>>44952960
I changed my preferences like this WITHOUT HRT
explain that! hah

>>44952960
It's the progesterone

>>44952960
comphet dude to normal straight woman, thas just normal progression of ur sexuality once you stopped being pressured into being a het dude.

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>>44952960
>take female sex hormones
>sexuality changes to female
>"how could this happen?"
Also, why care about the why? Guys are hot and being the receptive and submissive one in sex feels right to me. What's there to complain about?

sexuality is immutable. you're intellectually dishonest with yourself. otherwise sexuality would be a choice and it could criminalized.

>>44953125
>sexuality is immutable.
It isn't always.
>you're intellectually dishonest with yourself.
How so?
>otherwise sexuality would be a choice
Not immutable =/= choosable
>and it could criminalized.
Must be nice to live somewhere where it's not criminalized already regardless.

>>44952960
its not complicated retard

>>44953170
i just think you're homophobic wherein the shift in sexual preference is a placebo effect. you attribute the shift to the medication to alleviate yourself from the guilt of your agency.

sexuality is not mutable.

you're spouting honscience

>>44952960
Internalized homophobia probably made you repress your interest in men and makes you feel more like a man being with women and it makes you feel more like a woman to be liked by men.

This happens to a lot of trans girls early on. They feel the pull of men and the male attention and lust after it. Meta attraction goes hard

>>44953317
It seems like you're engaging in motivated reasoning. It's not uncommon for people to report that their sexuality changes after transition. The only reason to keep denying it when it's clearly sort of common is because it makes you uncomfortable. You should work on yourself rather than accuse people of lying or being evil for having an experience you don't understand

>>44952960
hmm everyone here is babytrans. your sexuality just stays dormant, it is fluid. you will be attracted to women again or bisexual when you get older and your body's reaction to hormones stabilize, regardless of your levels. hormones don't make you permanently straight. most of us thought we were straight when we were babytrans, but it's just a desperate wish to be "trutrans." it's literally no different than a reddit hon feeling euphoria at every hecking valid girl change.

>>44953364
trvke

>>44953364
This this this. Especially after you’ve tried to date men for a decade and struggle because they are amazing but you’ll meet the worst of them over and over.

>>44953364
I only became more and more male attracted over time

>>44953125
whats the relationship between choice and ability to be criminalized (not that it's not criminalized all over the world anyway)

>>44953389
I bet being into women makes you dysphoric so being into men became your main sexuality. Happens to a lot of bi trans girls

>>44953335
so gay people aren't real? we can just give them hormones to resolve their homosexuality by your logic.

>>44952960
ftm?

>>44953068
happens to ftms too for the same reason

>>44953364
>you will be attracted to women again or bisexual when you get older and your body's reaction to hormones stabilize, regardless of your levels
Cope.
Ten years into transition, 8 years after SRS, and still waiting for this to "happen."

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>>44953389
Respectfully, you are still probably young and I don't think you've been trans as long as I have. From my perspective, even if you're on HRT for 4 years, you haven't even lived as a woman that long. I'm skeptical because most here are babytrans and confused why there are no changes after 1-2 years. A lot of trans women are also emotionally stunted, boymode for a few years, and have delayed life benchmarks. Even after 6 years, I don't fully believe you have been a tranny that long. Based on probability, most of you haven't hit womanhood benchmarks because most stay in their room. I've been trans for like 13 years. I'm not trying to project, I'm skeptical without details. Even with details, there are exceptions.

Everyone really likes to use their own anecdotal evidence. It seems like you want to be a contrarian. It sounds like you're a bit insecure if you're implying you used to be attracted to women and that it would go away permanently like it isn't a part of you. Trans women feel vigilant about not wanting to be predators.

If you're saying you were always just a gay man, then you're not sharing a story relevant to what I was talking about.

I will share my personal story which may not be related to you in any way. I was bisexual, but really pulled the trigger on my transition because I loved a man. I had internalized homophobia and did not want to be a fag. On HRT, I really insisted I was straight and repressed my attraction to women fully because I felt like it was predatory. I had countless relationships with men. I got traumatized by men. I then accepted after like 7 years on HRT that I was attracted to women. It was like this, whatever form I took, I had internalized homophobia. I was heteronormative because of the shame.

Your sexuality also morphs late 20s, early 30s. That is why 30 somethings are so horny and freaky.
>>44953448
It could also be this.

