>>45228204
Idk I can't tell if transitioning enhanced my bisexuality or I was just already somewhat meta-attracted before I started transitioning. Penises have always turned me on but generally I don't feel the same attraction towards most (masculine) men that I feel towards 90% of women. Like I find most women just more aesthetically pleasing than most men. At the same time though I feel like my feelings towards men are pretty in line with straight women's, like if I'm watching a video on social media and a guy in it is really hot there's often cis straight girls in the comments thirsting over him too. I also had kind of a fear of masculine guys after growing up as the weird sensitive nerdy kid and obviously being bullied by them, which has kind of diminished at the same rate as me actually getting to know guys that aren't complete redneck chuds and becoming more attracted to them. Everyone in my life as a kid was also very homophobic and conservative.

>>45228204
Picrel is me and my gnchet boyfriend (I’m the big one)

Indulging an AGPs meta attraction probably feels good asf. Like imagine degrading some clocky twink, getting real rough with them, gyatt dam

>>45228204
ive been agp since childhood and im definitely aesthetically attracted to women but i dont see them as a romantic option at all because they'll inevitably force me into a male role in the relationship, only masculine men can actually make me feel fulfilled sexually or romantically

>>45228204
Hmmm probably but even before I transitioned I really liked male attention, it gave me butterflies, even though I never got with any men until after. I considered that maybe I was always just gay, but hated my body too much

>>45228417
To add on, I've slept with 8 guys and it was ebic most of the time.

Is it agp to desperately need to be in picrel? I want to feel the warmth of a man who has his arm around me while I cling to him in bed so badly ugh >_<

>>45228204
Well I have had AGP since childhood too and I feel fine as a guy most of the time but I did indulge it purely online with a chaser and he treated me like his gf for a little bit and it felt awesome but obviously im a guy and not a girl so I deleted the alt and tried to move on because I am a straight cis guy and not a girl

>>45228204
idk, like i'm not really super attracted to most ppl, i can acknowledge some women are hot but i can't really imagine having sex with one. and i'm also not attracted to most guys but the ones i am attracted to i am really attracted to so idk

>>45228640
how do relationships with women feel for you?

>>45228664
I want one obviously but I also havent really been in one and I feel a bit awkward uncomfortable about it, my AGP is also not really related to having sex as a woman btw just to add that its mostly related to being perceived/treated as a girl

you should smell a used athlete's cup that will tell you

>>45228737
having sex as a woman is part of being treated like a woman
you do know women spend most of their time fending off sexual advances which in older times wouldn't be a question

I actually got the chasers attention when I told him he is really unlucky I wasnt born a girl lol

>>45228835
Well yeah ofc but its not the main part of the fantasy if that makes sense? ig the main part of the fantasy which is retarded is that im some guys gf or wife at least as part of the meta attraction

>>45228846
yeah but some people like to hit maximum utilization with their equipment even if it's just for personal use

>>45228868
Yeah thats fair and they should I dont fault them this is just my AGP experience I want ways to alleviate it or get rid of it and thats why I cut it off with the other guy

I really need to get over this fetish eventually though and just be normal

>>45228737
in a relationship a cis woman will usually do the opposite of perceiving you or treating you like a girl and if she does perceive you as girly it's a bad thing for her. do what you want obviously, it could be different for you, but ime you'll have to hide big parts of who you are for her and it sucks the joy out of the relationship. I feel like you deserve more than that.

>>45229072
and what exactly do you think I deserve? and AGP doesnt define who I am its just a fetish that I can manage I have since I was 7 it has been part of my daily life

And maybe in that relationship I can finally forget about whatever this thing is I have

Also sorry I need to add this in my day to day life im perfectly fine with being a guy I only have waves of AGP and it varies,like I try to quit indulging it but I always come back here it even got to a point where I wanted to tell a guy on discord that im trans with my main just so he can refer to me as a girl ik im a retard lol

>>45229072
i wanna be a girls pet or her maid basically i need her protection

>>45229147
In my meta attracrion I usually want to be with a guy who can treat me as their wife or gf or whatever idk I never really see myself in that position with a woman but again I am a straight cis man it is just all or nothing for me

>>45228813
That would make me feral, what does that mean

>>45228204
>How do you know you're not really attracted to men?
I am, I'd just rather shoot them all dead than be in a relationship with one of those pigs

>>45229166
well you are not a girl tho? just man the fuck up and don't let a tranny psy op you bro

>>45229270
Yeah I know lol

>>45228204
I got fucked by men to indulge my AGP. I assume im "meta attracted" cuz I dont like like men emotionally or romantically and dont care too much about their looks tho I do like some kinds of men bodies more than others. I've sucked a lot of nice cocks on ugly dudes lol.

