I'm a tranny and I can't help but love arguing with other trannies on this board! Someone start a fight about transexualism or economics below!I'll start:Rent control badAll forms of parity pricing are badYou don't need gender dysphoria to transitionFree markets provide better healthcare to tranniesRemoving red tape and medical patents will make healthcare dirt cheapYou have free will!
>>45120740RAAAAAhttps://voca.ro/1ilJqgeBm8Zj
>>45120740>about transexualism or economicsFine, I'll take my cannibal advocacy and go home.
>red tapeyeah dude let's have thalidomide 2.0>medical patentsyeah
>>45121806Trooning already is thalidomide 2.0
>>45120740Based opinions desu. I fucking hate troons screeching about dysphoria
>>45120740if you dont have dysphoria you arent trans sorry
>>45120905Emotions and environments do not control, they influence. Consciousness is immaterial.>>45124397Transitioning is the act of changing your sex/sex appearance thru medical and social procedures. Gender dysphoria is the feeling of discomfort with one's sex.While the latter often proceeds the former, their definitions are not reliant on one another. It is literally possible to transition without g.d, even if it may not be optimal.
>>45124830doing it for funsies isnt respected
>>45120740Always disappointing that all the free market trannies are transbians.
>>45120740Circumcision babies is inherently wrong and there is no real moral distinction between cutting a boys penis without consent and FGM
>>45124886Circumcising* fuck
>>45124853Its not about respect, its just the facts™. I'm not saying people who got into it for fetish reasons or anything similar are pure angels, just that judging someone for how trans they are is pointless (unless they're not doing the TRANSITION) part. Rather, these people should be judged on metrics that actually indicate their quality of character.>>45124875Wrong, I have a boyfriend that I want to grow old with. The trans points are just an objectivist assessment on what it means to be trans.>>45124886Trve
>>45120740>>I'm a trenderwe know.if you identify as trans you aren't valid.>>45124830to transition is an admission of disatisfaction with the self. if you don't experience gender dysphoria, then you wouldn't transition. the people that transition, but don't have gender dysphoria are either liars or trenders. you can'g tell me people didn't hop on the band wagon of trans like it was an alternative counter culture to conservatism. if the point of transition is to change your sex characteristics, non-ops are congruent in sex as they desist from completing the transition.transition isn't a change of wardrobe. it's srs. many of the transphobes of the left will engage in sexism as they argue someone has sufficiently changed their sex by changing their outfit. it completely undermines the empowerment of feminism. wearing pants doesn't make you a man. many of you trenders are sexist and actively engage in sex based discrimination.transgenderism is to the left as maga is to the right. you're equally as stupid and act in bad faith.
>>45124922Preexisting feelings do not change that the essence of transitioning boils down to changing your physical sex. All that needs to happen to change your sex is the undergoing of gender reassignment surgeries and hrt. The why does not change the what.>muh SRSYes this is what I'm saying. If someone does not complete their transition they are a Hermaphroditic male/female.I'd even go as far to say that until uterus/testicle transplants are possible SRS can only ever make you a enuch that presents as a man/woman.>muh bandwagonsYes these people got caught up in what we do for stupid reasons, they're the equivalent of the new years gym crowd who quit after 3 weeks.>Muh clothesI never said any of this, you should consider reading what I actually wrote instead of strawmaning Also I am not left wing.
>>45124990the what indicates the why. that's how observational biology works. saying they don't have distress from their sex designation at birth is disingenuous as wanting to change or improve something implies disatisfaction. that's gender dysphoria. i don't think you get what gender dysphoria is.>>I'd even go as far to say that until uterus/testicle transplants are possible SRS can only ever make you a enuch that presents as a man/woman.then you go on to prove my point of trenders being transphobic.you failed to rebuke the point that you don't understand the condition. you failed to prove that you aren't equally as bigotted or otherwise ignorant as your counterpart.if gender is a display of phenotypical characteristics, then gender dysphoria is the ego dystonia. the incongruence of ego and super ego wherein the id compels the individual to transition regardless. the ego sees the self as a sex designation other than their sex as observed at birth. the super ego is in conflict with the ego because the super ego is a reflection of social conditioning wherein society has told them they aren't or can never be what the ego envisions them as. the degree to which the condition is inhibitting varies.
