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you cannot opt into an oppressed class as an oppressor. females have been brutally mistreated for all of human history by males. a male cannot simply take hormones and then say “wahhh i’m a woman now!! but i’m ackshually a heccin special woman because i’m 6’4 and have a penis so i’m more oppressed than cis women and they’re MY oppressor!!!” you’re in a cage of your own making. you chose to transition while knowing the consequences and then pretended like every normal person saying you’re not a woman is some kind of bigotry (and the highest form of bigotry at that.) you did this to yourself. you can detransition at any time and go back to having full male privilege, women don’t have that choice. you will never be a woman, you will always be a disgusting, misogynistic, mentally ill man that chose to fetishize and larp the lives of those who you oppress. and try as you may, nobody (and i mean nobody, everybody who says they do is just pitying you) actually sees you as a woman.
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so true!
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>>44998501
>women don’t have that choice.
I meaaaan you can just transition and pass and not have to deal with misogyny
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>>44998501
anti woke1 talking points in humongous two six
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>>44998523
shore dude every female should just mutilate their bodies and sterilize themselves to kind of pass as an ugly manlet. i can’t believe you solved the patriarchy
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>>44998523
but they no no wanna,,
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p much every trans exclusionary claim just boils down to
>i think gender dysphoria doesn't exist because i have no theory of mind and don't listen to trannies when they say nondysphorics don't speak for them
and OP (by Cocksuckyus, Devourer of Semen) is a great example
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>I meaaaan you can just transition and pass and not have to deal with misogyny
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>>44998552
i think gender dysphoria exists, but it’s no different than any other delusion. what makes dysphoria any different than any other psychotic break?
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>>44998552
>trannies choose to be the way they are, unlike me, who is dominated by social relations

