>>45117103
Literally do not 'have to' do anything you're describing though

>>45117248
Yeah and I do not "have to" continue living I can kill myself anytime but I still continue living because its objectively better to live than die

>>45117265
Your choices are to do a bunch of social behavior you claim annoys you or kill yourself and that's your comparison? Whateva nigga sorry normal female life annoys you

>>45117103
sounds horrible having everyone desire you and want to appease you for existing.

>>45117103
you've thrown yourself into a world completely unfamiliar to you, it takes time getting used to and learning how to navigate things you've never had to. you'll find a comfortable balance eventually nona

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>>45117103
>WAHHH PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH MEEE MY LIFE IS SOOO BADDD

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>>45117363
>>45117453
You lot are so male socialized I swear, not everything has to be about how many people want to fuck you, its not a metric of life quality
Living is more than that

>>45117103
im gonna kiss every humblebragger out there i love you all <3

>>45117761
>claims to be autistic and neety p4 trooning
>instantly starts larping and calling other people male socialized after making it purely because of luck

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>>45117399
I mean I was told it would take effort but it really is kinda exhausting doing this every day for some time now especially coming from a background or lazyness
>>45117790
Its entirely thanks to my efforts that I am where I am, looks only play a part in it, and I really loathe when people tell me I made it simply because people want to fuck me now
Most men are subpar its not great to be desired by them, and I have a boyfriend already its not a good thing that people still pursue me

>>45117790
>>45117248
TRVKES

>>45117812
>looks only play a part
Without them, you'd be a manmoder and functionally not a tranny at all

I love how you're sickened by all these bisexual men whom want your boyhole and gock but you're practically one of them, just with more estrogen

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>>45117812
>Its entirely thanks to my efforts that I am where I am
>I already had a good baseline as a short guy with unmasculine features so it wasnt even hard to pass

>>45117103
>I also have to constantly take care of my appearance and body and do many minor details and makeup, and how I walk and talk and how I express myself and I have to think about so many people and what and when they want and remember everything they say
>Its too fucking much
>I was raised being completely alone and undesired and lazy and now I have to deal with passive aggressive female coworkers, I have to deal with multiple random guys hitting on me every day, I have to still talk to my family because I love them, I also have to buy so much shit for my appearance and body maintenance and always have new shit to wear, and I have to go out with people to drink or coffee or just attend events and I have to navigate my boss being a balding fat old married man who wants to cheat, on top of also having to spend time with my boyfriend and I always end up cleaning our apartment because he doesnt
you don't have to do literally any of that?
>trying to pretend to be a nice social butterfly with tits
you literally don't have to do that???
you transmaxxed wrong bitch, you stay your incel chudself but with an actual positive future to look forward to instead of trying to fit in with normie women
take the privilege for what it's worth and leave the foid menace in the dumps where they belong

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>>45117103
literally just lol

>>45117761
oh nvm you're not acting you're just an actual bitchy foid menace larping as a former incel that trooned
you aren't even autistic

>>45117812
>Most men are subpar its not great to be desired by them
here you are contributing to the exact world that made you an incel by calling any man who isn't a 666 chad thunderfuck "subpar" lmao you deserve every bit of suffering you bring your way with your stupid larp

>>45117761
>not everything has to be about how many people want to fuck you, its not a metric of life quality
>Living is more than that
Not really if you're a tranny. If you're a trans woman and you aren't fuckable, most people just consider you an abomination unworthy of life. If you're attractive, they at least want to keep you around to get their dicks hard.

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>>45118055
So according to you I cannot be an ex-incel (which I didnt exactly claim to be either, just a virgin) and I cannot be autistic simply because I put effort into my life? Huh?
>>45118077
Well unfortunately I dont have obligations to make subpar men feel better about themselves, I made my own situation better by my own merits and effort and some tiny luck
Stop babying adults

>>45118402
i think people are just annoyed that you are “humble” bragging. maybe if you are actually autistic you don’t understand, but most of the people on hear are ugly or very nonpassing, so yeah a post like this is a honeypot tbhon.

>>45117761
I was never socialized as either sex. I don't really know how to be an adult even though I'm old enough

This is a bad bait its funny that trannies are falling for it

>>45118482
Anything anyone posts can be called bait

>>45118442
This is me too, but I've figured out how to arrange my life so that I can show up to work consistently and on time and that seems to be enough to live thankfully. I still have zero friends or romantic opportunities so I often wonder what the point of it all is.

>>45117363
>>45117453
that is genuinely annoying but all the appearance stuff is kind of just complaining to complain tbdesu

>>45119269
how? no like actually how? can you not fathom saying no? it blows my mind as someone who is in their 30's and has never been approached, asked out, flirted with, or even complimented, and yes i am obviously still a khhv too

>>45119441
yes you can say "no" but this doesn't mean they'll just instantly stop wanting to fuck you so if you share any space with this person for a prolonged period of time the way they act towards you becomes really awkward and uncomfortable and this is the best case scenario where we assume they aren't psychotic and won't actively hurt you for rejecting them

>>45119525
the way everyone interacts with is already really awkward and uncomfortable so i can't really see the issue? if everything stayed the same but i had people interested in me that'd be solely an improvement

>>45119787
Sexual harassment and assault suck in ways you don't fully appreciated until they happen to you

>>45118756
I've never really experienced sexual attraction I feel the same way about sex as I did when I was a child

>>45119823
i was raped as a kid and molested my teenage years so again idk what the functional difference is if there are at least some genuine people in the pool that would like me as an actual partner

>>45119823
Some people deal with it better and some worse. People are unique and all that.
Having been assaulted and raped as an adult? I still want to be harassed lmao
It's a core component of being female, every single one of your female friends had it happen probably before they were 20, and even actual cis women who never get harassed start to get a little weird about it.

