Am I a bad therapist because I drop any parient who mentions "Bambi Sleep" without telling them why?Most of the people I know who follow a similar rule
how many patients do you and your therapist friends know who have mentioned bambi sleep?
I've never used bambi sleep and I kind of tune out any mention of it here but since I'm not showing up until after work in about....20 hours, I might as well bite: what the hell is it actually? Some kind of hypno audio file brand? And based on the posts I've seen that mentioned it...I can't entirely blame you. Nothing quite screams "I'm doing this solely to get my rocks off" like openly saying you listen to hypno kink stuff to...idk, play pretend with gender dysphoria. I didn't need nudging or reinforcing from anyone, this shit came out of me and I only realized what it was when I went offline for a long time and escaped all the hype and fearmongering around gender.
>>45130722It's okay to be a bad therapist and let your clients be handled by someone more equipped to deal with them.
>>45130722>therapist on 4chan>anime reaction gif from giphy>multiple irl patients who use bambi sleep real
>>45130722Good girls goon to sissy hypno! Sissy hypno is love! Sissy hypno is life!!!!
>>45130868>see sign on wall>"Warning! Angry bees inside the hole!">guy sticks his cock in and demands treatment when he gets stungIt gets tiring after the fourth time
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>I love doing therapy but I would never ever talk to someone a bit weird with unusual problems!>bring me another normal white woman to put on ssris!
>>45130925this
>>45130925weird people deserve to be ostracized, yes
>>45130963kinda funny for you to say that here
>>45130925>stop putting your cock into a bee hive>"no">Wtf why does nobody wanna treat me??
>>45131017I don't really get the metaphorimagine if you went to the doctor and the doctor was like "Am I a bad doctor because I drop any patient who mentions "Putting My Cock In A Beehive" without telling them why?"like yeah you're a bad doctor
>>45130900true but that person obviously fucking needs help and your job is to help people in situations like that who need helpyou're the bee sting treatment expert but you're refusing to treat people with bee stings
>>45131195Why can't you just stop doing it
>>45131219stop doing what?
>>45131239Putting your dick in the bee hive
>>45131266I don't see the connection between that and bambi sleepbut more importantly a doctor won't refuse to treat a patient of self inflicted harm
>>45130722based
>>45130722The average bambi sleep listener mogs the average 4chan transgender into the ground. Slutty and naturally submissive cisfoids who are living life to the fullest in their barbie worlds vs introverted self-hating tranny pickmes who make shitty larp threads. It's not even a contest.
>>45131283"I swear by Apollo Healer, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture.To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine with him; to consider his family as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they want to learn it, without fee or indenture; to impart precept, oral instruction, and all other instruction to my own sons, the sons of my teacher, and to indentured pupils who have taken the Healer's oath, but to nobody else.I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[4] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets.Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me"
>>45131283>a doctor won't refuse to treat a patient of self inflicted harmIf the patient refuses to stop listening to Bambi shit, then there's nothing the doctor can do. They can't force them to stop. And there are no pills to make the person stop. Turns to a waste of time.
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>>45131762why are you assuming that's why the patient is in therapy?
>>45131762The issues goes way beyond the individual patient
>>45130859>what the hell is it actually?A set of audio hypnosis files designed to turn the listener into a obendient submissive bimbo named Bambi who responds to trigger phrases automatically. What sets it apart from other such files is that it somewhat insidiously makes use of gaslighting, suggestions of addiction and permanence, and implanting an alternate personality that is supposed to, with enough repeated listening, eventually 'take over'. Especially the gaslighting part is dangerous because the creator of BS tricks the listener into mentally consenting to less extreme premises in the beginning and then later during deep trance, when they're the most vulnerable, introduces concepts that people normally would not be okay with.
>>45130722I don't get what the issue you have with bambi sleep is here. I agree that it is cringe as hell, but what is the reason you drop them exactly? You seem to be implying it is some form of self harm that the person refuses to stop doing. Is that what they came to you for? Do they want to stop listing to sissy hypno but just refuses to? Post your degree faggot. >>45132009This is a very pro bambi sleep take, and in that way it is accurate. Babmi sleep is cringe early sissy hypno that was posted around as a sort of meme at the time, but also, the people who liked it *really* liked it and talked about it and reposted it a lot and remixed it and all that shit. It's kind of like an open source brand. I don't think the original person who made it makes it anymore.
