> You see, this character is actually so manly and male that it was testosterone that gave him boobs. Can't wait for this character to fade to obscurity.
>>44971333god forbid hrt femboys receive any amount of representation, i guess
>1 year hrttits>actually this is a cisgender malerapeboyflation is crazy
>>44971344It would take away from non hrt femboys please understand they have no representation
>>44971400good
I dont understand how you could call this thing a man
>>44971442The author said he's male, therefore I will not use any critical thinking skills
>>44971477Why do you fucking hate gnc men so much and erase all forms of representation of us? I already feel alone enough and cut myself every single fucking day and you just want to make our lvies more miserable for no fucking reason
>>44971400>non hrt "femboys"Ick. Go big or go home. Flat chest equals twink, if you're cding, you're a cding twink.
>>44971496Its crazy I can't tell if this is serious or not
Giving trap characters big nipples/flat out small boobs has been a thing for a long time and it has nothing to do with HRT femboys or transgenders or gyno it is purely just something for to japs jack off toFor some reason no one has a problem with anime traps with ginormous child bearing hips that no male would ever have but this is an issue for some reason
>>44971519Need more hrtfemboys in the world
>>44971541I am. Im in an extremely awful mental state right now so i guess its my fault for deciding to browse 4chan while in this state in the first place, but still
>>44971610I don't think GNC men in anime or Manga are ever going to be erased? That's like all it is, there's basically ONLY GNC representation for fem males. You're being ridiculous
>>44971558the only "issue" anyone has is a) pretending this happens without HRT b) pretending that these things have nothing to do whatsoever with transgenderism and if you call an otokonoko an obvious tranny ever you're le erasing people (even though lying and say there is no such thing as a trans girl who is an otknk is the actual erasing people thing to do).
>>44971638Most gnc men in anime are either just fetish trap shit, or they are given some kind of arc where they either stop being feminine, or they become women. Theres barely any actual decent representation. Plus it seems like most of the people in this thread hate my kind and want me erased
>>44971694We don't hate your kind, we're just trans and tired of getting characters that are definitely trans and then the creator and fans are like "No it's just a man, stop self-inserting".
>>44971684Yeah the real issue is pretending that otknk are 1:1 femboys. Pretty ridiculous how its erasure if a character is called trans but its okay to call every single one a cis femboy.
>>44971694But the character in question is literally fetish trap shit? Why would you get upset over him. There's also plenty of non-fetishized femboy representation across media, maybe you just dont look for it?
>>44971721I dont know who the character in the thread even is or what anime he is from. If he is just more trap fetish bullshit then i retract my statements about him.>There's also plenty of non-fetishized femboy representation across mediaI can only really think of five at best
>>44971333bruhhh my ex boyfriend said this about me
>>44971711they want to live in fantasy land where the concept of gender dysphoria is a delusion of the last 10 years of America instead of like a condition people have and always will be dealing with which manifests differently depending on culture. in this sense it is wholly rediculous to say a subgroup from their based nipon could be more complicated than just something to jerk off to and actually have people within it who are the same thing as the shit they spend all day getting angry abt at behest of media apparatuses.
>>44971610lmao
>>44971333look at this discourse for 2 seconds and tell me anime fans are not the most disgusting and subhuman group of "people"
thats not gyno those are full on tranny boobs lol
>>44971711>>44971753We should learn lessons from Japan instead of applying our labels to their culture. Not stuff like OP because it's just fetish cartoons that aren't serious. But for actual trans people, they had a strict but enforced pathway to legal gender change since 2003. They have transition for minors, though not many do it because it has to be paid out of pocket and requires parental consent and history of behavior. That's pretty remarkable for a conservative east asian country in my view. I think our discourse in the US is regressive in comparison, outside of a few blue states.
>>44971827I actually went to see what gyno really looks like and lmfao I can't believe they think gyno looks like this. Insane cope
>>44971753It genuinely just comes down to LGBT hate and that for most right wing people femboys are the lesser evil (and they are more easily fetishized). If trans people ceased to exist femboys would be the next group. In Japan otknk are just the existing fetishized less hated group. Obama, and other variants are the hated group.
>>44971914Okama not Obama
Sadly can't look any close to this because my ribcage is bigger than a 6'6 or taller regular male while being 5'3
>>44971857whatever point you're making is moot since terf bullshit was imported to japan in the last few yrs and now they have ppl in a tizzy abt "omg what if a previously penised individual is in my public bath!!!" simply put they were just as capable as anyone else into being whipped up into a frenzy about this and their original social acceptance of the concept of sex transition was predicated on thinking of it as a way to keep people in check to begin with, which is an extension of their terribly restrictive culture I don't want to emulate.
>>44971914just so you know otokonoko is a subculture which includes transgender girls as well as anyone else who presently feminine as a male for any other reason. otokonoko and trans are not two opposing distinct things, they are complementary terms. not all otknk are or will be trans but lots of trans girls in japan are part of otknk groups and communities, and the delusion that they are entirely seperate is simply a western-born lie in order to settle the cognitive dissonance of hating trannies but wanting to fuck them.
>>44971954I know i just meant its easier for bigoted people in Japan to say all otokonoko are femboys since the meaning is broad. They can exclude trans people from how they perceive the archetype.
>>44971954You know perfectly well when people said they hate trannies they are referring to hons
>>44971779otaku lolifag otokonoko lesbians will inherit the earth
>>44972114nta but absolutely not, I hang out with anti-trans people online (though much less so since I stopped repping) and those fuckers just hate ALL trannies period. Even ones who want to fuck them shit on them and dehumanize them. Also a ton of 'femboy' fetishists lose their absolute fucking shit if they find out she's actually trans, or even if the so-called femboy is just on HRT. I've seen people talk about how someone is so attractive and how much they like them etc. only to find out they're on HRT or use female pronouns and IMMEDIATELY switch to calling her an ugly disgusting freak and ranting about hating them. These people are insane.
>>44972114>>44972167 is right. I've had ex friends that hate trannies message me to fuck because I'm passing and cute and will still tell me I'm not a woman and deadname me all the time. Some of them regularly try to dox trannies or find ways to ruin them. They don't care if you pass or not. They just hate trannies
>>44971927All true but,>their original social acceptance of the concept of sex transition was predicated on thinking of it as a way to keep people in check to begin withis already better than half the US and much of Europe. The odd thing is that almost double as many Japanese approve of trans healthcare for teens than letting them have access to single-sex facilities.
>>44972277Wtf I was taught Sweden was the progressive's dream