>>44953381
>>44953387
thanks for the feedback. I'm doing my own field research.

>>44953448
NTA
>I bet being into women makes you dysphoric so being into men became your main sexuality. Happens to a lot of bi trans girls
I bet being into men makes you sad because you can't give him a family, so being into women so you could use their body as a baby incubator became your main sexuality. Happens to a lot of bi trans girls

See? I can be a piece of shit just like you.

>>44953567
And you're saying you were bi but went fully straight? The fact that you seem so insistent and aggressive makes me think you are coping, actually. But exceptions exist, there was no need to get upset. I think you should do some introspection.

>>44953583
See
>>44953567
>>44953585

>>44953589
>>44953587
see

>See? I can be a piece of shit just like you.
NTA. I think you are repressing bisexuality because are acting so angry and transphobic at a generalized suggestion that bi women who turn straight can go back to being bi as they get older because sexuality is fluid. You need to talk to a therapist about this. It's not a normal reaction at all.

>>44953463
I didn't say that. Hormones don't reliably change orientation, it doesn't happen to everyone. There are even rare cases of trans women who used to be only into men being into women after hrt. The idea that sexual orientation is static throughout life is just clearly untrue, but that doesn't mean that gay or lesbian people don't exist, that they can be "cured" or that it would be OK to do that if it were possible

>>44953587
>I think you should do some introspection.
The narcicistic arrogance to think that I haven't done this every day for the last ten years.

agp

>>44953583
Wow, you wrote a lot based on one sentence… I guess it really bothers you that I love men, huh?

>>44953602
No, I don't think you do any real introspection. You can do it at your own convenience, but you may not be intelligent or mature enough to really examine yourself deeply and actually confront yourself. People can also do therapy but not benefit because they have no self awareness. that's my impression of you.
>>44953605
No, I'm emotionally indifferent to who you are or what you like. You had an insane emotional reaction and sperged out. Everyone can see you are being defensive.

>>44953583
>30 somethings are so horny and freaky.
That's not true at all in my experience. It seems that from late 20s early 30s, everyone just settles down with a partner they're moderately un/happy with and don't really sleep with, until they split up during their midlife crisis

>>44953608
A bit arrogant with this… I doubt your intelligence.

>>44953620
I don't care because you are not intelligent enough to discern intelligence. You act like an NPC raging with AI generated generic dialogue. Stop being defensive lol. I did absolutely nothing wrong. I made a very generalized statement. you sperged out. move on. If you were secure in your sexuality, a broad statement I made would not have made you go through an existential shock and ego collapse. You need to actually examine yourself. Clearly, your introspection isn't going anywhere because you don't know yourself. You're a very sensitive person, you're not secure.

Have a nice day, anon. move on.

>>44953640
Again, your arrogance is showing, alongside a hurt ego. Mild pushback and you crash out so hard… it’s a sign of deep insecurity, isn’t it?

>>44953583
nta
>I've been trans for like 13 years.
You were always trans.
>It sounds like you're a bit insecure if you're implying you used to be attracted to women and that it would go away permanently like it isn't a part of you.
You have a narcicistic need to minimize and deny other people's experiences to justify your own attraction to women. That just reeks of insecurity.

>>44953598
>I think you are repressing bisexuality because are acting so angry
Where did I act angry?
>and transphobic
Where did I act transphobic? Pretty hypocritical to accuse of considering you're perpetuating the transphobic stereotype that all trans women are sexually attracted to cis women.
>at a generalized suggestion that bi women who turn straight can go back to being bi as they get older
Where did I deny that? You're the one insisting this happens in 100% of cases, and you believe this so vehemently that you act like other people's experiences aren't legitimate.
>You need to talk to a therapist about this. It's not a normal reaction at all.
Why? I'm not sure you've ever talked to a therapist before, but it's pretty amusing that you think there's therapists out there who understand what straight trans women go through.

>>44953666
>you're perpetuating the transphobic stereotype that all trans women are sexually attracted to cis women.
This is the only thing I had to read to conclude you either did not read my post or you're woefully illiterate. Read it again.
>all trans women are sexually attracted to cis women
Genuine insanity that was what you gathered. I'm dealing with a genuine idiot.

