Would it be possible for me to immigrate to the United States of America from Russia through asylum for being a tranny? At this moment, I have exactly zero proof that I'm trans, and I haven't even started hormones or anything like. But I suppose I could do that, although I don't know what kind of proof is needed.And to be clear, I actually want to be a woman, I'm not just doing it to immigrate, except that in the sense if I couldn't immigrate, I would probably just kill myself instead of starting hormones.
If not, any other realistic way to immigrate to the US? I'm just a regular retard that no one knows about. I have bachelor's degree in tech, but not enough experience.
Literally the only refugees that are currently being accepted into the USA right now are white South Africans. Try Canada instead
>>45109250I don't mean now, when dems are in power will do
>>45109187You're fucked nigga
>>45109286Why?
So if I can't move the US, why even bother living? I don't want to live in a shithole that is Russia.
No.But oinkraine will gladly accept you, zister.
>>45109187Why tf would you move to America? Surely ther is a better country for a trans refugee. I mean i know we dont have it the worst but like maybe go to a place where the party that got elected off of demonizing us isnt in power?
can't you migrate to the united kingdom and get on benefits?
>>45109353Like what? Perhaps I'm really ignorant, but I'm under the impression that the European countries (or any other countries) are not that socially accepting of trans people, and the blue states (or at least some of them) of the US are essentially the best place on Earth to be a tranny.But also, I don't know any other foreign language.
>>45109344Why do you think the US is good. You're a fucking retarded falling for propaganda pushed 100 years ago. "American dream" propaganda from pre WW2 really convinced you that you have it bad?Kill yourself.Im stuck in this shithole being raped to death by corpos and currently in the process of getting my visa to China to move there.What's your telegram so we can talk?
>>45109375Why would I want to move to the UK?>>45109381Fuck off, I don't want to live in some fucking dictatorship
>>45109381This retard has never had the pleasure of living in an eastern european shithole.
>>45109388So you want to be raped to death by heathcare and tech oligarchs instead? At least Russia cares about its citizens and takes care of them. The US government literally is leaving me to die because of these heath insurance companies killing us
Man fuck this garbage life, it is really leaving me no choice but to kill myself. Can't be a woman, can't live in a reasonably good country, can't have a good family, can't have money, can't have anything
>>45109292I'd probably suggest finding a way to flee to some nearby post Soviet state then applying for asylum in Canada or the EU.
>>45109187It would be worth a shot but in all honesty you'd prolly be better off trying to get into Canada or some EU cunt
>>45109450Russia is a great country if I knew Russian I would move there. Every time I've visited Moscow the place is a utopia compared to any of the cities here in the US
>>45109381>>45109423Blue states with certain insurances pay for hrt and surgeries, more/bigger trans communities, some of the best food/widest selection, marijuana, less restricted internet, more sunny days, guns uhhhhh we the best music
Is Georgia an option? Ive heard it was pretty popular place for Russians to flee to.
If not through asylum, then through what other mechanism can I immigrate to the US?
>>45109487You want blue states. Red states are usually poorer and don't like queers or immigrants.
>>45109453>>45109470Why the fuck would I want to live in Canada or the EU?>>45109487Why? I don't want to live in Georgia, permanently or temporarily.
very funny, asylum in the poo S A for being trans. even the most "progressive" countries don't take trans refugees and violate our rights themselves
>>45109551do you want an escape or not retardbeggars can't be choosers
>>45109553In Russia "LGBT movement" is equated to a extremist/terrorist organization, so that helps with the asylum
>>45109551Much better than being stuck in Russia as a tranny.
>>45109564My post asks about immigrating to the US, not about escaping Russia.If I can't immigrate to a developed (first world) country, then I would rather kill myself, I don't want to live in any shithole country, whether it's Russia or some other country.>>45109612Well I mean I didn't start hormones yet
What is your telegram so we can talk
>>45109637Just talk here
>>45109618Focus on getting the fuck out of Russia and getting on hrt first, then you can worry about how you'll immigrate to the US.
>>45109618have you been to the US? It's a shithole and basically Russia Jr. at this point.
>>45109187maybe? idk i know someone who did something similar except they moved to france
>>45109187You’re going to have an uphill battle trying to immigrate to US especially when you haven’t even started HRT. It’ll basically come off as>Russian spy attempting to infiltrateThe most common places i’ve heard russian trannies flee to are France and Germany; getting a career and HRT going, and then immigrating somewhere else. You need to play the hand you’re dealt, don’t give up without at least trying, and things will improve.
