man's greatest sin is allowing the great male renunciation to occur. every problem in the modern world can be traced back to this particular event in human history
>>45030598marcy?
only aristocrats were allowed to dress like that and nowadays only the middle and upper classes dress however they want too, not much changed
>>45030788trvke, wageslaves have always had to use burlaps, but now it's polyester.
i'd dress in twink clothing if i didnt live around browns and blacks
>>45030598>great male renunciation Oo I'm a rational man from the 1790's! I'm going to reduce avenues for self expression but only for men, because I'm so enlightened and rational! Surely this won't just speedrun men becoming faceless industrial livestock!
>>45030959>Surely this won't just speedrun men becoming faceless industrial livestock!I think the technological advancements in the means of production did that.
>>45030747hi anon, how are you?>>45030788true, but I was mostly talking about what >>45030959 posted in that i think it is a travesty that men threw away so much and became so plain and uniform. not just physically, but socially too. i loathe how rigid and crass the male hierarchy is. it has caused so much pain and repression for so many people across the world. my heart genuinely hurts for them because they have to hide or kill parts of themselves in order to squeeze into a box they were never meant to fit inside of
>>45030788Human development should mean everyone getting to live like the aristocracy if they want to
>>45031873feudalism stopped being a thing like a century ago in case you hadn't noticed, even the last semifeudal states fully transitioned to capitalism decades ago
>>45031527youre extrapolating a short period in western european history to the entirety of humanity lmao
>>45031974its true doe. men rly gave up their femininity for nothing in the long term bc look at where it lead us
Sorry, the divas got their head cut off by men who thought wearing silk made you a decadent immoral tyrant. Things have never been the same since
>>45034520trvke niggas are unironically scared of the colour pink and making physical contact with other niggas it's crazy
>>45033680>actual argument vs "its true tho"i forget how retarded burgers are sometimesthis might shock you but a single century in only a portion of a single continent doesnt represent mankind
>>45033680You are the one who's taking hrt, if you managed to find a way to order another vial (I really hope you did). You shouldn't be the one talking about men as if you're one of them.
>>45035062NTA but that's basically all burgers.They genuinely believe that their societal retardation is normative for all humanity and that every single event anywhere in the world is somehow related to their petty politics.That's why they're so shocked when they travel abroad (the tiny minority that does since most burgers don't even have a passport).
>>45035062>>45035548i'm not american though>a single century in only a portion of a single continent doesnt represent mankindsaid century in a portion of a single continent was pretty influential in the western hemisphere? you're acting like it took place in some bumfuck country like romania>>45035339>I really hope you didi did and the pharmacy i ordered from faxed my doctor since i had no refills left. also i'm still a man so i can talk about this >>45035548>>45035548i dunno, france and Britain had a pretty heavy had in american interests at the time. the world wasn't as isolated as you think it was
>>45036096You are injecting estrogen so you will never be a man, no matter how much you want. You will forever be a woman.Congrats on getting back on hrt though. Crisis averted.
>>45036096>you're acting like it took place in some bumfuck country like romaniaromania at least generated the first live broadcasted regime change which ended with a commie scum executed. that's far more consequential than the social purity movement of bumfuck burgeristan which was not influential at all anywhere outside decaying and failing angloidistan no matter how much you cope about it.
>>45036096>took place in some bumfuck country like romaniaThat sounds specific
>>45030788anons will think you are joking but literally the entire world had sumptuary laws at some point
>>45036152wrong, I am a cis man soon-to-be on hrt>>45036491again, I'm not american and you are taking this way too seriously lmfao. I just want men to stop being ugly and to dress up nicely>>45036541tbf i was tired and needed an example
>>45030598Kys
>>45030598Wrong, its the creation of the panopticon and people thinking its good for anything other than a giant death camp. For example, we're posting on a digital panopticon right now and lets be real, its pretty death campy here!
>>45038170>namefag can't even say kill yourselfsad!>>45038191there's def a ton of factors but the great male renunciation always stuck out to me as the final nail in the coffin. i get that male femininity didn't totally die out afterwards but hooollylyy we could've had so much more if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot
>>45030788So? We don't have sumptuary laws now so what's the excuse? Obviously manual workers can't engage in more style but lots of people don't work that way now. You're engaging in stylelet copium
>>45035062The trends of the great male renunciation affected europe, america, and their respective empires, as well as east asia when they modernized. When Japan was modernizing mens kimono colors became more drab to reflect modern (which at the time meant anglo-american) sensibilities. >>45038081I have an Boz OP but I don't wear it outside of the house. The fabric is really beautiful though.
>>45038213personally im a big fan of the panopticon theory. its a really big in the woods of the great lakes where im from. We actually knew it would happen before the invention of the panopticon!
>>45038230anona is just mad that they don't have a sense of style
>>45038254we have lost so fucking much and thinking about it is making me sad again. i will never forgive the people of the 18th and 19th centuries>I have an Boz OP but I don't wear it outside of the house. The fabric is really beautiful though.oughhhhh i'm jealous ;^; i've been looking at old fashion lolita magazines for a lil bit now and there are sooo many good pieces that i wish i could've owned;;>>45038255cuuuuute, you guys could've been swamp mages in another life
>>45040400>oughhhhh i'm jealous ;^; i've been looking at old fashion lolita magazines for a lil bit now and there are sooo many good pieces that i wish i could've owned;;Ah, me too, especially the old Moi-meme-Moitie (mana's brand), so much of that stuff is like impossible to get anymore. To be honest, I always wanted to wear ouji, but I don't really have the body for it.
The renunciation can (and should) be reversed. But it won't be reversed by brainwormed shutins. Nor by close minded westoids.Vietnam and Pakistan still have contemporary men's dresses as very much normal in public. So one should look at those as a starting point of inspiration (and hit etsy for specialized vendors).Dresses like picrel and longer skirts look great on men. But it also does require a healthy weight.