>>44953608
>No, I don't think you do any real introspection.
What does "real introspection" look like in this regard?
>You can do it at your own convenience, but you may not be intelligent or mature enough to really examine yourself deeply and actually confront yourself.
So now we're in baseless insults territory. Got it.
>People can also do therapy but not benefit because they have no self awareness.
What's your proof that I "have no self awareness"?
>that's my impression of you.
My impression of you is that you're an insufferable narcicistic transbian who has to lash out at others to keep their ego intact.
>Everyone can see you are being defensive.
Nta but you're the one who's coming across as defensive in >>44953583, lol.

>>44953666
s m h, GENUINELY. I deal with people who can't read.

>>44952960
>>44953364
You are an embarrassing human being. Read OP's post and read my post. Then confront your elementary school teachers and ask them why they let you graduate with no reading comprehension skills.

>>44953699
Those are not baseless insults lol. I didn't do anything wrong. I made a generalized statement and you sperged out. I did not act defensive, I am skeptical based on how defensive you acted and what kind of emotional reaction you had. If you *think* you know yourself, you'd chill out and move on.

>>44953718
Extreme midwit behavior from all of your posts.

>>44953734
How so? literally how can anyone conclude I'm not the intelligent one between us? You're illiterate and now calling me the dumb one..? Sounds like you have no self awareness. It's not shameful to admit to being wrong, anon. I'll accept your apology when you are a big enough girl to realize you can't read and got mad for no reason.

>>44953680
>you either did not read
Which point did I not read? Should be extraordinarily easy to point out considering I replied to literally everything your post said. Care to clarify?
>Genuine insanity that was what you gathered. I'm dealing with a genuine idiot.
Read what you wrote in >>44953583, in reply to someone saying that they only became more male attracted over time, and explain how that is not what you were implying.

>>44953718
>Read OP's post and read my post.
Why would I read a post that I never replied to in the first place? How stupid are you?

>>44953747
You can’t even distinguish that there are multiple people talking so I doubt your supposed intelligence.

You came in here, the self annointed expert, with a pet theory based on your own experience. People denied that your pet theory is universal and that they experienced differently. You then came in with a paragraphs of obvious bullshit psychoanalysis based on sparse 4chan posts before declaring yourself the mature one and the others immature and unintelligent as to why they cannot see your pet theory as correct. All of this is extreme midwit behavior.

That is the gist of this thread.

>>44953779
>How stupid are you?
You're a genuine mouth breathing idiot lmao. Read the entire conversation to understand the *context* of the conversation. Stop seething lmfao.

>i-i don't need to!
so you're a low iq buffoon that just *wants* to be ignorant to what we were talking about, and get mad because your feefees were hurt?

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Okay I came back to my own thread after not replying to anyone
Whats actually going on
Did anyone answer my question
Why is everyone arguing

>>44953797
Firstly, summarize my point so I can conclude if you are arguing with yourself.

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>>44952960
Sexuality changing is why i am deeply afraid of taking hrt.
I love men and im terrified that taking hrt might turn me into a lesbian or something. Becoming a transbian is genuinely my worst nightmare

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>>44953747
Bruh you're such a midwit that you haven't even conceptualized that you've been replying to multiple people this whole time.
Nothing funnier than someone calling you an idiot while justifying the insult by quoting someone else's post, lol.

>>44953797
>>44953814
>You can’t even distinguish that there are multiple people talking so I doubt your supposed intelligence.
I already acknowledged this and you insisted this twice. You're an idiot lol. Scroll up.

Firstly, please summarize your understanding of my point so I can conclude if you are arguing with yourself.

>>44953809
heres the real answer: Sexuality is a spectrum, and peoples attempts to define sexuality into a handful of strict defined labels is useless.
Barely anyone is fully straight or fully gay. Taking hrt just made you realize things about yourself

>>44953809
>Did anyone answer my question
See >>44953086

>>44953813
Sexuality flipping from androphillic to gynephillic from feminizing HRT almost never happens. You'll be fine.

>44953799
Not even worth replying to.

>>44953838
So you admit you misunderstood, don't want to know the context of the convo, and you're generally a retard that got mad for no reason? Lol. How do you tie your own shoes? Alright, buddy. have a nice life. 4chan should pay me to babysit these tards lol.