>>45109661You say like this is something you can figure out. As I see it, it is nearly impossible to immigrate to the US.- A student visa will not help you to permanently immigrate, the only benefit is OPT, which is unlikely to help much- A work visa is a lottery based system that requires sponsorship by the employer, which the employer is of course not going to do for nearly every job ever, except for top jobs in like 3 or 4 professions- Even if you get a work visa, the employer will need to do PERM labor certification for you to apply for a green card, which the employer is not going to do for you- Talent visas require you to be someone more than an average retard- Investment visas require you to have a lot of money- DV lottery is purely luck based, impractical to count on as a real immigration planSo in any case you need one of these:1. A lot of money2. Being an internationally/nationally-known person in some field/sphere3. Working a highly-sought-after job such that US employers are willing to hire you, sponsor your visa and then do labor certification.I don't have any of that shit. The only practical ways to immigrate permanently are:1. Marriage - no one's gonna marry some retard who has no house, no car, no money in the US2. Asylum - potentially possible for me3. Living as an illegal immigrant
>>45109734>when you haven’t even started HRTI meant that I would start HRT by the time I would attempt to get asylum
>>45109734>You need to play the hand you’re dealtHate this phrase, no I don't want to play the hand I'm dealt if the hand fucking sucks
>>45109754Start it now, don’t get caught or open about being trans, and work towards getting the fuck out of there.>>45109777>hate this phraseI don’t mean you need to stay in Russia or not transition; i meant that given the few options you have it’s better to try them (such as moving to France or Germany) than killing yourself.
>>45109264Dems are never going to be in power again.
>>45109836Even conservacucks/centrists are tired of the needless wars and fixation towards social issues instead of impactful ones. Bloodbath at the voting booths.
>>45109907Conservatives say stuff like that, but they actually love it. Conservatives don’t give a single fuck about “economic” policy. Trump is exactly what they’ve always wanted. Dems are coping hard, but every single branch of government will remain red.
>>45109833>i meant that given the few optionsAnd I meant that if the hand is rigged against you or the roll is unlucky, then it's better to give up and to do so quickly rather than to "play the hand you're dealt".How exactly moving to France or Germany going to help me move to the United States eventually? Based on what I said in >>45109739, living in the EU doesn't help you immigrate to the US, except if you want to immigrate illegally, which I would prefer not to do if possible. So what's the point of coming to France or Germany then? I don't actually want to permanently live there.
>>45109949>better to give up than try because it’s difficultThis is irrational thinking for us that contend with suicidal ideation. No matter how convincing it feels for us, it’s still the illogical choice than to try and persevere as long as we can until the end. Options exist, they’re not the most preferable but they’re options that are better than our current situation.>Whats the point of going to France or GermanySo you can transition without the risk of being hate crimed or discriminated from while working towards a career that GETS YOU IN either America or somewhere else.Do you have a career that is in high demand for America? (Doctor, Physicist, Engineer, etc) If not, then how the fuck are you going to immigrate here during a period of anti trans sentiment? You’d have to hold out for a few years in Russia waiting and hoping that the laws change fast enough so that you can asylum here. Any tranny would say that’s a waste of time. You need to start HRT asap and you need to build a career so you can properly immigrate where you want to go.
>>45110013>Do you have a career that is in high demand for America?My degree is in tech, which used to be a career that would approve a lot of H-1B visas (usually you would need to be on OPT though), or transfer to the US with L-1. But not anymore.>(Doctor, Physicist, Engineer, etc)I'm too retarded for any of that.
>>45110013>how the fuck are you going to immigrate here during a period of anti trans sentiment?Didn't I already say that I'm not considering claiming an asylum now, but in the future, when the dems are in power?>how the fuck are you going to immigrate hereWell it is impossible for me other than through asylum or by being an illegal immigrant
>>45109551>Why the fuck would I want to live in Canada or the EU?Better quality of life, better LGBT rights, less crime, affordable healthcare, cities are built better, It's also much easier to be granted asylum to Canada or the EU than it is for the US especially with the current administration
>>45109381Don’t listen to this retard they live in their parents basement. Americans get paid 25 dollars to work at mcdonalds and think they suffer because they cannot afford a new iphone every month
All these answers suck
>>45110232minimum wage depends on state. I think Texas is still $7. There’s also a drought of employment and huge unemployment currently. Let’s not pretend the citizens are thriving; they’re at best minimally above third world countries.
>>45109187Stay and make your country better...?
>>45109379Maybe I'm just mentally ill (I am a tranny after all) and falling to The Grass Is Greener mentality but I don't know how long I'll even stay in my blue state. Like... Is it supposed to be a tranny paradise? Nobody seems to even notice I'm trying to transition and be a woman so they still just think I'm like, a weird awkward man.
>>45110558Lol, lmao even
>>45109547>american education
>>45111371>>45110613What's stopping them?
Get drafted and defect to Ukraine? Then some EU country would let you in I bet
