wtf why do so many of yall trannies wanna live in an authoritarian state that’s fucking insane to me, do you all even realize what you’re advocating for?
>>45118168depends on what kind of authoritarian. I wouldn’t be opposed if this authoritarian enforced its people to go to school rather than the mess we have where people are either homeschooled or drop out, leading to how fucking retarded majority of people are in the western world. Also ban indoctrinating religions.
>>45118168clearly people are too retarded to vote for good policy and prefer nazi/communist demagogues. democracy has failed
Half of all trannies are below average intelligenceLow IQ people tend to have trouble understanding pluralistic systems or non zero-sum political theoryThis is why populist dictatorships are the inevitable outcome of any democratic system, any truly viable policy platforms that produce a high social utility score will be too complex for the average retard to understand let alone a below average personWhereas non-viable (but highly attractive to voters) platforms can appeal to a wide enough range of voters that you end up with shitheads that plunder the country and break everything and the masses will support it because they are too stupid to understand otherwise and they will thank the dictator while they are getting fucked up the ass by him (and not in a fun way), not mentioning any names but I think we all know who that refers to
>>45118168USSR was libertarian, actually. We need to bring it backYou are fed CIA lies, capitalism has failedhttps://youtu.be/4ulM7nHUSqo?is=zFUc0jdvd7yMu2ab
>>45118231>below average iq>completely ignoring the plethora of trannies in STEM fieldsme when i lie
>>45118257The small amount of stem trannies doesnt outweigh the vast masses of neet drug addicts who live in their parents basement advocating for communist
>>45118257You make a good point, it's like with indians too, they're generally a high IQ bunch on average despite the poo memes
>>45118231so why, then, should you allow the unwashed masses to choose populists to destroy their own welfare?
>>45118298Yeah what we need is a simple solution, a strong leader, you might say a Fuhrer who can impose his iron will. Surely that would work out for me because I am comfortable now therefore it follows I would also be comfortable under any future system.
>>45118322we just need more like picrel (pbuh)
>>45118270you mean those same systematically disadvantaged trannies that are utterly obliterated from fair opportunity interfacing with society because of the modern trend of ostracizing trannies from all corners of the world? Wowiee. And we should believe the collective iq is lower because?…Also, by your wording then, the general population with cissoids is more than half far lower than below average iq. By your standards trannies would still be on average, more likely to have higher iq than the comparative cissoid.
Most trannies just support functionally middle class green socialist types who, when you boil it down, will just explode the debt and mildly distort price signaling, which coincidentally is what Trump and right populists do, they just have different words for it
>>45118257STEM field =/= smart or high iq. I work in STEM and am studying it. There are many actual morons in this field. Being good at math doesn't make someone smart or wise. Even worse they may be deceived by the stereotypes that they are "smart" because they work in STEM and make uninformed stupid decisions because they believe they are smart oand don't need to seek out the truth. How could they be wrong, they have a degree in STEM after all? STEM voting block is not necessarily going to be the correct or smart choice. Also many educational institutions have a certain culture about them which may also influence voting decisions making it appear that educated people are voting some way. But sometimes it's not because they are educated but because the institution they studied at is culturally aligned with a cause/party. High IQ or highly educated people can still often vote against their own interests because propaganda works about as well across demographics. In contries with real democracy (so not the usa where it's kinda obvious what's going to happen when you elect a certain candidate nowdays) you often need to do a lot of work to figure out what actual policy a party will deliver because of all the lies in the media.
>>45118322>>45118298what you should actually do is build durable liberal democracies by building robust, professionalized public and private institutions.
Read the fucking bookCommunism isn’t lefty Naziism, you sound uneducated
>>45118424I read a book called road to serfdom and it basically said it is
>>45118394No shit STEM isn’t the de facto iq test; it’s just a nebulous metric that more often than not, draws in people with higher iq than the average. You think you find higher iq among peasants working fields compared to anyone you select from a STEM field? You would be knee capping yourself to make that assumption.It’s just more likely to encounter higher iq folk that have completed a university (most especially ones in difficult fields such as STEM).Like what the fuck is your measurement for smart / iq if it’s not recognizing that iq is a comparison among the population?
