>>45188798
take your HRT, retards

>>45188881
hrt is just hair and skin medicine that also gives you gyno; i think i'd rather just take fin and min so i can get some of those benefits without the drawbacks

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>>45189143
it's just medication i smear on my skin
i am bald

I wonder if anyone fetishizes reppers.

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i accept being a freak and i like it now, i no longer believe there was some alternative path where i become a normal man with a wife and kids, i was always a weirdo. so thats what ill be until i die.

>>45189601
i'm sure there are
i mean some people like eating shit

Kill me

>>45189763
isn't eating shit a humiliation thing though-bee-it

>>45189739
I need a poonrepper wife at this point. We need to be losers together.

im covered in bugs and roaches and everything awfiul how how how how how do get rid of this shit all over me i want to rip my skin off epilating doesnt work shaving doesnt fuckign work i dont have the money to buy nair or wax every week or spend 20k on laser or electrolysis am i just stuck looking like a hideous ape forever why why why why why what the fuck am i supposed to do about body hair what the fuck why is god so fucking cruel why am i just a monkey to be laughed at while he pathetically tries to pantomime a woman what the fuck is the point of it all

>>45190844
God gave you hair to stay warm...totally...

qott: pretty good ngl,
4chan lgbt server for friends:
https://discord.gg/lostcord

>>45190844
You can circumvent nature because you have a human brain.

been out as ftm since 2018 and still too scared to start hrt. im even more scared now that i've been working as a barmaid for two years. they all think i'm a cute girl with a boy's name. i'm the events manager, they'll all notice if my voice drops. am i just meant to rep forever?

>>45190848
I'd rather just have hair on my head and have to rely on that to keep me warm

>>45190927
>am i meant to just rep forever?
No one truly knows, not even you but you'll figure it out at some point. I decided I will rep forever because I will never be able to see myself as a woman and passing is just not a possibility for me. It can be as simple as that, or something more complex. So you're not out to those people but you're out to your family I'd assume? If they like you already they may not give much of a shit if you transition but who knows.
It's good to have you here. The femrepgen dies too fast :( we need to let the refugees in.

Are reppers the philosopher kings meant to rule society? (The answer is yes)

I guess it's most convenient to femrep. 4'11" and 80lbs. I'm never gonna pass. At least like this I get tipped.

>>45191156
How are they fit to rule? Most of us are emotional wrecks.

>>45191221
muslim new world order sissy-posting is a psyop

Is there something realistic that would get you to stop repping? i dont mean something like shrinking 4 inches in height but something like, idk being able to afford all the surgeries that are available to trans people?

is dying a repressor better than the alternative?

>>45191378
i would stop repping if i had the financial security and independence to move far away, live largely in solitude, and afford every little stupid procedure to my heart's content

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If you are going to john 50 i think you should at least consider taking care of your skin. Wearing sunscreen and what not. Ive seen the timelines of old transitioners and one of the worst parts is that they just let their skin age in a very masculine way, and they would look significantly better had they taken care of their skin imo.

One of the hardest things about repping (though im not really a repressor) is not knowing what the social element of transitioning is like. It would be one thing not to know what you would look like, but trying to assess whether I could take the new social reality of being a trans person is another element that adds complexity to the issue. Trans people are really strong. I really dont need to give people another tool to bully me, ive always been a dork.

>>45191445
You mean living in a sparsely populated rural area? because that is a lot more doable than living in the woods like Ted Kaczynski or an island or whatever hypothethicals people normally bring up.

I really thought i had gotten over this, but then i saw the timeline of a woman who looked very masculine before ffs and after she got it, she looks great, so it was some hopefuel but then i started to, like last time, consider how even interacting with well meaning people would be awkward, how i would probably get bullied and how the stress from all the new social interactions would make the stress of it all not worth it. And anyway I dont understand why I, a cis man, wish I could get facial feminization surgery.

Probably the best way i could get some form of closure would be if I just accepted that ill never be truly happy but that its not really my fault. But ofc it would be at least to some extent my fault if i choose not to do anything about my pseudo dysphoria.

I lost

>>45191572
me too
i want to die so badly
why do i keep fucking everything up

>>45191451
social transition is neurobiologically impossible for me. I'm like seven layers removed from the strata of female sociability.

>"outcast among outcasts" aging loser deadbeat (I am here)
>autistic loser men
>nerdy men
>normie men
>socially fluid / attractive men
>autistic women
>normie women
>normie women meta layer / intrasexual competition layer

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>>45191483
> Ted Kaczynski really is such a tragic case. I relate to him in many ways. Severe Gender Dysphoria which you are too ashamed to talk about to even a therapist, close friend, etc, to the point where you feel as if you must recluse yourself from society. I also feel as if his radical ideology stemmed from a coping tactic of needing to be the man to change the world in order to justify not transitioning. It is something I have had bouts of feelings about in the past as well.

Kaczynski was the ultimate tragic repchad, and my beautiful queen.

>>45191451
> trying to assess whether I could take the new social reality of being a trans person is another element that adds complexity to the issue.
I could cope with the fact I'd be an extremely tall woman if I could pass in other ways (I have a pretty round face for example) but actually being SEEN as 'trans' is far scarier then the actual physical changes for me. Transphobia is the main reason I rep.

>>45188798
>QOTT
I only had tiny gyno buds for a brief period as a young teenager and I still miss them terribly.

I don't think it's even possible for things to change

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an easy way to instantly repfuel yourself when you see pinkpilling and sissifying shit is to imagine in your minds eye that its said by lord voldemort to professor snape (you)
>think about it, what normal wizard would be obsessed with these fantasies?
>its not something you can choose. your father was a muggle after all
>one day you will grow old and ugly. only i can stay alive forever.
>drop for cock severus, you are my faithful and loyal servant

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i have boytits even after losing a ton of weight. Guess they are here to stay

>>45188798
Can you still be a repper if you're on hrt but have no intention to dress feminine in public or use she/her pronouns whatsoever and just live normally as a man?