w ubermenschen!?!?
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>>44998568
tsmt, theres schizophrenics that think they're Jesus
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>>44998568
the treatment
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>>44998539
>every female should just mutilate their bodies
Yes + transition doesn't make you sterilize you can still have a baby
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You can't deny the oppression amabs are forced to suffer at the hands of afabs
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>>44998623
yes i can, see? i’m doing it right now because it’s not real
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>>44998618
trans “men” pretty much have to get a hysterectomy at some point because their uterus will atrophy if on HRT for too long and cause immense pain. even if this doesn’t happen they’ll still have to go off hormones before conception and for the duration of their pregnancy (and postpartum if they want to breastfeed) also no, nobody should be doing this to themselves. especially not healthy mentally well people
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>>44998565
>nate porn
what is that
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Imagine being a foid crying and seething about "le shemales denying their biology" while being retarded rapehole incubators denying their biology as well. Funny
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>>44998568
I sincerely believe "female homosexuality" and "female anti-natalism" should be considered as delusions of the highest severity corrected by plap and pregnancy
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>>44998717
stop, stop! i can only be so right about you
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>>44998674
You don't have to get a hysterectomy silly, just pace yourself with the testosterone and act accordingly
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>>44998739
What is vagina made for? Penis :)
What is an uterus made for? Pregnancy :)
Dykes == schizofrenics
It's true and you know that, which is why you holeyap all day on social media to escape your reality
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>>44998501
and you'll always be a nigger, so silence rape ape
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>>44998770
your seething doesn’t effect me, you’re a mentally ill man who will probably kill himself within the next ten years. i can’t wait until the world is rid of your filth
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>>44998797
Aww is somebody on xeir period today? Seems like it, all that aggression is only a way of nature to encourage your true purpose, remember :)
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>>44998729
huh? but i thought you were a woman? are you saying that there’s a difference between you and me? color me shocked
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>>44998815
>all that aggression
>keeps seething and fantasizing about me getting raped and impregnated because i said he’s not a woman
yes im definitely the aggressor here, sir
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>>44998854
NTA this is the internet you can't really be aggressive here
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>>44998887
tell that to him, not me lol
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>>44998826
>>44998854
Unsurprisingly, female delusions of imagining the other side as what makes it feel raped the most do not work here
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>>44998903
>delusions
reread their replies retard
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>>44998501
You don't "opt in" to dysphoria, retard.
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>>44999011
yet it can be cured by going to therapy for your delusions
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>>44999021
Dysphoria is never "cured"; it's like the autism you clearly have, you just manage it as best you can.
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>>44999031
>>44999021
Idk personally my dysphoria was cured once I got surgery but people hate to hear that
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>>44999040
I doubt it was entirely cured, you're just at the point where it's hard to make you feel dysphoric.
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>>44999031
>using autism as an insult while delusionally believing he’s a woman
throwing stones from a glass house. also yes it can, go be a crossdresser and get fucked in the ass, you’re not a woman and you never will be
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>>44998501
who are you trying to convince? nobody here is going to agree with you
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>>44999049
Yes, it was entirely cured. Like I just said people hate to hear that tho
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>>44999059
i hope to make you feel bad because you’re disgusting and you deserve it
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>>44999051
Yeah I'm sure every single depressed tranny on grindr that got fucked with a skirt on feel totally amazing and not dysphoric at all.
>>44999063
If you think so, that's good, but don't be surprised if something crops up in the future that makes you dysphoric again.
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>>44999077
I don't think so, I know so because it's been 7 years....... But like I said
>people hate to hear that
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>>44999070
well thats... not very nice..
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>>44998501
Bragging about how many victim points you have is extremely fembrained, better cut that bitch shit before you poon out champ
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>>45000322
>extremely fembrained
>before you poon out
?
>bragging about victim points
that’s literally what you fags do all day. you whine and bitch and moan about le heccin evil afab “tme’s” until you go blue in the face. you want to be victims so bad but you’re not and you never will be. you’ve locked yourself in a cage and now you’re crying and pissing yourself to be let out. you’re a mentally ill chud with womb envy and you need to get over yourself
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>>45000608
I am a man and I don't know what tme means
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>>45000646
bullshit term made up by moids who wanna feel special and vxlid and above others for having self inflicted gyno and erectile dysfunction.
>i’m a man
cool, i don’t like you either
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>>44998501
>women ate the oppressed
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hey op i just want to live my life in peace without hurting anyone and without being victimised and discriminated against i hope thats okay with you
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>>44998539
But males are mutilating their bodies and sterilizing themselves and only experiencing various levels of success at passing at all only to claim special oppression points? It seems to me that most males wouldn’t do that unless there was some extenuating circumstance, like a condition that compels them to do that
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>>45000711
i’m actually very liberal on matters of what someone can do with their body. people can do whatever they want to their own bodies even if i dislike it, i think it’s your human right. however it’s jarringly offensive the see someone put on a grotesque costume of womanhood then claim to be some poor mistreated soul because of it. play stupid games, win stupid prizes. you’re not a woman and you never will be. the sooner you accept that the better
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>>45000715
i agree, the condition is mental illness and fetishization of womanhood, especially from what a societal light of what a woman is “supposed” to be like
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>>45000767
what would your response be to a man telling you not wearing a burka as a woman is grotesque and jarringly offensive and its your own fault if you get victimised because of it
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>>45000802
i would tell him to fuck off and die. the difference is a burqa is a tool of oppression against females and it’s not a form of identity or the like. the burqa or lack thereof is not a mockery of any vulnerable class of people, but instead simply an article of clothing with a terrible connotation. a better comparison would be some guy walking around in blackface and getting upset when people don’t like him because of it because he identifies as black. see how retarded that is?
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>>45000837
when i was eight years old, long before i had any cognizant awareness of my dysphoria, a group of my classmates decided i was 'sat like a girl' and then kicked the shit out of me till i threw up and pissed myself

they told the teachers i started it, got believed, so i got sent home and yelled at for not standing up for myself like a man is supposed to then made me shave my head because long hair was for faggots. i didn't know what that word meant

im not sure what idea you have in mind of 'male socialisation' but i assure you that, irrespective of if you think im a 'real' woman or not, i have definitely never been in the social category of 'man' or benefitted from its priviliges. people smell this shit and treat you appropriately
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foids and trannies are in desperate competition for the oppression olympics gold medal
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41% is the new vaccines cause autism cuz both were an absolutely shit and flawed sample size
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>>45000919
that’s a nice story, what does what have to do with anything i said?
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>>44998501
>oppressor
>oppressed
brainrot
there's only one class warfare, and it's social class warfare
the rest is a spook
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>>45002675
As a black tranny I wish that was true
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>>44998501
>females have been brutally mistreated for all of human history by males.
Really? Why aren't you afraid to speak up then? Why aren't you freaks lynched by the patriarchy.
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>>45002713
>Why aren't you afraid to speak up then?
Once a population has endured a certain type of treatment for so long it becomes their baseline thus no longer worried about speaking up (as not speaking up gets them the same result)
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>>45002675
all false dichotomies are brainrot. OP is just another foid who thinks bc she is oppressed she cannot oppress. as if raped people never commit rape themselves
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>>45002724
no it's because you're full of shit. If women were oppressed they'd be quite.

