just want to enjoy my post trans life.

I'm a perma questioner and on hrt for 13 months, idk why maybe I just cant trully accept that I'm trans, didn't have many trans memories and I'm really malebrained, but sometimes I really fear that this bambi shit might have "made" me trans, im genuinely asking is there a chance? I feel better on E, but I get freaked out by boobs and sometimes acting fem or momentarily passing makes me feel bad. I might be true enby, but I just can't take the uncertainty

>>44940136
I read that it does a thing where it actually makes you feel pain and empty and craving and hurt when you're not doing what it wants you to do and a lot of it is based in creating a sensational need because without it you start to really hurt

>>44945103
Just sounds like gender dysphoria when you’re not treating it lmao

>>44939113
They convinced me to start exploring the idea of dating men. Then got into Kei and, like >>44939803 , and I ended up wanting it to be real so badly that I began transition.
Did these things make me a tranny? Idk, nor do I care anymore. It was a bit frightening at first how easily I slipped on this pipeline but ultimately life is short and I like mine more now.

>>44945144
But for my understanding it forces you to have that feeling when you don't even have gender dysphoria and instills that pain in your gut and craving , yearning to stop the pain, to feel better from that overwhelming hurt just for a moment. Theres a desperation to do anything to feel better

>>44945205
I mean, just like almost every forced feminization, if you’re in it that much, you already wanted it. Whether you’re just literally a fetishist or actually trans, the desire to be feminine and suck cock was always there.

Bump :3

ts is so retarded but for everyone talking about kei, you can find their old files on 4shared. they go by "kei light" now so you can find the new ones with that on the same site
>t. unfortunate knower

>>44945239
Bambi is made By a mk Ultra program And it's used on people who are unwilling, unknowing, And didn't want it. The original Bambi tapes are subliminal in layered under white noise

>>44939113
I'm really curious what would happen if someone who really doesn't believe in hypnosis and is not a tranny would react after listening to it for a longer while. It might be my repper brain thinking that, it IS possible to make someone trans with this thing and I just have no solid evidence.

>>44945905
Find some that you can't actually make out the audio or mix it in a couple tracks and send it to your ex. Tell him you were thinking of him and these audio tracks helped your anxiety and you want him to listen to help with his. Flirt with him so he is enticed to do it for you.

>>44945584
if youre going out of your way to intentionally listen to sissy hypno thats on you nigga aint anyone tricking you thats the phone ringing inside. cope harder.

>>44945451
OMG THANK YOU NONA

>>44945943
Huh? I said nothing about listening to it or wanting to do that at all. This is just what the wiki said

go visit likera if you're actually interested in hypno

>>44946071
ur welcome ig
>>44946272
this

>>44945905
It's like what F1nn said, you see yourself dressed like a girl for long enough and it fucks with your head

>>44946482
who's f1nn

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>how bad are the Bambi files
almost as bad as the epstein files

>>44939113
Are any of these male voiced? The female voice makes me cringe

>>44946782
Kino is the robot voice

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>>44939113
hearing people talk about it in hushed whispers as if it's actually real and then actually listening to a clip and its just goofy TTS over and over was hilarious
like if you really need Microsoft Sam to give you a permission structure to wear a skirt then all the more power to you but its objectively silly as hell

>>44942137
incredible

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>>44943200
The MKUltra Files were destroyed because the project was an unmitigated failure, embarrassment and waste of money change my mind

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>>44942154
>>44947141
ty hypnosis people

Bruh these kei files mid asf niggas were really losing their minds over ts

>>44947361
to be affected by hypnosis one must already give it a certain authoritative weight from their own pov so it makes sense that they overestimate how "dangerous" this fetish is lol

>>44939113
>"hypnosis"
>look inside
>tts/ai voice
Yep, it's bullshit. Hypnosis is already teetering on the edge of pseudoscience but you sure as shit can't be hypnotized by a screen and a robot voice coming out of headphones.

