This is probably very autistic to admit, but I am an incel who always liked MILFs as a sexual thing, but over the past few months this attraction completely shifted away from any type of porn or hentai into thinking "What if I was a MILF instead?" and now I cannot stop thinking about it and how I would like to have a curvy female body and talk like they doI cant even jerk off anymore because it stopped being purely sexual and now its everything I think about So since Im 19 and 5'4, should I troon out to potentially reach that body type as my own?
>>45116240agp
>>45116244Okay but that doesnt tell me what I should do
>>45116240>So since Im 19 and 5'4, should I troon out to potentially reach that body type as my own?Yes, absolutely. Get on injections, progesterone, and pioglitazone. Life is better as a woman at every stage anyway so there's no use continuing to be an incel male. You're 5' 4" so it's impossible to looksmax your way into high or even mid male status, but very possible to looksmax into high female status.
>>45116267>Get on injections, progesterone, and pioglitazone.How expensive is it and where to buy>You're 5' 4" so it's impossible to looksmax your way into high or even mid male statusYeah I know thats why Im an incel, I never had sex or a relationship before I only ever watched porn as cope
>>45116258>4chan please tell me what to do with my life!!!How do people like this make it to adulthood without suffocating on a straw?
>>45116301>How expensive is it and where to buyThe more willing you are to DIY, the less expensive it gets. Just the doctor visits to get on HRT is as much as a couple years of stuff from DIY markets. That same price could buy you a few bags of raw powders for all of them that could last most, if not all, of your lifespan.Anyway, valerie dot vg is the current repository of where to buy premade HRT. Made dash in dash China dot com is the current site to buy raws from. Search by CAS number for anything you need. Anything involving doctors is on you to figure out locally, but also won't likely prescribe you either injections or progesterone, and most haven't even heard of pioglitazone. You'll obviously need a bit of seed money to get the ball rolling the first year, and after that female privilege and halo effect should have kicked in and you'll be able to find more stable work to buy your next few years. Do try to stock up when possible, regulations keep trying to fuck with us and it's not always guaranteed that your shipment gets delivered without hassle or reshipments.
>>45116621Okay I see thanks
>>45116240Many such cases.If you're too high agp, you risk being your own worst enemy by expecting impossible results.Trannymaxxing is an exercise of discipline. Done right, it's worth it for sure. Done wrong, it's a waste of time at best.When >>45116621 says>the first year, and after that female privilege and halo effect should have kicked in and you'll be able to find more stable work to buy your next few yearsthat's quite an exaggeration.You'd need a lot of luck and to also be quite a bit fembrained already to get to access even a modicum of female privilege after just a year. In reality, it takes a bit more than that and hrt is a necessary but not a sufficient ingredient.
>>45116779>>45116621I think you two overestimate how much I actually want to "transmaxx" as a lifestyle and brain choice over just me wanting to have a sexy mature female body which I could occasionally use for sex or such idk Im too autistic to ever have a regular life considering I dont have friends or a social circle or job prospects, but I would still want to live in a body that I want, if you understand what Im saying
>>45116832>if you understand what Im sayingI do. There's nothing wrong with trooning for a fetish and settling somewhere on the journey before "ideal" completion but still makes you happier.You want to be an hrt femboy and to then slowly age into a more milf-y pattern for sexual reasons. Nothing wrong with that.With that said, you're still looking at this wrong.>Im too autistic to ever have a regular lifeYou're 19, not 59. Dafuq. Your life just barely started, jfc.>I dont have friends or a social circleThen make some. Again, you're 19, not 59.>or job prospectsYou're 19!!!! Very few 19 year olds have job prospects. Most 19 year olds have fun and do shit tier jobs for a while. That's what you should do as well.With this mentality you're not going to get anywhere near close to what you want, anon.
>>45116779>and to also be quite a bit fembrained already to get to access even a modicum of female privilegeFeminism posioned dreck. I dress in the same milsurp and school shooter baggy shit I always did, but since I'm short and had unmasculine features, aka was a fucking incel, I started passing and getting the female privilege out of it. Only other women give a shit if you're "fembrained" or not, the high status men who run the show just see you as female now and don't care if you look autistic.
>>45116832Whatever reason you want to do this is your own, I just wanted to help you and give you some advice based on how the world actually works because I've been there myself before. I didn't know or see any of this when I was your age either so I don't mind if we disagree on anything, I didn't want to to admit society worked this way for a while either.The important part is that you're young and short and already starting down the right path. The rest of your life will fall into place for you once you ascend to being treated as an actual human being by others. I wish you the best, please don't give up on yourself <3
>>45116240If you end up not passing your life will be horribleIf you get to be a passoid some things in your life will improve and some will get worse bc you'll get to be a womanYou can detroon at any time you wantThe only "permanent" effect from hrt are the breastsEven though I wasted my whole childhood daydreaming about being a woman and almost killed myself during puberty, I'm agp as fuck and becoming hot is the only thing that makes me get up every morning, so I think you should try it.If I was you, I'd start hrt and pioglitazone, then I'd bulk while going to the gym until I had a big butt, then I'd socially transition. Also search if where you live insurance covers ffs, ba, vfs and srs.
>>45117076Nothing about life gets worse as a woman. It's literally 100% improvements.
>>45117210if you say so
>>45116871>>45117019I guess Im going to order that HRT now but I hope I actually get that body shape I want because if I dont it would feel kinda lame
>>45117882you have plenty of time, like 10 years to make it happen. you can do ittttttthe dating pool needs more dommy mommys anyway. JOIN US
>>45117882About the only thing you can't control much is how big your tits get naturally, because it's based on genetics from your family. Hips and ass are all fat and pioglitazone makes your body deposit fat there if also taking HRT. Good luck either way!
>>45117924>>45118707Sounds like it might actually fulfill my AGP then
>>45116980>Only other women give a shit if you're "fembrained" or not, the high status men who run the show just see you as female now and don't care if you look autistic.Yes, but then there's also the issue that other women control most of the employment.In Europe I could work around that by using the female-favoring affirmative action laws, but it doesn't quite work like that in most of the world though.>>45117882Good luck. But, as I was saying here >>45116779 , hrt alone is not sufficient. You still need to work out, maintain healthy weight, laser or shave, add prog later on and use pio if you can get it (and be careful with that too!).
>>45116240Stay slim, then start estrogen. and then slowly gain weight so it goes to the right spots. Also become my wife so I can impregnate you. You never got to fuck a woman, but I'll fuck you like the silly little girl you are.
>>45120808I also don't care if ur autistic or silly, I have a lot of patience and I'm kind. I'd love a wife like you
>>45120808>Also become my wife so I can impregnate you. You never got to fuck a woman, but I'll fuck you like the silly little girl you are.NTA but you don't know whether OP is mef or not. This kind of talk is hot to mefs, but not to most others.
>>45121162u sound like the kind of nerd i'd fuck while u yap about politics or tech or some other hyperfixation
>>45121162Whats mef
>>45123940nta but masochistic emasculation fetish
>>45124548I dont want to be a masochist
>>45116240>mindbroken by inceldom at only 19 years of agewhy are zoomers so weak in spirit
>>45125471>you must live as an undesirable loner until you are 45 and die of suicide instead of doing something about it by 20 or else you are weak spirited nigga really?
>>45125471They're not, they're very high in spirit. Instead of waiting and playing the foids gambit OP is already taking their life into their own hands and deciding to not waste the only youthful years their body will ever have chasing a delusion that has killed countless others before them. It takes a true visionary to see the exit of the cave even while the flames make shadows dance on the wall right in front of them.