>>45132009>the creator of BS tricks the listener into mentally consenting to less extreme premises in the beginning and then later during deep trance, when they're the most vulnerable, introduces concepts that people normally would not be okay withIn all fairness, this type of hypnosis have almost always served as the foundation of the erotic hypnosis scene by facilitating sexual conditioning, eroding inhibitions and boundaries, implanting post-hypnotic triggers, and increasing the listener's rapport and suggestibility to future hypnosis.The problem is that Bambi does this + several other equally amoral methods which makes the issue much more apparant
>>45132084>I don't think the original person who made it makes it anymore.they do lol. they go by bambi prime and actlly remade the original series with better ai tts, script and binaurals last year or so. the new ones are much stronger than the old stuff
>>45132084>This is a very pro bambi sleep takeI would hardly call that description "positive" let alone defending it in the first place>cringeSmoking cigarettes is cringe as well but I am not going around telling people that nobody have ever been harmed from them because of it
>>45130722why not help them instead of dropping them do your job…
>>45130722No, that's based. I hope you refer all the faketroons to electro shock therapy
>>45131848You don't believe that claiming a tape turned them into a submissive sissy, is the problem that got them seeking for therapy?
>>45130722This is a real thing that happened.
wait, did Bambi Sleep make me trans?
>>45130722The only thing your doing wrong is not telling them why. You are a coward. Let them know that shit isn't something that should be tolerated, let alone pandered to in s professional health care setting.
>>45132266>she doesn't know what happened last time
>>45130722bro wtf is Bambi sleep
>>45132443>>45132009
>>45132294I assume most people who use it aren't in constant mental health crises over it people can have all sorts of real problems
>>45132501>I assume most people who use it aren't in constantWell, yeah the ones who don't wanna leave it. Doesn't change the situation for the rest
>>45132009concepts such as?I am failing to grasp why someone engaging in some hypno kink would cause harm
>>45132314i mean... like 10 years ago i seem to remember trans stuff on the internet being very intertwined with sissy fetish shit or at least if you were looking for trans related stuff at some point you'd come across the fetishising and the sissy shit. Not necessarily that it 'turned you trans' more so it could be that engaging in it was an unfortunate byproduct of learning trans stuff on the internet in the 2010s and late 2000s
>>45132084>>45132583it's literally not even "sissy" hypno, the user is always treated as a woman
>>45132593i thought thats what sissy stuff was? like a perverted fantasy of 'ooh i could be a woman for agp reasons'
>>45132599no, sissy hypno is just shitty porn that tells you to crossdress and jerk off or whateverit's a completely different genre
>>45132607so what exactly is making bambisleep so harmful? is it like porn addiction or something? And also i thought hypnosis was a fluke that doesnt really work unless youre very very mentally invested and *want* stuff to happen
>>45132009>who responds to trigger phrases automatically.What exactly are those phrases? I want to clock bambimoders.
>>45132616yes, you have to want it to happen. You intentionally practice going into a trance while listening to it to try to make it workthis is a good list of the risks >>45132009>What sets it apart from other such files is that it somewhat insidiously makes use of gaslighting, suggestions of addiction and permanence, and implanting an alternate personality that is supposed to, with enough repeated listening, eventually 'take over'. Especially the gaslighting part is dangerous because the creator of BS tricks the listener into mentally consenting to less extreme premises in the beginning and then later during deep trance, when they're the most vulnerable, introduces concepts that people normally would not be okay with.