Currently in my AGP cycle where I REALLY want to be some guys gf rn ngl

>>45229284
i don't think you do actually faggot

>>45229292

hmm interesting. was it better than with women?

i lowkey find the male body (including penises) ugly and unattractive. but having sex as a woman or having a guy dominate me would be hot.

at least in theory? whenever i tried i felt nothing while with women i get butterflies.

idk. it doesn't make any sense. wonder if i have something that makes me not be able to enjoy interacting with men that way or if im just not meta attracted enough lmao.

a pity im like that bc with cisf chaser it wasn't nice. i dont rly wanna be in a dominant role bleh

>>45229551
I totally agree with finding the idea of having sex with men to be gross but the attraction really is just how they would treat me (which I even experienced on a discord alt fwiw) but like I cant picture myself with any man in a male form it grosses me out

nta btw

>>45229678

exactly!

idk. main problem is im a manmoder.

if i were pretty i could feel attracted to myself. if i were attracted to myself i wouldnt need to feel attracted to my partner. if i didnt need to be attracted to my partner, men WOULD be an option which would open up a lot of possibilities.

since im a manmoder who hates her body, the only way id be able to be in any kind of sexual relationship would be with a woman as i am attracted to their bodies.

anyway, all theoretical. khhv.

>>45229791
Well tbf I shouldnt even feel like this because like I said before I am a cis man and this is just a fetish of mine I dont think I have genuine gender dysphoria

>>45228204
Rance GODS... our response?

>>45228204
Need

i need a husband so bad

>>45231060
This is just sad to read bro

>>45229331
Imagine a chill rainy night spent inside watching a movie or TV shows cuddling up next to your boyfriend on the couch...

>>45229551
>was it better than with women?
no. different (obv), hot, fun and sexy but not better than being with a woman. Im enamored with women in every way.

>>45229551
>lowkey find the male body (including penises) ugly and unattractive

meant to reply to this too. I DO find (some) penises attractive. It started because to always thought mine was nice looking and then realized other peni could be nice looking too...so, my lust for cock seems a little more than meta but I digress...

>>45231132
Yeah I mean I can imagine it but im a straight cis man soooo

>>45231233
true you are a man bro don't let these trannies try to groom you,they are evil and YWNBAW

>>45231233
You will be the husband you so desperately desire if you keep doing this

>>45231293
Doing what?

>>45231298
Repping

>>45231270
yeah bro im aware lol

>>45231304
Idk if you read some of what I alr said but it is mostly just AGP I dont even think im a repper >>45229166
>>45228846
>>45228640

Some of the stuff I posted btw to give you some background

But its probably better if I am the husband its more normal and I wouldnt be ruining my life over a fetish

>>45231342
You're already ruining your life letting yourself become something you hate

>>45231352
So what even is the solution here? I have been coping with it for as long as I can remember and again its just a fetish what could even be the outcome with this

>>45231357
transition or rot

>>45231357
Deep down what do YOU want?

>>45231360
Well I am a man obviously and if I can just get a gf im sure things will be better why would I transition if I am perfectly fine as a man in my day to day life?

>>45231362
Deep down? ig it depends when you ask me a minute after I get done getting off I want to be a guy and I am disgusted to what I get off to (I have never gotten off to anything else btw it predates puberty too when I dreamed I body swapped into a girl when I was 9) but if you talk to me before probably a normal wife or a gf which mind you I would make a great gf

Idk my AGP is just me wanting to be perceived/treated like a girl ig

But that doesnt make me one and I need to just actually move on with my life and get a wife or get some way to cope with my agp long term

>>45231360
can you stop grooming this stupid freak please he needs to get the fuck off this board

>>45231431
I am not even being groomed???

