>if she lobbies the government to start concentration camps then thats her right, whats the problem?
stop tolerating faith
I'll never understad people's obsession with hp
>>45197200jk rowling is obviously a repper
>>45197231mr. galbraith will be buried under his birth name, bitter to the end
>>45197231Should reppers be forced to transition?
>>45197364i would appreciate it
>>45197371omw to your house with a bottle of estrogen
>>45197396sadly i live with my mom and she would not appreciate a stranger coming out of nowhere trying to get me on hormones
>>45197206This is the author of the atheist Bible we're talking about.
>>45197407Your mom has no choice
>>45197484even if you did come to save me you would realize that i am a disgusting ugly monstrous amab
>>45197519>amabHate speech, you'll take estrogen, you'll love yourself, and you'll live a happy lifeYou have no choice
>>45197407Stop being a child, Stop repping
>>45197788>>45197814im sorry for being a failure
>>45197831Stop apologising and start injecting
question: since so many secular people in UK oppose transgenderism, what is the Church of England's stands on transgenderism?
>>45197226arrested development, people refuse to grow up and let their childhood memories be memories
>>45197872>what is the Church of England's stands on transgenderism?What do you think?
>>45197872>transgenderismNo such thing
>>45197887>What do you think?Welcoming and inclusive, unlike the rest of the UK.
>>45197918Well im CofE and i can confirm that it is NOT trans inclusive. Some parishes promote inclusion and love, and some push extreme hatred, i mean extreme stuff, lgbt are demonic entities and we must guars the children etc.Depends on the parish. Ultimately God loves us, i dont care what the institution says. We are made in Gods image
>>45197946>>45197918As i said, its mixed. They're not as rabid as other members of the House of Lords, but they also couch support for us behind "yeah but muh religious right to oppose you"Support for Civil Rights: >The Bishop of Winchester stated that providing proper rights to transgender people in a civilized society must be done without infringing on the right to freedom of religion. Conscience Protections: >Bishops, including the Bishop of Worcester, emphasized that while religious organizations should welcome transgender people, the law must protect clergy who conscientiously object to solemnizing marriages involving transgender individuals. Pastoral Concerns: >In more recent years, such as the Lord Bishop of Manchester, has highlighted concerns regarding the mental health and safety of transgender people, noting they are often frightened to participate in public life.
>>45197918this is the sort of thing they do because they see themselves as Good People who want to be nice, but they fundamentally still believe that gays and trannies go to hell (as their birth sex) no matter how polite they are about ittranssexualism is simply incompatible with christian theology.
>>45198005>transsexualism is simply incompatible with christian theology.Trans people are mentioned precisely 0 times in the bible
>>45198037>Trans people are mentioned precisely 0 times in the biblethey were, but at eunches and first christians baptized.
>>45198037Cross dressing is condemned. Likewise sodomy.
>>45198055Well my family had a big debate on this, long story short, because I've taken on the role of the woman, so its no longer a homosexual relationship
>>45198075I dont wear male clothes, i have a vaginaDeuteronomy 22:5 is one random verse btw
>>45198091There are more verses explicitly condemning sodomy and cross dressing than there are validating trans gender identities
>>45198037regardless, the idea that someone can be born in the wrong body and should change their body to the opposite sex is incompatible with christian theology. There is nothing in the bible that says god would create people like that, and nothing that suggests god would want people to transition. I didn't say christian law, I said christian theology. The idea of space travel also goes against christian theology, even if there's no specific laws in the bible against it.
>>45198116The bible doesnt state that god creates genetic mutations either, so that’s a dumb argument. If trans people exist, god created them, regardless if the bible says it or not.
>>45198115>>45198116you are just making shit up now.
>>45198085>because I've taken on the role of the woman, so its no longer a homosexual relationshipthat was my suggestion when I first heard of trans people.>if you have an issue with them being men, just make them women and it's ok.
>>45198132You’re right there are no verses condemning gays, or anyone for that matter. The ten commandments are just the statement ’trans women are women’ repeated eleven times, it was just mistranslated by baptists.
>>45197226>the zogwarts christmas scene and it's consequences
>>45198130>If trans people exist, god created them, regardless if the bible says it or not.which is why christian theology is incompatible with being trans. There is no theological explanation for why god would create trans people, and it goes against the other ways god created humans and the ways god wanted humans to live. The fact that trans people exist is only evidence that christian theology is nonsense, because the christian god wouldn't create trans people. But yeah, of course any christian would say that god must have created trans people because if you believe in god then god has to have created everything, even if it doesn't make sense. Notice that none of these seemingly accepting christian organizations will say "god put a female soul in a male body", or "god makes trans people their correct sex in heaven", or whatever else. It's the exact same as how they talk about gays, they never actually say "god is cool with gay people, it's not a sin", they just talk about kindness and acceptance and tolerance and how nice they want to be to everyone. And then behind closed doors even the nice polite liberal good ones complain about all the faggots. This is in contrast to other religions like buddhism. Even if there's no trans people in the teachings, the theology and metaphysics of buddhism are a model in which being trans can make sense. In thai buddhism it's a popular belief that men who are abusive to women can be reborn as trans women in the next life as a consequence of negative karma. Is this nice or polite? No, but at least it's a theological explanation for why trans people exist. Christians have no actual explanation, just " god made you like this for uhh mysterious reasons... don't mutilate your body lol", and pretend like kindness makes up for that.
>>45198198Trans people are like dinosaur bones, they were created by satan to fool atheists
>>45198075and the crossdressing verse is next to the no shrimp verse. is seafood permissible on hell island?
