Even the people meant to be teaching you how to voicepass have troonvoice. I've never heard a truly wholly entirely unambiguously unquestionably cis sounding trans woman. if they do exist I'd assume its pre-puberty transition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzR59HpdZM
>>45124484also just noticed but what is even going on with the accent its like a psuedo-american australian accent
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>>45124496you dont understand what survivorship bias means I conclude that and diagnose you as retarded
>>45124495australian but autists tend to have muttified accents because they consume lots of mutt media
>>45124484touch grass and take your meds im begging you
>>45124484Voice training content as a whole just kind of sucks. Most of them just make vague claims or exercises and funnel you to their paid content. And most of them don't even voice pass either. No wonder the majority of troons don't voice pass geg
>>45124496knew some smug retard would post this reply>>45124484Honestly I've had this thought for a long time, and even a lot of trans voice coaches have clocky voices themselves. It's pretty blackpilling when a lot of voice training discords have channels dedicated to VFS.I'm still a proponent of the voicepill despite how nebulous of a process voice training can be. Having even a semi-passing or plausible voice can push people's perceptions of you from unsure to unquestionably cisgender, and I consider it to be a "1B" priority when it comes to transitioning only preceded by HRT itself. And it's one of the few things in transitioning that you are actually (somewhat) in control of.>I've never heard a truly wholly entirely unambiguously unquestionably cis sounding trans womanThey're clocky to us because we have the "tells" of a voicetrained voice. The vast majority of cis people on average aren't able to tell, and that's actually matters in practice. It doesn't need to be perfect, just good enough.
>>45124712I forgot to mention that even Ben "facts and logic" Shapiro inclines to default to female pronouns for Blair White largely in part because of her voice. There's a clip of him out there admitting to this as well despite claiming to see White as a biological male. Voicepill is that powerful
>>45124484tbdesu i always considered fairyprincesslucy to be a voicepassoid or even a voicegigapassoid, i think she's kinda based and you're just bitterhon about it
>>45124785She used to sound way worse ngl
>>45124785i think my voice sounds fine and that I have nothing to be jealous of, you are probably just a copetroon unable to recognize that a testosterone raped voice is irreperable and huffing copium that she's a "voicegigapassoid">>45124712>The vast majority of cis people on average aren't able to telltrue, everytime I tell someone i'm trans they dont initially believe me. but I dont really think that matters, I dont think passing is important, nor is the perception of cis people, just the actual fact of if something is (within human perceptibility) cis identical, which a trans voice seems to not be able to do
>>45124790i feel kinda bad for it but i find her content to be somewhat entertaining, she seems really carefree and it's such a huge contrast to the constant stream of doom and negativity i normally experience in most of the communities i frequent>>45124796her voice literally passes to normies>copetrooni mean yea, i wish i sounded like that, i got vfsrac but my resonance still sucks
>>45124796I've heard of trans women with completely cis-passing voices, although they're incredibly rare and usually confined to a particular vocal range. Most trans women could get a cis-plausible voice with current methods, but 100% cis passing definitely has some luck involved. Point being, a trans voice isn't doomed to voice purgatory. >I dont think passing is important, nor is the perception of cis peopleI somewhat agree but not every trans person gets to have this luxury
>>45124484Because it’s a male voice and biology is real
>>45124484wow great video, now I can train my voice to sound like a spastic british teenager! now I just need a tutorial on how to feminize it!
>>45124954i think she's australian
>>45124785She’s voice passing but not gigapassoid. Gigapassoid is Carmen carrrera https://youtu.be/sbnJeMegUbE?is=7KOydo2tEoYO8Grs
>>45125072wow proven wrong, first ever actual cis sounding trans woman ive seen
>>45125072>>45125106Finally a normal woman voice. She never had vfs?
When Sabre gave a voice tip, i honestly thought it was a joke
>>45124484because the anatomy is different, this is the only area where everyone suddenly pretends anatomy doesn't matter because some people can make a living on voice coachingvoice train to develop the skills and then get vfs. that's what I did
>>45125106kat blaque sounds very cis tooit's all resonancemaintaining it through intonation is the hardest part of voice training, like germanic languages are harder to girlvoice in than romance ones because of this
>>45125900also ime, for english, if you speak in received pronounciation it makes girlvoicing easieri can get away with this cuz im a bong tho
>>45124484If they never been exposed to testosterone Your voice sounds no different than their voice at 10 years old, which is very similar to female voice
>>45124484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie2MsA5suvU
yeah what the fuck is up with finnsters friend tho is that a god damn voice changer sounds real as fuck. i might be a voiceluckshit bc i autistically mimic accents of like canadians hispanics aave southern drawl and cant help it. but my language teachers always told me my foreign accents and pronunciation were surprisingly native right away. ive been singing in the car for almost a year and still havent recorded but i can definitely feel progress and am certain i can do things i couldnt even a few weeks ago. i knew i would be cringe as fuck and im gonna manmode for years so i have to time to take it slow.
>>45125072>>45125106>>45125128>cis soundingNGL, and I say this as a troon who has spent a lot of time voice training, I can still hear it. Having a voice that passes to the common person’s ear isn’t actually that hard, see the videos of guys who learned how to do it and then use it to harass people at grocery stores and gas stations. In learning how to change our own voices, and being exposed to way more trannies than the avg person ever will be, we start to hear and focus in on identifiers that other people wouldn’t notice. It’s like playing an instrument, a high school band might sound indistinguishable to a professional orchestra to the untrained ear, but someone in a highschool band will be able to tell the difference! Honestly, if you sound like a fag, but look like a cis woman, people will just assume you are a woman who sounds like a fag not a tranny. Until they know you are a tranny. Then you have a man’s voice and it will never be good enough.
whenever i ask super specific yes/no questions in these threads about common techniques or jargon you gatekeeping faggots never respond. voicethreads on this board are worthless. im gonna go ask fucking chatgpt
>>45124484>why do men have male voiceshmmm idk babe let's really think about this