>>45231485
you literally are though this guy wants you to ruin your life don't let him nevertroon

>>45231397
Would you rather be a cis man or a cis woman? Answer honestly. I wish I can find a woman who loves me so bad. But I don't have any faith in myself.

>>45228204
Yes, I'm a transbian and I love having sex with men. I'm also attracted to hons and unpassing trans women, they're so hot.

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>>45228204
i think that shrinks have only ever made preconceived notions then adjusted everything to fit that. male sexuality is objectively object-oriented. other sexualities being different isnt some freak defect thats not secretly a male hiding in someones brain cavity jorking his beanits over this convoluted fetish

even in fucking ancient times it was the most basic parable that moon/feminine = sensual and not going rapebeast mode over seeing a shirtless guy is normal. however a droplet of sanity in viewing things normally is fucking impossible, as everything is caught in a tidestorm between seething r9kcel misogynists and shrinks. alas

>>45231851
nta but i am married to a cis f but i still sometimes think of myself as a woman

>>45231976
That's what I'm worried about. I don't want to have these feelings always lingering in the background if I'm in a relationship. That sounds horrible if I'm being completely honest. Take care of yourself out there, anon.

>>45232047
doesnt really affect my relationship with her though, it just sometimes comes and goes. i am happy with my relationship with her and she knows most of these things anyway. i just keep them to myself.

>>45232053
Well that's good to know. I would go fucking crazy.

>>45232057
ye its definitely not easy but i manage

>>45228204
God why can't I be that girl in your picrel? I'm getting a boner thinking about it but I don't even want a boner. I'd rather drink alcohol or cry instead.

>>45232076
She's his slave tho
Why would you want to be a slave?

>>45231851
I genuinely don't know it really is a 60/40 most days but ig more often than not I want to be a woman but mainly because of the fetish I have right also wdym you wish you had a woman who loved you like that?

So that is hardly enough for me to ruin my life with HRT

>>45228204
Need this so bad

>>45228204
>Is agp meta attraction real?
Probably
>Did anyone here fuck men to indulge their meta attraction?
Yes
>Did it feel good?
No
>How do you know you're not really attracted to men?
You know when you have a 7in cock throbbing inside your mouth or deep inside your ass and the only thing you can think of is how much you're looking forward to the whole thing being over

>>45233372
What was it like after? did you feel like a woman

>>45233381
I was really putting in the effort for the guy to finish and be over with the whole thing so I let him cum in my mouth.
My first though after he came was to reach for my purse and grab a cigarrete to get rid of the taste. I went home inmediately and felt disgusting.
Also, I didn't feel like a woman because the guy was really into me having a dick

>>45233401
That does seem awful then ngl ig its a good thing I wont really ever do any of that then

>>45228204
I crossdressed (semi pass) and finally got fucked by a guy. I came huge when he was still fucking me and realized that this fantasy I had always gooned to was not just a fantasy, prior to this I had only been with women.

>>45233372
> You know when you have a 7in cock throbbing inside your mouth or deep inside your ass and the only thing you can think of is how much you're looking forward to the whole thing being over
Umm I thought I had meta attraction but if what you say is true then what does it mean if I cum while he’s still inside and I don’t regret it at all and find it pleasurable?

>>45228204
No.

Are you still cis op?

>>45228204
I'm cis m bi, not trans but I've gotten railed by 50+ y/o FUBs just because of the hot contrast between me being a pretty boy and them basically being real life ogres.

>>45233401
>>45233372
don't you feel pleasure back there when you p waves start you get even more into men and crave the taste of cum and since you theres no post nut clarity only an afterglow the aftertaste even if bitter and manly should make you feel mef

>>45233372
>You know when you have a 7in cock throbbing inside your mouth or deep inside your ass and the only thing you can think of is how much you're looking forward to the whole thing being over
try smaller guys?

All big-dicked AGP babes should mate press me and make fun of my smaller heterosexual-ish cis man cock and look me in the eyes while doing so

>>45234927
me too. as a chadlet, i've serviced many big ugly dudes...usually while wearing panties or more but not always. I still feel like a little bitch whether i have them on or not.

>bi
>chad let
i had to laugh

>>45236331
I've got a big dick, a pretty face and girls love me...and I love them. So it all works. Nothing to laugh about that.

kill yourself transbian agpedo rapehon

AGP isn't real