A culture that's so autistic about masculinity and femininity that it's impossible to take any of it seriously, especially in the Trump strongman era

>>45191937
no that's called manmoding

its not fair that people get to transition and live their best lives

womanhood is a divine experience I'll be rewarded with after finishing my punishment on earth <3

>>45191977
Imagine being this delusional

>>45188798
POLAND MENTIONED

Internet ruined life for bottom 60% of men. They say it's just natural selection. But in nature failed males would die quickly instead of suffering for 60+ years. We don't die, instead we're forced to wageslave for decades.

>>45192015
This is all that being a woman or being feminine is about to most of you and it's fucking pathetic

>>45191947

>>45191976
very true, but you will probably leave to live your best life in like a week so stfu

>>45192060
>but you will probably leave to live your best life in like a week so stfu
my mom still thinks its all bullshit and wants to go to the doctor to "verify" if its real

>>45188798
>rep
>think it’s going well
>randomly see Hunter Schafer in some movie
>wow so hot
>instantly think “I wish I could transition like that”
>agp/agamp thoughts overwhelm me
>can’t stop the thoughts
>only thing that works is cooming to tranny porn where I pretend I’m the trans girl
>thoughts calm down

what even can be done about this anons?

the only things i can feel are rage, jealousy, and sadness

evil world

>>45192125
congrats on being out to your mom and going to a doctor to get diagnosed? that's already way more than I will ever do, you're progressing fast

>>45192382
>and going to a doctor to get diagnosed?
i hope so but my mom is religious and has religious friends so im scared that she is going to take me to some shitty fake doctor that is going to tell me that its all just a phase

>>45192151
Stop fapping to shit that pinkpills you?

>>45192412
if that happens just play along like he's convincing you and then DIY behind her back after her guard is down

>>45192422
>DIY
i dont have a job and my mom doesnt support me buying medicine illegally from random websites

>>45192418
It’s the only thing that makes the tranny thoughts go away

>>45192451
steal her stuff and sell it on ebay if necessary

even my dreams are dying at this point, everything just feels completely devoid of any hope

>>45192452
It's probably the main thing that causes them, actually. For me at least. Every time you orgasm to visions of being a sexy tranny, youre training your brain to associate being a tranny with pleasure. How that induces intrusive thoughts and addiction should not be surprising.

But also the other big thing is hanging out with trannies, talking to trannies online etc. If you have to keep reminding yourself of the existence of sexy trannies living their best life every day when you look at your phone or hang out with your friends, youre gonna have a problem.

>>45192475
I’m not going out of my way to see them

>>45192015
what am I when I jerk off to the thought of being a tranny getting fucked? is this normal as a straight dude?

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>>45192564
It's normal.

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>>45192569

>>45191923
oof based snape

>>45191483
>rural area
>independence
wat
in a rural place people will drive you insane with petty drama and over judgemental attitude uncle ted had it right not associating with anyone

>>45191730
he didn't have gid he was abused by his parents which he talks about himself

>>45190522
>>45189601
the equivalent is wanting to fuck random helpless animals or torture them

>>45189251
was this loser confirmed to be from the threads

will losing weight and exercising make me happier

>>45190927
You can low dose T and train your voice to remain feminine but that's just shunting the problem of having to show changes eventually. There's no good way to deal with it, you just have to take a leap into faith and let them see the changes.
>>45191203
Brutal
>>45191976
Shut up you're 18 just transition already and gtfo
>>45192015
>>45192042
I don't think the bottom 60% of men all have repper thoughts. In fact I don't even think there's a weak correlation.
>>45192451
Get a job, HRT costs a few hundred dollars which you can easily get in a few months
>>45192703
Qrd?
>>45192716
A little bit but it won't cure your dysphoria

Once again committing to my thought of coming out to my parents during winter break. I may as well get it out of the way before attempting suicide.

>>45191378
Magic button to select genitals and boobs at will
...realistically, having a feminine essence I guess
>>45191706
Trvthnvke
I don't even have tranny socialization or autist socialization
>>45192475
I have a slight panic attack when I interac t with a tranny I'm not friends with and have acclimated to

>>45188798
I have agp and I am mostly fine with being a guy and talking to women has helped allot of the feelings go away but I still get the urge to be a girl or at least to be perceived as one and it has been flaring up more recently it has actually made me want to tell a guy in a server im in that im a tranny which I dont even think I am really because its just agp and it is very fleeting idk how can I get over this because obviously im not a girl so...

>>45192738
>it won't cure your dysphoria
I was thinking being skinny and having a prettier body would at least ease it a little bit

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>>45190927
>out as ftm since 2018 and still too scared to start hrt
man poons really are in their own world

>>45192716
yeah

>>45192703
I mean, I would probably say that too if I wanted people to take my manifesto seriously

>>45192716
I've never been fat because I basically just don't gain weight (my gigantic bones make up for it dw) but I have tried doing daily cardio for a multi month period a couple times. It makes your body feel "healthier" like you have more energy and stuff, but it didn't make me hate it any less. If anything I was just paying attention to it more which made it worse. Making it healthier seemed kinda pointless and not worth the effort so I just stopped.

I wonder if any FTMs saw the hulk transform and thought "yeah that's what I want"

>>45192763
Same honestly. I would troon out, (even though I'm tall af, my physic shockingly looks feminine) but at the same time I don't know if I ideologically align with most trannys.

I really can't stand most socialists/lefties over the years and even though I'm not really for facism, lefties are easily the most infuriating people ever. So being a troon and being hated by both sides would just be a fucking hassle to deal with.

