Why do you guys use 4chan? I ask this as a cis bi guy (not a lot of room to shit on you.) but why is 4chan and 4chan lingo accepted among the LGTBQ community? It feels like among cis and straight people they normally accept that 4chan is vile even if you aren’t using it for nerfarious purposes. But among queer people I recognize a pattern in which crazy amounts of queer people use it casually and talk about the struggles of being queer so freely. Like it would be one thing if this site there wasn’t people using racist or hell queer/transphobic langeuge. And yet queer people so casually use it. My favorite queer artist (she has done fat fetish adjacent art and has made me feel seen.) has mentioned 4chan lingo and it dissapointed me like crazy, this shouldn’t be something you are proud about and yet people still will openly talk about it, more then normies. Like, I just wanna hear you out, why talk about queer problems and existence on the homophobia the site.
>>44942011>why talk about queer problems and existence on the homophobia the site.Because it wasnt the homophobia site before the 2016 US election and everywhere else is still worseBesides, i dont give a fuck if people hate me. They already hated me unconditionally before i was born, and i know better than to pursue a policy of appeasement
>>44942011>moral scoldingI wasted enough of my life feeling guilty about saying wrong thing and now i just dont care + I chopped my dick off and have no fear.
>>44942011Its just a fucking message board. Its not inherently homophobic or racist. Stop judging us and fuck off
>>44942011Polarising things and the ability to be comfortable exposing yourself to such things while still remaining solid in your beliefs is a good excersize. I think it's imporant to make sure you do not end up surrounded by people who agree with you, you don't grow without some amount of strife to grow against.When you are here you can get somewhat legitimate opinions from those who disagree with you because they are allowed to exist without being erased from society.Speaking of which, while I consider myself pretty woke n all that, seeing if someone is comfortable looking into things even just a little bit more than dismissive common concensus leads them to be is a huge reassurance.Authoritarianism and out right fascistic behavior can present itself just as easily in left wing circles as it can right.If someone sees you use a word, say, passoid, or whatever, and they don't immediately react with a desire to say "Hey!! That's offensive!!, you can't say that!", they're probably safer than someone who would cut you out of friend groups for that.I know it's homophobia the site, if you're going to help people grow out of homophobic tendencies, you should teach them that queers are cool, not that they're not welcome, otherwise they just make communities without you and get worse.
>>44942049See that’s fair. I never used it before 2016, only used it in 2020. >>44942078See that’s the thing. I can tell it’s mainly white people using this because it’s the same trans white people who care more about homo and transphobia then racism and xenophobia. Like they care more when someone is being phobic twoards them but you ask them anything about someone racist in the community or using bad lingo and they act ignorant, our struggles aren’t the same, and that because they like other queer people it resolves it. Like it’s one thing to grapple with your gender or sexuality but people then act stupid when it comes to grappling with racism.
>>44942112>I can tell it’s mainly white peopleI see more brown trans women on this website than i do on twitter and reddit lol.Anyways, please stop trying to demonize us and generalize us
>>44942011supportive people are so fake why would i want to talk to them
>>44942108I should also bring up that, this place is often the only place accepting of people who truly struggle with horrifically BAD dysphoria. These people should be in therapy, but therapy is inaccessible, and that does not mean they deserve to be alone. Almost all of the vitriol and hate here (at least from trans women) is stemmed from anxiety and self loathing, coupled with the influx of racist people in the past decade, they've learned to adopt the lingo of the only people who really consider them friends. It is __HARD__ to get out of a situation like this, and I'd rather associate with 'problematic people' for the sake of actually maybe helping the most marginalized of us, than ostracize them and feel good about myself for a percieved social benifit
>>44942112You're scolding me about being white?I literally have never typed a slur on the internet in my life. I always argue strongly against all forms of racism, misogyny, transphobia, in all my threads and replies from when I started on /b/ at age 12 to today at age 34.So fuck off bro like wtf is this beta male shit if someone's wrong just explain using facts why, stop trying to tattle and get the authorities involved
>>44942133See I’m not trying to demonize you and generlize you. It’s just white queers on Twitter be defending racism like crazy. I know they don’t speak for all of them but it’s just a sad pattern I notice in white people on Twitter. Like I feel like all white and white passing people can be ignorant but they refuse to ignore it. Also where the proof bruh u could just be a white fucking person behind the screen
>>44942266>I’ve never said a slur>how dare you accuse me of doing anything you fucking narc. >fuck off with this beta male shitSee ts my point. Do yall actually care or are you pretending to be woke.
>>44942451Twitter is genuinely worse than 4chan and I am being so genuine when I say that.Also, while I am not defending the two you're responding to, do consider that you literally wandered in here and started accusing people of things.As a twitter user you of all people should know people hate being accused of things.Believe it or not being policed kinda sucks
>>44942460I'm not "woke" you fag F. Scott Fitzgerald said and I quote "the test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function."Stop looking for the right person to obey, there is no winning teams. Everyone a political ideology and a nation of her own, guarded by an army of one!
>>44942011>cis biDon't care, stopped reading, fuck off sad desperate mentally ill straggot, you're not in any position to preach anyone, especially about queer problems or homophobia that you know nothing about and will always over support at every opportunity, die andeat glass
>>44942011Different people (and not-real-people) use this board for different reasons, and it's usually pretty obvious after three words into their sentences. It's not hard to skim past threads to find what you're looking for.
>>44942011i was on 4chan before i trooned out and now that i am trooning this place is familiar and comforting to meit lets me talk about trans issues with complete anonymity and it allows me to vent my horrific self loathing and dysphoria without being coddled and hugboxed over itplus we have genuine fun and friendships here like the skribblio threadsand art of /tttt/ stuff like boymoderchan and glegles is really fucking fun
if you're still checking this thread op, and if you ever gave a shit to actually have a constructive conversation in the first place (you have not responded to us once), I genuinely suggest you read this article and try to approach this site from an analytical perspective. https://ngansuril.substack.com/p/attack-of-the-sneeds
>>44942696Why are y’all being so offended. I come here for a convo and everyone gets their tails in a twist. Like straight up if you have nothing to hide why be so offended. Like im cis and I feel like dont understand everything aboht being trans and im trying to educate myself. It feels like with white people they are so okay to be ignorant and use being queer as a shield. I’m not accusing you from beyond a screen I’m just letting you know what I notice from white queer people on twitter. I will read it>>44942486This is a good example. That fucking butch Simon Hanselmann loves to talk about cancel culture ruining people’s lives and has had black face, antisemitism, and ignorant opinions. Like they don’t acknowledge their own shitty behaviorAlso on an unrelated not, a pilot they are producing got leaked. The person who worked on common side effects helped worked on it
>>44942696I read this article. And I’m sitting on it but it’s frustrating me and leading to my point. The author ignores the racism that happens on this site. I am interested by the point that chronically online people who become trans stay in this place because it’s the only thing they know. The author talks about how the word started because of the OG joke sneed. I get it, what confuses me is when talking about modders and trans people. It feels like the author conviently ignores the negative history this site has over what the site has done for queer people. To me it’s especially sad because let’s face itThe epstien files have released little by little. Moot was paid by mossad, was at the parties, and Jeffery Epstein himself said that he wanted to create discourse with queer people to get attention off himself. It feels like people don’t careTo me the article point is that people find community here among the shit and recognize themselves in others and the vile shit. But the article and website itself (every reply here.) is ignoring the bad history and behavior this site has. I’ve seen multiple creepy lgtbq posts of incest, assault, subtle transphobia. It just makes me sad. If I hadn’t noticed so much negativity I wouldn’t care or maybe even post more often. However I instantly see vile vile shit.
