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all "trans" people are faketrans, even and especially the hsts/straight trans
you are just MALE crossdressers there are none of you with an actual female appearance
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>>44968917
would chuds accept passoid hsts trannies if we said we're just reallllllly feminine males that use she/her and bottom? thought yall loved the roman empire
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>>44968965
I would accept if you stopped pretending there are men who magically look like women. If this were irl I would just point out their male features and be done with it, it's quite a silly game to play online and with just carefully selected photos.

All trans women look like men.
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>>44968974
i mean its mostly medicine and surgery that makes them look like women, but you can call it magic if it helps.
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>>44968985
they don't look like women
EVER
(irl)
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>>44968917
stfu
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>>44969126
>it's quite a silly game to play online and with just carefully selected photos.
it's quite a silly game to play online and with just carefully selected photos.
it's quite a silly game to play online and with just carefully selected photos.
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>>44968993
(You)
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>>44969234
ever think its weird trannies never try to prove passoids still pass even next to real women and at unflattering angles, only the same glamor shots over and over?
I mean if this were such a common, well-proven phenomenon, there would be nothing to hide, right?
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>>44969244
>foids never try to take flattering pics
psycho
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>>44969273
this doesn't read male in either picture, you are totally dodging my point
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>>44969129
yeah man it’s just angles. don’t forget to cope & seethe
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>>44969274
k. so there’s no masculine features in these either yeah? also, explain the ones in >>44969277 other than the non-existent scenario where you’d ever inspect someone’s genitals.
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>>44969286
some masculine features in a woman ≠ looks male in real life, people wouldn't encouter this people and talk to them and assume they were born male

trans women have hundreds and thousands of tiny little male range features, that, in combination, in real life, lets your brain know they are male

masculine women existing is not proof men can become women
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>>44969290
yeah man there’s just hundreds of masculine features you could so tell instinctively. That’s why people have “never” been surprised when they learn someone is trans after the fact.

You also dodged identifying the “masculinity” in >>44969277 chud
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>>44969290
Sex is a dimmer, not a switch.
In the womb, the same tissues are sculpted by hormones into male or female forms ("homologous structures"). Hormone therapy flips those same switches: trans women on estrogen grow breasts like any woman's; trans men on testosterone even develop some prostate tissue.

Chromosomes don't define sex: roughly two-thirds of cis women carry Y-chromosome DNA in their brains and organs from past pregnancies, yet nobody calls them male. Gamete-based definitions crumble with IVG, which can turn skin cells into sperm or eggs.

Sex is a spectrum, and hormone therapy moves a person along it. Transition isn't a rejection of biology: it's a medically guided navigation of the grey area where male and female traits overlap.
Citations.
Hormone therapy changes gene expression toward the affirmed sex:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspx

Male/female tissue production:
https://archive.is/UUwHt
https://archive.is/tYB8f

Anyone's skin cells can be turned into either sperm or eggs (IVG):
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/27/1177191913/sperm-or-egg-in-lab-breakthrough-in-reproduction-designer-babies-ivg

Basic anatomy: male/female sex organs "homologous structures" already alike in the womb, and change with hormones. Likewise, postnatal hormones change how they are.
https://uen.pressbooks.pub/anatomyphysiology2/chapter/homologous-structures-in-the-male-female/
https://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/meded/grossanatomy/pelvis/homology.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_related_male_and_female_reproductive_organs

Most cisgender women carry Y chromosomes in their bodies:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/
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>>44969301
in person it becomes obvious someone is trans after 30 seconds to a minute or so, its not instant, especially if they have had surgeries, but you can eventually tell if you see them moving and around other people

that's why photos of people alone don't tell you as much, context provides important information
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>>44968917

I mean, faketrans dosent mean fake woman. Like, in effect it does, but it dosent correlate to your actual gender.

Yes, bla bla bla, we are all men in skirts or wtv, we get it. Most of us aren’t trying to assert that by being extra gay men we loop around to being women.

Fake/tru trans just revolves around how much a person has a right or reason to transition.

I really do hope one day I can cross the gap and find what is missing for me to actually fit in as a woman. Maybe you are right and it’s just not possible.

>>44968974
This is dumb tho, you come off as someone who dosent speak to people very often. Do you usually speak on people’s features unprompted? Would it suit you better if I wore a sign around my neck that read ‚I have an extra wide ribcage and browbone!‘?
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>>44969317
I've seen trannies irl, and at first they may pass, but if you keep looking, you will notice the birth sex features, they are still there.
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>>44969309
>it’s obvious
>it can’t be described exactly other than comparing
yeah that’s why there’s “never” a news story about cissies being surprised about someone’s trans status. Delusional
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>>44969322
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>>44969305
I always think these arguments are a bit silly. Yes, there are many claims as to why the gap between genders is greatly leased through HRT and why it isn’t as absolute as many people say, but it’s also just not really the point. Like, we know exactly what is meant when people talk on this subject. It’s dumb to sidestep a very painful reality with factoids that soften the blow.
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>>44969322
That may very often be the case, but my point wasn’t that we all pass, just that it’s weird to go up to someone and comment on those features?

Also, looking like a man dosent make one a man and being a man dosent make one look like a man.
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>>44969332
the evidence is always anglefraud and text in favor of passing being real, which is lol
trannies just totally logically bypass my point that real passing would be possible with context clues, bad lighting etc.
it wouldn't just be these filtered close up bedroom poses
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>>44969383
yup they will just not engage with you
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