Plus adapting to the female lifestyle would be fucking annoying to deal with and some weirdos might molest me in a public area or some shit and I'd probably detran anyway because my boner doesn't work anymore as I realize I just did it for my AGP.

Still, it might still be worth it. I might still take hrt just to because a femboy or something. I hate having a male physic even tho I know I'm probably just falling for the Pharma propoganda.

>>45192750
> I don't even have tranny socialization or autist socialization
I feel like I got... no socialization. My parents effectively left me to fend for myself in regard to the personality forming. I guess I'm grateful for that, to a degree. Because I am certainly not explicitly male socialized.

>>45191378
The disappearance of systemic transphobia. I could justify being trans if it didn't mean throwing all aspirations I have to the gutter in exchange for satisfaction with my body (which will never be total, due to giga height). Delusions of grandeur or something

>>45192451
> doesnt support me buying medicine illegally from random websites
I won't lie you fry me a little bit because we are the same age and yet are so different lol. who cares if she supports you? Either get a job or find some other way to make money. If you have ANY sort of experience with comp-sci related stuff (or just want to lie on your resume) I have had some friends who have worked for HandshakeAI and it's basically free money, you do like AI training. So you basically just sell your soul and contribute to the world's collapse but you get like $20-40 an hour doing jack shit. It's boring asl though.

>>45192765
I feel the same way. I need to work on losing weight soon, I had lost it for a bit but then dysphoria hit heavy and I ate my sorrows away for a while, oopsie! I feel like it will help quite a bit. I shaved my beard off and seeing my face be a bit more androgynous has helped me justify repping a lot more and has helped my mental state a bit, even though I look so much worse without it.

>>45192846
> even though I'm tall af, my physic shockingly looks feminine
same

> I hate having a male physic
I will shed thousands of tears of joy the day people realize most people's "AGP" is a downstream effect of gender incongruence, and not the cause of dysphoria in most cases. Although actual AGP people exist they are very very obvious fetishists.

>>45192846
Honestly part of my problem is that I get these waves where I want to experience being a woman and everything that goes with it and not even in a sexual setting while doing it and that is my form of AGP anyway but im a man I think like a man too (even though I can very easily act likr a girl online) this has been something I have been dealing with for decades now so I think I can keep managing it and I wont ruin my life because of a fetish and im not a tranny but I do like it when people refer to me as a girl so idk really how to get over this long term

>>45192862
decades as in since I was like 9? I remember dreaming about being body swapped into a woman and it has been a recurring fantasy for years and it has just matastisized since then and im now in my mid 20's

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>>45192846
I remember when I was a retard teenager like you who just did nothing until I turned into a linebacker ogre beast forever
fuck you (me) retard I absolutely loathe you (me)
but anyway ideology is all fake and jewish and there are no twitter sides in real life and you're just alone anyway in the end, you will learn this

I didn't get as wasted as I intended to this halloween, shame
oh well, there's always this weekend for no reason

I'm 33 and I feel 75 I swear.

I'm the 23yo MAN who feels 33

why did I have to be so enormous? this is just unfair

>>45192862
Yeah, I can't imagine my personal life being sterotypically feminine or in much of a female role at the end. For me it's just sexual shit then it ends after I nut. Socially and monetarily it's too much a hassel plus everyone that knew you now thinks you're the faggot in the family.

>>45192882
Nta but absolutely so much this
It scares me and I am trying to not let "ideology" overtake me and just focus on doing what I know is the truth deep down
>>45192849
I feel like I have a bit of male socialization despite it all, but the loner excluded type, not the type to have real or stable friends. Like "negative" socialization in a sense if that makes sense.
>>45192846
>>45192763
Why do we have brown psyoppers in here? Is Mossad that desperate now?

>>45192913
I can fantasize about it but yeah I couldnt imagine having any feminine role or life either in reality but I dont get my release by performing sexually as a woman in these fantasies if that makes sense? either way I take on a male role when i talk to girls so if I get a gf things might change who knows

Is it possible to suddenly get like a few inches of shoulder bone growth over like 6 months at the age of 20? Or did I just fuck up by deciding to touch upper body at the gym (and it will atrophy eventually)

>>45192915
It really sucks when I vent about a problem I have been struggling with for years for it to be called a jewish psy op lmao

>>45192924
Dysphoria warps your perception of your body. Your shoulders aren't growing

>>45191995
Nta but I have that hope as well

>>45192933
Well the spook is that I started going to the gym 6 months ago and made a bunch of beginner gains on my biceps and triceps (I realize now that it does in fact make your upper body look bulky... probably should have done back instead. Gains though.)
Thanks for the reassurance though

>>45192925
Nobody with AGP ever considered being a femboy to cope with it. It simply doesn't work. Pretending to be a girl online and feeling no gender incongruence in real life just points to you being an attention whore.
For "struggling" with this for "decades" your thoughts are relatively shallow regarding the issue, and hardly well-formed. It just seems like it isn't that big of a deal for you. It also seems like you just want a gf.

>>45192946
I didnt say I want to be a femboy? that is another anon and I feel almost detatched from my online persona when I do it like its a seperate person I can control and I have been getting off to the idea to being a girl for more than a decade actually which is texbook agp

>>45192042
>talks about men
>"Why are you talking about women like this?"
It's important to remain humble and be grateful for all the the good things we have in each of our lives. I have this feeling though that being a low value man is an atrocious fate. Not saying it can't be changed, but until it changes (if it ever changes) you are straight up denied personhood.

also it is consistently the only thing I actually get off to and I think about it daily but yeah I have a very "shallow" view of it

Im not claiming I have gender dysphoria I probably dont I just dont know what can actually help me get over whatever it is I have

>>45192569
Cis women don't want to have a rapebeast body, but cis men do want to have an angel body.

