7000 dollars to an effective altruist charity is easily enough money to save a very young child’s life from malaria and lots of studies and audits show that to be the case. A couple of dollars is easily enough money to spare the life of a chicken from a lifetime of hell in a factory farm. If a man accepts he is a man instead of trying to become a woman and wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars in the process those hundreds of thousands of dollars saved can instead be used on saving the lives of dozens of children or hundreds of thousands of animals. All wasted money is murder. Now I know transgenders often do not pay hundreds or even tens of thousands of dollars out of pocket but that does not change what I said, other people must still pay for it through higher taxes, more inflation, higher health insurance costs, the cost of essential goods going up because young people decided to become transgender healthcare providing doctors instead of real life saving doctors or a truck driver or other actually useful jobs, etc. These increased costs of living on normal non delusional people caused by transgender people mean that normal people have less disposable income because of transgenders which means they have less money to donate to effective altruist charities.Transgender terrorists are stealing from you
don't you have a conservative subreddit to post this stuff on or something
>words words wordsRightards can't meme
>>45129040>100k ffs
>>45129040>A couple of dollars is easily enough money to spare the life of a chicken from a lifetime of hell in a factory farm.this is falseyou can buy animal "QALY"s pretty cheaply by donating to welfarist charities who pay farmers to treat animals marginally less abusively, but liberating chickens is harder than thatif you don't want to pay abusers to moderate their abuse, your animal charity options targeting factory farming are quite limited
>>45129040Conservatives spent decades telling people that the libruls want to send all your money to starving kids in Africa and now it's immoral to not spend all your money on AI worshipper trust funds
>>45129040I have got to start whoring out for money
>>45129040>estrogen>$2400 annuallydo endohons really? DIY is like $100 a year
>>45129091False. https://animalcharityevaluators.org/charity-review/dansk-vegetarisk-forening/https://animalcharityevaluators.org/charity-review/sociedade-vegetariana-brasileira-svb/Replaces an estimated seven meals per dollar with plant-based ones.Institutional Meat Reduction programWe estimate that this program replaces 116 animal-based meals per dollar, or spares 12 animals per dollar, equating to 10 Suffering-Adjusted Days (SADs) averted per dollar (range: 6–14).This estimate includes all institutions where the program was implemented in 2024: 111 municipal schools of Mogi das Cruzes, five municipal schools in Novo Triunfo, and 65 community kitchens in São Paulo city. It also includes the costs of the work for those achievements (in 2024 or earlier), as well as the estimated future costs to maintain these commitments.This estimate only includes meals replaced through Meatless Mondays; it does not include meals replaced through increased veg*n options at institutions, since that data is not available.An individual consumer choosing to purchase or boycott animal products is personally responsible for extra chicks being killed or spared. If you are not vegan you are personally causing this to happen to more animals here’s proofhttps://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc [Open] (Only first few minutes of this video are relevant)https://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-ishttps://wonderandaporia.substack.com/p/being-vegan-makes-a-differencehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ABKAbFUnNwU [Open]And the comments and back and forth of this for any objections you may have to the efficacy of individual boycott of real meat which have already been debunked https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/
>>45129099?>I propose a new thought experiment. >The “OP sucks cocks” thought experiment. It’s very simple. OP has to suck cocks to make everyone happy. If he doesn’t suck cocks he’s actually evil because he is actively depriving others of the joy of having their cocks sucked by him. So OP is morally obligated to suck everyone’s cocks for the rest of his life.P1. Pleasure is goodP2. Having your dick sucked is pleasurableP3. Many of our consumer purchases are morally insignificant: we could give them up without thereby sacrificing anything morally significant.Here's the symmetry breaker in your analogy. Someone can argue the suffering they'd experience from being the town bicycle is greater than the pleasure everyone else would experience from having their dick sucked.Someone can also be religious and believe dick sucking is immoral. They'd be sacrificing something morally significantP4. The rescue principle: If it is in our power to prevent something very bad from happening, without thereby sacrificing anything morally significant, we ought, morally, to do it.Therefore,C. We ought, morally, to donate to effective charities rather than making morally insignificant consumer purchases such as trans hormones