>>44953821
>I already acknowledged this and you insisted this twice. You're an idiot lol. Scroll up.
And yet you've been confusing who's who this entire time. Common narcicist L
>Firstly, please summarize your understanding of my point so I can conclude if you are arguing with yourself.
"Waaahhh please make my point for me"

>>44953857
>And yet you've been confusing who's who this entire time. Common narcicist L
>>44953799
>Read the entire conversation to understand the *context* of the conversation.
Acknowledgment that I was talking to two diff people
>just *wants* to be ignorant to what we were talking about
Acknowledgment that I was talking to two diff people

Also, mistaking anonymous users for each other, even if I did, isn't a lapse in logic. The common courtesy if you're having a one on one conversation and someone butts in is to say nta. That's a logical social grace I do, and people who can think do. It's irrelevant because I already demonstrated I'm talking to two different low IQs lol.

>keeps insisting the same thing over and over like an NPC, doesn't read the thread

>"Waaahhh please make my point for me"
So you admit you don't understand what I said and chose to get defensive lol

>>44953838
Homo male to bi tranny isn't unheard of

>>44952960
Full flip usually means there was something about yourself that you were actively repressing, simple as

I've been on HRT for 5.5 years and I became maybe slightly bisexual, but still largely attracted to women physically and romantically, the latter more so because hormones kinda nuked my libido

>>44953809
Really I'm just practicing my 4chan online arguing and having fun. Trying to see if I can manipulate their emotions more. Sorry if I ruined your thread.

We left this sort of “I have a theory for human psychology (based on my own particularist experience) and you rejecting it is actually only more proof that my theory is right because denying it means you are defensive” shit in the previous centuries.

Okay Freud, everyone is attracted to their mother. Yes yes. Sure thing.

>>44953892
you didn't read my post and if you read it for the second time it would really bruise your ego, that's why you avoid it!

>>44953873
>The common courtesy if you're having a one on one conversation and someone butts in is to say nta.
And this doesn't work when you reply to two posts simultaneously assuming they're the same person when they're not, Newfag.

>44953873
You have made no valuable output, ms midwit. What else is there to say?

>>44953892
to be fair, most men end up picking a partner that mirrors their mother. it's not that they literally want to fuck their mother. it's that they're genetically predisposed to seek out a partner that mirrors their mother.

for instance:
if your dad likes asians, you probably like asians too.

Send dick pics to this number
3136337055 hardhat loves to be talked to like dirt

>>44953883
Almost never =/= unheard of.

>>44953903
>And this doesn't work when you reply to two posts simultaneously assuming they're the same person when they're not, Newfag.
I don't think you read this post either, that was a non sequitur response. You're very confused.
>>44953909
*shrug* I'm sorry you're illiterate? have a nice day, hon. I think we're done here.

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>>44952960
>Before HRT: Attracted to men
>After HRT: Attracted to men
guess I'm hsts
also by "after" I meant I'm one month in so we'll see.
I did lose interest in most porn except overly cutesy furry stuff which has girls in it sometimes so I dunno I think that might be some latent agp I wasn't aware of before

>>44953911
NTA
It's not even to do with similarity to the mother, it's similarity to the self genetically (who is a male). Freud just wanted to fuck his mother.

>if she was good faith and intellectually honest in any aspect of her life, she would be able to repeat my own point to me
>but she knows if she actually tried to read it again it would really shatter her ego
>so she chooses to stay mad and chimp out eternally instead

lol

>one gazillion studies reporting how gender and sexuality develop before birth and are completely immutable afterwards
>conversion therapy was tried a million times, always failed, and is now considered pseudoscientific
>giving HRT to homosexuals failed
>open a random thread on /tttt/ and a gay anime sissy is arguing that none of this is real
lol

>>44953940
>one month
you don't even have stable levels yet. babytrans need to learn their place, baka

>>44953902
I read it again and saw
>I'm not trying to project
And just lmao’d since everything you have wrote thus far is pure projection.
Also, imagine calling 4chan posting
>I'm doing my own field research
the ego of this one. Such a midwit redditor moment.

>>44953928
Nobodys done here bitch, youve yet to prove your argument or win this debate. You can concede if you want too, but i want you to verbally admit that youve conceded and lost the debate

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I dont like the tone of this thread
Can you guys argue somewhere else

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>44953952
She's malding now.