>>45192853
What's the difference between an AGP person and a gender incongruent person? I'm willing to owe 50% of the cause of my dysphoria to AGP itself. The earliest experience I had with it was at 4 years old.

>>45192806
why would you go back to repping if you already had a lynn conway tier path in your youth in a country where it's easy clearly it was not his calling
even independent psychologists have mostly called him a schizo not gid

I'm back to jerking off every day and I don't like it. I will either have to accept this, go crazy from the dysphoria, or become a highly masculinized man just so I can find love.

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>>45192973
> What's the difference between an AGP person and a gender incongruent person?
Gender incongruence is the legitimate and actual incongruence between your brain and body. It has been studied and proved that transitioners and reppers alike have more similar brains to that of their claimed gender. I would define purely AGP people as cissexuals who have a fetish for being a woman or a trans woman (GAMP). See picrel for a good anecdote of what an actual AGP is like. Julia Serano (and likely others, but I am familar with her) theorize that AGP-like tenancies crop up from gender incongruence. I have had my own more specific theories as well I have posted elsewhere on here.

> The earliest experience I had with it was at 4 years old.
At four years old, do you seriously think you were a genuine pervert getting sexually aroused at the thought of being a woman? Or have you retrofitted those memories to fit how you see your gender dysphoria now? I would argue it's probably the latter.

>>45193016
Same. I'm jerking off twice a day (Which isn't much but I'm doing it all day for hours).

The temptation to transition is pretty high rn. I have no clue why I feel semi-normal for weeks but then it spikes and I feel like death.

>>45193016
I hate being aroused so much that I just do it for the utility of getting it to go away. What level of cooked is this?

the comeback from week long agp euphoria feels like hitting a concrete floor when one by one the circumstances of your real life come into picture again for the millionth time

>>45193019
nta but there was not retrofitting of memories it was sexual but pure feminine bliss untainted by testosterone

>>45193019
Well I always had minor, passing thoughts about what it would be like to be female. But those really didn't happen that much especially outside of the erotic context. It wasn't until this year where I got hit with identifiable gender dysphoria, where it dominated 100% of my headspace and did bring me psychological and emotional pain. I don't believe I have a female brain or inner essence. My brain/essence is disgustingly and undeniably that of an autistic moid. That's why I believe I'm cis, and why I will rep forever. I have executive dysfunction and doing normal human things is already hard enough, I don't wish to keep up a gendered performance 24/7 just to prove to the world and especially myself that I'm a woman. I think cis man with AGP is a more accurate descriptor for me than trans. I think I'm just fucking retarded because I'm not sure my dysphoria wouldn't be at this level if it weren't for the internet. I don't know why I keep coming back to this board. On one hand it's nice to have people you can relate to. On the other, this place is miserable. If I just woke up, smelled the roses, and made something of my life maybe I wouldn't want to be another gender.
>do you think you were a genuine pervert
Not at that age, no. But I would be lying if I said I haven't had perverted fantasies throughout my life. According to my mom, my father watched porn. Maybe I was exposed to it somehow and just don't remember? That's another thing for me. I truly believe 90% of this stuff is just external factors fucking us up.

>>45192814
>I've never been fat
I used to be skinnyfat at most, but then I took psychiatric medication and became very fat, by the time I switched meds it was too late
I never had a truly fit body and I'd like to try at least once, on the off chance it makes me feel better about myself

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>>45193019
thats clearly a caricature or someone clearly not gid
to really test the difference you have to have a case thats like right on the line and subtle

>>45193068
I was waiting for a potential accident to happen and didn't even notice the giant fake boobs. I'm truly moid brained.

>>45193068
> someone clearly not gid
Yeah thats the point they don't have gender identity disorder they have a paraphilic fetish

Also, it is not a caricature, it comes from Dr. William Power's slideshow about care of the transgender patient. You can find it in /mtfg/'s rentry iirc.

>>45193064
> I truly believe 90% of this stuff is just external factors fucking us up.
Perhaps external factors bring out the underlying incongruence to reality, but I do not think it causes it in most cases. For example, I have never watched porn in a sexual/masturbation context, yet still experience dysphoria. I probably would be still be fully subconsciously repping though if not for my activity on trans spaces on Twitter, but I do not blame it for causing GD.

>>45192849
>we are the same age and yet are so different lol
congrats on being better than me in every single way

>>45193101
>Dr. William Power's slideshow
that guy is practically a merchant no wonder he laid out an example that will make everyone congratulate themselves for not being that sick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDxNhwUs27w

>>45193101
Reading people's experiences definitely affirms my decision to identify as cis. I blame autism for letting me not know things about myself until 10 years or more after I should have realized them. Not that I've been suffering from GD for that long or anything, I'm talking about everything. It feels good to learn about oneself.

>>45192849
>I feel the same way.
let's lose weight and hope for the best

Where's my husband? Where's my husband who will feminize me and take care of me? Where is he!!!!!

i am filled with anger

>>45191378
If i was Outed to everyone who doesn't already know

>>45191378
If I had money to move out and live on my own.
That's it really. My family already knows I'm trans.

>>45191378
theres never one big thing but many little things that have to be dealt with one step at a time

>>45190927
This type of thing is so crazy to me as a frepper on T, how do you not feel embarrassed about yourself

>>45193306
Amab repper it's better that you're on here than reddit.

>>45193566
reddit is for afabs

>>45193019
>All women want now is to be with other women, all the women in the world are lesbians

fucking kek.

>>45193588
I'm an afab and we will take over the internet. In 2 years time 4chan will be overrun with afabs and the amabs will have nowhere else to go :) There's nothing amabs can do about it ;)

>>45193666
only amabs use 4chan

>>45193682
You got me

why do afabs exist? so they can torment me forever?

AFABs go to mars to smoke more cigars.

i think im going bald

Born to be a pretty princess
Forced to do soulless corporate excel shit

i am bald

it feels good knowing that when i die no one will care or notice

>>45193923
I am meant to be a pretty princess with a boy toy who pays for everything.