>>45129040I don't really care. It's not my job to suffer for the sake of starving children in Africa, and chickens, are you serious? Fuck off
>>45129099>I propose a new thought experiment. >The “Vlush sucks cocks” thought experiment. It’s very simple. Vlush has to suck cocks to make money. If he doesn’t suck cocks he’s actually evil because he is actively depriving others children in Africa of mosquito bed nets.P1. Saving lives is goodP2. Many of our consumer purchases and free time non money making activities are morally insignificant: we could give them up without thereby sacrificing anything morally significant.Here's the symmetry breaker in your analogy. Someone can argue they are religious and believe dick sucking is immoral. They'd be sacrificing something morally significantP4. The rescue principle: If it is in our power to prevent something very bad from happening, without thereby sacrificing anything morally significant, we ought, morally, to do it.Therefore,C. We ought, morally, to donate to effective charities rather than making morally insignificant consumer purchases such as trans hormones
Literal ChatGPT bot, lmaooooooooo
>>45129203It is your duty 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
>>45129188>>45129211Vlush does suck cocks but also she doesn't understand what any of this has to do with what she said. you're not a real person are you
>>45129158you're not telling me anything i don't already know, you're even doing the same stupid quality-adjusted-time metricmore people going vegan and more meals that don't contain corpses are good things, but those things do not directly result in specific chickens being taken out of factory farms and to places where they can live good lives. they result in fewer chickens being born. given that those chickens would have lived in hell, this is on balance good, but it is not the same as sparing the life of a chicken, which was the claim in the original post.
>>45129250>spare the life of a chicken from a lifetime of hell in a factory farmIt prevents an extra birth into hell
I don't give a damn about some loser dying in some shithole because they are too weak and incompetent to be civilized and have a functioning civilization I'd much sooner give a 20 to my local hobo But I don't do that either cause I'M POOR TOO
>>45129240Vlush was clearly trying to make a reductio ad absurdum of the OP but it doesn’t work because homosexuality and prostitution are immoral.
>>45129040you are asking for empathy from a class of people who routinely display they have none
>>45129040The angels are gonna bring out the catapult to express transit OP to hell the moment they show up at the gates
>>45129275gays, transgenders, feminists, etc have very low birth rates which destroys civilization . Straight non trans people have lower suicide, depression, hiv, etc rates
>>45129295then you’ll wakeup >>45129287
>>45129040more like faketrans john50 costs lol if you're truetrans it's just srs and hormones which are cheaper than shown
>>45129268>It prevents an extra birth into hellyes, and if you'd used this phrasing originally i'd have had less of an objectionin english, to spare one's life typically means to take someone who is already alive and prevent their death. this is not what you're buying when you donate to most charities targeting factory farming. aborting a fetus with an incurable genetic disorder that will cause painful death shortly after birth isn't "sparing a child's life", though it may still be the best option under the circumstances.even that example isn't perfect, because factory farming isn't a natural occurrence. every day, people get up and decide to keep doing that to animals. there is a real and genuine conflict here, and throwing money at projects alleviating the damage caused by the enemy is not the same thing as defeating the enemy, which has to be the real goal
>>45129306we are just because of hypergamy if you want sensitive young men you breed you have to treat them like men
>>45129040>le cost of transitioningwhy does no one point out that it’s only expensive because all healthcare is expensive when you actually display the pricetag. Start paying out of pocket and you’ll outspend a trans woman in a year.
