dumb fuck retarded boymoders think there's only 3 discrete states a tranny can appear in: boymoding, honmoding and passing in reality, how you come across to the general public is more of a spectrum, and you can absolutely "pass" as male while still looking a genderfxck abomination that makes everyone feel uncomfortablenobody is going to see a boymoders>clear estrogenised skin>fat soft legs>budding breast tissue>subtly girly aesthetics (e.g. girls jeans, hair ties, docs) >long hair and ignore them like they're a regular dude. Nope, they're going to notice how fucking odd they are and hyper focus on how PATHETIC they look instead, without any of the usual kindness that one might reserve for a women, or any of the politeness they'd reserve for a hon. Speaking of which, the general public atleast understands hons and are not too surprised when they see one. But, creepy autists with untrained man voices who smell like autistic femcels and dress like shit (boymoders)? That's going to be a disturbing memory that the average cissoid will be haunted by days afterwards, even if they can't put 2 and 2 together.Boymoding for 6 years is one of my biggest regrets, I cannot believe I did something so fucking embarrassing for so long whilst thinking that I was actually being smart and stealthy instead. Best case scenario is that you get clocked, worst case scenario is that people treat you with the same contempt they'd reserve for incels and other low value men. Just fucking bite the bullet and transition you insecure fucks.
I guess it sounds right... People stopped interacting with me ever since I started trooning and boymoding. I do feel like if by avoiding being a woman I went from being likeable guy to creepy incel instead.
Eh, most people treat me normally tho, some men are even polite
yeah I mean there was like one time that people were weird to me because of the boymoding and it was just because I was wearing a work uniform that made my boobs really obvious
a guy said "what's up, brotha" to me last week. i've been on hrt 7+ years. i think you're just a luckshit
>>44962786>I do feel like if by avoiding being a woman I went from being likeable guy to creepy incel instead.correct, in general, people's people matching abilities far exceed their ability to articulate their intuition. The whole world can tell that there's not something right about you, and it disturbs them. Uncanny valley 101>>44962801Boymode for long enough and you forget what normal is like >>44962809he's making fun out of you, you stupid fucking cunt
>>44962813sir why are you so aggressive sir
>>44962721Have you considered that you are just creepy op?
>>44962813>he's making fun out of you, you stupid fucking cunthe apologized to me when i ignored him
>>44962813I've always been weird looking, a genderfuck abomination like you said.
>>44962721What about cis men on HRT?I use E to kill my AGP libido, which I hate and which disgusts me, and to decrease my dysphoria from hair growth in all the wrong places, and from possible further masculinization (I'm early 20s).I don't see myself as a woman, don't need to be perceived as one, and am fine with being perceived as a guy.But I need HRT, because staying on T drives me crazy.What should I do in this situation?Should I maybe try to anamaxx and go to the gym to lower my body fat percentage, making female fat distribution less of an issue?Or maybe always leave a bit of a beard stubble (even though I hate it) to make it easier for others to perceive me as male?
>>44962721>dress like shit (boymoders)i dress very well actually, to the point where i often get unsolicited compliments on my outfits and ability to put them together :) having a bit of gyno and long hair doesn't hurt anyone, honmoding inadvertently harms other trans women through optics nukes. i will not be that villain!
>>44963017>honmoding inadvertently harms other trans women through optics nukes. i will not be that villain!Unsure if you are serious but this, I wasted too many opportunities and let too much time pass, I feel undeserving of presenting female, transwomen are precious and I wouldn't dare taint their beauty.
>>44962721you just didn't do it right. i come off pretty well as a guy until i have to have a conversation with someone
>>44962721truke
>>44962953you should simply accept that you are non-binary and then do what you want from there without overly fixating on which gender you are perceived as.
>>44963426But I am not non-binary.I am a cis man, who injects a chemical everyweek to make the bad thoughts and urges go away.Being perceived as anything other than male is a very unfortunate and entirely unintended side-effect of this medical treatment.And as with all side effects, I'd like to avoid it as much as possible.
>>44962721Good thing I'm just an ugly manmoder and not a boymoder then.
>>44963017>>44963211>honmoding inadvertently harms other trans women through optics nukes. i will not be that villain!You'd actually do a world of good for our optics by being a cute twinkhon you stupid fuck, average person thinks of maamhon when they think of trannies>>44962953you're a coping tranny who think she looks like a man whilst wearing female fat distribution you're also considering developing an eating disorder to cope with body insecuritiesfucking pathetic >>449635080 iq retard you will remember my warning one day, and you will not feel good about your actions.