>>45198116Terfs when they are guided by hatred and stupidity lol
>>45198116>the Bible didn’t mention it and so it doesn’t existBrb I have great news for some type 1 diabetics
>>45198221Jesus is quoted in the NT saying that nothing in the old testament matters anymore except for the parts about hating gays and pagans. Or something like that.
>>45198241being diabetic does not really have the same issues because various diseases are depicted in the bible
>>45198259You just want to hate trans people, that's it
>>45198273you're fucking retarded, I'm trans and I hate christianity
>>45198198I know this id bait, but I’ll bite. Why is it inconceivable for a Christian god to have created transgender people? Since it isn’t condemned in the bible and I’ve yet to hear an argument that isn’t “erm but it makes me uncomfy to think about dick surgery”
>>45198282>you're fucking retardedYou're a terf, i know these arguments
>>45198259so GD doesn’t bc reasons, right?
>>45198198inb4>muh one of gods challenges meme
>>45198005And maybe your assumptions are a function of your own incessant prejudice instead of anything based in reality?
>>45198284nta but again they're talking about theology and doctrine vs. individual interpretationat the end of the day religion is just a means to rationalize the irreconcilable anyways, so you do you king/queen
JK Rowling isnt even remotely religious yet people still bring up religion in a thread dedicated to her. Goyim will never be free.
>>45198284the bible is misogynistic and demands strict sex-based roles of men and women. The bible describes men as created in god's image, and that the body is a temple of the holy spirit. This doesn't directly apply to trans people, but it's a good baseline to judge the vibes.The old testament explicitly bans self-castration, and bans anyone who has been castrated from the congregation of the lord. Jesus talks about eunuchs a bit in the new testament, but it seems unclear as to if he means actual eunuchs or if it's a metaphor for infertility or celibacy. Regardless, the suggestion is definitely that being a eunuch is ok, so long as one lives a life of celibacy and do not marry, so essentially in the same position as the most progressive christian positions on homosexuality, that it's tolerated if they don't have sex. Specifically in the 3rd eunuch case in matthew 19 he describes the celibate eunuchs as having a place in heaven. It's a very common theme in old and new testament that followers of god should "be fruitful and multiply", so anything like homosexuality or being a eunuch takes away from this goal, and is broadly condemned outside of explicit celibacy for religious reasons. Furthermore, there's absolutely no discussion of permissiveness for "eunuchs" who dress as women and are go by women's names to marry or be treated as women, even though people like that did exist at the time and had some public awareness across the roman empire. Instead, eunuchs are all implied to be men, whether dysfunctional or religiously celibate men, and so I do think that the laws against crossdressing and homosexuality are meant to apply to eunuchs as described in the bible. Again not explicitly, but definitely implicit. >>45198295gender dysphoria isn't a conventional disease in the way that diabetes is. Given the way jesus cured diseases, if you were to treat gender dysphorics as being sick then jesus would "cure" them in the same way.
>>45197986>the law must protect clergy who conscientiously object to solemnizing marriages involving transgender individuals. It's complicated. For at least some subset of Christians, marriage is a very specific ritual rooted in biblical symbolism, not just something you can do for any reason.So they welcome secular marriages and sacred ones performed by other churches, while keeping for themselves the right to discriminate in this case.I'm not one of those people, and am irked by fundamentalism in general, but I get it.
>>45198514>Given the way jesus cured diseases, if you were to treat gender dysphorics as being sick then jesus would "cure" them in the same way.and so jesus said:>love thyself hon, you're already a woman, it's what's inside that countsand he, i mean she was cured
>>45198514>conventional diseaseIncredible
>>45198298Once had a “therapist” tell me straight up that dysphoria was sent by god to keep me humble
>>45198820notice how god's challenges are never fun ones
>>45198875Smh where’s the ice bucket challenge from god, why’s it always lame shit like “endless torment”
>>45198282>im trans and hate christianity >posts in a way that is fundamentally indistinguishable from religious right rhetoric Hmm
>thread about jkr >looks inside>theological debateHow tf did we get here
>>45198908>hello fellow TIM here, dont you think we should keep out of biological womens spaces?!>IM A FUCKING TRANNY JUST LIKE YOU STAY OUT OF OUR SPACES the glowies are losing their minds, if they ever had them in the first place. The 77th arent sending their best, (or are they?)
>>45198923>How tf did we get hereGlowies derail the thread. I'll make it again after this one dies. The 77th do this all the time https://www.tweaktown.com/news/43320/british-army-employed-whole-batallion-facebook-warriors/index.html
>>45198953More glowie stuffhttps://securityaffairs.com/33552/social-networks/british-army-77th-battalion-facebook.html
>>45198705yes, diabetes is the sort of thing that would have been considered a disease in the bible. Gender dysphoria would not be. At most, it would be treated as demonic possession, perhaps jesus would chase the demons out of them>>45198908you must be at a sub-high school reading level if you can't tell the difference between me describing religious right wing rhetoric and me advocating for religious right wing rhetoric
>>45199036I don’t recall saying you were advocating for it. I said you’re posting it.
>>45199060>>45198273>You just want to hate trans people, that's it>>45198289>>You're a terf, i know these arguments>>45198931>the glowies are losing their mindsclearly someone here can't tell the difference between depiction and endorsement
>>45198887maybe its just a frame of mind, start yelling hallelujah when you hit a blinker
>>45197918>>45197986stop posting ai slop nigger
>>45198005they correctly recognize that trannies are demonic entities
>>45199036Youre a stupid evil cunt. Jesus would smite your kind