I know hypno stuff is useful for people who are trying to figure out their own gender shit but I dunno girl, if you're at the point where you're listening to a robot tell you how much you wanna wear skirts and suck cock I think you've already figured yourself out lmao

>>44947469
>I know hypno stuff is useful for people who are trying to figure out their own gender shit but I dunno girl, if you're at the point where you're listening to a robot tell you how much you wanna wear skirts and suck cock I think you've already figured yourself out lmao
You know at the time I never put that together. It was just this transgressive thing I was doing

>>44947493
I suppose if you're young enough to not really know what's going on in your brain it might be more helpful but also I'm still not sure how I feel about young'uns having easy access to stuff like sissy hypno. Definitely not cool with kids listening to it, teenagers are probably fine (I don't actually know how explicit bambi is I haven't listened to much of it)

Also might be useful for repressive people who are deep in the blackpill but people like that should definitely seek healthier outlets than fetishistic feminization hypnosis...

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>>44939113
If I was feminine enough to look cute in whoreish clothes, I'd totally become addicted to these files and fuck up my life, so in a way, I'm glad I'm a repper instead.

>>44946368
np, i've always been too scared to actually listen to hypno but for some reason i place immense importance on them, so having kei's legendary digital mindrape virus on safe and sound on my server makes me super happy :D
i hope one day I work up the courage to poison my own soul with this shit but until then I'm content to collect legendary agp artefacts

i have a (passoid post srs) friend who's super into sissy hypno, maybe i'll give them to her

>>44947714
>Also might be useful for repressive people who are deep in the blackpill but people like that should definitely seek healthier outlets than fetishistic feminization hypnosis...
This was me, I grew up well before trans acceptance, and fully internalized PUA/Manosphere bullshit to rep. I absolutely refused to let myself think, feel, or do anything feminine out of fear it would corrode my repression.
Hypno gave me a small glimpse beyond that I turned into a transition

>>44948011
>i have a (passoid post srs) friend who's super into sissy hypno, maybe i'll give them to her
why would you keep doing that after getting srs?

>>44948035
she's a self identified female sissy
listen we both have severe autism okay??

>>44948030
> but people like that should definitely seek healthier outlets than fetishistic feminization hypnosis...
like?

i'm >>44944885

>>44948051
sorry if I came across as judgy, im actually fascinated because I can see myself doing that


all the times kei says 'feel your pussy' has had me imagining what it would be like to do a session when I actually have a pussy

>>44948064
idk? I was providing a counterpoint that hypnosis actually did the trick for me, no healthier alternatives needed

>>44948066
honestly that's one of the reasons why i'm scared to listen to these files

i'm pre srs and my genital dysphoria isn't that bad, it mostly just annoys me because i have to tuck, everything else bothered me way

i'm worried that genital focused hypnosis is going to give me bottom dysphoria, when my friend got srs i began to feel really jealous and self loathing for a while but I managed to ignore it by thinking about dilation and recovery

sissy hypno to be an acardemic

https://vocaroo.com/16q2eDJgYMlr

>>44948116
dumb chilean

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>>44948064
>like?
I dunno, it kinda depends on the kinda person you are. Based on that post I'd say therapy, quitting 4Chan and other hyper negative online spaces like it, maybe stop watching porn if you have a problem with that.

About to say some shit that's a faux pas on here but it sounds like you're being hurt by this place and its toxic "passoid vs hon" culture. It might be time to just let go of this hellhole and work on yourself without passively absorbing the rampant regressive negativity this place radiates 24/7. 4Chan is not a good place for people who want to enjoy their life.

>>44948093
I'm pre op too and all my friends getting passes is driving my dysphoria absolutely wild.

After it is done tho... I am going to want to push my limits and explore

>>44939113
Its a meme. Or for the incredibly stupid.
I tried getting into it at the peak of my gooning addiction and it does nothing. If anything I found it funny, it trying to confidently tell me to do whatever.

I have the ability to see the truth in the world, see through people. Being high minded, it does nothing.
Im sure if you are a legit bugbrain normie its possible it could work. But for people like me and literally anyone with at LEAST an inner monolog, it does nothing.