>>45118424wild how commies never have concise things to say and just tell you to read ancient, terribly written word salad with terminology nobody else uses.
>>45118168The Soviet Union was more free than the US
>>45118298Because the high and even middle castes can still vote for absolute garbage. Many people delude themselves into thinking that they are more important/better/smarter because they have more money and status. These voting blocks can also be easily harvested. Just look at how many rich twitter addicts there are.
>>45118446I read a book called simulaca and simulation and it said that you don't existso why should I believe you
>>45118417Just build robust institutions bro. It's that simple bro just make the government good bro. Instututinal behaviour is downstream from culture. If you have an entire country full of currupt oppurti istic shitheads there is no amount of institutions that can save you.
>>45118498Because when you say “read a book” you mean just read leftist social theory
>>45118449Well now you are putting a nebolous demographic that on top af neboulous IQ correlation. Okay fine I get that it's higher on average but there is now way that that difference contributes significantly to the issue at hand.
>>45118496what would be the point of letting a fraction vote? they will just use the government to extract from the restdon't strawman
>>45118236no the USSR had very weak private property laws, and you could not just do whatever you wanted on your own land. You would constantly be subject to inspections from the government and eventually seizure of anything that was yours. It was a dire place where you had to rely on food tickets to eat, rather than accumulating money and choosing what to spend it on
>>45118231> Half of all trannies are below average intelligenceTrannies are literally above average (100) IQ.
I want to live in an authoritarian state that protects trans women than in a democracy where the "majority" can vote to have me persecuted at any pointYou are an idiot otherwise
>>45118546the claim being made was>half trannies are below average iqinsinuating they’re far below the compared cissoid population (while ironically wording it as if trannies actually are still higher iq).I’m arguing that given massive tech, nerd, and intellectually stimulating circles (philosophy, engineering, computer science, medicine) are typically the norm for trannies as a baseline, they’re more often than not going to be higher iq if you compare it to cissoids. This isn’t even acknowledging how fucking autistic trannies can be at a given hobby. I’m pointing out how retarded a claim it is to peg trannies as below average iq when you know Wisconsin exists and any other third world country.
>>45118551So what if you don't want unwashed masses voting and don't want castes of people voting I assume we aren't talking about a democracy anymore? I thought you wanted to just have a smaller subset of voters because that's popular opinion nowdays. Are you advocating for a system like in china where career politicians in a single absolutely powerful party/institution run the country? I mean it's working for them so far but it wasn't easy to set that up and it's a constant struggle against corrution just like in most democracies. If you have a people disciplined enough to exist in a society like that it would work well but the same could be said of a democracy. It's hard to imagine a country like america switchi g to a system like that and maintaining its culture.
>>45118602Yea i guess. That wording is pretty real tho lol. Half of anyone is below average at anything
>>45118593Why would an authoritarian state do that?
>>45118620you can keep voting as long as the inevitably elected populists don't have too much power to fuck with the actually useful parts of the government. for example, every western democracy should have institutions that deal with specific areas of taxation and benefits instead of it just being a resource for vote buying at all levels of the government.
>>45118602For someone who is supposedly a high IQ STEM autist you sure suck at basic mathematical concepts
>>45118768Ah that. I mean they tried with the treasury being separate and so on but I get it. It could probably also help to give more power to more localized democracies like states and counties. I think people would be a lot more concerned with being part od the democratic process if they had a more personal relationship with it.
>>45118817>It could probably also help to give more power to more localized democracies like states and countiesthe opposite in factthis is how you get underfunded services in poorer districts, nimby zoning, etc.
>>45118758Why would a democratic country take away trans rights?
I wish to live in a pro-trans authoritarian state. Not a fan of being used as a scapegoat you know
>>45118768it’s more of an issue of actually holding people accountable for their actions.tl;dr - the system, unless modified, cannot work in societies of millions of people.modifying the system has a lot of problems on its own though, since no country exists in a vaccuum.