>>45193355
>>45191378
These things seem doable, what share of people who browse repgen would you guess eventually transition and what share of them do you think will die as repressors?

it really is hard to make an estimate because 4chan is a relatively recent phenomenon, and so is the board, which i have not browsed for a long time, maybe a few years, inconsistently, but i would guess that maybe 25% of repgen users will eventually transition? based on nothing, just my guess

I honestly just think i should rep forever because i never even had agp growing up or anything, reddit and my retardation just convinced me that i wanted to be a woman at age 18. Some trans women make their lives harder by transitioning and they are entirely justified in doing so whether they are gynephilic or not because they are either:

1. Fake trans but still have the potential to look good
2. Agp or hsts but its something theyve struggled with all their lives.

Imagine telling someone yeah i chose to ruin my life because at age 18, without having any gender dysphoria before that, i just decided i wanted to be a woman after browsing reddit trans communities. My life sucks and it will always suck and its not entirely my fault because i probably have an innate inclination towards mental illness and ugliness is also innate.

>>45194458
>These things seem doable

Uh yeah sure...I mean it's possible ...

>>45194511
I have had AGP more or less my entire life and it doesnt mean I should ruin my life by transitioning either I doubt it even makes me trans

hey if this is all just a choice can i please wake up tomorrow not like this anymore. this is me choosing rn btw.
if its not a choice id like to not feel so awful about myself. ty.

finally about to get a new computer after 10+ years

>>45194932
>I doubt it even makes me trans
It does mean that there is some mismatch in your brain related to the expectations and ideal state of your birth sex, which would include a sexual element, though you still would probably be considered a person with gender incongruence, just with a fetish, but why could you not have both?

I dont understand why agp people are so hated. Not only is it something that they do not choose but its also something that harms no one?

>>45195049
I said this before in this thread but my AGP is almost linked to wanting to be perceived as a woman in a normal setting it doesnt even need to be sexual, there is this weird split between how I am irl and how I interact with people and how I habe always been depressed but at least online or in my fantasies I just get off on being a woman not even getting fucked as a woman

I doubt im actually trans or have genuine gender dysphoria I used to make an alt and I had a few interactions with guys who made me feel like a woman which was amazing but im obviously a man so I kinda stopped engaging with it and im ok for a while until it comes back in waves and some waves are really intense the worse it ever got is when I bought pjs to sleep in but I was just disgusted in myself so I threw it away so I wish whatever I have can just end if I try to ignore it and get a gf or just train myself not to get off on this

My AGP is pretty bad. Like I feel most of the motivation for transitioning comes from a sexual source.

i can feel myself becoming more masculine per second

>>45195274
i'm all about activewear these days since i'm doing stretches but all summer i slept in a soft linen chemise
i don't do it when i'm not hairless though so i don't feel that disgusting lol

>>45195479
whats with the hairless thing is the pedophilia just that deeply ingrained in our culture
like women werent smooth shaved two centuries ago wtf gives

>>45195479
I havent bought anything since that was just at the peak of my AGP during a really bad period

>>45195274
Well the easy answer to this is that you aren't a woman and you will never be one so don't come on here and ask trannies for advice on it retard just go outside because they will groom you

>>45195796
lol im aware but thanks for the reminder

>>45195049
>its also something that harms no one
It harms me and everyone who has it because let's face it: It is freakish. It is insanely perverted. It is a biological and environmental mistake. Depending on what you do with it it can be insulting to women as well. People say that 93% of cis women have it, and I believed it at first, but it's cope. Women love to feel and be desired, they don't get wet at the thought of being in their own bodies. It's like with AAP. Never did being in my own moid body make me hard for the sake of it. I get hard because I want to have sex with other people either as a man or a woman. Becoming a woman would also get me aroused and give me an anime nosebleed due to how hot that idea is. Male and female sexuality are too fundamentally different. A loving god isn't and will never be fucking real due to how different the genders are. It's almost like they're opposed to each other.

AGP isn't that bad. Oh no you're jerking off to imagining yourself with a different body. Compared to scat, pedophilia, or whatever else it's not that bad. Who cares

>le im a freaaak
Society just hates men. A man jerking off alone in his room to some boobs is probably hitler to someone on twitter. Stop hating yourself. When people hate you, everything you do is automatically wrong. Jerk off? You're hitler who is objectifying women. Don't jerk off? Oh you're one of those nofap guys who think there's so smart and great? You can't win against twitterbrain. LET IT GO

>>45196009
ok but I want to jerk off to a girl I dont want to have the feeling that I want to be the girl

At least when people says im a girl online it helps but then I feel like things just get worse and I cant escape the feeling

>>45196009
having to bring up scat and worse as a comparison point goes to show how badly agp is perceived

>>45196085
Yeah and I dont want to ruin my life over such a weird fetish,having a fetish doesnt make me a girl

I RLY CANT BELIEVE MY LIFE IS JUST WAKING UP, FEELING BAD AND THEN PLAYING VIDEO GAMES TO ESCAPE AND THEN BEFORE I KNOW IT THE DAY IS OVER

NO FRIENDS NO JOB NOTHING

>>45196237
Exactly so stop browsing this site and be the man you were supposed to be brother

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>>45196325
I can believe it because my life is the same
Do I want to live like this? No. I just don't see a way out

how do I stop being so jealous of women

>>45196562
you dont

>>45192946
>Nobody with AGP ever considered being a femboy to cope with it

That’s how I cope with it. Just be a little femboi for a horny man a few times a year and im good to go. But I doubt have dysphoria so there’s that.

wait so i've repressed myself all this time and now that i realize that it was possible it's too late? what do i do now lol, kill myself?