If the whole world's a meat market and nobody's trying to take you off the rack, you must be rotten, right?

>>45117103
>>45118442
>I was never socialized as either sex. I don't really know how to be an adult even though I'm old enough
Sounds like a good opportunity to just get yourself socialized as a woman. That's what I did. It makes a lot of things easier.
>now I have to deal with passive aggressive female coworkers
girl, come on. those dramas are fun!
yes, they're also a confirmation of various black pill takes, but they're also so much fun.

>>45121046
>get yourself socialized as a woman
literally how though? being unsocialized as any gender makes every gender innately view you as a gimped freak that never should have left homeschool

>>45121081
>literally how though?
given what you've written, it does sound like you're on the right path.
Trial and error works. Making a close cisf friend is also a very fast cheat/shortcut.
>being unsocialized as any gender makes every gender innately view you as a gimped freak
Neah.
Men don't give af that much as you think. The exact same guys who kept their distance from me actively wanted to be my friend (most not sexually) once i passed decently, even though I was still poorly socialized.
The only people who care are other women. Once you figure out (and you will, if you start paying attention) how fem cliques work, you'll also learn that half of what they say or think literally doesn't matter, about a quarter is intentional sabotage (women sabotage each other a lot more than you dare to think) and the remaining quarter can be useful information either for yourself on how to get better or for future conflicts.
Yes, it's a learning curve. Yes, it's annoying. But it's also not that hard once you start treating it lightly rather than with the highly serious and turboneurotic approach that you're currently doing.
You really need a cisf IRL close friend, nona. Or a much older tranny friend. Even better a much older cisf friend, like a spiritual mother.
>I have to think about so many people and what and when they want and remember everything they say
JFC that's more fembrained than me and I made a conscious effort to soulpass and fully do now.
Here's the thing: you don't actually have to care about everyone and you don't have to remember everything they say.
Prioritize your husband/bf, your closest people and everyone else can (and should!) be treated more superficially.

>>45121149
cis women don't even sound like they're worth being friends with based on what you just said :(
i'll just keep hanging out with guys i guess but they only really talk about videogames and it gets boring because i have other hobbies too and still feel alone on this barren earth devoid of love or understanding

>>45121233
>cis women don't even sound like they're worth being friends with based on what you just said :(
Most people aren't worth being friends with, nonny. Welcome to adult life.
Cis women aren't aliens. They're just people who are socialized slightly differently than men. Learning their socialization isn't even that hard (and it's at least in part fun).
>they only really talk about videogames
Then change the social circle.
This was among the first thing I did when I began transition. The guys also made it easier since they thought I was crazy for trooning.
Pro-tip: get into hiking/outdoors kind of activities. Very tranny friendly and also generally a very different kind of people.

>>45121264
>Cis women aren't aliens.
i feel like i am the alien anywhere i go
>Then change the social circle.
i don't know how, i don't even know how i ended up talking to the people i do have besides randomly working with them or having them add me after a lobby because i did well

>>45121331
>i don't even know how i ended up talking to the people i do
So you DO know how to socialize normally. You just haven't gotten yourself ridden of this turboautistic and turboneurotic mentality that everything has to make perfect sense.
There's your answer. Things don't have to make perfect sense AND THAT'S FINE. Life is a series of random anyway. Stop taking shit too seriously.
>besides randomly working with them or having them add me after a lobby because i did well
There you go. Randomly work with others and do well in other places. That's literally it. It's clear you already know the rest.
Stop being your own worst enemy. Your issue is misplaced priorities rn, not lack of skill or knowledge.

>>45117103
>>45117103
i think you're stressing way too much about social etiquette. yes you do need to perform femininity quite a lot in order to pass better. at this point it sounds like you've learned enough and can kinda exist on autopilot for a bit.

make sure you're doing this because it makes you happy, not just stressing you out.

if you genuinely cant handle it, find a rich moid to marry and spend the rest of your days getting fat, going on vacations, and cleaning/cooking for him. sounds like that might make u more happier

Be careful what you wish for

>>45121378
anon... this is how i ended up with the social circle you just told me to get rid of so obviously it doesn't work and people who actually want to talk aren't attracted to speaking with me so it's just shallow gamers and silence from other women
you're only right that none of what you said makes sense because it all contradicts itself constantly and has no actionable steps just a bunch of wish fulfillment about your own story and victim blaming for mine

>>45124145
>just told me to get rid of
I did not.
I said change it, not destroy/abandon.
You can have more than one social circle, yk? I have the mostly male social circle for some emotional and fun needs, I have the girls social circle for others and the work-related one.
>no actionable steps
Yes, that's how life works, I'm afraid.
It's not a logical videogame with if() else() conditions. You can accept that and enjoy the ride or you can continue stressing yourself out for reasons that only make sense in a hyper-autistic context and that almost nobody else around you is even aware of or cares.
>just a bunch of wish fulfillment about your own story and victim blaming for mine
Oh fo' fuck's sake. You're ~95% where you should be and i'm trying to get you to take the last steps to finally no longer be stressed.
You're not a victim. You're already a winner. I'm not disparaging you. Quite the opposite, I'm happily impressed with your accomplishments and want you to fully win because you have all the tools already for that.

>>45124544
i don't think you're going to understand me so i don't see the point in trying again
i haven't won anything, i have nothing and nobody to talk to about anything deeper than "did you see the new deadlock character", i'm 0% of the way to happiness and 110% of the way to isolation and misery
your words are only here to cut me and if i read anymore of your replies you will just try to gaslight me more to get the last word in at any cost to your opponent