>>45132636>yes, you have to want it to happenYes, in the same way that women who are roofied wanted it to happen by leaving their drink unattended and drinking it anyways
>>45132636honestly, i am failing to understand why this is so bad. Potentially it might be cause my brain is very ok with seperating porn and sexual deviancy stuff from my day to day. I am guessing this is something that becomes a problem for people who either can't or choose not to have that seperation like those people who are ridiculously into gooning and its all they want to do. I guess it is something that if you're prone to it becomes an addiction? I am also not qutie understanding the alternate personality thing, is it like a strange perverted tulpa? >implanting an alternate personality that is supposed to, with enough repeated listening, eventually 'take over'^^ also very confusing to me how you can have a personality that is not your own created.are these people like pervy sleeper agents where after a certain phrase they go full kgb sissy
>>45132657it's more like putting roofies in your own drink for fun
>>45132662>honestly, i am failing to understand why this is so badit's not
>>45132555>making bambi unable to resist any commands>making bambi want to dress slutty in public>making the OS (old self) forget about the content of sessions>replacing the os with the bambi identity permanently>making bambi enjoy teasing and torturing the os>making bambi want to get fake-looking breast implants and lip filler
>>45132704i seriously do not understand how you could listen to some audio hypno stuff and construct a whole new personality that is not you and then get rid of the you within yourself that is surely a spell anyone could break at any time. If bambisleep was popular where are all the bimbofied trannies named bambii say all this out of pure and utter confusion. I need a full illustrated example or something
>>45132665If they were disguised as ice cubes and the guy who gave them decided to molest you while unconscious then yesThen again, you don't seem to have much issue with changing the definition of the word hypnosis to make it sound more harmless
>>45132731I mean... wasnt there some tripfag from this board who went by bambi for a while and made bnw race fetish edits of herself? I forgot her name.And the identity things is really not that cray when you consider that normal people change their personality all the time based on what media they consume or what people they hang out with. For most people its just a more natural and subconscious process instead of an intentionally orchestrated one. Altho for many non-bambi trannies learning to identify as women is also kind of an intentional process. It takes a while for the brain to adapt but its definitely possible
>>45132763maybe I am too autistic to understand this properly.>And the identity things is really not that cray when you consider that normal people change their personality all the time based on what media they consume or what people they hang out with. For most people its just a more natural and subconscious process instead of an intentionally orchestrated one. It takes a while for the brain to adapt but its definitely possiblethis does help me understand this a bit better thank youI guess it's kind of like self imposed mind fuck for gooner reasons >Altho for many non-bambi trannies learning to identify as women is also kind of an intentional process. I mean is this not kind of different? Besides working through whatever internal stuff stops you from viewing yourself in that perspective isnt a lot of i guess that personality identity changing stuff mostly learning new social rules and how to fit into different types of social situations
>>45132763Im sure if you held a bambi at gunpoint and asked her what her 'real' name was, she would be able to remember her os' name, but you could argue the same about transwomen who are functionally different people from their pretrans selves
>>45132731The human personality, and by extension the mind, is notoriously flexible and elasticWorth keeping in mind a lot of the files (especially the early ones in the playlist) aren't necessarily for the "hard" stuff. They exist to build rapport, make the listener lower their mental guard, make them feel comfortable about the prospect of being hypnotized, help them getting into trance, help them getting deeper into trance and associating hypnosis (and listening to the playlist by extension) with positive emotions or arousal in order to make them come backThe harmful or amoral things people are discussing normally does not happen until the very last when the listener is at their most vulnerable, have almost all of their mental guards disarmed and are at their most susceptible At the very end a lot of them are also designed to trigger amnesia for everything said during trance in order to prevent the listener from considering what happened when out of trance
>>45132807>I guess it's kind of like self imposed mind fuck for gooner reasonsKeep in mind a lot of people (mostly cis women) are also into this at order of their dom or boyfriend. And most of them don't know anything about hypnosis or Bambi except what they have been told in order to lower their guard or build rapportSo there is also an element of abuse here
>>45132807No, self-identity is different from social etiquette. What I mean is when trannies cant help but see themselves as men (e.g. cis men on hrt)
>>45132834ok so it is like how an abuser wears you down in order to take advantage?
>>45132862oh you mean the like deprogramming the learnt ways of thinking? As in bambisleep stuff is like reprogramming your thought patterns?
>>45130722I've liked hypnosis and ASMR content for a long time but it's something of an acquired taste. I don't experience the "asmr tingles" and find hypnosis to be more of a "guided meditation" experience than the mind control is usually billed as. Are there really people who experience hypnosis as some kind of powerful thing? and they aren't merely pretending?
>>45130722youre not a therapist, you are a fat balding incel
>>45132872There are people who do that but the Bambi series as a whole is not really suited for that (aside from a few files)Eg. one of the files exists explicitly tries to make the person addicted to the feeling of being hypnotized by their SO while also making it harder for them to go against what they say. Assuming it goes through, I think you can guess the outcome With Bambi it's more like you are grooming an (adult) woman into building an alter-ego who is an codependent, submissive glorified slave whose entire identity is built around being subservient and being subject to anything sexual you do to herEssentially think of it like two identities fighting over one body. On one end it can be a fun little play hidden in the bedroom that only comes up when both people consent and which you both can go back from at any time, on the other end of the scale the "slave" personality will try relentlessly bully, coerce and dominate the other personality for control with the goal of them eventually being "snuffed" out or otherwise severely supressed>45132874Thought patterns is one theme often seen but it's not what all the files are about Treat it more like an eat-what-all-what-you-can buffet of files with various purposes, conditions and effectsEach file is a dish and the final playlist is the dinner plateSorry for going on so long but it's a bit of an interest of mine