>>45196607
go for the estrogen anon
it's not too late

>>45196607
no and no
easy for me to say that though, isn't it

>>45196566
ok but how do I keep living like this
it's like being mentally ill without any available meds

>>45196588
is femboi better seo for feminine males than cd

anyone feeling this weird moth to flame effect of wanting to go get retraumatised and humiliated at the most transphobic ignorant psychs it's almost like a FOMO

I don't know why, but I kept feeling BTFO by women I encountered today. For some reason I feel worse than I did the last few days. I also looked at a picture of myself from 10 years ago. Turns out I always had a neanderthal skeleton so it was long over before it even began. Thank god for repping.

>>45196607
if it was possible you'd have done it lbr

>>45196009
>scat
You can find partners to engage in it with, yes of all genders.
>pedophilia
You can get a woman to roleplay being young and there are women into that kind of thing.
In contrast the only thing you can do about AGP is hope you got lucky with a good face and body then take estrogen.
Now kill yourself.

>>45196607
yeah i think they encourage old people to rep on top an already cucked law in this country
and not having a job and stuff is already adding to the shame metric
i don't think people are magnanimous enough to say aww it was your dysphoria causing you distress they just think of it as a separate useless leech problem

>>45188798
>qott: How's your gyno?
always had a small chest dent so it always looked like i have boobs but the nips part is getting way too noticable looks like i plump nips when i wake up in the morning

>>45196654
>>45196657
>>45197793
im 31, ngmi
>>45197662
not really since i fucking hated trannies and made fun of them constantly but maybe it was out of jealousy and because it's low hanging fruit, people guess my age anywhere from 19 - 23 and customers clock me as a girl at work idfk

started meeting with people locally instead of being terminally online, getting my hair and makeup done with them, receiving so much positive attention etc. my life has been a haze up till this point and now i just want to kill myself because i found the only thing that makes me feel good and it's trooning out lmfao

>>45196443
Nta but I'm trying. I started to draw maybe I'll post a picture of my first drawing here when I get home.

>open video called "downsides to passing"
>it's an ugly english tranny with a faggy voice that absolutely does not pass
okay guys I get why some of you keep repping if that's what you see online
>t.luckshit passoid tranny

>>45198010
I would cave with any kind of affirmation irl ngl but thankfully I am an antisocial hikki

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nearly 40 and definitely getting closer to the point where i might start randomly crying tho not still the point of balling up i can still dismiss it as random emotional nonsense in a few days so i might still make it to the finish line

the lion wants someone to shoot him in the head

>>45198521
Please cry. Cry at home. Cry in public. Not crying, especially for as long as you haven't, is not healthy at all. Throw on a sad song. Think about...anything. Just cry. You need to.

>>45198214
I wish I didn't have dysphoria, I'd be so happy if I could just accept being a hon

>>45196588
i do this method and it works, i did castrate myself though

>>45198214
Even 11 years ago I would have been a neverpasser. Why was I given such a masculine Mediterranean skeletal frame yet cursed with gender dysphoria? Shit is fucked up lol.

Just like Steve Minecraft yearns for the mines, I yearn for the sisterhood. 2 women who never even met each other somehow have a deeper bond than 2 men who never met each other. My friends, I love them and God bless our friendship. But I think about being friends with women, as a woman not as a man, and I just want that.

>>45198893
I don't want to be seen as the potential rapemonster they always have to be careful around. Ffs I will never hurt you. I will fucking kill myself before that happens. I WANT TO BE ONE OF YOU.

I can't form a connection with anyone unless I'm pretending to be a woman or trans

>>45199023
You might just be autistic. I was always a ghost but never realized it until now. Autistic people take FOREVER to figure things out about themselves.

However I would love if you elaborated on what you said here. Because my inebriated brain is currently having trouble processing it...

>>45199099
Im not comfortable socialising unless I'm "out". I've had friends, partners, whatever while out but when I'm repressing or honest I just can't care

>>45199152
So you came out but went back to repressing?

>>45199023
Same

I don't feel LUST tonight. I feel "That would be nice" tonight and it has nothing to do with troon shit.

>>45199238
Now I'm crying. Not over what I don't have. I would crying tears of joy all the same.

>>45199023
yeah I feel fake as fuck

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Posting my moid repper hand/arm. The body hair all grew back after I shaved it. This is okay. This is fine. This is natural. I am the man I was always meant to be. I would love for this board to convince me otherwise.

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spent two months without using this website, avoiding all troon-adjacent subjects. still miserable. the contagion persists.
i'm a day away from just buying hrt and getting this over with. i know i won't pass ever and once my family inevitably finds out i'll probably kill myself, but i just can't take this any longer. do people actually enjoy living? i can't even imagine how that's like, at best all i can hope is some sort of sedation from this misery. but what can i do? at 20 years old and 6'1", i know the end result. i know it. iknowitiknowitiknowit. but i'm also jealous of happy-looking trannies. so much. i want to be like that, but i know i can't.
i don't know where i'm going with this. hello again? goodbye? fuck if i know. i jusy miss being able to put my honest thoughts out like this. there's literally nowhere else online i could do this in. i'll miss you guys! or not, in the 90% chance i chicken out of ordering the meds for the 100th time.

Being John Malkovich really is a tranny movie
i gotta see other Charlie Kaufman films, this guy's definitely a repper

>>45199843
what triggered your return?
i just broke my own 56 day no tttt streak last night, yes i track it

>>45200057
randomly decided to check the troon plebbit sphere for my entertainment (breaking the troon-adjacent rule i didn't even realize i was following). it's really fun seeing them post their stuff, kinda like going to a zoo :)
then i remembered about this gen and i couldn't help but post. i'm so fucking alone. this is the only place where people understand me. we're cursed with such a niche mental illness/complex, the only comfort is with fellow fucked up individuals, at least for me that's the case.