>>44948147
i hardly browse 4chan nowadays, like this is seriously the first time that I spent an evening browsing it in months, I mostly just spend my time working nowadays and occasionally seeing my only friend
thanks for the advice, but I feel like my issues are deeper and harder to solve than just quitting 4chan, therapy has never helped either

>>44948220
>I have the ability to see the truth in the world, see through people. Being high minded, it does nothing.
> Im sure if you are a legit bugbrain normie its possible it could work. But for people like me and literally anyone with at LEAST an inner monolog, it does nothing.
I'm probably smarter than you and intentionally trance to make it work. You have a skill issue your are mistaking for superiority. Learn to consciously put yourself into a flow state or trance then try it

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>>44948030
Glad it worked for you, then! The human mind is a pretty complex thing and I'm not trying to claim that there's one universal fix. Also not a therapist and mostly just talkin shit lmao.

All in all I think most people will inevitably find their truth, my worry with the fetishistic stuff is that predatory people exist and a lot of trans people, especially ones who repress, are quite hurt and confused, and by extension easily preyed upon. Obviously I don't need to tell you to be careful since you seem to be doing pretty well but as someone who has fallen into an abusive relationship over this stuff I wish I could find a way to tell as many people as possible to watch themselves.

Sorry I'm rambling

>>44948247
I'd say it's time to find more friends but I'm guessing work gets in the way of that. Unfortunately living in capitalism can make you unhappy by way of it being inherently time consuming, exhausting and depending on the job pointless. Regardless I hope you find some way to get better, nona <3

>>44948319
thank you, i hope i get better too :(

>i have a (passoid post srs) friend who's super into sissy hypno

extremely based

So here's a question I have for the people who are really into erotic hypnosis. Is it possible to precondition your brain with other hypnosis files that give you safeguards, like putting in triggers to kind of give you agency over being uncomfortable with a trigger or whatever. Because the biggest complaint about poor Faith hypnosis is that it erodes consent and usually is used by abusers in order to commit rape basically.

I personally have been listening to erotic hypnosis of one kind or another for the majority of my life but I've never really gotten into it enough to where I'm listening to it all the time. it's usually just like one file every once in awhile, and I've never really felt a lot of like the strong need to go back to a file or ever been in a position where I really forgot what had been said during any file that I've ever listened to including the Bambi sleep stuff. I think maybe once I properly fell asleep to a file and didn't remember anything but I'm going to call that a fluke.

I don't know it's just strange I can feel myself drop and go really deep and all that but I've never been in a position where I get done with a file and go "well, I have no idea what that did to me, or what my triggers are."

I can experience hands-free orgasms and all that kind of stuff, and even when I was listening to the Bambi sleep files I ended up having the triggers roll through my head quite a bit but it faded. Honestly after a better part of a decade of dabbling here and there I still feel the jury is out on how potent erotic hypnosis really is and I feel like a lot of its hype is the community of people enjoying it hyping it up because you got to feel that it's real in order for it to be real.

>>44948741
Furthermore in my experience I've been able to wake up many a times during hypnosis when I didn't really like the direction of the file. Anywhere from it being painfully dull to engaging in fetishes that I have little to no interest in. Then again I've done herotic hypnosis with my girlfriend with me as the hypnotist just writing up hypno scripts and reading them to instant and very strong success. Can it really be as simple as a question of how strong someone's will really is? Like weaker-willed people will genuinely be more affected by hypnosis while strong-willed people have a hard time letting go even if they can get all the way down to the bottom of a strong trance? Once again the jury is out and I feel like everybody's mileage may vary.

I want this to work but I end up just thinking its so silly.

>>44944885
>Can you please share these files with me?
not them, but here's a bunch of the demon girl files
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GxTVP2xKuMaKrscIORElEV4lAYl3-PBi
there's a lot more of kei's stuff out there but it's hard to find

>>44945584
>The original Bambi tapes are subliminal in layered under white noise
is this actually confirmed?
most bambi files have a double vocal track, the main track being what your conscious mind hears and understands, and the quieter track being what your conscious mind doesn't understand in the moment, but your subconscious learns from. Is there a third quieter vocal track?

>>44947294
actually that was the gateway process, which used binaurals to induce a state of transcendental meditation for the purpose of remote viewing.
Remote viewing doesn't work, but binaurals do induce brain hemisphere synchronization which seems to empower meditative / hypnotic states.