>>45129040go donate all your money to the chickens right now and be homeless or you're a fake effective altruist
>>45129040>you should become homeless and give all your money to chickensthis is a good illustration of why effective altruism is a load of shit, thanks OP
>>45129876Transgender people cost more money because both trans and normal people go to dentist but only trans get gender affirming care >>45129947>>45129966Becoming homeless would impair your ability to make more money and help more humans and animals
this thread is proof that utilitarianism is evilKant W
>>45129040>effective altruism is when you eradicate the untermenschen rather than squander valuable societal resources mitigating the degeneracy that springs from their inferiority
>>45129040remind me how much wealth does musk have? bezos? trump? zuckerberg?
>>45130021people with cancer also cost much more than the ordinary person, why dont we just let them die since the chance is already there and send the money to africa instead of paying for the medicine? why target trans people specifically? tell us op
>>45130056>>45130252>>45130274>>45130324If you’re going to reject utilitarianism then why should anyone call men in dresses women? You do realize men in dresses who identify as women are still men right? That people are lying to you to make you feel better? Which is literally utilitarianism because lying is wrong but they assume it’ll lead to better outcomes. You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want deontology when it comes to not having to donate but utilitarianism when it comes to lying about your gender
>>45129250you should be shot in the head.i hope that ends up happening to you quite soon.
>>45131284>If you’re going to reject utilitarianism then why should anyone call men in dresses women?this has nothing to do with utilitarianism and it's not a lie either
>>45129040>7000 dollars to an effective altruist charity is easily enough money to save a very young child’s life from malariakids with malaria are niggers. NOT saving them is objectively a good thing for the moral progress of civilization.also your existence is a hindrance as well.vegans are the disease.
Vfs 6k Cost me $35 for a years supply vial of een subq injections also dont need AA when taking mono E lmao OP is retard right wing benchud.ba 6ksrs (orchi included) 30kFFS 40k MAXRib countouring 15kLipo to butt/hip/breast 20kElectro is 2k for whole body MAX most laser places rip people off. Ivf and sperm storage means you arent trans so non-cost.These are all MAX out of pocket prices, transing is like 10% of what OP posted
>>45129056sharteens got angry about some shit on their site and have been posting a ton on here in the last few days, it'll die down again
>>45130021>only trans get gender affirming carebut cis women and men also get gender affirming care?
>>45131533>Electro is 2k for whole body MAXOn what fucking planet
>>45131284because you want to?nobody has to call anyone anything
Thanks OP, just wanted to let you know that I follow your logic and buy HRT for trans kids so that they don't need all these surgeries to fix consequences of a wrong puberty
>>45131809anywhere not in burgeristanburgersitan is basically griftlandistan. everything, even stupidly cheap shit is trubo expensive because burgers are goycattle who are afraid to take a flight to literally anywhere else and get what they want or need.
>>45131836Child abuser>>45131822Bullshit. Transgender terrorists sue businesses and get people fired for not lying to them
>>45131922You are a larper and do not know what you are talking about. EAs are overwhelmingly trans and it's a common knowledge.Child abuse is denying trans kids trans healthcare and mutilating them with wrong puberty. Good thing there's me to help
>>45131921It's over 10k in my country lol
>>45131922I'm suing you right now for this bs, you better get your lawyer ready!
>>45129040Did they let you out of your padded cell for good behavior today or what? Are you going to cry because I spent a whopping 2 dollars on a pastry today?
>>45129040This is beyond retarded. First of all 99.9999% of trannies will never get any of that shit done, and the idea of HRT costing $2000 a year is fucking hilarious
>>45129229I can transition and help the weakest. Not zero sum.
>>45129040don't care, still spending money on my trans gf so she can be the perfect dickgirl she thrives to be.
>>45129040nigga my injections are less than 1/10 the price this claims
>>45129188>We ought, morally, to donate to effective charitiesAnd morally you need to suck cocks since I personally deem your discomfort as less valuable than combined pleasure from your potential actions
>>45131284Why should anybody call incubators people? Or cotton picking niggers 'human'?
>>45129229Why do you own a phone? Starving jews in new york city could have eaten that money. Don't you think that's more important than you personally possessing modern electronic luxeries?