>>45199723
as someone attracted to masculinity I think your arms look hot, but because you're like me I know they must feel disgusting to have on you
I'm sorry anon
my moid hand/arm feels disgusting too, I have to pluck my hands so I'm not constantly grossed out by the feeling of touching them

>>45198893
close male friendship is actually superior, I wish I could enjoy it without the whole being a man thing ruining it for me

>>45200163
Well thank you. I felt particularly bad today because all the women I interacted with absolutely BTFO me in just about every metric. I never knew female hands/arms could be such a major source of dysphoria for me, of all the fucking body parts. Why do I fucking care about this? I'm not antagonizing them. It's not their fault their bodies are feminine and mine is masculine.
>>45200208
Close male friends can be so loyal. But I want the sisterhood all the same.

>>45200266
>Close male friends can be so loyal
meh, only until women are involved
before that it's great tho

I could have passed if I started 5 years ago

I could have been a clocky twinkhon if I started 5 years ago but it still would have been worth it I think, definitely better than this

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>>45200208
>>45200266
>>45200334
My manly heart yearns for TRVE BRVTHERHOOD where I'm also a cute anime girl

>>45200334
>>Close male friends can be so loyal
>until women are involved
one of the many great lies of honorable masculinity

>>45199851
>Being John Malkovich really is a tranny movie
>charlie Kaufman is a repper
an excerpt from the script:
>You see, men can feel unfulfilled, too. I'm glad you're realizing that. You shouldn't be so quick to assume that switching bodies would be the answer to all your problems.

>>45200674
another one:
>Lotte, I'm smitten with you, but only when you're in Malkovich. When I looked into his eyes last night, I could feel you peering out. Behind the stubble and the too-prominent brow and the male pattern baldness, I sensed your feminine longing peering out, and it just slew me

>>45200478
as far as I'm concerned the only good thing about masculinity is the competitiveness and/or the drive to achieve things
but even that is painful if you aren't one of the select few successful guys, and nowadays the average woman achieves more than the average man anyway

trooning was a mistake since literally nothing changed and now people know i'm a massive faggot

fuck you massive faggot get out

>>45198642
the lion is me

>>45193881
>>45193924
REAPED

for some reason [spoiler]chemo[/spoiler] gave gyno… years ago. i didn’t really notice it at the time and i doubt it still has any impact on me, but im skinny so i don’t have that much fat there anyway <.<

it also made my hair straighter which is nice..,,,

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I haven't gone to class in almost a month, going outside has become horrible for me because I have to tower over everyone I walk past. My only reprieve was walking around campus at night where I'll see nobody but now I've become dysphoric seeing my own fucking shadow of all things because of how frighteningly masculine and tall it is, so I can't even do that either. I'm so happy to have been cursed with ADHD, Gender Dysphoria with severe body dysmorphia, Depression, whatever else I have going on as well.

Seeing cis women makes me dysphoric, seeing cis men makes me dysphoric, seeing successful trans women makes me dysphoric. Eeverything does. Why was I cursed to be so masculine at 18? How come other people didn't get mega-fucked by testosterone? I was literally fat during my whole puberty so wouldn't my t be low and my e high?? why were my genetics just so good/bad I got fucked anyways?

Sorry for blogpost but I need to vent :(

My brain actively fucks with me and tries to harm me and make me doubt everything for no reason

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>>45188881
No.

I'm built like a Bogdanoff

>>45198832
i does feel good i do cry easily from deep feeling of betrayal which was always around even on default male hormones its like negative euphoria like being meant for something but not getting it

I can't troon because I'll never be as pretty as my exes so there's no fucking point

>>45199843
yo thats crazy im 21 and 6'1 what if we transition together....

Shorty's head built like an asteroid

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shaving my legs when it's just getting cold outside was the worst fucking idea i have ever had every time i go outside it's like im walking through an invisible cactus forest and its awful

I would just be a hon if I trooned anyways
I never had a chance

can someone tell me if it's too late

>>45199723
it doesn't say repgen
>>45201643
use aloe vera

i may be a pathetic excuse of a faggot with autogynophilia who cant have friends lest they discover my faggotry and fuck my life up even further on account of their disgust towards me

BUT I STILL WON THREE PURPLE HEARTS

>>45201626
6'1" isn't over at all, it's taller fs but not the worst

>>45201620
I used to cry very easily. I haven't been physically able to shed more than 2 tears in months.

>>45201659
yeah

>>45200356
Nah, dysphoria makes the middle ground worse trust me. It'd only work if you had a support network

>>45201384
>Seeing cis women makes me dysphoric, seeing cis men makes me dysphoric, seeing successful trans women makes me dysphoric.
felt

>>45201673
it's over, sweaty. we have to be better men

>>45200997
If I'm attracted to women and I troon out does that make me a faggot?

every now and again I remember the cute guy who hit on me when I was trooning almost a decade ago in public and I imagine a life with them

>>45201860
Yes because you troon out? BTW there's nothing wrong with being trans and a gynephile. Subconscious sex, sexual orientation, and gender expression are three different things, they just correlate in most cases.

>>45201864
>when I was trooning almost a decade ago in public
???
did you detroon?

>>45201907
I mean crossdressing

I'm a big man so the only guys that have ever hit on me are twinks that make me want to blow my head off almost as much as women when standing next to me

>>45201925
I wish twinks would hit on me as a woman

>>45201933
yeah I imagine it would be pretty nice if I wasn't me, but the contrast is ropefuel

>>45201933
>>45201925
feminine people hitting on me makes me queasy but if they treated me like a friend it would so warm and agp

>>45201771
No I would definitely prefer an androgynous middle ground over being a disgusting hairy hulking ogre even if it wasn't perfect. It could have made my body a lot less gross to exist in even if I still had to dress male in public and everything.
It's not like I have or need a "support network" as a man either. Being alone doesn't particularly bother me, though I do think it would have been fun to be able to try making friends and dating if I didn't have to constantly fake who I am to literally everyone.

chin so big I just dumped $ETH

>>45202007
This is why I'm a manmoder but it's only marginally better

>>45188798
>wake up
>somehow just automatically imagine myself as a tranny
>imagine a doctor guy a talk to from tinder fucking me
>him sucking on my breasts
>him stroking me as he’s rapidly pumping in and out
>he cums inside me as I cum
>jerk off to this
>run out of tissue because I cum so much

Fuck. Is it over?