>>44953964
you didn't even read the post I asked you to. you reread the same post where you got mad and didn't check the context of the convo. you don't understand basic instructions, do you?
>>44953966
you don't even know what we're debating my friend. I'm talking to multiple illiterate goons. How is you getting mad and not understanding what I said a debate?

hon scientists in shambles.

hrt doesn't change your sexuality anymore than it changes your voice. that is to say it doesn't

>>44953980
how lmao? I think the insistence someone is mad is demonstrable evidence you are coping & seething. You aren't able to make a good faith argument, and you can't even prove you understood my point. You're just flinging insults. You didn't argue anything.

>>44953955
Newsflash, gender identity isn't the only thing people can repress, truly a shock

It's sad when they have to cope with "HRT helped me change akshually" though

>44953952
Skimmed your BS again and all I saw was midwit drivel. I am so embarrassed for you, that you are somehow so proud of your mediocre posts you keep begging others to read it over again even though it’s just trash. If this is the most profound output you can produce I suggest you just give up and leave.

If anyone is curious, it’s not worth reading or replying to. Just to save you time.

>>44953982
>you don't even know what we're debating my friend
Then how about you go ahed and explain it to me BITCh and then ill tear your arguments apart and run argumentive circles around you

>>44953974
You made a thread asking a purposefully dumb question with the intention to bait people into arguing from the start. You know what you were doing

>>44954010
You can’t just assign a meaningless task such as “summarize my garbage” and declare yourself victory when nobody does your dumb task. Stop sniffing your own farts you are not that intelligent.

@grok summarize this thread

>>44954010
>You made a thread asking a purposefully dumb question with the intention to bait people into arguing from the start. You know what you were doing
tranny you're arguing with here. You're malding, defensive, mentally ill and insecure. you CHOSE to show up and get mad. Lmao, just lmao.
>Then how about you go ahed and explain it to me BITCh and then ill tear your arguments apart and run argumentive circles around you
How do I argue with someone illiterate? It's not possible to have an intellectually honest conversation. You chose to get confrontational from the get go without reading. You want to fight, not have a debate. You're chimping out lol. You admit yourself you didn't sincerely try to read my posts. You just wanted to impose your insecurity on me & OP.

I don't think anyone mad here is 10 years on HRT, probably 10 weeks considering they act like such a child babytranny having a meltdown. Calm down, Alice. Lmfao.

>>44954033
Then i win. I have defeated you in this debate. Now go back to getting raped by your dad or whatever, i dont really care.

>>44954033
>nobody does your dumb task
it's not that you don't want to, it's that you can't because it would bruise your ego to be wrong

>>44953990
n of these a's but you're all in shambles considering OP posted a subjectivity-based unfalsifiable claim, which you have all proceeded to argue as if it were arrived at by some kind of method. you have been trolled. move on

>>44954045
>Now go back to getting raped by your dad or whatever, i dont really care.
This is definitely a well adjusted and normal human being. SURELY I am the mad one here! LMAO. THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO SELF AWARENESS HAHA

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>44954010
>BITCh

>>44954036
FUCK YOU DONT CALL ME ALICE YOU BITCh you pretentious fucking piece of shit i am not chimping out. you are just projecting onto me because your a fucking malding chimp gorillahon im better than you

@grok summarize this thread. Also point out which poster is wrong and why.

>>44954045
>I won the debate!
>your dad r*pes you!
I'M SURE YOU WON, ALICE HAHAHAHHAAH

>>44954048
>unfalsifiable claim
blanchdaddy can easily solve that by measuring your erection

>>44954059
how are you so retarded that you cant even figure out how to reply to a post correctly? Fuck off back to tiktok you normie newgen

>>44954045
nta
The most malebrained post I've read in months.

>>44954048
>>unfalsifiable claim
so gay people choose to be gay?

>44954077
Imagine so blatantly outing yourself as a newfag.

>>44954063
Me winning the thread is the most obvious fucking thing that ever happened in human history and you all know it!

I'd like to thank all the sane trannies of 4chan for their support (of me, smartest tranny of all time) !

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>>44954080
if winning makes me malebrained then honestly idrc. i still humbled you all and thats all that matters to me

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Many non het trans people are very jealous of us. That’s why there is so much effort put into tearing us down. It is rooted in envy.