>>45118168i need someone tall and scary to tell me what to do because i'm a dysfunctional retarded faggot otherwise >///<
>>45119166i don't know what youre trying to say desu
>>45119199there is far too much happening far too quickly every single day in nation-wide politics for an individual citizen to wrap their head around it.since it’s impossible for them to wrap their head around it, they aren’t able to make an informed decision on who to vote for.what’s much worse is that this de facto separation of political reality, and the idea an individual citizen has of said political reality, creates a special class of people - politicians - who are basically removed from the population at large, and exist within their own, smaller world. this makes it so individual citizens not only cannot wrap their heads around the sheer volume and specificity of relevant information, they can’t even gain access to a significant portion of it in the first place.the information is some very high-level stuff too - how do you know if we should limit Dickfuck exports to China or not? how the fuck are you supposed to learn about Dickfuck economy and applications, when it takes years to actually get basic education in the field? how about Cuntstuffing? oh, you haven’t heard about the Cuntstuffing deal? shieeet, should’ve come to the invite-only event they’ve all been to, where that one guy floated the idea…shame you had a job to go to. and that you weren’t fucking invited, of course.
>>45119369it's almost like there are educated people who should act as formal advisors on topics like dickfuckery and cuntstuffing
>>45118878because "trans" is not a distinct category of human deserving of distinct rights others do not possess. you should count yourselves lucky you get to have your cope hrt treatments.
>>45119454i dont "get" to have hrt. people are willing to make it and sell it to me and that's the end of it
>>45119411and there are, except they aren’t advising the citizen, but the politician.the citizen is sold a short, memorable summary of the Dickfuck/Cuntstuffing situation by the politicians PR/marketing team. at best the politician makes it the central point of their campaign, and the citizen gets a slightly more detailed (albeit just as propagandising) summary.you don’t choose the advisors by the way, and it’s not like there’s consensus on things that have to be decided on - by the very virtue that there’s a decision to be made in the first place.
>>45119511>it’s not like there’s consensus on things that have to be decided onmost things that actually matter have very clear opinions by economists, climate scientists, etcas you have said most people are retarded and consume misinformation for fun, so why should they even get a direct vote on this stuff?
>>45118168because dictatorships are based
>>45119543>most things that actually matter have very clear opinionsfuck no they don’t. not to mention the decisions that are being made are a wee bit more complex than “cure all cancer” or “give everyone cancer”.even with the climate scientists example, they can at best tell you the trend that the climate is following, and what’s causing it. it’s the politicians job to manage the people and the state in such a way that achieving a certain goal dictated by the scientists’ findings doesn’t capsize the country, or cause other, more immediate kinds of damage.and there are advisors for that too, but as always some of them will advocate for sacrificing X to achieve Y more quickly, and others will say that’s suicide, because it risks Z happening.contrary to popular belief, the operations of a country of tens of millions is a fairly complex topic, not easily digestible even by entire departments.
>>45119793a carbon tax is not controversial among people who know wtf they are talking aboutsame with abolishing all tariffs, single family zoning, rent controls, etc.they only exist because they become a vote buying issue once established
>>45118168Yeah? I hate living around black people and their loud cars, loud music, and barking caged dogs that they keep in all their yards. Anyone who will crack down on and destroy their shit culture is fine by me.
>>45118257"STEM fields" its just coding. And you dont need to be smart to code, you just need to be good at memorizing shit. Also notice how its only trans women who get into coding, because they were asocial teenage boys and got into nerd hobbies
>>45118168Uhhh because its based?? Obviously?
trannies are midwits next question
>>45119872>lets just ignore trannies that are into engineering (including threads of trannies working for lockheed)>lets also ignore trannies learning how to DIY medication even so far as to cook raws, or those who enter to become doctors>No such thing as trannies in physics or chemistryCan tell you never stepped foot in college