>>45202082
It's so over

the best part of hrt is being practically asexual outside of an emotional attachment

>>45202102
Placebo but I'm glad it works for you

>>45202102
HRT messed with my sleep so bad.

>>45202101
Pill time?

>take your hrt!
you are here
>get ffs
>voice train
>relearn mannerisms
>change wardrobe
>learn make up
>more surgery

>>45202173
Too lazy to do any of that. Way too lazy and unmotivated to even start hrt.

im considering suicide

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what do you all think of cis women? frankly, i'm terrified of them. i genuinely cannot interact with women, i'm like a beaten dog that runs away when they get close. my entire existence feels engineered to make them uncomfortable, so i just avoid them as much as possible because i don't want to be seen as a creep or something.
it's really weird because trannies have this thing where they only ever had female friends, or related more to them before trooning out, when i literally had no cis female friends ever, if you don't count online. faketrans agp alert!!!

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>>45202190
i'm basically the same but my best friends in my last year of highschool were girls
also I wish i looked like rosemary walten so bad

>>45202185
nooo don't kill yourself your so sexy haha

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>>45202190
I hate 99% of them and idolize 1% of them

>>45202190
>what do you all think of cis women?
I'm very envious of them, but I don't particularly love or hate them
I guess I feel uncomfortable around them

>>45202222
me when i lie

>>45202190
On the surface I get along with them but I know the truth is mentally we're nothing alike

>>45202185
considering it is fine and perhaps healthy

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>>45202195
>also I wish i looked like rosemary walten so bad
same. i probably would've looked like her if i were a woman, considering her appearance reminds me of my mom a bit when she was younger, which is depressing to think about.

my feels when boomer and bald

>>45202279
she's so pretty giwtwm (besides the horrible torture and life)
also I relate, I look exactly like my mom and great grandmother when they were young but with a chad jaw and moid chin that makes me wanna kms

>>45202190
I always felt like my presence made them uncomfortable.

I should use AI to catfish a trans egf and vicariously live through her

>>45202309
you don't really need to use ai for that anon.....

>>45202317
as in you don't need to catfish anyone I mean

Don't forcibly feminize me I'd hate that.

>>45202320
I would do it as a woman not a man, obviously

>>45202331
time for your shots nona

>>45202190
same
but they're also very cringe esp the older gens which is why our perception of them is bad

>>45202343
nooo....oh no.....

has anyone here successfully managed to cope with agp by becoming a gay bottom

>>45202190
>when a woman has manly virtues, she is (as frighteningly mighty as) to be escaped from; when she has no manly virtues, she escapes from herself

>>45202183
This.
>>45202190
I can relate to all of this except I did have a female friend in high school. She wanted to be in a romantic relationship with me and while I did enjoy being her friend, I just wasn't and arguably am still not relationship material. I can talk to women fine I guess and multiple MILFs have hit on me but I just don't feel right. I can never feel right. Ideally I want an autistic gf but I'm told on the internet that it's a bad idea or something. My point is, I crave women's love but my soul isn't letting me do what I need to do to get it.

>>45202381
You know that's just babysteps

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I NEED to be housewife.

Don't get HIV if you're out getting plapped by gay men. And this is not a meme like 1/4 trannies in america have HIV.

>>45202474
This.

>>45202467
wdym

anyone feel like there was a small window of time in adolescence when people thought you were fem and could've had natural belonging with femininity

>>45202590
>saddest man alive
>saddest man even sadder and completely ruined

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>rep
>cave in
>happy euphoria for a bit but mostly anticipation of when things will improve
>they never improve
>give up and rep again

>>45202684
I've caved in around 5 times now and I always quit estrogen and go back to reppin'

>>45202586
no, for me it never began

>I will never successfully transition with another repper and be t4t gfs
it hurts bros

Trve Reppers drink bang's root beer.

>obviously masculine
>only in the ways that don't matter
I want a refund

do you think there are ftm hrtreppers

>>45203140
Yes

Any reppers with gfs/wives in here did you ever think about what it's like to be them?

>>45202712
nobody indirectly called you sissy and stuff? like no good etc?

>>45203684
nope, ive never been perceived as fem in any way by anyone ever in my life

>>45203140
yeah, women are more likely to accept enbies so it's an easy cope

Imagine doing locktober followed by nnn, followed by destroy dick December, then get on hrt as a new years resolution

>>45204077
im unironically doing nnn in hopes the agp goes away

>>45204232
My gender dysphoria was at it's strongest when I did my longest nofap streak

>>45204077
>tfw still no cage

>>45204464
I don't think my dysphoria can get much worse anyway, I might as well try to get rid of my porn addiction

>>45204232
I tried this 6 years ago it made it infinitely worse
>>45204464
This

>>45204681
>>45204681
>>45204681

>>45201746
>6'1" isn't over at all, it's taller fs but not the worst
this kind of talk is a violent act

>>45205827
I am 6'5" and would do anything to be even 6'1" and would probably be able to bring myself to transition. I see women over 6' pretty regularly, but not as tall as me.

anyone else getting a lot of propaganda to save the white race
maybe this is the key to defeating tranny thoughts

I miss my cisf ex gf and fingering her and eating her out and cumming in her