>>45124830>emotions and environments do not control, they influence. consciousness is immaterial.https://voca.ro/1amafJ9RP44t
>>45120740OP image just made me realize an untapped category of pooner cartoons is where they look exactly the same but are gigantic, or at least bigger than troons. Pure horror
>>45120740I'll add to that:way too many fat bitches posting selfies in transbian spacesnigger fetishes are disgusting. they are violent, dimwitted and often diseased, not a thing to be glorified.idiots gloating about 'transing the kids' brought us to the current scenario. conservatives had no reason to latch onto the trans topic before that, we brought it on ourselves. why the fuck did we have to rile up redpillers to the point where they are willing to side with radfems?There's a very limited amount of 'genders', most of the exotic ones are just mentally ill ciswomen screaming for attention. Human gender is structured rigidly around a binary, this is not artificial.
>>45120740If rent controls & regulating healthcare costs are bad, then what's your grand solution to inelastic demand?
>>45120740 I don't understand why someone with no gender dysphoria would transition. Being trans is measurably worst than being cis. Why would someone do that ?
>>45120740The part that every free market fundamentalist conveniently leaves out with the invisible hand of the market is that people suffer and die as the market (hopefully, not guaranteed) adjusts to the level that enough people are able and willing to pay. They also ignore the reality that corporations effectively have skeezed their way into total control of the economy and government, so their business decisions aren't independently controlled in a way that a reasonable person can argue is fair and ethical. There are huge mergers happening every day consolidating the economy further than it was in the 1920s. Mega corporations and private equity own a LOT of the housing market specifically, which means that actual consumers have to either go through them to buy or rent OR already have money to buy (low barrier to entry for both consumers and suppliers is another inaccurate assumption of the free market fundamentalists). I'm not saying price ceilings are ideal, but I am saying the unfettered alternative that some people spew is at least as bad and exclusionary as any price control. There are countless apartments where there is no price control, consumers "technically" have the right to go elsewhere, but the free market doesn't provide any supply nor quality supply, so people are stuck with overpriced shit places to live. With rent control, it's at least not in favor of the few suppliers/owners of capital rather than the lucky few of the lower class who are locked into something they can afford.I think the better discussion is regarding direct subsidies for goods like food and fuel, cronyism, and international trade controls.
>>45126231because they can. some people e.g. autists don't have a strong perception of their own gender in the first place. living as a women, if transition is viable, is vastly preferable to living as a male autist, intrinsically.
>>45125253Gee i wonder if I can come up with any other scenarios where people may choose to transition...>If they're offered 1billion dollars>Held at gunpoint>Forced by parentsOh wait actually none of these people are injecting estrogen, getting laser, voice training and scheduling the snip because they weren't emotionally dissatisfied with their sex!Again, read the original proposition. "You don't need dysphoria to transition" is literally true, not because they're all heccing valid queens but because transitioning is something you do. Being a transgender/sexual is the identity that comes out of that action.Do most people who transition do it to alleviate gd? Yes. It is ideal that people who transition have gd beforehand? Also yes. But just having gender dysphoria does not make you a transgender, transitioning does.Thinking the former is what makes people trans is ironically what results in the most posers since you'll now have a bunch of people "identifying" with feelings that change with the wind. This backwards way of thinking is what leads to people going "well I'm mtf today but tomorrow I might be a demiboy!" Since its all based in the feeling of dissatisfaction, right Nona?>psychology gishgallopGender dysphoria is the feeling of dissatisfaction with one's sex characteristics. Transitioning is the act of changing your sex characteristics to the opposite sex. See how simple that was?>Muh transphobiaAre you retarded? I didn't know being honest about the state of medical procedures was a qualifier for being "le evil bigot." You probably don't even want the treatment to get better, since you insist on the emperor having no clothes.
>>45126268Parity prices raise the cost of goods and services all around them. This includes rent control. The modern issue with lack of supply is excessive regulations increasing the entry to building houses and apartments.>People getting "hurt" during recovery from these thingsThey are getting hurt more in the meantime while these things exist. Better to rip the bandaid off sooner than later.>businesses lobbying in the governmentYes this is a fatal flaw of government, which should also be discontinued :)>Subsidizing goodsIf you want to see where subsidizing industries gets you, I encourage you to look at the cost of higher education in the U.S. Subsidizing works very similarly to parity prices in the sense that it distorts the true wealth of a populace and causes prices to quickly readjust to a higher margin.It is also wrong from an ethical perspective, not just an economic utilitarian one, to force a price under the threat of imprisonment or murder.
>>45125655Free will is the conscious exertion of action. These are not semantics, control would mean you cannot do anything else, influence is only an inclination on the conscious to act a certain way.Yes there are lots of things that I do not have control over (as far as I'm aware I cannot stop my stomach acids from digesting foods), but what I do have control over (that 50% you mentioned) is the domain of free will.