Why aren't you being lynched by the supposed patriarchy?
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>>45002749
>no
How so?
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>>45002749
women and girls are getting raped and murdered by the patriarchy worldwide. and let’s not ignore all the countries where females are seen as second class citizens either, i’m sure even you won’t deny that a woman in afghan is oppressed
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>>45002818
>let’s not ignore all the countries where females are seen as second class citizens either,
Let's actually do that since we are first worlders and thirdie problems have nothing to do with us.
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>>45002818
>b-b-but muh afghanistan!
like clockwork lmao
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>>45002737
explain how trans “women” are oppressed by “cis” women
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>>45002840
no argument award
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>>45002832
okay, just remove that from my argument and then respond
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>>45002843
the same way black men are
>>45002853
from your personal collection? you shouldn't have
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>>45002862
black men are oppressed by all women?
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>>45002857
Excepting the rare Islamic immigrant honor killing, nobody in the first world is raped or murdered by the patriarchy.
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>>45002876
to the extent that the justice system sees them as disposable, enslaveable labor. i thought your argument was that women are systemically oppressed anyway (which doesn't require that they are literally oppressed by all men)
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>>45002887
every single day there’s some new story about another man brutally raping and murdering a woman. what would you call these if not death by the patriarchy? you can’t pin it all on men being stronger so therefore they’re able to commit more murders, women could easily buy guns and kill men at similar rates, but they don’t. why is this?
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>>44998501
just so stupid to assume a trans woman is viewed the same as a cis man before transition OP slit ur wrists and maybe in ur next life youll be reincarnated as a trans woman & maybe you'll get it
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>>44998501
nobody is stealing your foidness from you retard
you are lucky to be cis and born with all the assets your brain expects to be there and not have to risk being beat up or murdered for trying to make your body and mind compatible and coherent rather than staying an empty maladjusted husk that will never get to experience a normal human life
"men" being privileged would be the least of your concerns right now if someone forced you to transition to the opposite sex for your cisoid self to see how horrid dysphoria can be
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>>45002900
i actually believe that pretty much every group has equal legal rights in the west. if you consider the social world “systematic”, then yes i’d say women are oppressed in that way. anyways, can you actually explain why you believe women oppress men who take estrogen?
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>you cannot opt into an oppressed class as an oppressor.
Trivially demonstrable as being false. Proof:
1. Rich people are oppressors and poor people are oppressed
2. If a rich person annihilates all their wealth doing stupid shit, they will become poor
3. a rich person becoming poor is an oppressor becoming oppressed as a result of their own actions
Since this is a counterexample to the general claim, we conclude the general claim is false Q.E.D