>>44963525Again, I am not trans. I am more in the Bryon Noem category of deranged men, and simply see HRT as a means to an end to keep body dismorphia and libido at bay, and because it gives me a peace of mind I am unable to attain on T.And yet, I continue to identify as a man. As a disabled one in need of medication, maybe. But as a man.
>>44963525>you will remember my warning one day, and you will not feel good about your actions.I regret everything I've ever done in my life but at least for now people just think I'm way younger than I am.
>>44962721>creepy autists with untrained man voicesyeah this is the main problem. if you at least have a fagcent or something no one will care and theyll just see you as a fem fag, maybe even in a positive light. the aggressively straight nerdy autist man voice + visible fem features is what creeps people out. billions must voice train, this goes for girlmoders too btw t. fag/boymoded for years
>>44962721no people see me as metrosexual if anything. most trans people would be happier and more approachable as a twinkhon, i agree. it's just you don't come off as creepy if you actually hide your transition correctly
why the honrage saar
>>44962721>you can absolutely "pass" as male while still looking a genderfxck abomination that makes everyone feel uncomfortable This is still boymoding. >and ignore them like they're a regular dude. Nope, they're going to notice how fucking odd they are and hyper focus on how PATHETIC they look instead, without any of the usual kindness that one might reserve for a women, or any of the politeness they'd reserve for a hon. It's gayboymoding. Sissymoding, if you will.>Speaking of which, the general public atleast understands hons and are not too surprised when they see one. But, creepy autists with untrained man voices who smell like autistic femcels and dress like shit (boymoders)? That's going to be a disturbing memory that the average cissoid will be haunted by days afterwards, even if they can't put 2 and 2 together. >Lol. They'll just think you're a gross fag.>Boymoding for 6 years is one of my biggest regrets, I cannot believe I did something so fucking embarrassing for so long whilst thinking that I was actually being smart and stealthy instead. Best case scenario is that you get clocked, worst case scenario is that people treat you with the same contempt they'd reserve for incels and other low value men. Just fucking bite the bullet and transition you insecure fucks.I boymoded so much I'm actually just a man now. I got lucky. I'm not going to become a woman just for more Chinese white-collar effeminate social credit points. Lol. Fuck the globohomo.I've been boymoding for 4 years now, 3 if you don't count when I decided I'm a man again. The AGP is 100% just a fetish and does not constitute the rest of my life. It's just like how women gooners jerk off to rapist vampire mafia daddies but don't actually want that in real life.
I'm manmoding because>I am too tall and have a too masculine face>I can't just honmode because I live in a country that isn't accepting of troons>I can't just move due to various reasonsand I also just don't want to honmode. I will get FFS before I even attempt to honmode.
>>44962721when i see boymoders it's really obvious they are girls then i just wonder why they aren't wearing a cute dress
>>44962721You don't have to explain this to me. I'm aware that this is the reason I keep catching people staring at me lately. But I also have always found society's tendency to cling to clear, discreet categories kinda of pathetic. So I guess my feeling is oh boohoo, you have to deal with a little ambiguity, tough shit. Not my job to assuage their weak brains.
>>44965974More women should really wear ties
>>44962721this is a psyop. nobody wants to see my ugly mug in a dress
>>44962809If you only get clocked once a week then you basically pass>>44962721I boymode because it's easier, 'nuff said
>>44962721ouchhh my self esteem took CRITICAL damage
I feel like other people my age treat me weird but old ppl especially women treat me kindly and baby me
>>44962721People are mostly nice to me ig. I had a couple cis women compliment my hair at a bar a couple days ago.
>>44962721get filtered faggott. boymoder who doesnt have a skill issue
>>44962721wheres his cock
>>44962721The real lesson here is to train your voice to be more androgynous when boymoding. Appearing to be a somewhat androgynous guy beats the hell out of appearing to be a tranny. Also, don’t wear women’s jeans, that’s stupid.
being a boymoder in 2026 is the equivalent of being a jew during the holocaust. this thread is broot on foenem
I simply don't care to be more feminine or gender-conforming
>>44968598i like your little snail
>>44967806this isn't boymode you fucking retardare you literally mentally disabled or something? 70 iq? >>44967875good>>44967939>>44968506that's a symptom of exactly what I describing, exact same happened to meyou're not being treated like women, you're being treated like these agender playthings. You have zero social status rn>>44968598You are disgusting to 99.9% of the population. How does that make you feel?>>44968779he's a frog>>44969068just become a girlmoder