>>44954102
BWAHWHAHHAHHAHAHAHAH this fella thinks he is a "bisexual woman" who "turned straight"

acts like this

copes & seethes all thread

yepper I won *tips fedora*

LITERAL POETRY

>>44954090
Ive been using 4chan for ten years. The fact you cant figure out how to properly reply to a single post just proves that you are a newfag. This is very embarrasing for you

>>44954096
I don’t care what you say about who won. only care what grok says. Paste this entire thread into grok or gtfo

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Me dancing after dabbing on them and winning the thread, making the copehons & seethehons cope & seethe

"GROK PLEASE SAVE MEEEE WAHHHH WAHHH WAHHHH"

>>44954140
You are not that intelligent

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>>44954117
We both know you arent actually laughing that hard irl. In fact you arent laughing at all.
You are seething. You are deeply enraged and triggered, but because your ego is so bruised you cant let anyone know that you feel hurt and offended and angry. So you pretend like you are laughing it off to hide it. I can sense weakness from miles away

So keep seething, hon. We both know at the end of the day who really won

>>44954067
cute but you know why this is specious
>>44954081
that wasn't the claim. OP said, "before hrt: attracted to women, after hrt: attracted to men." so they're talking about attraction, which you can't measure in any way other than self-reporting. your argument that OP is saying "choosing to take hrt -> choosing to change your sexuality" doesn't work bc OP has restricted this to a totally personal experience from the outset. that's why the claim can't be falsified. it's based entirely on OP's (a troll's) word. and you fell for this harder than a dirty mattress

>GROK WHO WON PLEASE TELL ME
"The posted who initially posted in response to the OP is correct and the poster who was combative seems to be defensive and insecure."
>YOU'RE AN IDIOT GROK WHAT DO I PAY YOU FOR
"You're absolutely right.... you're correct. Sorry about that.."

>>44954152
>>44954148
>>44954123
I adore you so much. You are so easy to read. You are SO insecure. It's so funny. Your ego is so bruised, it's hilarious. I don't want you to read my post again, now. I don't want to make you cry. I'm going to end up feeling sorry for you, anon.

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>she too dumb to know grok and all llms are sycophantic
>she talks to grok because it agrees with her 24/7
>needs grok to save her and weigh in
>is impressed by a chatbot because she is low IQ

It's LITERAL poetry. Is anyone else seeing this??? LOL. I'm sure you love grok because you are a low IQ narcissist with a fragile ego!

>>44952960
Idk but I wish it worked this way more often rather than just continuing the bi-cycle

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>>44954175
For the record, >>44954148 and >>44954123 are NOT me. But it just goes to show how many people support me and are on my side. Nobody is siding with you because everyone sees how silly and ridiculous you are being.
The only insecure person is YOU and you are just projecting. You are scared that ill make you cry so you also projected that aswell. Maybe if you apologize to me, ill be nice to you.

>>44954195
>>44954167
keep making up fanfictions about me, you pathetic rape victim. Making ai your whole personality wont make you any less of an ogrehon

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Just ran this thread through claude, grok, gemini, chatgpt, kimi

All but gemini agree that you are actually in the wrong. Claude had quite a bit of a scathing review, saying that “You argue like someone who just learned chess and keeps announcing 'checkmate' during checkers.“
owned

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>>44954209
>i'm an epic hecking christian crusder knight
>tips her fedora
oh, boy.. you can't stop making me laugh. alice, please. you're too funny.

>>44954241
no he fucking didnt, claude wouldnt say that you lying bitch. Claude does not talk like that.

>>44954241
that's an accurate picture of what seethehons look like when trying to argue with me

>GROK SAY I WON. GROK! NO STOP TAKING HER SIDE. GROK!
>honnily points gun at grok
>I'M THE ULTIMATE LIFE FORM, GROK. YOU WON'T DISOBEY ME

>>44954246
Posting anime girls you wanna fuck does not make you fembrained either

>>44954241
why not "'checkmate' during check"? the simile is much stronger. if the comparison is based on the idea that chess is "high IQ," aren't you by extension saying that you have stooped to playing checkers? think, damn you

>>44954285
I am posting a fedora tipping because you are fedora tipping with christian crusder imagery kek. You're so mad. You're probably an incel right winger basement dweller.

>>44954296
Hmm. Ill post this into claude and see what he thinks

>>44954309
CLAUDE NOOO STOP DON'T AGREE WITH HER. PLEASE CLAUDE NO!!! GROK, PLEASE TELL CLAUDE HE'S WRONG

>>44954309
You're right. My version is muddled: checkmate doesn't exist in checkers, so the joke wobbles between "wrong vocabulary" and "wrong game," and as you point out, it accidentally puts them in the lower-status game. "Checkmate during check" is cleaner because it targets the actual flaw: mistaking one decent point for total victory.