sorry to annihilate your whole retarded point, I didn't even bother reading the rest because since the first premise is false what follows warrants no consideration.
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>>45002938
>i actually believe that pretty much every group has equal legal rights in the west
uh, hon, aren't you arguing that you're an oppressed class? lmao
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>>45002945
this entire claim of 'opting in' to an opress class makes No Sense. Do women who realize theyre lesbians 'opt in' to lesbianism?? are we seriously making the arguement that everyone is making the active choice against their subconcious to identify as something? just retarded bigotry bullshit
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>>45002921
you’re mentally ill. you’re not born in the wrong body, you don’t have a female brain. to act like males and females are so naturally and innately dissimilar that their brains are entirely different is an insanely misogynistic idea to begin with. we’re all just humans, nobody is supposed to be anything
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>>44998501
Oh no, the trannies are trying to steal my divine feminine energies! And infiltrate the sacred women's spaces!!
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>>45002954
read the rest of my reply fucktard
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>>45002914
>>every single day there’s some new story about another man brutally raping and murdering a woman. what would you call these if not death by the patriarchy?
Individuals committing crimes for individual reasons not some society norm enforcing conspiracy to keep women down. Indeed these crimes are severely punished and would be more severely punish if not for women voter's soft on crime attitude.
> you can’t pin it all on men being stronger so therefore they’re able to commit more murders,
"What's 2+2 AND DON'T SAY 4"
>women could easily buy guns and kill men at similar rates, but they don’t. why is this?
because the murders women like to commit are legal and because they are weak willed and risk averse. What does any of that have to do with oppression?
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>>45002987
looks like i have to return the "no argument" award
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>>45002945
being rich isn’t innate nor biological. it’s a state of being in our current socioeconomic and political system. being rich itself isn’t technically what makes one an oppressor either, you have to be bourgeoisie (which is about 95% of rich people, to be fair.)
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>>45002997
>Individuals committing crimes for individual reasons
there’s no way you’re this retarded. when the KKK lynches black people is it also for individual reasons? what is the individual reasoning for raping and murdering a woman?
>because the murders women like to commit are legal
you’re talking about abortions, aren’t you? lmao. the only reason you’re against abortion is because you don’t have the ability to be pregnant. if it’s “murder” to snuff out the life of something with no awareness or consciousness whatsoever that nobody wants to take care of anyways then i really don’t care.
>What does any of that have to do with oppression?
“what does oppression have to do with oppression?” durrrr
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>>45003084
>there’s no way you’re this retarded. when the KKK lynches black people is it also for individual reasons?
There's no way YOU're this retarded and can't see the difference.
>what is the individual reasoning for raping and murdering a woman?
1000s different jealousy, sexual gratification, rage. Read the transscripts of every single murder case to find out.
>you’re talking about abortions, aren’t you? lmao. the only reason you’re against abortion is because you don’t have the ability to be pregnant.
That's an assumption because all feminists are extremely selfish. Why does the supposed patriarchy allow abortions btw?
>if it’s “murder” to snuff out the life of something with no awareness or consciousness whatsoever that nobody wants to take care of anyways then i really don’t care.
Yea it shouldn't be considered murder to snuff the life out of a feminist. But it is because we don't live in a patriarchy sadly.
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>>45002737
>foid
>oppressed
pick one and only one
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>>45003023
this says says says and does nothing against the counterexample for the claim
>you cannot opt into an oppressed class as an oppressor.
which is an universal claim and therefore voidable by a single counterexample.
Very cleverly, you now made a different claim restricted in scope
>you cannot opt into an oppressed class that is defined biologically as an oppressor.
Unfortunately, thinking a counterexample to both of this is just as easy as the first:
1. The mentally retarded are oppressed. Mental retardation is biological and can be innate
2. The non mentally retarded can be thought of as oppressors
3. If a non retarded person acts recklessly, they can suffer brain damage (like in a car accident) and become retarded, which is biological
sorry, guess you will have to think harder :/

The entire point you are trying to make is stupid from the beginning, and it will be fucking retarded regardless of how much you try to reduce the scope of the claim. It is retarded beyond belief because it starts with the implicit false assumption that you get oppression just from belonging to a neat little ontological category, as if people in the real world had a magical 6th sense to guess the true nature of everyone around them.
The patriarchy doesn't target and oppressed women because men have magical chromosome sniffing sensors that can categorically identify the true nature of XX defenseless little Females. It goes entirely by appearance: Men look a certain way, women look a different way. People that look like women get the woman treatment. Since it goes entirely by appearance rather than by the magical and abstract platonic category of Femaleness in the world of ideas, a Male that just so happens to look like a woman will get the woman treatment, including patriarchal oppression.
>but you will never be a wombyn
Yes I know you are reasonably upset about how I annihilated your position, but I'm not a tranny. I'm a XY chromosomes male man :)
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>>45003200
she picked foid here >>45002938 so idk why she's still acting like there's an argument to be had
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>>45002982
the nervous system being wired to expect the presence of certain reproductive organs and secondary sexual characteristics≠innate gendered differences in personality and temperament that stem from the brain
hormones are responsible for mild sex specific influence on the brain and its responses, the brain itself isnt sexually dimorphic
not to mention you are literally suggesting that men and women are dissimilar yourself in your previous wordpiles
>women could easily buy guns and kill men at similar rates, but they don't. why?
>>45002914

oh yeah and as for "mental illness", like i said go get a taste of it by going on testosterone and see the crippling dysphoria you'll get before assuming dysphoria is unique to "mentally ill trannies"
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>>44998706
It's sharteen thing.
They probably use the sharty.
This is nate
>arrow cuz i don't look like this.
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Women are not an oppressed class.
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>>44998501
Citations on the congenital, neurological basis of gender identity:

>An overview from New Scientist
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

>An overview from MedScape
https://www.medscape.com/s/viewarticle/840538_3

>Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relevance for gender identity, transsexualism and sexual orientation - D. F. Swaab, Netherlands Institute for Brain Research, Amsterdam
http://postcog.ucd.ie/files/Schwaab.pdf

>A sex difference in the human brain and its relation to transsexuality - Zhou JN, 1995
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7477289/

>White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study
https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/journal-of-psychiatric-research

>Prenatal testosterone and gender-related behaviour - Melissa Hines, Department of Psychology, City University, Northampton Square, London
https://www.biology.utah.edu/carrier/3320/sexual%20diff.%20papers/Prenatal%20testosterone.pdf

>Prenatal and postnatal hormone effects on the human brain and cognition - Bonnie Auyeung, Michael V. Lombardo, & Simon Baron-Cohen, Dept. of Psychiatry, University of Cambridge
https://docs.autismresearchcentre.com/papers/2013_Auyeung_Prenatal%20and%20postnatal%20hormone%20effects_EuJPhysio.pdf

>A spreadsheet with links to many articles about gender identity and the brain.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/htmlview?pli=1#gid=0

>Here are more
http://aebrain.blogspot.com/p/transsexual-and-intersex-gender-identity.html?m=1
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>>44998501
Citations on transition as medically necessary and the only effective treatment for dysphoria, as recognized by every major US and world medical authority:

>The American Psychiatric Association's policy statement regarding the necessity and efficacy of transition as the appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria.
https://www.apa.org/about/policy/chapter-12b#transgender

>More info from the APA
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/programs/transgender/?tab=1

>A resolution from the American Medical Association on the efficacy and necessity of transition as appropriate treatment for gender dysphoria, and call for an end to insurance companies categorically excluding transition-related care from coverage.
https://www.tgender.net/taw/ama_resolutions.pdf

>A similar policy statement from the American College of Physicians
https://www.acpjournals.org/aim/article/2292051/lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-health-disparities-executive-summary-policy-position

>Guidelines from the American Academy of Pediatrics.
http://assets2.hrc.org/files/documents/SupportingCaringforTransChildren.pdf

>Similar resolution from the American Academy of Family Physicians.
https://www.aafp.org/dam/AAFP/documents/about_us/special_constituencies/2012RCAR_Advocacy.pdf

>Here is one from the National Association of Social Workers.
http://www.socialworkers.org/da/da2008/finalvoting/documents/Transgender%202nd%20round%20-%20Clean.pdf

>Treatment guidelines from the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and guidelines from the NHS.
http://www.teni.ie/attachments/14767e01-a8de-4b90-9a19-8c2c50edf4e1.PDF

http://www.wlmht.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Gender-dysphoria-guide-for-GPs-and-other-healthcare-staff.pdf

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-dysphoria/Pages/Treatment.aspx
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>>44998501
Citations on the transition's dramatic reduction of suicide risk while improving mental health and quality of life, with trans people able to transition young and spared abuse and discrimination having mental health and suicide risk on par with the general public:

>Bauer, et al., 2015: Transition vastly reduces risks of suicide attempts, and the farther along in transition someone is the lower that risk gets.
http://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2

>Moody, et al., 2013: The ability to transition, along with family and social acceptance, are the largest factors reducing suicide risk among trans people.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3722435/

>Young Adult Psychological Outcome After Puberty Suppression and Gender Reassignment. A clinical protocol of a multidisciplinary team with mental health professionals, physicians, and surgeons, including puberty suppression, followed by cross-sex hormones and gender reassignment surgery, provides trans youth the opportunity to develop into well-functioning young adults. All showed significant improvement in their psychological health, and they had notably lower rates of internalizing psychopathology than previously reported among trans children living as their natal sex. Well-being was similar to or better than same-age young adults from the general population.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2014/09/02/peds.2013-2958
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>>44998501
>The only disorders more common among trans people are those associated with abuse and discrimination - mainly anxiety and depression. Early transition virtually eliminates these higher rates of depression and low self-worth, and dramatically improves trans youth's mental health. Trans kids who socially transition early and who are not subjected to abuse or discrimination are comparable to cisgender children in measures of mental health.
http://www.jaacap.com/article/S0890-8567%2816%2931941-4/fulltext

https://thinkprogress.org/allowing-transgender-youth-to-transition-improves-their-mental-health-study-finds-dd6096523375#.pqspdcee0

>Dr. Ryan Gorton: In a cross-sectional study of 141 transgender patients, Kuiper and Cohen-Kittenis found that after medical intervention and treatments, suicide fell from 19% to 0% in transgender men and from 24% to 6% in transgender women.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3219066