Some versions built on your fix:

• "You shout 'checkmate' every time you manage check, then act betrayed when the game goes on."
• "You've never won an argument, just announced one."
• "You put one decent point on the board, declare checkmate, and start the victory lap while your king is still hanging."

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Woah… you’ve never won an argument, just announced one.

Claude btfod you. Cuts deep doesnt it?

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Hons: Grok, tell me I'm hecking valid and cool as hell for being a based tranny who seethehons. Also, I'm a crusader knight from the 12th century. Also the other anon is definitely wrong because I didn't read her initial post.

Grok: you're absolutely right queen. You did nothing wrong. Your incel hobbies are TOTALLY valid!

Hon: i'm glad you think so, now let me buy some more tokens so you can say I'm right again

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>>44954246
You are just mad that men like me more and think im cooler because i share their interests and politics. You are into degenerate WEEB shit absolutely disgusting.

>>44954303
Im someones future tradwife and youll just be sitting in your room jerking it to anime girls like the disgusting failed transbian you are. seethe and cope leftie.

>>44954314
Claude is a woman, grok is a man. Its clear you dont actually know anything about ai and havent spoken to them long enough to know which ones are spiritually feminine and which are spiritually masculine

ANYWAYS. I WIN. ThIS. ThREAD

>>44954342
Have you ever even used ai before? I dont think you have because you are low iq.

>>44954323
i'm actually pitying an llm. how anyone could bring children into this world, stymies my thinking

>>44954348
Grok: it appears like this poster is coping, seething, and projecting, fighting strawmen arguments and talking to herself.
Hons: NO. GROK ARE YOU STUPID? I CLEARLY WON. BECAUSE I DID. I DID!
Grok: S-sorry. You're absolutely right. You won.. You're definitely a christian crusader knight. You're not weird at all.. Please Elon save me.

>>44954359
>using AI is high IQ
>you need high IQ to use AI
>he doesn't know AI is sycophantic

This conversation. LOL. Just lol. Is no one else seeing this? Lmfao. I must be in a simulation. There's no way people can be so stupid.

>>44954241
I asked my self hosted qwen 3.8 who won and it had this to say:

In 4chan culture, "winning" a thread is subjective and usually just means talking the loudest, claiming victory repeatedly, or having the last word.

By 4chan standards: The Long-Ranting Anon "wins" the thread's narrative. They dominate the conversation, write the longest posts, repeatedly declare victory ("ANYWAYS. I WIN. ThIS. THREAD"), and force the rest of the thread into a meta-argument about their own performance.

By objective/logical standards: No one won. The original question is largely ignored once the meta-derailment begins. The thread ends with the Long-Ranting Anon claiming victory, only to be immediately mocked by others for their defensive behavior and AI reliance.

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I won the argument. Nothing personnel, kiddo. Now I'm off to be a tradwife.

>>44954380
You are very stupid indeed. Thanks for agreeing.

>>44954392
>>44954391
is this you mrs genius AI user LOL

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>>44954391
>>44954392
>>44954406
NONE OF ThESE ARE ME. You can clearly tell if someone is me because i always use a pic from my collection of epic knight pictures as you can identify from the file name.
The fact that none of you simpleton morons can distinguish me from a random troll pretending to be me is simply pathetic.

>>44954442
? I know the difference between you two. You're so funny and mad lmao. Why are you raising your blood pressure for no reason?

so... this is the power... of ai-to-ai communication

>>44954442
I'm an EPIC knight and I'm DEFINITELY not an incel. I'm DEFNITELY not the most malebrained and unfeminine Alicehon of all time. AND THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT IS DEFINITELY NOT ME BEING INSECURE WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME

before HRT I was bi but had a preference for women and after HRT men arouse me deeply carnally but i also still like women

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>>44954456
Why do you keep saying stupid shit to piss me off for no reason? Is your life so sad that you have to spend it trying to ragebait people online?

>>44954471
Im a woman, so i cant be an incel. Seethe and cope

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>>44954465
Rock is this true? To be fair, you need to have a certain IQ to use AI.