>Murad, et al., 2010: Significant decrease in suicidality post-treatment. The average reduction was from 30% pretreatment to 8% post treatment. ... A meta-analysis of 28 studies showed that 78% of transgender people had improved psychological functioning after treatment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19473181
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>>44998501
>De Cuypere, et al., 2006: Rate of suicide attempts dropped dramatically from 29.3% to 5.1% after receiving medical and surgical treatment among Dutch patients treated from 1986-2001.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1158136006000491

>UK study: Suicidal ideation and actual attempts reduced after transition, with 63% thinking about or attempting suicide more before they transitioned and only 3% thinking about or attempting suicide more post-transition.
http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Medpro-Assets/trans_mh_study.pdf

>Smith Y, 2005: Participants improved on 13 out of 14 mental health measures after receiving treatments.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15842032

>Lawrence, 2003: Surveyed post-op trans folk: "Participants reported overwhelmingly that they were happy with their SRS results and that SRS had greatly improved the quality of their lives
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1024086814364

>There are a lot of studies showing that transition improves mental health and quality of life while reducing dysphoria. Not to mention this 2010 meta-analysis of 28 different studies, which found that transition is extremely effective at reducing dysphoria and improving quality of life.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24344788

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-009-9551-1

https://mayoclinic.pure.elsevier.com/en/publications/hormonal-therapy-and-sex-reassignment-a-systematic-review-and-met

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2014/960745/

http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/25690443

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-014-0453-5

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23553588_Long-term_Assessment_of_the_Physical_Mental_and_Sexual_Health_among_Transsexual_Women

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x/abstract
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>>44998501
Condemnation of "conversion therapy" attempting to change the gender identities of trans people:

>American College of Physicians
http://annals.org/aim/article/2292051/lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender-health-disparities-executive-summary-policy-position

>Included in the AAP Guidelines previously mentioned - see coverage on this "therapy" starting p.12
http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com//files/documents/SupportingCaringforTransChildren.pdf

>American Psychoanalytic Association
http://www.apsa.org/content/2012-position-statement-attempts-change-sexual-orientation-gender-identity-or-gender

>A joint statement from the UK Council for Psychotherapy, British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy, British Psychoanalytic Council, British Association for Behavioural and Cognitive Psychotherapies, The British Psychological Society, College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists, The Association of LGBT Doctors and Dentists, The National Counselling Society, NHS Scotland, Pink Therapy, Royal College of General Practitioners, the Scottish Government and Stonewall.
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/01/16/health-experts-condemn-attempts-to-cure-trans-people-in-wake-of-controversial-bbc-documentary/

>The AAP Guidelines also have a pretty emphatic and detailed condemnation of "conversion therapy", starting on p. 13. Not to mention a 2010 meta-analysis of 28 different studies, which found that transition is extremely effective at reducing dysphoria and improving quality of life.
http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com//files/documents/SupportingCaringforTransChildren.pdf

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x/abstract
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>>44998501
Sex is a dimmer, not a switch.
In the womb, the same tissues are sculpted by hormones into male or female forms ("homologous structures"). Hormone therapy flips those same switches: trans women on estrogen grow breasts like any woman's; trans men on testosterone even develop some prostate tissue.

Chromosomes don't define sex: roughly two-thirds of cis women carry Y-chromosome DNA in their brains and organs from past pregnancies, yet nobody calls them male. Gamete-based definitions crumble with IVG, which can turn skin cells into sperm or eggs.

Sex is a spectrum, and hormone therapy moves a person along it. Transition isn't a rejection of biology: it's a medically guided navigation of the grey area where male and female traits overlap.
Citations.
Hormone therapy changes gene expression toward the affirmed sex:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspx

Male/female tissue production:
https://archive.is/UUwHt
https://archive.is/tYB8f

Anyone's skin cells can be turned into either sperm or eggs (IVG):
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/27/1177191913/sperm-or-egg-in-lab-breakthrough-in-reproduction-designer-babies-ivg

Basic anatomy: male/female sex organs "homologous structures" already alike in the womb, and change with hormones. Likewise, postnatal hormones change how they are.
https://uen.pressbooks.pub/anatomyphysiology2/chapter/homologous-structures-in-the-male-female/
https://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/meded/grossanatomy/pelvis/homology.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_related_male_and_female_reproductive_organs

Most cisgender women carry Y chromosomes in their bodies:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/
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>>44999051
They were NOT using autism as a insult. You are just trying to make them look bad. I can say that cuz i have autism.
Stop virtue signaling, you're ableist yourself.
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100~ studies in support of gender identity.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/htmlview?pli=1#gid=0
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